Frage von curtis:
A very good day together!
For an upcoming contract I need information about a complete system for live editing and Internet streaming. The whole thing is very urgent, because it is a very important job. Unfortunately, in addition to current projects will remain my own little time researching on the Internet, so I am looking for people who have worked in a live Directing himself cut to stream live events and and I can tell of their experiences and above all, a recommendation for can provide a complete production package, or can pronounce synonymous recommendations for competent dealer whose advice the whole thing for my clients and myself quickly lead to a solution.
Timeframes are 2-4 weeks. Until then, have been found to have the whole thing by 2-3 and functional testing for fit.
Regarding the equipment there is to date the following key data:
2 (later 4) Mini Dv / Dv cams, cable channels around 30 meters
Live control
1 Atmoton
Output is streaming wmv for i-net
So, I need to implement a complete production package for the whole.
My questions:
Analog or Digital?
Analog:
Camera -> Directing (Kontrollmonis) -> Sound Mixer> A / D converter -> Encoder
What is still missing here and especially when I get a compilation of AZ that everything needs to be here?
Digital:
The big new live digital control rooms are not (in the budget for Globecast> 10.000, etc.)
My thoughts were more responsive to ascertain whether it is possible to convert all coal for as little as possible with a single PC that works with a VJ Software and also assumes the task of the encoder. An important point is precisely synonymous, that the entire team will take place in two large station wagons.
Is there a reliable, technically advanced VJ software, which allows live editing with simple on video and 4 audio + video tracks can output track?
So basically I am talking not about the detailed issues, but I need a clear recommendation for a complete system of AZ.
Thank you in advance for your answers!
gruß, phil
Antwort von Markus:
Hello Phil,
You have already told that ¬ 10,000 is your budget, but what we are talking about? Live production is quite different from "Rotate and cut", there must in addition to lots of equipment (that you usually need not) be considered synonymous s.geeignetes staff, for a live production can not achieve alone.
If it is only for this one job, it would not synonymous sense to buy the needed equipment. Alternatively, you could rent equipment (where sufficient time for testing and for "dry runs to schedule" to einzuspielen the team) and with the devices to be trusted. Or you hire someone who has done it more often, and both have the necessary equipment is available as synonymous appropriate people.
Possible suppliers:
Antwort von Marco:
In my opinion, the system is ideally suited Sonydafür of Anycast. Video - streaming audio mixing and output are almost as united in a briefcase. Given the features of this device with 15,000 euro in principle is made very cheap, but then always go beyond your budget.
Can you yes, it still times (See registration required):
www.film-tv-video.de/newsdetail.html?&no_cache=1&uid=35751&L=0
or at such times www.sonybiz.net after the term "anycast".
Marco
Antwort von curtis:
Thanks for your answers!
The Anycast I have already considered synonymous. For my purposes, as you have already realized the ideal solution. But the price ...
The contract runs for more than a year, over 50 events. Experienced camera operators, sound technicians, etc. I have s.der hand. For the Internet infrastructure was synonymous for a competent partner.
Analog Video Switcher not cost the earth and the idea with VJ software + all in one PC like me are still very good.
To make the budget issue for the equipment times concretely:
We want 4-5k euros for everything that the cameras will spend about everything beyond the calculation.
The films of the whole literary process is so simple that the "feasibility question" really only lie with the equipment. Later, of these are "production unit" another 2-3 units purchased plus backup, so I just need a proven combination of an analog production system or even a clear recommendation for a VJ software plus a corresponding hardware interface.
@ Mark: Looking at your Page struck me at once your article about the TT World Cup again. Tough Enough calculated yet sounds too good for that. Sharing is not, unfortunately. Either accept or leave it. Movies Risch as I said, I see no challenge, technically not synonymous. The question is just simply "what?" and "Is it feasible with our budget?"
Thank you for your answers
Antwort von megalutzi:
Hello,
well, after Mark was already blocked, so I can not offer me synonymous with my equipment. (Could use some more synonymous utilization)
Well,
Video mixer, there are indeed s.Meer like sand. I would stay with analog. Especially with Firewire over several meters (for you, even after all synonymous 30m), I have had bad experiences. Above all, synonymous with the accompanying high price of cable.
Otherwise, you've actually listed everything: camera, monitor, mixer, ADW, encoding.
Since you can actually get quite good for your budget.
What usually makes sense, is an extension to Tally and intercom. This comes to costs or halt drauf times. Then it is running out with the money.
Above all, synonymous, the "small stuff" usually costs a lot more: Cables, Adapters, Gaffa, S-hooks, cable mat, Tripods ..... This list is quite long and it is usually synonymous always something missing.
My system: Videonics Mx-1, and video previews of Quadsplitter amplifiers, intercom system through wireless headphones, ADW of Canopus.
Much more art can be synonymous to see on my page. Stands in profile.
So far so good
gruß
Lutz
PS ifs do once in 2 channel mixer is, I was just a Panasonic Mx-10 left. Can I sell on demand.
Antwort von Markus:
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Antwort von megalutzi:
Hello,
well, I thought I was already in the Page View, but was not so. Now she's in it ;-)
Mark has done so quite a complete list, just the way I usually synonymous detail anything of it, especially a spare laptop (the cost was being played) as a student, a great role.
The list, I can really nothing more to add.
Schönen Gruß
Lutz
Antwort von Markus:
... especially a spare laptop, the cost factor (... For live streaming you must weigh up what is cheaper: A replacement laptop or a damages claim by the principal if paid for such a campaign, the production and the Streamingfarm, but the announcement broadcast is not running, because turns out the only existing computers?
The (own and others) damage to their image as well as the cancellation of possible follow-on orders not yet included.
Furthermore, one synonymous Equipment Insurance advisable to go for broke or can be stolen is always something. Again, the backup again makes sense, because even if an insurance policy the fallen camera (or the fallen laptop?) Paid, the unit for the current production is still not available.
Antwort von curtis:
Many, many, very many thanks for your detailed responses. State of affairs is that we recalculate for a higher budget for the equipment pool get. The majority of events taking place abroad, backup devices are therefore one way or the absolute duty. Since I can use, due to various other projects only a certain proportion of time then, I started at the same time to obtain bids from other vendors to make the whole thing if necessary. As for the equipment: We are looking for the opportunity to buy an analog needed to complete and have our IT Outfitters also charged with a digital low-budget system to be configured. If this provides a stable and reliable solution, we can save some circumstances TEuros. Besides, noted: We had the anycast as a demonstration model for the weekend. A good but not optimal solution. The price of just under 15,000, I do not feel justified for.
If anyone here wants to sell approximately an analog komplettausgestattetes live system with a vision mixer for at least 4 cameras, offers to: schumacher@zweiw.de
Antwort von megalutzi:
Hello,
If anyone here an analogous approximate komplettausgestattetes live system with plans to sell a vision mixer for at least Cameras As I said, I was just lying around a Panasonic Mx-10 vision mixer for 2 cameras here.
Since I can use, due to various other projects only a certain proportion of time then, I started at the same time to obtain bids from other vendors to make the whole thing if necessary Maybe I can help you as synonymous. Send me a mail with detailed information views. Then you will get another job (which of Markus ;-) or anyone else).
Schönen Gruß
Lutz
Antwort von thos-berlin:
Hello,
off and on when you can buy used beaknnten Interentauktionshaus mixer for 4 sources in the ¬ 1,000 range. The Panasonic Wv .55 and the JVC KM 600th Both can with S-Video and Composite (CVBS)-fed signals. The JVC is also still a tally system. Edirol by it in this price Bibster been synonymous mixer. The financial problem is certainly the preview. The idea with the splitter is quite good. Possibly. would the 4-way LCD Monitor Bridge 19 "format of video data in question (now cost m.: e to 1,300).
For the intercom could be used Kopfhörerverstärher (eg: of Behringer) and a small audio mixer. The headphone amplifier has the advantage that you can adjust for each listener a separate volume, and possibly even a second audio signal to feed ...
Greeting
thos
Antwort von Markus:
For the intercom Kopfhörerverstärher [...] And one could use a small audio mixer. That's what I recently had still synonymous in meaning, but the more I planned and researched, the larger, more expensive and more difficult was the installation:
PMR-Funk adé - suche Intercom-LösungTo see the attached draft to be able to just log in slashCAM.
Antwort von Dumina:
Hi Mark. Interesting thread, which you have since indicated. I think that you are with the "real" intercom solution going better - if you do this often genig. The mixer-Vatriante would be interesting for those who make something like this rare and possibly has the relevant audio hardware SOWISO have. (Maybe not everyone needs a micro camera, so that normal HiFi Headphones rich)
thos
