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Frage von Ollee:


Good evening,
I have more? here for several hours through the forum and have tried the search function, but not very precise answers to my questions.

I film for years often different sports in the leisure sector. Now I have the goal, during a sporting event and important to film scenes as quickly as possible to cut them.

Small example: in the first half when a handball team often achieved by a certain gate turn to the coach during the break the team would like to visually explain to those in the second half to be able to defend effectively.

In practice, then that is within minutes of important scenes are cut together.

Now the question for the purchase. I think that there is less on the picture arrives, since it's rather about the content than about the visual design. However, the camera quickly pans well with a generally synonymous with fast movements (eg balls) can circumvent.
An SD-Cam should be sufficient. (or?)

But how it looks with the Aufzeichnungsart from? DV, DVD, memory card or HDD?

Sliced whole is then well on my laptop with Adobe Premiere, which I in my opinion quite well mastered. Or it's because their alternatives, mainly due to speed of the cut?

Experts are sure you have other things that I observe. I'm grateful for every little tip!

First, thanks in advance
Olle

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Antwort von derpianoman:

Hi Olle,
I'm doing what you describe is not yet quite so long in football and must say that I am with the prosecution history of the game so busy that I only when Durchgucken at home with the decisive (recurring) scenes would perhaps discover.
And then the coach has been at the game itself eh discovered, runs with his team in the cabin and each film comes "too late".
That the perspective of the trainer synonymous Camera - (stab) would be good recently (I think it was Oliver Bierhof) in SPIEGEL online explained.

So first you probably need a second man,
of you after Abfiff roars in his ear: 5'30 "/ 10'25" / 23'45 "/.

All the respect, if you implement the technology succeeds. "My"
Team is even in the week about where we are
because the whole thing could look at it ...

LG! Klaus

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Antwort von Ollee:

Hi!
Thank you for your quick reply.

You've obviously right that it is precisely the task of one or two key scenes for the mid-term together to cut, is the heaviest.

May I ask what team you do this?

Of course, certain things should be synonymous in the training of the morning and then maybe s.Nachmittag discussed, so that more time is left.

What equipment do you work for?

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Hi
What you can try here if only capture live (on a PC .... this should happen here in the forum maybe give some of the TV so what do (film / cutting / working on sports events)

As far as the time when the coach comes into the cabin everything is ready .... hmm impossible but I do not think ....

The critical minutes during the game should be listed or, better still, directly with Key / markers are marked on the recording.
How can the coach later s.die direct scenes jump so like DVD, without the need to forward.
The man immediately cuts the material I think is not really necessary. Unlicensed direct "Chapter Choice.
But just what should go only if the characters are either coach or assistant directly only been trained for something ....

But if you're down because you've found a solution and then write something about this .... to implement.

PS. With radio, I could imagine you have more pictures bekämme material (Hinterm Front Page Tor, etc.) also would be a plus WACOM Cintiq Beamer here then good services.!. The World Cup but then more league ;-)

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Antwort von Ollee:

It would be so that I next to the coach on the bench would sit or at least close by, so I naturally Rufweite would be either in or on the basis of his own notes, or reaction (Thanks for this tip!) Would set a mark.

Your proposal would be to have a connection, which would still auszudiskutieren, the images directly in the laptop to capture, so that would be available immediately, right?

Thank you once here with me all the different situations and problems durchdenkt - only then yes you can purchase recommendations.

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Antwort von derpianoman:

"Olle" wrote: ... May I ask what team you do this?
... What equipment do you work for?


For the juniors. See: http://www.klausporath.de/50836195a5014680e/50836195e60d1b903/index.html

I have no equipment, what I would trust in this
Forum to mention ... SonyDCR-TRV 740E and Ulead 6.5 ..

LG Klaus

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Hey Olle,
Do not understand me wrong, but we are talking about building the self-Pro in the variation directly McGyver times can cost hundreds of euros.

Will you now do not be discouraged here, just mention it.

Other ideas which I / we just came here was / is .....

Either every gate and take the game run so divided ....
Or
A trademark (invent) to use directly after the starting gate Makierung 20 sec in front of the "gate" to mark (for example, Fast Break before break umbedingt do not expect that a point falls on its own page)

Also I think you have to cut the podium with Jogl Wheel, or the like.
The whole is slightly tricky but is certainly used of people "see broadcasts of the World Cup there were so synonymous moves repeatedly and directly inside rumgepinselt" So, my question ;-) then look in the cabin ZDF? -) So now I think you have understood, which makes it relatively difficult it is to be alone gewerkstelligen .... umbedingt but not impossible.

MfG
B. DeKid

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Antwort von Daigoro:

Before you get too many ideas do: have you discussed with the coaches and find it good for?

You can place a player / competitions synonymous with too much information zuschuetten him and bring total aus'm concept.

To debriefing is naturally super video footage - in fact the main reason why I've ne Camera increased.

For 'sport' such as football, where a large playing field to be covered and a lot of movement in the game, has HD (16:9 format) its clear advantages and you should seriously consider.

For 'schmalspur' sport (something like fencing - 2 people in 2 meters distance), I find the 16:9 format impractical. Thanks to the high Tiefenschaerfe environment has too much and too little athletes drauf.

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Antwort von derpianoman:

"Daigoro" wrote: ... You can place a player / competitions synonymous with too much information and it totally zuschuetten aus'm concept bringing ...
Because what could be tuned. When I think of my "small players think
then the effect in the cabin rather apathetic, synonymous if the trainer
verbally for the most blow ausholt. It could actually rest
reduce the break if they are synonymous then another 100% to a
Screen and the game from a different Perspktive focus should
instead synonymous times short (if secretly synonymous, -) thoughts roam
to ...
LG Klaus

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Antwort von Ollee:

Yes that is with the coach denied that he was actually the initiator. :)

If we take the mid-term meeting times disregard would only recording and cutting, for which I already have a certain amount of time would need, what equipment would you advise me?

To summarize:
I need a camera, which is for sports (mainly football) is suitable, and also the material must be very comfortable (HD falls out?) S.einem his laptop to work.
What I would like to make in response: The Camera should be synonymous not too large.

Again thank you in advance!

Olle

Edit: Is there a camera, with which I applied directly to the hard drive of your laptop can hold?

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