Frage von utan:
Hello!
I'm new here and have already thinned out very intressiert your contributions.
For me, the question arises for a larger camera.
After having some young people with an open air with a borrowed Canon XL1 documented had the pleasure to buy himself a camera in this league, until now I only have a small SonyTRV14 but there are creative possibilities but severely limited ;-)
With the XL1, I actually got along pretty well, but the auto focus was very difficult, especially in concert recordings at night he was pumping and the very exercise focused initially on manual, I have not yet.
I could be an XL1 with the 16xOptik / 3xOptik & EF adapter buy rather favorable (1250. - ¬), is only now when I hold the question of whether it is even more worthwhile to invest in such a device to ...
Has anyone experience with the 3x Optics - Autofocus is better?
Synonymous've already read statements that claim the XL1 was total garbage in Comparison to XL1s and would not be worth it. Our class only takes, I think just stop the problem with the AF, synonymous the feeling of pseudo-shoulder camera, I found it good.
Unfortunately I can not compare the quality with other cameras in the same league. I would be interested in the Canon XM2 or synonymous SonyVX2000/2100 respectively HDR-FX1. The XM2 HDR-FX1, and I already had in hand, the FX1 gefiehl me from handling her very just not schulterbar without tripod.
Now that HDV is available at the door, I ask myself whether I still hold to focus on DV and then to a still very old model. Beamer and powerful PC in any case are already in my room ..
Would be very grateful for some input of you experienced members.
Oh yes, perhaps even to mention was that my budget is not unlimited, and I want to get as favorable as possible to a good picture ..
Antwort von Markus:
Hello,
since you've got all sorts of really top-camcorder lumped together! ;-)
So the XL1, I would not buy more because there are now two successors: the XL1s and the XL2. If possible, do not you sooo much want to spend money, HDV is not yet announced. In addition to the camera you need synonymous fact a very powerful PC for HDV DV editing.
A very good and powerful, the camera is SonyVX2100: She is very bright, even delivers noise-free images with low lighting and still offers reliable automatics () including fast autofocus. But this is only my opinion, let's see what you would recommend to others (and why).
Antwort von chris:
Hello
A recommendation to give is of course not easy.
It all depends on what you want to do.
The XL2, VX2100 is better than the XL1, but if you come with accessories cheap s.The XL1 speak my opinion, nothing against buying them. The picture quality still is one of the best amateur in the field what it is, what is synonymous for the VX1000. Clearly, the successor models are better particularly in low light, but if you are fast film only during the day is not so important. If you want to film concerts only where it is indeed quite dark, I would tend to be the successor models.
I like the XL1 / 2, the shoulder rest and the lenses and it would therefore prefer the VX1000/2100.
The sharpness is such a problem. It must be said that there are cameras sies (ambitious), amateurs and not for "real" pros.
That is, for example, the viewfinder is a weakness: electronical, colored, and with 180,000 pixels completely undersized. The sharpness so you can not determine exactly! But we can live with that if you zooming, sharp (Auto Focus is on short zurückzoomt or push AF), and again. That is, however, synonymous, that focus shifts are almost (or just heavy) is possible, but as synonymous by the small CCD 's the depth of field is so large.
HDV, I would still let their fingers. There are still plenty of problems. In my opinion, there should still wait and see.
Chris
Antwort von Kiara Borini:
Hello,
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If possible, do not you sooo much want to spend money, HDV is not yet announced. In addition to the camera you need synonymous fact a very powerful PC for HDV DV editing.
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I do not see necessarily so. Sure, if he wants to cut HDV, then it should already be advanced Harware! But the camera still gives synonymous DV-out. Then the cut is different so not of the other DV cameras. Only we happen to have the additional option to cut his material later, the CD again with much better quality. If one removes the project files (plus the rest except AVIs), then perhaps it is even possible to repeat this DV editing later auto in HDV quality.
Antwort von chris:
@ Kiara
Theoretically that's true, but for example, the FX1 and the Z1 of Sonyein miserable because the torque converter provides signal DV camcorder in the most proper weaknesses.
If you cut it straight HDV synonymous needed another TV, projector, etc. of these Resolutionbringt. Also with the camera alone can not do it.
Therefore I see no point in now spend much money for something that is only usable with restrictions.
But as I said, something is always a matter of opinion, and make them depending on what you want.
Chris
Antwort von utan:
@ all: thanks for your views relating to.
just a used XL1 (unfortunately not XL1s) I get with 2 lenses and Batteries for 1250 was ¬ even as ne Guen is new XM2 - and I think that the Neure XM2 but shoots from a purely technological advances certainly as guete images - or am I mistaken me? - I realize that the XM2 in Comparison with the rest only 1 / 4 "instead of 1 / 3" has chips.
Because HDV: a Panasonic PT-AE300 is already hanging from the ceiling, not even bringing the full HD resolution, HD clips can already see, but worlds better than that of SD. My hardware is an AMD section 3200 with 1GB RAM and 840GB HD - as the editing software I use Premiere Pro 1.5.
I'm just about the JVC GR-PD1 which is now synonymous stumbled buy is very cheap (although looks strongly to plastic, but if she would take good pictures ...) - in the forum you can find practically anything to her ...
Antwort von krautundrueben:
Hello, faced with the same problem. but wanted to run into the vx9000 or DSR200 send. what is the comparative in there?
If you decide against the xl1, I would have interest .. :-)
regards.
Antwort von AMH:
Hello everyone!
I film often with a XL1 or XL1S. Sure I like because the XL1s better. Especially the stabilizer has a few improvements.
The price of 1250 Euros is not synonymous bad. But I would look first at E-Bay, because if you do not get a better deal.
The DV-recording of the FX1 is not really so bad, as is always claimed. I think they can certainly compete with the other prosumers.
Furthermore, it synonymous with movies, I) is almost always stand shoulder to shoulder out of (. So I have a very peaceful picture. Since the XL1s is a lot worse.
In your place I would think about it again and well just yet First look on ebay over ;-)
Gruss
Alex
Antwort von utan:
VX2000/2100 think the flies from the choice, I get somewhere sonal convictions creates a favorable needed because the original price in Switzerland exceed that of the HDR-FX1. Unfortunately, one here, the vehicles are of such semi-pro camcorder nachgeworfen not just and it is currently the XL1 now the only thing that I like. So really, the only remains left with XL1 the XM2 ond the SonyHDR-FX1 ...
We'll see what it is.
Antwort von AMH:
Then yes! Good luck with deciding!
I then took an eternity ... difficult decision ... ;-)
Antwort von utan:
Well, the decision has been made for the XL1, since I came with the price the seller again very contrary.
Thank s.alle have helped me here with their posts.
