Frage von anselmoso:Hi folks,
I am looking for a good tripod for my camcorder. Can you give me tips because the low price range (20-40 euros) made?
The camcorder is
http://www.amazon.de/Panasonic-NV-GS-EG-S-miniDV-Camcorders/dp/B000EN3WL2/sr=8-2/qid=1163339794/ref=pd_ka_2/302-4001107-9237634?ie = UTF8 & s = ce-de Tripod shall have grade I in the eye:
http://www.amazon.de/Hama-4169-Profil-69-Tripod/dp/B00005KCJP/sr=1-17/qid=1163340121/ref=sr_1_17/302-4001107-9237634?ie=UTF8&s=ce- de My Applications: recordings of music videos (of course, not fully professional). So far, of course, some blurred images, which should be with a base-Tripod change. I would actually not more than 20-40 euros for the tripod to give up, unless there is no tripod in the price category that is not immediately collapses at the slightest touch: D
The only important thing is that the camera on a fixed point and it sits to the right / left pan can. So far the problem is mainly that the pictures in the strong hand shake when zooming or sulfur core.
We are professionals and I said no comment so far "as synonymous quite clear, but sometimes would be a simple tripod handy.
Do you so Hama part is usable for my purposes and I do so (for whatever reason always synonymous?) Unhappy?
Greetings and thanks for your tips
Antwort von *the.jokeR*:
under your circumstances ... I recommend synonymous Monopod ... and quickly build mobile ... for musikvideos StadyCam would be a useful ... but less than 200 ¬ kriegst because none ... (except self)
Otherwise, your stativ quite suitable
Do you have your camcorder already? otherwise my advice is to sony. easy operation and better quality ...
Antwort von poluroud20:
The camcorder I already have and the results for my needs are absolutely sufficient.
Then I ordered this tripod well, thank you.
Antwort von steveb:
Hi,
I had some time ago times when Saturn Hama 63 for 15 Euro gekauft.
Is cheap and unbeatable for the price indeed been fairly decent. There was even a bag here.
Antwort von Markus:
The only important thing is that the camera on a fixed point and it sits to the right / left pan can. A video tripod needs a damped pan and tilt so that you clean pans can be realized without bucking.
In the best price range comes only Velbon in question, but with 40 ¬ you will not even be there. Invest prefer 80 ¬, which is worth it!
Antwort von beiti:
I would actually not more than 20-40 euros for the tripod to give up, unless there is no tripod in the price category that is not immediately collapses at the slightest touch: D
The only important thing is that the camera on a fixed point and it sits to the right / left pan can. So far the problem is mainly that the pictures in the strong hand shake when zooming or sulfur core. Is this a joke? I know people who have for Tripod Money spent more than the camcorder, and it can (depending on scope) even makes sense: A 300-EUR camcorder on a 500-EUR-Tripod makes much softer (and thus a professional-looking) pans as a 780-EUR-camcorder on a 20-EUR-Tripod. The image quality of both your camcorder will be, however, at least under good lighting conditions, without a direct comparison can not be distinguished.
But back to the ground. :) The Velbon-Recommendation of Mark, I can connect. Those things are known for their amazingly good price (ie, twice the cost of some other manufacturers are not with) and with EUR 80 really Allerbilligste what you stand in terms of video without remorse can buy.
With the cheap Hama you'll probably more shakes than with hand-held camera. Without Fluid head klappt halt no real swing.
Antwort von Markus:
Is this a joke? I know people who have for Tripod Money spent more than the camcorder ... ... what GS27 synonymous with a particularly difficult not to be! ;-)
Antwort von anselmoso:
Hi folks,
I've just phoned with Hama and then learn that the profile of my chosen portion 69 has one drawback: not a "quick flip" or whatever that thing is hot. I have since then every time the camera on and screw off.
Do me now Hama 71 Tripod profile for 47 euros at Amazon ordered. This is 2D (I do not need a 3D swivel head) and has this "quick flip", which is attached s.der Camera.
A few hundred dollars for a tripod, I believe that currently spend just nonsense, I take 2-3 months all times on a video and am anything but professional route, so must go as synonymous.
Can then report back here again, as part of the works, but I am confident that my "amateurish claims" totally insufficient. 'm Synonymous with the Panasonic camera and its image quality very happy.
Well, the thing I most times ... am curious whether it really "shake more than if I use the camera in hand": D
Hello: D
Antwort von Markus:
... that the profile of my chosen portion 69 has one drawback: not a "quick flip" or whatever that thing is hot. I have since then every time the camera on and screw off. With a camcorder, just a plastic threaded tripod, it would be poison, if it every time and it should unscrew. However, I do not know whether that is true to the GS27. (This part is Schnellwechelplatte).
This is 2D (I do not need a 3D swivel head) ... Who has told you a 3D head is recommended? The only when there is still image, but not for video tripods.
See synonymous:
Pan, tilt ... what more do you want? A few hundred dollars for a tripod, I believe that currently spend just nonsense ... 80 ¬ ... a few hundred dollars ... a very nice difference! But from a technical effect was not nearly as large as the between 40 and 80 ¬. ;-)
Since some people lose synonymous quick eye for the "financial degree" [...] and give tips on the cost side of Good and evil lie. I can do in this case does not recognize. Or you can find for 80 ¬ a usable tripod really too much money? Schaus you at least once s.and then decide for yourself.
... it should not fold or fall apart, we have a good tip for "video entrants who are looking for a good tripod. Uh, such a tip for beginners, we have already. So yes, we have you of the Hama-part discouraged and Velbon recommended. This had been his reason ... ;-)
BTW:
... these "quick flip" ... At least since
Antwort von anselmoso:
Moin Markus,
80 ¬ ... a few hundred dollars ... a very nice difference! when the price issue I am referring more to Berti's contribution, who spoke to Tripods for a few hundred dollars is nothing special.
If the part Hama absolutely useless to me, I will tip the Velbon lead to heart, I'm obviously thankful for every tip!
I have no one 3D head "recommended", the beginning of me said stop portion has a 3D head, so ichs've just mentioned.
Did you at the Velbon s.ein specific model for? The example here?
http://www.amazon.de/Velbon-V40434-Ultra-Maxi-F-Tripod/dp/B000A1T11I/sr=1-3/qid=1163410116/ref=sr_1_3/028-7519195-7383703?ie=UTF8&s = ce de
Antwort von Markus:
Did you at the Velbon s.ein specific model for? The example here?
http://www.amazon.de/Velbon-V40434-Ultra-Maxi-F-Tripod/dp/B000A1T11I/sr=1-3/qid=1163410116/ref=sr_1_3/028-7519195-7383703?ie=UTF8&s = ce de No, the above model is again only to take photographs. Look at the times
Antwort von poluroud20:
So one is meant for example
http://www.digital-top-shop.de/product_info.php?products_id=1815 The important thing is just the fluid-head, ie it is steamed, so smooth you can make horizontal pans (which distinguishes him is a photograph of a stand, where this is not necessary)
LG
Peter
Antwort von anselmoso:
Alright, thank you Peter.
Will noted: D
Antwort von beiti:
when the price issue I am referring more to Berti's contribution, who spoke to Tripods for a few hundred dollars is nothing special. First is my nickname "beiti", and secondly, the 500 - ¬-Tripod-Comparison only an extreme example to be able to look at the importance of the stand to clarify. I have a recommendation for the Velbon pronounced, of all the "cheap" tripods currently best price-performance ratio.
Incidentally, the relatively lightweight Velbon synonymous. Markus said of the CX-686 completely weighs only 2.8 kg. The CX-586 weighs only 2.4 kilograms, has the same swivel head, but somewhat less stable legs. Good Combination of Manfrotto, etc. comes to almost double.
Antwort von schumi65:
Hello anselmoso,
Mark and Peter have already emphasized that it makes more sense as a tripod with Fluid head should be. Also of my favorite comes in the form of Velbon DV 7000th With this tripod you succeed buttery soft and verwacklungsfreie panning shots, guaranteed.
I had a synonymous Hama Tripods Preiklasse the bottom (approx. 20 euros), but that I will not swing smoothly, but quietly, without movement in a direction to film.
Antwort von anselmoso:
Hi folks,
hab mir jetz but beiti's advice to heart and made a Velbon CX 686 Tripod ordered on Ebay for 50 euros. The Hama was unfortunately too low, I have a rogue with 1.30 m ordered:)
Jetz gehts s.Amazon back and hopefully the Velbon comes soon:)
Hello to you all and Mercy
Antwort von beiti:
The Hama was unfortunately too low, I have a rogue with 1.30 m ordered:) Unfortunately, your GS27 Viewfinder not swivel upward, so has the compulsion to the camera at eye height.
I fear that the Velbon without center column extended synonymous not higher than 130 cm. But if you display with films, is no preference.
Antwort von darKOR:
The Velbon is with extended center column 163rd
is the poor, the middle column undress?
Antwort von beiti:
is the poor, the middle column undress? It wobbles more content, especially with longer focal lengths.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
is the poor, the middle column undress? It wobbles more content, especially with longer focal lengths. The extended center column converts the three-leg into a monopod handy, of course, not nearly as stable. Avoid so practicable, the center column off whenever it goes.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Markus:
For professional tripods there is for stability reasons usually not extendable center column ... but if you Velbon ans a consumer creates scale, then the stability is quite in order. In this case I would not synonymous, however, smaller than the DV -7000 take.
Antwort von anselmoso:
So the Velbon that I beiti recommended, it is now there. Even in the extended state of the thing is super stable and makes a great impression valent. BIG UP for the tip, super!
The only thing I still have not quite savvy, this "quick flip". The has a screw and a metallic "pen" on it, which is purely press. Will I have my camera to grab this flap thing, I can not turn (yes, I should have to turn the screw on it "- is not it?), Because this" pen "then the way is the" turn it on the thread / the screw. "
The first attempt is the Camera then "stuck s.dem pen" and I could no longer move gscheit - however not synonymous they sat on the plate ---> was still not totally screwed drauf ....
very strange thing ... and unfortunately no instructions at this Velbon ...
someone knows the problem? : D
So briefly:
On the lid is a screw and a "pen", the press is pure. My Camera is synonymous below the appropriate thread for the screw and a hole before synonymous, where the "pen" reinpasst.
I think that is OK - you have the camera somehow to turn the screw on it, so she sits at the door. "
That is unfortunately not ... because the pen is in the way at first .... Rotate And since my camera is a hole where the pin is sitting at the door, this pen is not synonymous "pushed down" when you rotate .... the camera is also "hang" when trying to get them to rotate out .... and then is anything but firmly on the door, but still very shaky ..
comic construction ...:)
Hopefully someone understands me: D
Antwort von beiti:
Take a coin and spinning so s.der screw. ;)
Antwort von anselmoso:
Yes I did yesterday with his screwdriver probiert, the net has worked ....
You mean so s.der bottom screw this "pin" twist?
Antwort von beiti:
The pen stays where he is. Rotate sollst You s.der other screw.
So: The camera will record it on the camera to the ground that the pen has the right position and place. Then s.der for the tripod screw thread turning, until the plate firmly in place. Do not rotate the plate itself.