Frage von Moritzk:
The end of September I will record a concert recording for the tape break in style from Dresden.
The recorded concert will then appear on a pressed DVD.
Currently, I'm like up in the preparatory period and a cost plan.
Since this is my first Kozertaufzeichnung, I'm on the search for a consultant or rather I am on the search for a partner of the planning and preparation through to the finals record with would be there.
Experience in the concert recording is of advantage.
A fee is paid, of course, please expect but not too much, because for me the whole project is an important reference and the tape is synonymous only on the rise.
I myself am 23 years old and Resident at Wismar s.der Baltic Sea ... by phone, email, etc. from the place you do not come so important, important to me is only the old is not too removed of mine.
Experience is good, but still I am the boss :-)
Filmed, the whole with 5-7 cameras.
Currently it is a Canon EOS 550D with a 1.4 85mm lens for near vision, besides a SonyHXR-NX5E, a Canon 7D with 50mm 1.8.
Cut the material after s.Schnittrechner. A live cut would be technically perfect but is currently not feasible and synonymous Kostentechnisch simply too expensive.
Camera men / women looking for: Who is technically well equipped and can bring your own camera (; Henkelmann or DSLR), which can feel free to contact me again.
Very good low light capabilities are therefore absolute requirement.
Gage shall be paid on basis for negotiation and technical equipment.
Kamerakranspezialist looking for: I myself own a small camera crane synonymous, but with a 3 meter long boom is not the bomb.
Therefore, I am synonymous can bring to the search for a Kamerakranbesitzer of his own camera crane, as well as their own camera.
I imagine it in front of a camera crane with about 5-7 feet boom.
Gage shall be paid on basis for negotiation and technical equipment.
Contact me to get your s.besten using the contact form of my homepage.
I look forward to hopefully many mails, as well as tips and comments.
The venue:
http://www.alter-schlachthof.de/
Best regards,
Moritz
Best regards,
Moritz
ps. an advertisement for the concert is in a few days at Dresden, television, the television of the passenger transport as well as Dresdner Youtube.
The commercials have also been recorded of the Moeke film production.
Antwort von Trenki:
What is your budget? Could bring a Canon EOS 7D or EX ...
Antwort von Moritzk:
The budget I can not determine exactly!
I'm just s.Rechnen and planning.
Create an estimate of the tape and then be seen.
The budget for the camera people I see at about 100-130 ¬ for the evening.
The money was not the main reason for his participation, but PASSION.
Email: @ m.kertzscher Moeke-filmproduktion.de
Antwort von Trenki:
Retrieved from "passion" I can not pay my rent and food, drink, etc.!
Honorary fitted
only 100,00 to 130,00 ¬!? Sorry, I thought that at least p.250, 00 ¬!
Antwort von Trenki:
You have been given the tape is not even an estimate? I thought you were the order of the tape already!?
Antwort von Mink:
I am looking for an apartment: Berlin-Mitte, 4 bedrooms, s.150qm, terrace or balcony would be nice .... the landlord should it lost less money in Rent than about "the passion s.vermieten go" ... namely, I can only pay between 100 ¬ and 130 ¬ .....
The orders are indeed to hear no more soo small ... but to calculate start times s.realistisch undzwar before ... then the tape may dispense with the crane and two of seven cameras .... but you can pay your people a decent pay ....
Still, I think but who wants to earn a bit of experience, inna lives nearby and can handle ne camera can perhaps gain experience .... Konzertfilmerei straight can be tricky ... sometime you should but then
I look for students with Camera for the little money left
draufhalten level ... right?
What gets your Regieassi .... Co-producer ... besides the honor?
Antwort von nico:
But Mink,
what you bring because of strange terms (Regieassi .... co-producer ..) into this discussion? Something like the Lord knows Filmprodution do not!
Read it once its website - especially the "About us". Since it is clear that he is a Alleinkämpfer. This is certainly not bad, because everyone has had to start small.
But the fact that he thinks they have to constantly talk of himself in the third person (plural Majestis) is at least amusing.
No later than when the reader learns in July at 38 ° summer heat, that now at last the year 2010 begins
After a long, cold winter, we now start in the year 2010 and have a lot before! becomes clear that someone is s.Werk who serves in the absence of real facts and meaningless filler sentences, which then, just as professional as you can only forget to update.
Because you just can not expect that such minor figures as assistant director, C-producer, etc. are there and even play a role. You can see it synonymous that are found on the entire Web page not breathe on also, unimportant things such as equipment.
As synonymous, when in fact the working people should bring their own stuff?
Antwort von Alf_300:
Organizational skills is even more important as equipment
Antwort von Mink:
But Mink,
what you bring because of strange terms (Regieassi .... ... Well he has already asked for one ... hats were not so called.
So the cheese bread today but a development is to see ... only must ibid some trace left no-budget ... especially when it comes to a (pressed) DVD production for a tape with multiple cameras, cranes and advertising in public space .... such "jobs" is no longer accommodate the Moritz long uncritically here ... so the cheese bread - medium to locally successful tape - to?? .... The next step would probably come and that is perhaps time to name the tape NEN regular price ... synonymous if the wondering and say ... "Nee for Money .... so we have not presented our music videos ..." ... then must seek to stop someone new and always synonymous jolt to a certain level of around ... IRR ME OR I?
Antwort von Moritzk:
... On every single sentence I would like not at all, because I'll go my way and my way to the
Even with criticism, I've learned to deal to get you into positive energy. The criticism eg. to my homepage (Articles), I will gladly accept and improve in the coming weeks.
I can only grow in the criticism is brought against me, I can then incorporate this into my act and do.
Now something to the actual topic of this thread!
Ungefairen a monetary value, I of course, the tape had informed!
This value is not comparable with the value of the vllt you would calculate as professionals for denoch ¬ it is a few thousand.
A budget of 150 ¬ - 180 ¬ for a camera man / woman for one day of work, I see it as appropriate, especially with about 5-6 people + camera camera crane operator and a right hand synonymous value of ¬ 1500 is coming together.
And so are so far from all costs covered!
I must, of course, synonymous something to earn my time to cover something!
What is obviously synonymous very important to me but is a new reference, I can show this.
I think it is absolutely incorrect now be recognized otherwise as a high price level, if one has no sufficient DOCUMENTS references.
So I hope to continue Interesting letters.
The concert will take place in the way Dresden slaughterhouse.
http://www.alter-schlachthof.de/
Best regards,
Moritz
Antwort von Corpse:
Is precisely not the issue, but would be interested to know how you want to do a live recording with an HD DSLR, if the record but only 10-20 min s.Stück?
Because you spend hours at the video yet Sync
Or there's a workaround?
Antwort von PowerMac:
The workaround is called Frickeln for hours and create by hand.
Antwort von Mink:
They are already more than ¬ 50 s.Anfang;)
Is so slow ....
Tell me if you commute more often Moritz between Wismar and Dresden could even talk by watching (dv-kameraverleih.de) ... have very good Prices and synonymous NEN crane which can at least 5m ....
Antwort von Jott:
Since this is my first Kozertaufzeichnung, I'm on the search for a consultant That's an honest message.
A few free tips for low-or no-budget concert films:
No camera hodgepodge, and certainly not mixed video and DSLR. Otherwise you screw weeks s.Schnitt s.visuellen and matching. So: only video cameras, all from the same Manufacturer, all set to factory settings and White Balance fix to artificial light. That's fine views of from the house. AVCHD is useful, because without the sufficient maturity to change media.
Next: forget all the underpaid cameramen. A manned main camera goes, you make yourself. A second person plays during the concert on my account with the crane. All other cameras are placed and firmly fixed somewhere in the hall, on stage, s.Schlagzeuger where it's just sense. Clean images of several fixed cameras bring you an average of more than wagging of "camera people" because in your price range are the quotes absolutely necessary. HD recording, you can wonderfully kadri later, zooming, etc., because the end product is indeed SD.
turn to run before the concert and all cameras can. When one door Syncpunkt beat that trigger a flash, no preference. Video cameras remain the same manufacturer usually two hours long frame accurate synchronously.
Sound at all the cameras on automatic. Mix dry tapping the desk, take this a capable sound engineer on board who get baked without the distortions in a medium of his choice. By taking one or more of the other cameras afterwards the atmosphere (room acoustics, audience reaction mix) and so.
On a real dress rehearsal, so there are 1-1 of the concert schedule, with original light and the final stage clothes for the tape. All cameras can be synonymous here already run along, that is your insurance, if the real concert was something wrong.
Editor: software with multi-cam editing. Super easy and goes so quickly that you can actually earn money with such a Project.
And a hot tip relating to press shop: you think out of the copying, otherwise you will get guaranteed problems with relevant institutions, and the tape of it, of course, will not hear anything.
Antwort von Valentino:
These are all really good tips only this is actually not clear:
HD recording, you can wonderfully kadri later, zooming, etc., because the end product is indeed SD. Especially when you see the Halbbilderaufzeichnung even small enlargements synonymous any good SD medium.
A trained eye can see even on a DVD, whether they were zoomed in a 4k HD Recording on inside.
Especially with AVCHD, even a small zoom range and immediately you see the Kompiemierung of the H.264 codec, which is hit straight at Lowlight s.seine limits.
The whole thing then s.end "quickly" converted to mpeg2, can have great consequences and lead to a "gruesome" picture.
Antwort von Moritzk:
Thank you for your firstonce now quite Useful Tips!
The idea to rent cameras of the same brand, I think is what I call quite good. Synonymous and I think it is good to zuverzichten Many cinematographers, but to install fixed cameras and five more yet to vllt three of these cameras, mobile professionals can be served.
Which Camera is recommended because there s.viel this memory for the duration of recording is and b) can be synonymous without pause recording. At my former AVCHD cam I think the clips were all 3-4gb separated and created a new clip. Even if this could then hang multiple clips to each other, was the sound s.der interface error confinement.
It only makes me a little scared when I eg. 5 x EX1èr loan, and then they broke through a false step is a band member.
The proper place for the cameras is certainly not easy, since he be protected from theft of a Page must be attached to the camera must be stable and here we are again for example in the question of the right Tripods for hanging.
But now I get a pretty good idea slowly.
The place in the concert hall is quite thin anyway, would be fastened because the cameras do very well.
Antwort von PowerMac:
I find the idea very well. Similar cameras use. No mix filming cameras and video cameras. Zoom in you can already claim one is synonymous damn if 1% of the audience, to see the can. This is not a movie.
beat in between flaps or offset with long working in the cut. Maybe you'll make it a couple of area lights attach to the stage and turn the light toward the film.
Antwort von Corpse:
if you do not hire as many Cam's can then just go with the one source camera in two songs on stage and you get several close-ups.
Antwort von Manuell:
One point of Jott, otherwise good tips would not apply but I.
Sound at all the cameras on automatic.
By taking one or more of the other cameras afterwards the atmosphere (room acoustics, audience reaction mix) and so. Better still use an ordinary audio recorder with external microphones connect tuned for the Saalatmo or s.die main camera and then auspegeln course manual. [/ Quote]
Antwort von Jott:
These are all really good tips only this is actually not clear:
HD recording, you can wonderfully kadri later, zooming, etc., because the end product is indeed SD.
Especially when you see the Halbbilderaufzeichnung even small enlargements synonymous any good SD medium.
A trained eye can see even on a DVD, whether they were zoomed in a 4k HD Recording on inside.
Especially with AVCHD, even a small zoom range and immediately you see the Kompiemierung of the H.264 codec, which is hit straight at Lowlight s.seine limits.
The whole thing then s.end "quickly" converted to mpeg2, can have great consequences and lead to a "gruesome" picture. Nonsense. That can only come of someone who is such a thing and never makes Egogründen on more expensive technology is. Of course you can zoom HD Halbbildaufnahmen trouble, what are you talking about for a nonsense. We do exactly the constant, and not for low-budget stuff, but for example in high-paying event recordings for global companies. Cameras like the 11-SonySR deliver up to such purposes (SD final product, mind you) a faultless picture. But hey - everyone knows he's better! The tip was free ...
@ Manual: that with the automated system was meant seriously, because the manual Auspegeln is once again ahead of someone who can even synonymous, including proper handling with a limiter. The trick is always error to nip in the bud, and that includes to keep = underpaid unqualified personnel. It's all will cost nothing. With the small SonyAVCHDs for example, I know from experience that a very homogeneous incapacitated via automatic recording.
If a concert recording is real and not "buddy service level" and paid, you have to do something about, of course, no thoughts.
Antwort von Jott:
At my former AVCHD cam I think the clips were all 3-4gb separated and created a new clip. Even if this could then hang multiple clips to each other, was the sound s.der interface error confinement. Oh dear. Every decent NLE can join these physical part clips again correctly and frame accurate. These are, however, all the additional files necessary to like to be embezzled for backing up (what's this - I do not need ...). You should really closer to deal with your equipment!
Antwort von Manuell:
@ Jott
Yes ok then fit yet, so it can enhance any event with the simplest of means is true already.
I tell yes relating to unqualified personnel, always happy, like someone had to switch the camera for the shot s.meiner only the tapes, said the stage was something far away, if he could not zoom in a bit ....
Well and I was young and unererfahren and had enough stress with other things and thought he could zoom in einbischen quiet, the main thing the stage is completely on it.
Unfortunately he did not s.Zoomring rotated, but s.Schärfering and eight bands were of the recordings of four bands of the long shots fürn ass.
My major Conclusion: One should rely on himself and his ability, or professionals working with :-)
But everyone knows these stories and learn from such experiences and it is growing. So rather NEN friend, or ask someone unqualified to stand next to the camera and watch on it, but not dranrumzufummeln.
On the subject back.
I would like to help you, let me know but too far away, but it is already.
Antwort von Jott:
My major Conclusion: One should rely on himself and his ability, or professionals working with :-) Print, frame and hang over the bed.
Antwort von Moritzk:
I imagine that with the cameras, as follows:
5 x SonyEX1 (2 as a mobile, three as fixed)
1-x SonyHXR NX5E (Mobile)
3-4 SonyHXR-MC1P (attached s.den instruments, or hidden on the stage)
Does anyone know which of the SonyHXR-MC1P? How do you propose at Low Light ... but I have to look here at gleichmal slashCAM.
Antwort von Jott:
If the concert has a fairly normal stage lighting that is not a "lowlight" is. Or playing in the dark?
This super small Sonyist for unusual settings, but sometimes really expensive compared with other options. So it is still money there, a full range EX1 is synonymous fine - just let it rip times!
Where now remain the CMOS / rolling shutter-augurs, the producers want all our excuses again?
Antwort von Moritzk:
:-)
On the subject of light I'll probably have to talk first with the tape. But who has ever heard the tape vllt to remember is that there could leave the lights flicker and auchmal something.
Have just one review from the "Videoaktiv Digital" to SonyHXR-MC1P read. Enriches Especially in low light, you have very poor results.
Yes the camera is very expensive ... so I will borrow you so synonymous.
If I just so rude durchrechne I borrow all the cameras with about 1000 ¬ here.
Antwort von Valentino:
It is with the zoom into a picture of the deadly sins in productions and should only be used as a last resort.
What is so hard because times between each song to send someone just to s.die cameras and zooming right?
Just the fact that the customer later wants an HD master and still synonymous for good coal puts on the table, makes such an artificial zoom actions of advance obsolete.
A text designer would choose his Typo synonymous never wider / higher or greater zoom, but another typo or larger font.
What is it to understand the wrong?
Not even wrong is with the cameras to film before filming a gray scale / color chart.
The color matching later makes a lot easier.
Antwort von Jott:
But it is not an HD-Master! Read it with, it comes to SD, but you can even mediocre nachkadrieren HD sources wonderful synonymous dynamic. This is spoken of a lowest-budget number because you have to runtersteigen of the very high steeds may miss!
Antwort von Manuell:
What is so hard because times between each song to send someone just to s.die cameras and zooming right? And then I run again, a cold shiver down the spine ;-)
Antwort von penkeler:
A no budget live recording with two cameras. A SonyVX2000 and a Panasonic:
http://www.konzertfilmer.de/video/ghostmachine-singleversion.divx
As the sound engineer has made only live scales, was dubbed in part, the former sound from CD production:
http://video studio.hit.bg / video studio-videosample4.html
Antwort von Moritzk:
@ Manual
Have just something on your Myspace Page and rumgeschaut me has fallen mostly what I have seen :-)
Vllt we might as well Tretten times in contact.
Best regards,
Moritz
Antwort von PowerMac:
I think that is synonymous for rubbish, Valentino. We do not talk about movies or glossy advertising!
We zoom in to images often synonymous, kadri stabilize new. This is completely legitimate and looks good. We work for large companies and it fits beautifully.
Antwort von Mink:
If you pile your son cameras fetch from the lender .... try them all carefully ..... so thoroughly true .... and always take two rather too much per Camera Batteries ....
Antwort von Moritzk:
If you pile your son cameras fetch from the lender .... try them all carefully ..... so thoroughly true .... and always take two rather too much per Camera Batteries .... Have you made bad experiences with sagging, or why your care? Clear ... it is about much money, but with you it sounds like more than the caution.
Antwort von Mink:
So when the camera department ne camera picks from the lender ... the mill on the heart and kidneys checked .... it takes ... who take the real deal ....... because if later what is not working .... is stupid! I myself have been (except with Batteries) made no really bad experiences ....
Antwort von campool:
Well and I was young and unererfahren and had enough stress with other things and thought he could zoom in einbischen quiet, the main thing the stage is completely on it.
Unfortunately he did not s.Zoomring rotated, but s.Schärfering and eight bands were of the recordings of four bands of the long shots fürn ass.
already. I am in pain ...
Antwort von Manuell:
So durchzuchecken the equipment properly makes sense to order the shooting synonymous everything runs reibunglos and so you have no stress in the return.
Can you contact me if you like, but basically there are already distributed all the important tips in the forum.
Offtopic:
But I'm still sad that you did not want to buy the Panasonic is rubbish :-) ne synonymous already sold.
