Frage von Backgroundworld:
Hello,
because my budget, unfortunately, has decreased somewhat, I have to resort to the following solution to Tonangeln:
Audio Technica ATR55
+ cleverer windscreen
+ Tonangel
Now, however, the question arises whether a cheap Markentonangel (á la Rode Boom Pole to buy) or for 25 ¬ on ebay (see here: http://cgi.ebay.de/Teleskop-Tonangel-Mikrofonangel-3- Meter-in-silber_W0QQitemZ170441266764QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFilmnachbearbeitung? hash = item27af17564c)?
Are there major differences between them, except that the discussion at the Rode the cable inside? Hm.
Thanks in advance
World Background
Antwort von Pianist:
Viewed generally relating to "spiral cable in the Angel": I like this solution very much, however, synonymous only because my fishing will never be moved during the recording. At stage productions but this is often the case, why Filmtonmeister do not like internal coiled cable that much. So does depends on what you want to do.
Matthias
Antwort von Johannes:
I play at first synonymous with the idea of buying me this angel on Ebay too. However, I had some concerns about the weight, because that is yet to decide on a permanent basis. Ultimately, I bought me at Thomann one of K & M and can not complain.
http://www.thomann.de/de/km_23750_mikrofonangel.htm
Since I do not use in the scenic and rather less excitement had handed me the length to the full.
Antwort von Backgroundworld:
Danke schon mal for the answer!
The Tonangel must often be moved, right here it is about an amateur movie.
EDIT: @ John: Thanks :-) synonymous. The Tonangel will weigh 800g on eBay, is that a lot?
K & M, I had looked at me the longer version at Thomann. Or do you carry small enough synonymous? I do not know how strong and well is the ATR55.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Pirk Rods from the fishing tackle shop ;-)
The first 2 elements (head (remove)
Inside the cable set top mount s.The Micro Holder ... done.
MfG
B. DeKid
PS: search times in the forum have been dozens of times with the Stipprute explained - search word "Stipprute" ;-)
Antwort von Backgroundworld:
@ B. DeKid:
At DIY, I had already thought synonymous - but then again rejected, as all looked very unstable.
But the Stipprutentonangel it costs ¬ 50-70. Since you can still buy another Finished. That will cost even synonymous not much more.
Antwort von Johannes:
Well, almost 800g is 800g n kilo. If s.unsere Angel of the wind off the basket and is synonymous, it is relatively difficult, especially if they must keep for a long time. If you look, I'd buy out of principle, therefore, the lighter. If you working for Scenic then you should have a cable to use Angelwickeln and no internal, because it often rattles.
I wrote above took the shortest version, but would you rather as synonymous longer recommend.
Antwort von Backgroundworld:
Ok, good. Thanks, but the long version of the K & M Fishing indeed synonymous weighs 890 grams - hmm .. and the Rode boom pole weighs even 950G :-( ..
And the aluminum fishing gibts ja ;-) only in higher price ranges.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Spippruten get for 20 euro to 5 m
http://www.angelsport.de/__HYBRIS__/category/Angelkatalog/ruten-7/stippruten/detail.jsf
Antwort von Pianist:
The Tonangel must often be moved, right here it is about an amateur movie. I would prefer the cable wrap around the hook, since internal coiled cable can cause noise.
Matthias
Antwort von Frank B.:
I would get me a rod from the DIY painter and modify as needed. There are nice sturdy aluminum for little money.
Distaste for the pros, but what solls. For amateurs with limited finances, the money is better invested in a good camera and good audio equipment.
Frank
Antwort von rush:
Moin,
So I would ebay-linked Angel to feel too unwieldy :-) A pack size of 1.75 m is anyway quite bulky.
Although I know the Rode-Angel, but not of their nature, they have come closer to my choice.
Otherwise, as mentioned times visit the fishing store your confidence and look what they have so beautiful ... you then have to stop if necessary, a little tinkering, but price is certainly a good way :-)
Antwort von Backgroundworld:
Thanks for the many answers!
@ B. DeKid: Ok, is not that a bit unsure if the micro-holder (and hence the synonymous Microphone) simply adheres?
Or would you do it with Panzertape etc.? We not only know obs holds true year :-).
@ Pianist: Okay, thanks. So is an internal cable management is no advantage in my case.
@ Frank B: And how would I attach the microphone holder? With Panzertape?
@ rush: Yes, but the DIY will probably cheapest (and best?) Be .. If security is ;-).
what do you say all the Microphone? Good for fishing?
Antwort von B.DeKid:
The first time Rod had not done I'm synonymous with PanzerTape ... the "lives" still ... was then ne spontaneous idea.
Ne eh kapput Stipprute I have there.
Nen for friends then I have built one that looked like no more time for DIY ... I have to CSF and Glasfieder used mats and the whole still painted.
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My cable way, I'm synonymous externally via Velcro tape firmly made ... in the other rod I have the cable but had moved inside - Lay concerning whether the tip is not inside but once interesting!
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I'm mantelt handles with foam for heating pipes, at which my "ring" because "clicks".
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So although it might be nice Pro moderate rods in the EB area but are generally synonymous, and I actually made of carbon fiber too expensive - therefore the tip with the Stipprute.
Any way he wants and what he can pay, I think times.
The main thing stop kan times the distance from Micro judge a scene, so I stop went.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Frank B.:
@ Frank B: And how would I attach the microphone holder? With Panzertape? So I would hold the microphone in accordance with a matching threaded screw s.entspr. Glue in the end. Is there a Duddeldei in photo accessories trade. It can then adapt all synonymous, synonymous as ne shockmount. As an adhesive, for example, recommends hot glue. In the construction market, there is so synonymous ne Pattex component repair putty, which is in each can bring any x-form. Thus, I have had good experiences synonymous. Not bad that stuff. The imagination knows no boundaries, especially in the accessories section;).
Frank
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Paste timber - hole at the top comes in - threaded nut paste - timber with hot glue to the angel - with CSF-pass on the outside paint - micro bracket with screw LockTide ;-)
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Backgroundworld:
Okay, thank you so much schonmal!
Can anyone still make a list of what I would need just now for a homemade Tonangel?
;-) I'm slow, somewhat confused.
Antwort von Frank B.:
Can anyone still make a list of what I would need just now for a homemade Tonangel? Ok, I will try it! B. DeKid advises ner fishing rod, telescopic rod, I ner to the painter needs. Ultimately, it is, I think, sausages.
The thing to buy to get glue to buy the screw or cut and paste themselves in some way - finished! If it with the screw is too complicated, just dranbringen a micro-holder in any way.
The mic cable I would do with Gaffatape or Velcro so s.der rod determines that no noise be transferred to the micro.
At the other end of any good audio recorder or the camera connected. Coming On several meters of cable length from the micro should have the recording device has XLR inputs. Since there are already relatively cheap recorders in the field to 300, - Euro. The savings in Fishpole sowas helps to buy.
Frank
Antwort von Backgroundworld:
Many, many thanks for the list!
So the Audio Technica would be "just" a microphone jack, which one would have to buy ne synonymous extension. Would go anyway, Micro jack + extension directly s.The Camera?
