Frage von joerg-emil:
Hi,
s.Wochenende I have a choir concert recorded under difficult conditions.
- I had only one Camera
- The lighting was bad
- The camera was about 35 m away from the choir
- The Brass Band was in contrast to the very loud chorus
The concert I have with my SonyHDR FX7 recorded in HDV. Since the camera is too far away from the choir stand, I could totally pans, etc. forget it. To that extent, I have the chorus in a fixed static setting filmed.
Through the HDV recording is in my future yet succeeded in cutting, and camera tracks Umschnitte to realize, without in the DVD playback noticeable resolution loss to cause. In the film, it almost seems as if several cameras s.werkeln been practically a multi-camera illusion.
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=pcqzkwaB9Vw
(preferably in high quality view)
For all the times, perhaps similar projects, I have the video in "youtube" set. It shows at least an excellent example of how the possibilities of high-resolution HDV format can use synonymous if the final product a "simple" DVD.
Unfortunately, the Brass Band was in contrast to the chorus a bit too loud.
The two microphones were two t.bone EM 800 Small Diaphragm Condenser Microphones (Thomann.de). For the price unbeatable pair of 69 EUR, I can only recommend. I am with the quality very satisfied. The two mics, I have an external phantom power (also at Thomann for 35 euros) and an adjustable XLR Adapter (Beatech) directly connected s.meine Camera.
I'm curious about your opinion ...
Merry Christmas to you all ...
Gruß Jörg-Emil
Antwort von Kar.El.Gott:
Afraid of hard cuts? Why have you always used soft visors? Otherwise, you have probably the best of the situation.
Antwort von sony34:
I would have avoided on the pan and more details (such as individual singers and musicians) with the editing program rausgeholt. Otherwise very good recording and sound good.
May I ask you with what to do microfinance?
Antwort von thos-berlin:
See above
The two microphones were two t.bone EM 800 Small Diaphragm Condenser Microphones (Thomann.de).
Antwort von sony34:
Oh, Sorry, who can read is a clear advantage!
Antwort von Frank B.:
@ Joerg-Emil
How did you do that with the microphones and the FX has 7? The microphones need phantom power but that the camera delivers. Do you have them on a mixer or an external recording source operated?
In both cases, s.besten but in the 2nd Case, it is possible with the microphone closer to the events to come. Wind Band (which incidentally is none) and trombone choirs and wind ensembles (as here) are usually much louder than a choir. It would be ideal, the brass does not distinguish between the choir and to have the microphone. Then the still dominant, as the winds will also be closer s.den acoustic transducers, are sitting.
In your case, however, there was not much to do, because you sure do not affect the seating arrangement had. They sit very close s.Chor. Possibly. had a small stereo microphone in the back of the deep bass which is still, whose recording you then to the previous recording had cause them.
But, as I said, in this case was for you not much more out. In addition, the winds already professional who know exactly how loud they are to accompany the choir may play. Very good in your videos to see that they are not directly in the audience blowing, but the acoustic instruments in the openings of large and entire position in different directions. Thus, they can hear themselves well and will not be so dominant in the choir.
I soon had the impression that the choir would have to sing a little louder. The assessment is very difficult for the singers, as they in the back of the winds and are thus not as good sound and also getting themselves a relatively loud listening. From her audience then sees the matter somewhat differently.
Could it be that you had a few Aussteuerungsprobleme? I have s.meinem Internet computer monitors are not good interception and also ensure the audio is heavily compressed has been synonymous to set it at Youtube. So I can fool synonymous. But it sounds to the already powerful scratchy highs.
Frank
Antwort von Frank B.:
The two mics, I have an external phantom power (also at Thomann for 35 euros) and an adjustable XLR Adapter (Beatech) directly connected s.meine Camera.
Oops, I should have been synonymous times on drugs for the increase in concentration to think, or just finished reading.
Sorry!
Frank
Antwort von thos-berlin:
;-)
Antwort von PowerMac:
Not too bad, except for the shitty screens.
Antwort von Isekram:
I think the synonymous "fan" too loud.
But what do?
Why is all the fan BEFORE the choir?
Antwort von -ssSonyY-:
is dir gut gelungen! .. yes, the apertures need not always be .. especially in music, one can indeed beautiful on the clock cut, if man can ;-)
Antwort von joerg-emil:
Hello again,
na thanks for the many responses!
@ kar.el.gott, and ssSony powermac
yep, you did right, the panels are in fact not have been necessary and will it in the next times synonymous heed. Unfortunately I had to cut almost no time, because the DVD is for all choir members under the Christmas tree is to be .... the whole concert has lasted 80 min, because I've ichs easy and quick to make (Saturday evening to Sunday afternoon Transfer) ... hard tactful exact cuts would be just for this song in any case more appropriate.
@ sony34
Large photographs of individual singers were not possible, I could max 1 / 4 of the screen to choose, without loss of resolution to create. To do this I would have at least one more camera to have.
@ FrankB
The two microphones were left and right about 4m Height quite close to the choir s.Deckenlampen. Unfortunately, the two microphones were approximately 8 m apart. Really stupid for stereo recordings. When you listen to the unedited recording Headphones on, I am of the totally exaggerated stereo effect become synonymous directly bad. In the post I have the stereo width, therefore, significantly reversed.
The sound on youtube is a bit worse than that of the DVD. I have already post in a compressor used youtube then another set on top, it sounds hollow then quickly and sheets. In some places, but synonymous, I stood close to the clipping. The Dynamics extent of the concert was very wide (lone solo singer to complete with brass choir), and I did not want to constantly regulate, because the dynamics does indeed broken again.
Beautiful Christmas again .... and are you going to let ...
Gruß Jörg-Emil
Antwort von mann:
Is amazing how much better HDV (on my Powerbook G4) is shown - I would not have thought.
What kind of tripod did you incidentally?
Antwort von Meggs:
What kind of tripod did you incidentally? The Tripod likely played a minor role, since it is a static recording acts.
I find synonymous, ne impressive demonstration of how to make an HDV recording useful for an SD video can be used. Also impressive, the sound quality with the cheap T-Bones.
Antwort von mann:
The Tripod likely played a minor role, since it is a static recording acts. It is synonymous warn a few pans in it, which had to remove / Tele yes pretty slow and his soft.
Antwort von PowerMac:
The Tripod likely played a minor role, since it is a static recording acts.
It is synonymous warn a few pans in it, which had to remove / Tele yes pretty slow and his soft. Software pans are made!
Antwort von mann:
Software pans are made! 3x drüber read, but not isses in the head inside. Is today a little longer ....
Antwort von joerg-emil:
@ mann
the first setting of the whole choir, where the title synonymous appears, is synonymous the only setting in the camera, I filmed the entire song had so completely static. The Pan and Zoom are calculated in the post.
HDV has roughly a 4 times higher Resolutionals for a DVD is needed. Therefore I could from the static HDV recording up to 4 times smaller field of view and select these as the overall picture pan or zoom out from that without the DV format s.Resolutionzu lose.
What you on your G4 Calculator've seen, it was therefore not merely HDV DV ...;-)
Gruß Jörg-Emil
