Frage von Wilma:
Hello!
I had already opened a contribution to the purchase recommendation of NV280. The Canon MVX4i had excluded me. Now I am thinking on whether I should increase my budget yet, at 100-200 ¬. Is it worth the additional expenditure. The DV - I am currently in need input) is not (perhaps later. As the quality of the older equipment is 250 NV The 500 model it costs 200 ¬ more again (online prices). What is its advantage.
Thank you for your answers!
Greeting
Wilma
Antwort von Jan:
Hi Wilma,
the 250, he is a little stronger in lowlight than the 280s, 250s, among others, still next advantages:
- DV + AV IN
- Headphone Jack
- AF Scharfstellring
- Intelligent accessory shoe
The GS 500 is presumed to still a small corner faster than the other two, due to its larger CCD 's - really meaningful test's of her I have not seen before. The Battery on the 500 is still a trace stronger, DU 14 is included in the other du 12 The photo resolution is indeed the highest in the GS 500.
Whether the AGS function GS 280 / 500 does have to decide yourself.
In whole, you are all 3 very close together. Are the "Multifunctions" important?
LG
January
Antwort von Acer:
If they are close together, the "best" model (NV-GS280), but the perfect choice. Why do I need a headphone jack, if I
1. disqualify manual and can not
2. test the sound through the headphone output s.Computer the first time in various situations can. It has no doubt soon get a feel for what it takes and what internal Micro net.
Intelligent Accessory shoe:
Why? - Do I need a video light, which over the camcorder-battery! should be supplied? Do I want an external Micro can not connect directly s.der Cam, or synonymous times somewhere else "to carry" (eg, interviews, music) night? An input jack makes it better yet!
The focusing is synonymous with the joystick and works fine (even tested).
DV - In:
You can still synonymous store its data on a DVD in *. avi format, it's just needs a bissl 'more space. And before you (this overtaxed drive camcorder 2x as much than just playing off; horny logic, huh?), I'd rather buy a few more DVD's to store and archive (it has 8.5 GB DVD's) are even on the hard drive ( external) data can be (almost) perfect archive.
Conclusion = 100 ¬ extra charge of NV-GS280 -> NV-GS300, in my opinion (difference DV - In both NV-GS300) to NO is warranted. The NV-GS280 is in EVERY case, the price / performance champion BEFORE the models 300 and 500th
You may prefer to spend the remaining 100 ¬ for an extra battery, and a bag filter. Believe me, the NV-GS280 is a positive surprise you in your present conception of her!
On a good decision
With love and greetings verzweifelteen conviction experiments
Philip
Antwort von steveb:
unterschreib ....
Stefan
Antwort von Jan:
Hello you,
I would not influence the decision to buy more, but MiniDV cassettes have proven to be a memory. And if there is a desire to edit the film on DVD burnt again, the tape offers the advantage of the views already quality, or whoever writes the Dv AVI format to DVD, usually but rather the compressed MPEG 2 format?
I think the manual focus ring really is not bad, who has made at times less light, or fast moving objects sharp / permanently wechselden objects will agree with me. The folding viewfinder is especially important for long-nosed been of benefit.
If not, the Tele Macro Function (I'll look again tomorrow, as expected for the 280 / 300) is available, you can make significantly less synonymous nice macro shots. The butterfly is at a close distance without Tele Macro synonymous so far gone, or it has hard shadows.
Of course, the 500 is not quite cheap, the Battery DU 14 is unlikely to outweigh the.
Who dazugibt a little more budget, and its claims are high, then you can even think about the GS 500, at 600 ¬, of course, wish not spur 250 is synonymous with good price (it extremely interesting to ¬ 800).
LG
January
Antwort von dirty Harry:
NV-GS280 no inputs
NV-GS300 DV-in Input
Both cameras feature sharper than the NV-GS250, but are fitted rather modest. Image noise is extremely fine and almost never bother. In low light are particularly fast movements in the Picture to see artifacts.
mfG
Harry
Antwort von Jan:
Hello Dirty Harry,
above, one could argue, I think the picture quality about the same, but in lowlight for me is the old 250 it better.
It's a moot point, are hold different views, but that a forum is there.
LG
January
Antwort von Ikarus:
Philip @ 100% agree
Pumpi
Antwort von Acer:
Philip @ 100% agree Thanks, but it does not even shoulder knock * * ;-)
Philip
Antwort von milos2003:
January wrote "I find the picture quality about the same"
guessed wrong. The new ones are sharper and the colors are not only neutral but also extremely brilliant and finely differentiated. Incidentally, I had previously also an NV-GS250EG.
Harry
Antwort von milos2003:
Incidentally, I had previously also an NV-GS250EG. What are you going? Besides, you shall take yourself too general, you have about 280/300?
Philip
Antwort von Acer:
* edit *
sry, was declared net
Antwort von dirty Harry:
I've jetz an NV-GS280. DV-in I do not need because I have also a MVX200i. In addition, land in my everything to DVD.
Greeting
Harry
Antwort von Acer:
I've jetz an NV-GS280 Na dann mal schreib Google?
Antwort von XYZ:
Conclusion = 100 ¬ extra charge of NV-GS280 -> NV-GS300, in my opinion (difference DV - In both NV-GS300) to NO is warranted. You have to remember that when mi DV camcorders - In or AV-in,
thanks to the dear EU 14% punitive tariff on it in addition
Antwort von XYZ:
I did buy the 280 ... or wait for Grandma nochwas dazuzahlt on the SonyHC3.
Since presumably there are worlds in between ...
Antwort von Jan:
January wrote "I find the picture quality about the same"
guessed wrong. The new ones are sharper and the colors are not only neutral but also extremely brilliant and finely differentiated. Incidentally, I had previously also an NV-GS250EG.
Harry That is so something like this: I drive with one BWM at a 40 degree turn with a speed of 180 on wet asphalt, with a Mercedes rausgetrieben I was at 185 and had 50 cm right next me, I found the cornering ability of the Mercedes better.
This is relatively, that is a matter of taste.
Now I could test with eg the VAD (which have to compare different test methods as a simple film-maker).
Lowlight GS 250 good
Lowlight GS 280 / 300 Satisfactory
Of course, this does not have to agree what a synonymous Mag says.
I had checked me, all new 3 CCD models have the Tele Macro function so GS 180 / 280 / 300 / 500.
LG
January
Antwort von jabone:
Sure it's a matter of taste, but tests have been `discovered 'that the new generation of camcorders of Optics is even better than its predecessor, ie, sharper, richer, etc.
Antwort von Cookie:
Hi folks!
Do I want an external Micro can not connect directly s.der Cam, or synonymous times somewhere else "to carry" (eg, interviews, music) night? An input jack makes it better yet!
The GS280 has a Mic jack input? What Microphone ba da buys so and where? I will often use the part in strong winds ...
To lead without the thread of topic: What about as a direct Comparison with the SonyDCR-HC96? The cost mom. about the same - about 640 ¬.
Does the Panasonic Cam is really no "sport-housing"? Would love to go under water and protect against sand s.Strand ... (For the Sonygibts for ¬ 160 a case)
Regards,
January
Antwort von Cookie:
So I give my views even a little bit in the answer:
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Sony-DCR-HC96-Camcorders-Review.htm
^ ^ Below is the HC96 short compared with the GS300.
Now I'm here less that the synonymous GS300 can record either to the SD card?? That would be pretty horny!
Can someone tell me about it more?
Is that synonymous with the GS280?
LG
January
Antwort von Cookie:
Okay, probably written something stupid. This was meant only in the context that we can with the Sonynicht save photos to SD card. - Treasures I guess.
But I would still be interested in the views from your Comparison GS280/300 and the SonyHC96. - Or are only Panasonic Fans? : D
Antwort von Jan:
Hi Cookie,
that's how many Videocam's with memory card. You can either save Stillimage's or MPEG movies with the Resolution320x240.
The HC 96 has not many advantages for me, as might have:
Capture Video: Progressive
: Zebra
: Time Lapse function quite well
Stillimage: Bracketing, continuous shooting
AV IN, Lanc control bush cutting
In Picture / sound quality is not better for me, just like the manual options and the included accessories and connectivity options.
You can, thanks to the 3.5 jack plug s.Mikrofonen infect a large number - "cheap" original VMS 2 (ca. 100 ¬) or micro-directional Sennheiser MKE 300 (I ha now under 150 ¬ in the company - unfortunately she has 2 LR 44 Batteries as a voltage Charms - no rechargeable LR 3 and LR 6 - but a top Micro and probably the best micro-directional up to 200 / 250 ¬.
Sony gears as only originals like HQP 1, HST1, HGZ 1 or the new Bluetooth wireless Mirko HW 1 zb (30 meters away, the Micro can be)
LG
January
Antwort von Acer:
This is a clear statement NV-GS280/300. Gibts in innovation for 640 ¬. And the SonyDCR-HS96 can be forgiven in there, where it was built (made in Japan?)
Philip
Antwort von Jan:
@ Acer Sonyfeinlich You're set, well most of them Japanese --
Canon, Sony, JVC, Panasonic, Pentax, Fuji, Casio, Nikon etc, there are even companies that their models in the same hall produce ....
LG
January
Antwort von Acer:
@ Acer You're Sonyfeinlich set Now übertreib's ma 'net. ;.)
I stand by Sonywie
Antwort von Jan:
Well, the spins at the moment, Panasonic will continue this year with 50% probably are the number 1, say until the present time, my numbers if all sell similar - Media and Saturn, figures I can overlook, "" Sonyschwächelt strong at the moment HC 35 / 44 / 46 / 94 / 96 will very rarely, but without end Panasonic GS 27 / 180 / 280 and DVD camcorders VDR 150th Canon hatt synonymous caught, the MV is 900 at me just like the GS 27 / HC 23rd
Well time to wait and see if the SonySR 90 / HC is 3, is Sonywohl get back above water. The photo area is currently the SonyW 30 / 50 beat, although I see them not as strong, expensive battery, smaller CCD - compared to previous, less manual, but with little aluminum case - most people want that ....
LG
January
Antwort von Acer:
That's cool. Sonyschwächelt. But I find the bold Saturn (I say what?), The Panasonic NV-GS280 for 800 ¬ (799) and sold it at the Innova to be had for 638. I once compared to yours, and Saturn and Media Markt but relatively expensive (in the camcorder area of course), because of low rates. Well, the offer to refund the difference amount for the same product in the same district, I would zurateziehen in any case.
The fairness: The chain sells Media Saturn but really cheap hard disks (250GB = 99 ¬) synonymous other things like printers and computers are even more expensive elsewhere. Too bad that is just with the camcorder is not an absolute rock-bottom was made.
Philip
PS: The SonyHC3 think I will net be sold as well as the HC1. According to my research, and slimmed down somewhat synonymous zun expensive for most consumer (and the Consumer make the most of the Sony camcorder buyers ...;.) Well, even Made In Japan, you will save net (before one shares fall was already synonymous with the delay of the PS3)
Antwort von Jan:
Yes ISPs are usually under my prices for business rates we are already favorable. I will now take gar nich mal on a consultancy and service impact.
In the latest color Stillimage gibts da mal some test's. Very fair offer were the camera to 50% not there, others had previously shown no shipping costs - then it 12 ¬, and others wanted a service package 19.99 ¬ (BananaNet wars I believe in the bill) mitberechnen, the well-known online stores Stillimage Koch Otto etc were almost the same price as I ..
Given the extremely low-priced imported goods being sold are often synonymous, synonymous of discarded equipment is often mentioned.
Everyone should decide for themselves ...
Well Media / Saturn does not compare himself with the cheapest Internet - Media Online - The gibts so - are more likely.
Yes Sonyverkauft yet most DVD camcorders, and much original accessories (to be yes-if Fremdakku does not go in the 2006's) but as with the Mini DV Camera Panasonic sales with me well before Sony.
LG
January
Antwort von Acer:
Online Media and Media Markt therefore belong together? I was once of a Media / Saturn employees do not (you) told Media Online, Saturn and Media Markt are different chains, which include net together ...
Given the extremely low-priced imported goods being sold are often synonymous, synonymous of discarded equipment is often mentioned. Would you advise me of innovation? I want my Pana Nv-GS280 namely net for 700 ¬ (Saturn) or 680 ¬ (special media market) to buy for 630 ¬ with Innova ...
Tell me ma 'please, what you think without considering your Saturn's position.
Philip
Antwort von Jan:
Yes I know that a lot of advice - synonymous with me - just - and then buy on the Internet - most people know it vornerein of. The a / or other sellers of my chain is therefore quite critical of the first interview, when the "client" failed to express, and IT comes with pretty good time, the conversation stopped very quickly. Yes first attempt stop is a media / Saturn / Promarkt etc, where you can play around s.vielen consumer models, goes into the stores, the least.
Yes Media Online "was designed" to customers where the transaction price too expensive
snatch of the Internet companies and the intercept is so well known.
Yes, we both belong to the Metro Group and practitioners, etc. We belong together you can see email addresses and Name@media-saturn.com s.den the same item numbers in both markets. Nevertheless, each individual market as a limited liability company, each man for himself - sales - jobs - out and back one helps oneself, and is pleased that we beat the other market, ranking in the month.
Better, I know few IT companies closer to occur s.and to customers with problems in my company of used equipment we hear synonymous.
There are indeed synonymous cameras where the median is far ahead of the IT companies, for instance, the Canon EOS 350 D with the Sigma 18-50 (better than the original of Canon) for 599 ¬ - I thought just having a shadow - the Reds -- one webcam squander so ...
Antwort von Acer:
Thank you, Jan. erstmal ..;.)
With innovation, the "EC-S is" off the back. I'm gonna but "risk" and order me the NV-GS280
EG-S soon. The ¬ 160 difference between Saturn and Innovation (Online shop) where the action is too big for me!
Here is the Page of
INNOVA is
LG
Philip
Antwort von Ikarus:
Hello Jan,
I have after long deliberation I ordered a GS280 at Dixons synonymous.
There was already a thread on amazon.co.uk:
http://forum.slashcam.de/eg-modelle-bei-redcoonde-vt33752.html?highlight=redcoon
First, I ordered the Panasonic at Zarse and despite online status "available" and verbal confirmation can deliver Zarse synonymous after a week not. So I canceled and ordered from Dixons yesterday and today received confirmation that the product is shipped!
Dixons has very good reviews and so far I can confirm this fully and completely. By contrast, an unreliable Zarse unprofesioneller & Shop.
I hope that I get a German model or the seriousness of the statement to take that Panasonic refuses to obtain warranty - is this even allowed by EU law?
If I buy a car by the EU re-import, for example, may then VW is synonymous not refuse it?
In any case, I'm very excited about picture / sound, etc. of the GS280.
The difference in price to median market is enormous and, of course, you're sure an exception was synonymous expertise and consulting concerns.
;-) Icarus
In any case, I'm very excited about picture / sound, etc. of the GS280.
Ikarus
Antwort von Jan:
I had personally been the case with Canon Germany, check the serial number comes first, according to where the device.
If there is no goods were Germany with my clients (IT customers) simply put is the product of the country X / Y, please send it there or contact them at the online dealer (which will not be interested), but in order to guarantee claims to make our Canon Dtl. no guarantee on their device. That was really hard, maybe not every company behaves like that. One gets the rare indeed with the camera so often survive the first 2 years, and thereafter must be paid for mostly anyway.
LG
January
Antwort von Peter S.:
The warranty (usually incorrectly referred to as a guarantee) in case of damage must provide the seller. Whether or not the camcorder for the distribution of the manufacturer or has been imported from Hong Kong.
MFG Peter
Antwort von Jan:
Yes, Canon has, unfortunately, only 1 years warranty pure, then apply in Germany is still 1 years warranty, so you get to the statutory 2 years in Germany.
In 2 years (Canon), we rely on the goodwill of the company as well as here in the Canon or Kodak photo section ..
Sony, JVC and Panasonic give pure 2 years warranty on your camcorder, and must be synonymous share the full 2 years, the camera repaired free of charge / of course not the case at / water / pressure loss.
I had wiegesagt the case with Canon Camera already in an IT, where Canon Dtl. synonymous repaired after 3 months was not on warranty.
LG
January
Antwort von Ikarus:
Hello,
s.Samstag I got my Panasonic ordered Thursday afternoon and s.Samstag s.der door - Top!
I did not have much time, but that of Picture and sound are class. Drive noise, I have not listened to the Fast and between the Canon MV950 and the NV280 worlds (and are twice the price ;-).
The camcorder itself is a UK model (NV280-EB-S) with German Manual and power cord for the charger. Content synonymous 100% identical.
I have again looked at the warranty provisions of Panasonic:
[code: 1 d40af70a5f:] Founded in 1983, the company gives Panasonic the end use for products in the consumer electronics a [b] Europe-wide warranty. [/ b] To each of these Panasonic and Technics products is a special warranty card, in terms of the guarantee listed in 13 languages. For end use of an initial lack s.einem device, he gets to [b] no preference in which European country he is staying, a free repair - provided he can show a valid warranty card and proof of purchase and make the defect within the warranty claim. [/ b] The addresses of the local sales agencies or competent agencies to the "Product Service Guide" that accompanies the product, be removed.
Panasonic Germany offers the end use in the fields of entertainment, household and mobile electronics is a 24-month free troubleshooting. The detailed terms
conditions can be found here. code [/: 1: d40af70a5f]
Antwort von Jan:
No, unfortunately not that synonymous is because the Canon on their warranty cards only draufschreibt Europe, the camera may have been of continuing to fast. Panasonic is probably as lenient ....
LG
January
Antwort von Acer:
@ Icarus:
What was written in SHop of Dixons behind the action?? EB-S??
Antwort von Magic_F:
Thank you, Jan. erstmal ..;.)
With innovation, the "EC-S is" off the back. I'm gonna but "risk" and order me the NV-GS280 EG-S soon. The ¬ 160 difference between Saturn and Innovation (Online shop) where the action is too big for me!
Here is the Page of INNOVA is
LG
Philip Hi Jan,
You ordered the camera on innovation? If so, what are your experiences?
Greeting
Volker
Antwort von Magic_F:
@ Acer (Philip), the question was, of course, for you and not for Jan ;-)
Thank you, Jan. erstmal ..;.)
With innovation, the "EC-S is" off the back. I'm gonna but "risk" and order me the NV-GS280 EG-S soon. The ¬ 160 difference between Saturn and Innovation (Online shop) where the action is too big for me!
Here is the Page of INNOVA is
LG
Philip
Hi Jan,
You ordered the camera on innovation? If so, what are your experiences?
Greeting
Volker
Antwort von Acer:
I ordered it still persuade net, it has yet to my parents.
