Frage von Gregott:
Dear Community,
book now I am on my s.Anfang Professional Studio Cameras and Accessories to be informed. Approx. 1 years, I had planned before I would buy everything. I have been successful and popular animated videos for websites and rotated. But what everyone needs to know to draw s.Land larger orders can be simply some equipment if you do not want to fool. I will establish myself in an old hospital, a studio with green screen studio, etc. I have already spoken with the tax advisors and we are at a maximum credit of approximately (because I got already wobbly knees) 150,000 ¬. So that is my budget. Most of all I'm looking for Red cameras, because I want to shoot digitally. Unfortunately I had not figure that the new models still are not outside. The Red One will cost with all the bells and whistles then 50000 (dollar) and then set up, no studio ... I can give someone a deal in Germany, in which man can, for example, time filming with ner RedOne? Maybe even synonymous one in which one can test the most popular professional instruments against each other? An acquaintance of producer and I make successful films, he laughed at me when I told him that I want to shoot digitally. He swears on 35mm Arri. Since I am alone but then the scan already too expensive, I want to at least a cam that will not cost more money if I paid you already.
Thanks for info and advice!
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Hi
So the question is what do you want n.kaufen all of the 150?
Then there is the question of why you will want to have their own "Red" - You want to give the synonymous - You have experience with sollchen cameras and editing the material.
Those are points
So with Equitment, equipment, computer and furniture - there are 150 k spent very, very quickly "- (speak from experience - and am still far of movies or Pro Equitment - which regards the self-production projects)
If I would think it all very well and then just let's see whether it pays or expects.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Gregott:
Sure, I want to own your own. Want to be synonymous install the rent in my concept, right! Yes 150,000 are really fast away, I deal extensively with video editing, animation, etc., have been synonymous commercials even smaller (but always stumble s.The limits of technology), it is clear to me that with, for example, a Red begin a new epoch would be what the post-treatment, etc. are concerned, the shooting synonymous s.sich is sure to another. Therefore I want to study it closely before synonymous (own course work) before I have the equipment. So I can start immediately then synonymous. I would hesitate Bin synonymous aware that many purchases. Before I can start with the editing, I've previously synonymous already invested a lot and I've already synonymous nen MacPro with 8 cores bought two graphics cards, etc. ..
Antwort von marwie:
What equipment do you work now?
As for movies, animations, etc. You do all this?
A RED One is not to stop for anything, perhaps it would be better to buy one (or more) cheaper and universally deployable camera (s), and a RED One, etc. to rent if needed.
There is always the risk that you buy equipment that we think must necessarily have (or others think that it really needs it), but which then you use too little. So I would first buy only the most necessary and rent the rest of Project related.
How many people do you work together in each case?
Antwort von Britta Leuchner:
huu, .... aaaalso,
I'm from the film industry (which is why I am here in the video section sometimes rather silly ;-))), and I want to tell you one thing:
That your friend has you laughing, was not nice, but not quite synonymous unnachvollziehbar. It's like this:
You will be able to work professionally, always working with different cameras, never just with a. The RED is synonymous deliver their well-known problem where other's Digital Cams far better results. So, in specific application situations. My speakers are right, why do? Rent is still ok, and you will save a lot of trouble and are always up to date What if next year the
"Blue" ;-) come out and said everything that can be replaced, 35mm, 72mm ... etc. Then you sit at your every turn RED and BLUE :-)
No, that was obviously not meant entirely seriously. But this hype, you should not trust synonymous. It has been said so often that now something happens that supersedes everything. But such things can not give it and it will never be synonymous. The outcome depends of so many components and aspects - and ultimately synonymous off your skills - that I would think s.letzter place on equipment. Die geilste tracking shot that I have ever seen and I will still remember all my life was in a wheelchair instead of a dolly and a miniDV camera and self-made 35mm adapter rotated and the film has creamed off a lot of Prices.
That in turn with the studio is another matter. Might be worthwhile to sit when you s.Schnitt especially with customers want and studio shoots, etc. plan. But then I would s.deiner place - if you have never been leased large areas for their own company - to advise me with many people. I have already passed through a few times and have always made stupid mistakes early that cost a lot of money. An important point is landscape design! By that I mean no flowers on your editing suite balcony :-) but that you are under Rental and rack up your life in the shack. That makes the customers a good impression and if your tenants living in similar climes as you are active, you may directly add value through conversation, people sharing or equipment issues, etc. More synonymous synonymous operation protects against invasion and against his own neglect in Work. I know what I mean. ;-))
CONCLUSION: So that with the RED, I think is unwise, not with the studio may in turn.
Antwort von Britta Leuchner:
A RED One is not to stop for anything, perhaps it would be better to buy one (or more) cheaper and universally deployable camera (s), and a RED One, etc. to rent if needed.
There is always the risk that you buy equipment that we think must necessarily have (or others think that it really needs it), but which then you use too little. So I would first buy only the most necessary and rent the rest of Project related. There was someone a few minutes faster :-) Had the window open too long, hehe :-))
Antwort von Gregott:
You're right! You should buy something like this only when you need it, so I'll buy my Cam synonymous only when I have orders accordingly. At the moment I am still "alone" (at least in terms of production) and work with any number s.freien staff, project-just ... Animations I've made, for example, fashion shows and advertising, and animation films for the Internet and smaller screens, for example at trade fairs or synonymous suitable for local movies. I'm currently really only a one HF100 and 500d respectively, but both have severe downsides ... synonymous with what the green screen work far ... they simply serve up 100 percent no realistic Key ... (single hair?? forget it), the synonymous level control is more than modest ... or not possible ... dominates the 500d, although the game with the depth of field very well, but it is not suitable for panning shots ... it's just extremely annoying, and both can not work on a professional!
I've looked at so many things to me now about RedOne and'm just not consistently excited .. I mean where else do you get for so "little" money the way (you know, use, etc. assumed) the same means as in Hollywood, we'll see of the lighting, etc. from ..
PS: I will certainly know in which direction your questions ... it comes from a small Depp and he thinks needs to buy ne Red and has no idea ... has set itself some cocoon in the head and next week he buys a big wheel ...
I'm synonymous Due to many inquiries and permission interessenten such considerations (yes considerations not facts) to be considered. I do not do it all happen yesterday ... Some things I do not know, because I am self-taught (although one of the morning to the evening itself deals with the matter ... and even on the ***** house). I'm still in training but I want to start their own next year. How far do I invest it or if I'm just trying to make it erstmal 3D with coal, I do not know ... is to come with me but once again the need of real footage with 3D cross and the latest since I need to re ne Gscheid cam!
In the end I really wanted to be taught not synonymous (although I can certainly understand), but just only know where I can test ne Red ... But since I am now informed the meantime will be delivered only in the U.S. ... Would probably then have to play my contacts and me with a couple of times for digital camera is not locked and people talk to me of the hollow where a few tips!
Unless it's someone else here able to give me some tips on?
PS: Was ne answer Marwie ...
Here is the answer to Britta
Thank you for your post! So I can start something! Yes, I know I can put all that stuff to me synonymous rent, but I would if I'm honest, rumtragen all day and they film the camera view with the toilet and take to bed ... I want to have easy! I'm there have always been a little crazy on it, and now offers the possibility to be a ... And perhaps even synonymous dazuzukaufen ne others ... 40,000 euros, then yes there is still left something ...
Incidentally, the with the wheelchair, dolly etc.. I've already behind me, and if I'm honest ichs'm tired .. Site spotlights assembled studio styropian walls covered in turning around ... but I think it must have gone through each time and then later to appreciate everything else! Now I want to say but how you been, just a studio when I can lead discussions with customers and and and And. .. Oh yes because you are the addressed, I have synonymous before entering the premises in which I will () old hospital, all kinds of hollow men. I mean it's perfect! You can watch ne hiring hall for 100 euros and have 5-meter high walls and one riiiieeesen hall! Then, with the door so you can even rent your ne home with 4 meter high walls and quite large do not know (exactly) And all red brick and very old:) da beautiful dark parquet, and it has a purely Schonder the perfect atmosphere. A few long-haired unshaven students a rum and you've got a small artist's paradise:) This is me
Antwort von Britta Leuchner:
PS: Was ne answer Marwie ...
well, but he has not so far wrong. Although this was not your question. And in the end this is about the same but shorter than what I said to the RED. I know from personal experience that it always feels like as if someone else in between that klugschwätzt what we ourselves already know. And forums are well suited for any misunderstanding of this kind. And often I was the 2nd Step explanation, which I had long been thought through, however, and I really wanted something on the 3rd or 8 Step hear. And often I get an answer to a question that I had not called while, but I could use it s.anderer body but good for me.
We're all just stop people looking in the clutter of our matter to deal with every day, we ourselves. And I have many questions! And if you sit down and then once someone answers, one comes with its own stuff next only if the issue has to do something with its own theme. So let's do not be discouraged but be careful and remember each synonymous (synonymous unwanted) advice, he ultimately comes from the heart, because no one has anything like this to give you any advice. I tend to still be grateful. Unless the person who insulted me personally and beat me down malicious. Sowas gibt's hier synonymous, but often is not meant that way and one can draw with a smile, a friendly way. So remain calm.
Even at the risk that I'm with you now, next unpopular ... If you are in a training, you should seriously think about whether a loan is the right start. Today in the film industry take out a loan - at the very beginning - if not of Spielberg or Pixar is sponsored in person and receive his orders, I think frankly we are synonymous very courageous. And I know what I speak. Your tax advisor as indeed seems to be synonymous relatively calm compared to your plans?
PS: And with the long-term students are synonymous to me, I would consider good :-)) The hundred dollars rent for long-haired students, the Office of synonymous live much money ;-))) Vorallem when they come from film * hehe * ... Fun
Antwort von Gregott:
Ne he had synonymous right! It's true, did not somehow come across annoyed! I merely wanted to know mainly the turn of the thread, if there is the possibility to borrow the equipment to be considered comparatively or in-store!
Ehm the way, I understood, I think wrong. I would like to rotate so no films! (At least for the time being I do not) want to shoot commercials. This is especially true for Germany a huge difference!
And the risk considerations, I'm coming yet, we have so grossly erstmal outlined. The tax consultant familiar with me and stop my work and find you well and know that I establish myself.
But I have to think erstmal lot about yourself and weigh the risks. Did not be bothered to sit down and owe nem Berg None gives me nen job. Although I have many orders now synonymous and thus deserve good, but these are small web pages, and movies, etc. .. that cost me money monthly but not synonymous. Say what I now occupy, I can invest again completely without major concessions, employees, interest payment, repayment, etc..
My idea is, since I want to address synonymous with larger firms or as it now runs to me with recommendations next hochzuarbeiten. Speaking here then me but a larger company, I must shoot s.and example white boss, I would no longer have to do with my makeshift studio.
I'm wondering whether I might want synonymous just let the big Investiotion wait a bit. And I should buy erstmal ne decent shoulder camera. That is at least schonmal professional. Studio course I need synonymous. If that is then run into and I want to develop myself. Shall I then take the large investment for me. Currently, the camera is purchased then yes still for a few things.
Well well ... that will take take everything anyway still take ... it's just so fun to write about it, then it feels even more real!
Thanks for all answers!
Antwort von Mink:
I merely wanted to know mainly the turn of the thread, if there is the possibility to borrow the equipment to be considered comparatively or in-store! The thread would then read: "RED, or where rent professional equipment?"! Everything is clear .... So lenders are a lot of technology! If you do not even get the zusammengegoogelt wirds hard as manager of a commercial film production, or?
Ehm the way, I understood, I think wrong. I would like to rotate so no films! (At least for the time being I do not) want to shoot commercials. This is especially true for Germany a huge difference! Especially in Germany, I think it is not so, the difference is except the advertising is often expensive and more money is available ... Oh yes, and the crew is often international ..... or what are the differences?
The tax consultant familiar with me and stop my work and find you well and know that I establish myself. How did he know it? If he comes from the advertising industry? Sideline?
Did not be bothered to sit down and owe nem Berg None gives me nen job. That will happen if you did not damn lucky ... or slow down ...
My idea is, since I want to address synonymous with larger firms or as it now runs to me with recommendations next hochzuarbeiten. Speaking here then me but a larger company, I must shoot s.and example white boss, I would no longer have to do with my makeshift studio. When is the boss of the big company you draw it with shouldered camera, light suitcase aufn mogul tied off and sound equipment?
If you'll get a big order .... Equipment is rented ... Crew put together .... or you want to do this alone or in threes? Not enough.
I'm wondering whether I might want synonymous just let the big Investiotion wait a bit. And I should buy erstmal ne decent shoulder camera. That is at least schonmal professional. Studio course I need synonymous. Are you a good camera? Then you can probably use a shoulder camera synonymous professional ... a shoulder camera is not professional but they shoulder most of the (cliche!) ... if you can not handle it kommts synonymous rather embarrassing ....
it's just so fun to write about it, then it feels even more real! Sure ... :) Mir synonymous ....
Antwort von B.DeKid:
I perso. can understand many things here.
I sollchen synonymous go one way.
Only thing my old farmhouse is just nen.
The thing is next year and I paid for it is because synonymous Savings bonds can proceed to start the first "convert barn".
If I can only say that I shit gefressenhabe the last 5years and have lived in shit - but I'll come closer to my goal.
Step by Step
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Our Powermac had had the time well written - where he has clearly said that it only makes sense to borrow Equitment - when it comes to big projects.
Ne drehfertige Red stuff, plus additional costs you s.Tag nen tawy - then 2 to 3 people who can handle it had 1500
All together this would cost the customer about 3 -4 000 euros s.Tag
Nen rent studio costs synonymous not the world if you want to scan any cars.
The scene is already rented for a long time just stuff.
My tip
The Red String!
Rent of VariCam, Red up to 35mm Cam what you need, and indeed only what the customer pays and wants.
Purchase you ne nen EX1 and Sachtler tripod plus 2 light suitcase - with Greenbox ne kleine Mobile Hardware Keyer
When again 10 to 15 k you have left you still buy small ne MoCap unit.
Since then haste about 25 to 30 K spent at play ".
Thus, here's some.
In addition, you bring all of 2 years and 10K on the bench you lay to 5 year savings contracts s.wo you pay 600 euros per month Approx.
Any bonus money you invest in gold or real estate.
The times you were doing 15 years and then synonymous ne reserve and get at the bank once synonymous vernümpftige loans!
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I'd planned to tackle a very calculated and and protect me from all sides.
MfG
B. DeKid
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=de&source=hp&q=Red+One+mieten+Deutschland&aq=f&oq =
And here you will find lenders s.Start have the ne D Country Red.
Ner in any professional photo of this year, was synonymous ne list by postcode sotiert concerning whether studios for rent - I FONG times where I have to - otherwise the inquiry time DSLR forum.
Please do not forget that if you ever have credit, you lose certain freedoms synonymous.
Sach times where you come from?
Antwort von marwie:
Hi Gregott,
I wanted to come in no instructive or so there, I myself am not a professional, and sometimes synonymous still faced with similar issues as you
I've looked at so many things to me now about RedOne and'm just not consistently excited .. I mean where else do you get for so "little" money the way (you know, use, etc. assumed) the same means as in Hollywood, we'll see of the lighting, etc. from .. Well, there is exactly but the dog is buried without a good lighting, etc. provides synonymous with a Red One, a movie not like a Hollywood movie, that one must be clear.
I would suggest to you, but once rent a Red One for one day (surely you can find a distributor who has the camera in the offer), or you can hire the camera certainly synonymous show times.
Most likely you'd be as already mentioned as DeKid eg with a SonyEX1 (R) or EX3 and Letus Extreme DOF adapter has one, etc. better served. For example, a camera is more flexible and easier to use than a Red One. With a 1 / 2 "Camera synonymous you have the advantage that you no longer depth of field DOF adapter have available 35mm look may be quite nice, but not always desirable, and handled quite difficult to stop on shifting focus, etc.
Just be s.Anfang to be flexible and take on many jobs, there is one with a more universal camera better off than with a Red One.
Concerning studio: in the old hospital synonymous enough power available? In a larger studio are quickly realize n.notwendig several times a reasonable Lighting to.
How much experience do you have room acoustics in the area? The room should have as little reverb and very good of the environment be protected, which is synonymous not quite trivial. Are you planning to build the studio itself or allow others to build?
I think it's good that you have the courage to make yourself independent, but I should go step by step and not make too much on credit.
I do not want your tax advisor to offend, but how well he knows his way around in the industry? I would talk possibly with someone who knows so really, who can alert you to possible errors and so synonymous.
Oh yes, show times but a few things you've already made, I would be, and the others certainly synonymous interested.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
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Concerning studio: in the old hospital synonymous enough power available? In a larger studio are quickly realize n.notwendig several times a reasonable Lighting to.
How much experience do you have room acoustics in the area? The room should have as little reverb and very good of the environment be protected, which is synonymous not quite trivial. Are you planning to build the studio itself or allow others to build?
..... Good Throw - alone heating, electricity and insulation please calculate it!!
They are alone with me (for the conversion of the first barn, body shop) at about 30 K (including small HausKrafwerk, cables, circuits, and etc.)
Since then missing s.Einrichtung and Color s.der wall ;-))
Then maintenance costs (in terms of heating and electricity) per year, about 5000th
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Gregott:
@ mink I express my views about this now, not
@ beDkid thank you would lead me your suggestions to heart. My tax advisor has probably synonymous really not too great idea came to me synonymous a bit premature. The decision for me as I have precedence over all planned and structured and it takes time and got here yesterday, the resulting proposal and the scenario here, set times and had received all of ne gossip! Perhaps a good thing ... It is just not easy! PS: Come out the Augsburg area ... there is still quite mau in terms of industry, may not compete with, or better to say very little, perhaps no other interest?? S.München but I'm synonymous close so I'm flexible!
@ Marwie ... I've told myself that it with the camera is not done, I know I can synonymous synonymous have all the equipment ... but still there is no staff for everything, no question was now synonymous to take the exam here:) I do not have written to me tomorrow and I will get 150,000 giant red ne order, I think I made the mistake here too early to write in the forum. Since I have not been sufficiently informed me about professional equipment ... I have myself to stop working now more with the consumer area, since I have the equipment nor synonymous. I would like feelers a bit and was synonymous pretty well all the reviewers here ... except one, which is simply a provocative and disrespectful. I've come to the sum erstmal bad ... previously synonymous've always thought that I am saving me all along, then I recommend getting the credit, because I can have everything at once, ie not just buy the cam and then Lenses but all at once! Since then I've felt just like Christmas, I wrote here a little bit cocky, which may perhaps synonymous to one or another have a negative mood. But well well, I have once again been brought to the floor, because I do not always just wanted to be in debt and has already written, as before, that would probably have to follow ... Get me then views on the rent of the equipment and then start to inform further consideration. Incidentally, I know myself very well in Google, but have not found a distributor in which I can watch a Red ... None, however, would have found ... I've found through my research, buy gibts only in America to ... I would have told me about rent, I would have found it well;)
edit .. Heating costs have you right! Even quite right! That with the hospital is not safe for the following reason, namely ... you have to heat with oil: P if not renovate ... Adieu!
Antwort von B.DeKid:
How it all said no problem - ask anything you want quiet - it will help you gladly times the people here or elsewhere.
Only always nice to be realistic .... until next year anyway then there is the Scarlet Scarlet ne able to buy more before you with ner "ollen Red angewackelt come ;-))
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Buchungszeichen:
A little objection as a nonprofessional:
In principle, I would never enter with a RED. A company needs to grow ... With your own know-how ...
I would erstmal with an EX1 JVC or a start (as long as Canon is not considered necessary) to offer a meaningful alternative to miniDV. In addition, I would buy myself a DSLR as a professional. Photography is part of the filmmaking and synonymous with tripod so you can probably synonymous with a little practice to produce a useful film look. Then when times comes the really big order, can you buy or rent a RED - if you're sure to allow for better monitoring of your way to ...
Antwort von Gregott:
Thanks, I'm the super! Is synonymous, but sometimes a good thing if you get time nen shock when it is justified. You have to develop s.besten stop everything. I think next time I start my reasoning but not with a forum entry that is obvious, because I totally Gesprächsbedürftig, as my friends with sowas have absolutely nothing to do, so I have to talk with you about it! Others are working in the industry again not independent but are working for big companies or have otherwise begun. For example, producer acquaintance of mine, used to be pretty high with Constantin Film and has then almost anyway Money with existing self-made ... this is something entirely different than when you are with "must work your non-professional equipment" and that only with initiative, creativity, etc. .. Can indeed synonymous lucky and ne tin soup photographed in different colors or have a monkey in color on a painting shit and sell it for a lot of money, but the reality is unfortunately much more likely that one must first bleed around all deserve! Incidentally, I'm not figure out a different forum and have enjoyed the people here is the fact there knowledge of the area are in contrast to the other forum!
So I'll punch my time dreaming about my girlfriend and of Scarlett;) or dreams in the dream of ner Epic, what then would be pretty megalomaniacs ... naja ich bin synonymous sometimes I gebs to! : P
PS: Clips of me no, because it always is in connection with my company and I want to remain Anonymous or is it in conjunction with companies do not want to admit that you pay little money for what: P
Antwort von Mink:
@ mink I express my views about this now, not
What I have written wrong??
I just think what you write not only sounds slightly naive.
Have not written even the thread is a bit early (though we're playing really erstmal synonymous with ideas and can brainstorm).
Antwort von Britta Leuchner:
If one must read through here so I have to say that the real here ne is quite relaxed community. :-) In other forums would have been flown to shreds. Find Class I, hats off!
Purchase you ne nen EX1 and Sachtler tripod plus 2 light suitcase - with Greenbox ne kleine Mobile Hardware Keyer That's what I call a constructive Throw ...
PS: If the EX3 would have only a reasonable low-light. Then I would suggest rather the EX3 to remain flexible with lenses. Well ... : P synonymous nurmal so loud thinking in the round ...
But basically the guys have really pretty. The next lender in the city where it is rotated is really the standard today. ALso I know it anyway otherwise. I always synonymous Found Eigntlich totally logical, as one has a few genuinely cares less. And with a few well-developed contacts must hire so synonymous garnicht be expensive. Here in Berlin I have been synonymous with the big lenders built up a long wire and there is as synonymous strangled her and miss a eye. For that I am then synonymous times there when the guys irgdnwo need my help. One hand washes the other. Like I said, all just people.
PS: I just hope the website does not live here of RED expenses. Then there's one auf'n cover for our advice ... : P ... Fun ... :-D
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Interests me here is something else: Which bank, please, is a trainee EUR 150,000? Without collateral, and so I do not mean that the equipment for the bank is completely worthless, with no mortgage securities and security of Mom and Dad you get not even 1,500 EUR.
As for the rest: a microeconomic Red makes more sense than the hall, because a Red can sell you in an emergency and in general always rent a hall are you constantly s.der cheek for so long your lease runs. Any other recommendation can not but come of a woman.
Incidentally, only fools laugh about Red users. If your friend would have enough brains and time to look outside the box, he would have long recognized that synonymous in Hollywood, only the nostalgic turn everything on celluloid uneconomic.
MB
Antwort von Buchungszeichen:
... he had long recognized that synonymous in Hollywood, only the nostalgic turn everything on celluloid uneconomic.
MB bearing in mind that synonymous nostalgia can be economically ... the content is what matters, not the equipment.
Antwort von Britta Leuchner:
Any other recommendation can not but come of a woman.
MB Too bad, until there was about this time, the interpersonal level in this thread is still quite okay. Smells a bit after an attempt at a Flaming-dying thread. Well. As anyone needs it ...
But in the case, doubtful cases that this was a seriously intentioned Throw -> not every female nickname on the network is hidden behind a wife, but this simplicity seems to be yes men Reserved :-) Do I have often experienced here.
That apart, your managerial advice about RED very doubtful and little male (at least your view of female / male), because RED is for the purchase only worth half that, and even less next year, while real estate depending on the situation (hire-purchase etc.) have other possibilities. But wirs can be good about it.
A hall can be synonymous rent, and I'm sure sure there are more applicants than available for your
"RED from Hollywood." What do you mean Hollywood? I ask) times the only way, because I was out and once again synonymous look outside the box (fly / work) :-) ...
Interests me here is something else: Which bank, please, is a trainee EUR 150,000? Without collateral, and so I do not mean that the equipment for the bank is completely worthless, with no mortgage securities and security of Mom and Dad you get not even 1,500 EUR. Funny thing is that you are speaking here of even worthless Equipment ...
And how when and where he gets the credit, you will now really nothing. If you find that doubtful, should go into other threads and stir things up there. But here you are not particularly constructive.
For the rest, no one here to laugh at RED users. Differentiation here is the secret watchword. Am I a man with several leased warehouses and Equipment at least been here since time and used rarely, but with success. Perhaps you should drink a little less coffee and come back down a bit ...
EDIT: But I've rummaged views a bit: Seems so your tone here in the forum to be. Well yes, I love those braggarts! You may already realize this is a forum a little the wrong place for your fetish? Well, would you stand before me ... I'd teach you quite a few times unladylike manners ... : P :-): D
Probably you have to sign on your work is not so much.
Need not to reply to this thread here, I will certainly not visit again.
I think that one can think many things, but sometimes out of respect for one's own fallibility, and generally in front of people - no preference how strange you think they have a nature - you should let his frustrations out somewhere else, perhaps.
Take sports, or get yourself a girlfriend.
Sorry guys, could not HOLD BACK
IS OTHERWISE NOT MY TYPE
OFF TOPIC END
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
But in the case, doubtful cases that this was a seriously intentioned Throw -> not every female nickname on the network is hidden behind a wife, but this simplicity seems to be yes men Reserved :-) Do I have often experienced here. Yes, each as he needs. But were your words, right?
That apart, your managerial advice about RED very doubtful and little male (at least your view of female / male), because RED is for the purchase only worth half that, and even less next year, while real estate depending on the situation (hire-purchase etc.) have other possibilities. But wirs can be good about it. That is foolish talk. Please tell me which is few weeks old Red who sold for 50%, I'll buy them off the spot, and if you know more, I'll take more synonymous. Benefit the estate, which she owns, not the man who hires. Sorry, but you're not a woman, but appears to be a milkmaid.
A hall can be synonymous rent, and I'm sure sure there are more applicants than available for your "RED from Hollywood." Again, nonsense. If the hall is the heart of Cologne, Munich, Berlin or Hamburg, yes, but not when it costs $ 100 a month, because then it stands sA the world where a customer goes here. A Red can I send to the customer, not the hall.
For the rest, no one here to laugh at RED users. Differentiation here is the secret watchword. However, the miners of the TS. Reading is the magic word.
Am I a man with several leased warehouses and Equipment at least been here since time and used rarely, but with success. Perhaps you should drink a little less coffee and come back down a bit ... I drink 3 cups exactly s.Tag and think you are an unsuspecting Laber cheek, because nothing of what you write has hand and foot. I just belong only to the 17% of people who take their laptop with the loo. I step on the scene, if I can contribute something constructive or see that they are given the incredibly stupid advice.
EDIT: But I've rummaged a bit of time: Thanks for your interest s.meiner person. I have made myself the trouble and not vice versa.
MB
Antwort von Britta Leuchner:
too stupid - now I'm reingetappt! was still a degree of open and edit've seen stupid way, your reply comment. Well, because with your grad is so amusing.
So:
But in the case, doubtful cases that this was a seriously intentioned Throw -> not every female nickname on the network is hidden behind a wife, but this simplicity seems to be yes men Reserved :-) Do I have often experienced here.
Yes, each as he needs. But were your words, right? Exactly, so I'd be very glad you take time personally ;-)
That apart, your managerial advice about RED very doubtful and little male (at least your view of female / male), because RED is for the purchase only worth half that, and even less next year, while real estate depending on the situation (hire-purchase etc.) have other possibilities. But wirs can be good about it.
That is foolish talk. Please tell me which is few weeks old Red who sold for 50%, I'll buy them off the spot, and if you know more, I'll take more synonymous. Benefit the estate, which she owns, not the man who hires. Sorry, but you're not a woman, but appears to be a milkmaid. You yourself have spoken of banktechnisch seen Equiment worthless. And a bank for you so seems to be a good place to judge things properly. So much for your betreibswirtschaftlichen bearing.
A hall can be synonymous rent, and I'm sure sure there are more applicants than available for your "RED from Hollywood."
Again, nonsense. If the hall is the heart of Cologne, Munich, Berlin or Hamburg, yes, but not when it costs $ 100 a month, because then it stands sA the world where a customer goes here. A Red can I send to the customer, not the hall. Upper total nonsense. Have much fun with your return mail sent Studio Shoot. Then, Munich and Berlin in a listing that relates to rent! Oh man! At the head slap * * - In addition, I had a recording studio sA standing in the world, and there are just so many people here now, we gone forth to Berlin. This was sufficient since it is sitting on it s.wer KIND and especially what it is used.
For the rest, no one here to laugh at RED users. Differentiation here is the secret watchword.
However, the miners of the TS. Reading is the magic word. Exactly, then read all views. RED users there is nothing ...
Am I a man with several leased warehouses and Equipment at least been here since time and used rarely, but with success. Perhaps you should drink a little less coffee and come back down a bit ...
I drink 3 cups exactly s.Tag and think you are an unsuspecting Laber cheek, because nothing of what you write has hand and foot. I just belong only to the 17% of people who take their laptop with the loo. Among the 17% percent I belong synonymous, and na? Only it sounds to me not so rausgepresst like you;-DDDDD
EDIT: But I've rummaged a bit of time:
Thanks for your interest
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Do not take it personally Britta, Horst as synonymous or whatever you say, but I think we both know that you are not a glimmer of cameras even have the money.
MB
Antwort von Britta Leuchner:
Do not take it personally Britta, Horst as synonymous or whatever you say, but I think we both know that you are not a glimmer of cameras even have the money.
MB
Horst That sounds quite nice! How did you come up with Horst? Very creative. How old are you? 25? :-) Well, your signature speaks volumes ...
I take offense at nothing to you, my boy. You're not my collar. But I'd be much obliged if you newcomers, such as the thread starter not with your beschmeißt on the toilet fabrizerten shit.
Thanks
Antwort von joey23:
Boar, Slashcam mitlerweile really goes to me on the bag.
Has anyone a good-Altermnativ Forum recommendation for me? For sowas with my time is really too bad. Can not you unsubscribe via the PN?
Antwort von Gregott:
Oh mannsn ... what I've already broken again by the branch:) Britta I appreciate your statements and synonymous'm sure you have a clue. Oh yes but we should neither age nor sex discrimination, I'm only 22nd .. But many companies have still been maintained in terms of design and during the training and I do not mean a bakery;)
In the future I can only recommend to any attack on forums do not take seriously, my 22 years in fact corresponds to the temper I totally freak when any attacks, and someone Bash ... since I was a by the screen is not possible and b excitement that is precisely what causes someone tries to provoke anyone when he ... should not even be synonymous ... I can well imagine that one when you sit with verbal diarrhea aufm locus is not very good spirits and fälschlicherweisse a sex discrimination;)
Now, because of age, I'd give you something to say, was a programmer forum, the most professional and advanced users s.weit only 13 because I felt with my then 21 before the first time steinalt! It's not about age by sex or anything but talent and business acumen. And I bet No problems so nen credit would get? If not now then when? I am a track record in addition to training junior synonymous and did what! Your business plan will be Handfest and especially realistic and unadorned. The thread here was for me (no more than brainstorming, all is forgiven thee menki for this word ...) and it has brought me a lot! I have much experience to participate and I let myself synonymous here because of the large credit opinions Sausser decided erstmal to ... I'm using my money and buy me time until ne equipment for mortal and make an appointment with Videocation for a consultation. Until then, I programmed my busy next Webseitchen, do here and da mal ne Animation and work my way into the next matter. For I have time! Where we once were synonymous when it comes to credit ... Namely, the people get an early age are much more likely, a friend of me used to be a millionaire ... has devoted his life well lived long and had a heart attack and now has been dismissed. If a Web project on his feet as much free money ... book now but will be out of money ... Bank and the love of his life with which he has interest gefütter, lets him down! Why because he, unlike me with a couple of 50 is too old! Oh, where are we at acquaintance, the producer I know who did what wrong with his statement certainly covers the Red ... I have to say that he did not even know ... he's just leaving the producer and the cameraman Cam in confidence, or because he works from experience always perfect with Arri, he did not appear next informed! His current film synonymous looks really terrific, has ripped me of the socks! In particular, the grain size of the camera was very aesthetic! Here we are once again synonymous with the problem of the digital, because it clearly lacks the characteristics of the film. Since I will not argue about it but now, I want to shoot themselves digitally, but the other view is synonymous justified. Reason is surely synonymous nen have filmed digitally why not all, we do not want any Oscar winners say they have no clue;)
So in the future, please let your feelings outside before. Respond constructively when their doubts s.der competence of a person who does not raise the provocative question, here None knows the other theory I could have a fat sack of his 100 years of the degree 50 Inch CRT is sitting naked in front of ... one should not distinguish synonymous by any factual allegations denn sowas has lost nothing in nem forum (nay, I habs been synonymous since I was forced to do so and was not taken seriously) because it feels a ninth anyway, unless we can Constructive something to help solve a problem!
So thanks again s.alle ... And stay cool: P
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
I do not know where you suspect emotion here between my lines because I have called you a few reasons why you should do that and not that the whole market economy based on known principles, by the way I felt the cleaning woman on the tooth, it could if you ever ran after properly, (not their claims; better Red 50% loss, Hall, blah blah) with something factical documents but has a polemical reply. Therefore, I can only come to the conclusion that only hot air behind it. Ultimately, of course I am no longer her collar, that there was nothing else is clear.
You should know in a forum that we write not only for the current participants, but synonymous for those who want googlen the article, that's why I know here are a few things corrected.
In addition, I must say synonymous with the TS, that only half of which I can believe what you write here. I guess you were just times you do with the importance of a supposedly large sum and then write that you'd decided to take no credit. The thing is as I have already written beginning, you'd get a penny, because you could not comply with Basel II simply. What does your bank adviser, has 0.0 importance, because according to the Basel II credit may only choose someone who knows you do not personally, but a certain sum must be even a body. And is this body MUST outweigh the risk against collateral, in particular because of your age and the non-existent credit history, and then you just completely fall through the cracks.
Take synonymous not personally, because if I want to personally attack someone, I make the umissverständlich.
MB
Antwort von Gregott:
Nehru, I do not personally know me not synonymous. I did not want to do with the importance of the sum. If I want to make myself important to the public with large sum ner I go to Peter Zwegat;) Have already decided against me with the loan! In addition, how to betray times with can make important negative numbers?? May be synonymous that I would not get the credit because you're right, but because it is not synonymous drum went ... I've made my thoughts and my consideration, the air was came yesterday after the talks with the tax set here. Not for nothing because I had found the idea totally brilliant and I would not doubt it, I would not be invoked here synonymous thread!
What has been properly consulted by the way, the contribution of BeDkid ...
Purchase you ne nen EX1 and Sachtler tripod plus 2 light suitcase - with Greenbox ne kleine Mobile Hardware Keyer
When again 10 to 15 k you have left you still buy small ne MoCap unit.
Since then haste about 25 to 30 K spent at play ".
Viewed kucken .. times can only advise. Because those are the totals not grow no gastric ulcers with worry.
Love Greetings
Gregory
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
What has been properly consulted by the way, the contribution of BeDkid ...
Purchase you ne nen EX1 and Sachtler tripod plus 2 light suitcase - with Greenbox ne kleine Mobile Hardware Keyer
It depends. I have several Exen synonymous, but if you give the idea to play with, then the Red is a lot more interesting. From hardware keyer but I hold nothing if you do not just live broadcast ne needs to make. In the post you can edit much more accurately the key.
MB
Antwort von Gregott:
I need not be synonymous to the ne ... do that with Keylight! The small Greenbox wirds not be synonymous with me, since I myself have been quite large ne. (Substance), the Red Yes, I would have been happy to book now wants kucken times if I can generate enough moss to be able to afford it! I do not think so synonymous s.hälfte she immediately loses. They might if the market is somehow swamped with Reds, but when you look at the order from the United States must and everything is very expensive, I would have no problem with synonymous ner Used! Book now but I'm waiting times still prefer a little bit! Hab grad nen date identified in Videocation that lead me then a few devices. I am researching jetz erstmal which devices are worth comparing ... When I Auftragsmäßigen Because of the privilege and the technical limitations must change to ne Red, I am, of course. Have plenty of time and am still young;)
Antwort von Britta Leuchner:
I am researching what equipment jetz erstmal a comparison value are ..
F35 Panavision Genesis, Arri D20, P + S SI-2K, Dalsa, Sony 900R 750p, and F23, Thompson Viper
these are the herrkömmlichen cameras where the Red in the league now plays a part. In part, but probably soon eh no longer relevant.
Otherwise, my apprentices with ner PDW has 700 footage impressed me just shown me time and duly presented. :-D
Below stop something like EX1 and 3, etc., but if you ere a studio with proper auffährst light, low light is probably not your first criterion.
Ps: So, I'm a pretty strong with 24 credit get approved (and synonymous already paid off ;-), but well, those were perhaps other times. Is synonymous already 20 years ago.
However, I remains that have absolutely technology is, in my opinion, absolute nonsense. Those who have earned money every day so can not always rely on the same camera. This is contrary to any application experience.
I think this is all a bit strange slow ... naja ...
And please excuse me if I'm here Gregott become abusive, it's not my style at all, but I can walk people through the anonymous network, and they think everyone can just anyway insult or simply push on the head to vomit. I wish there any other interpersonal skills needed no preference whether one disagrees or thinks someone has no idea. I consider myself mostly because back then, because I myself am learning every day. I do not know this time it is I simply blurted out once, because there are people that always come through with. Thus I am of course even the guilty and find it is not synonymous grad glorious. But who postet through forums all day and then every 2nd He explains that stupid, because something is wrong. Who's really to do that can not pass through every day. Even not at the sound. MeinePosting rate is synonymous with the debate properly gone up and I am annoyed about the time I went here on it than the thing itself
So no offense,'m gonna try to just ignore s.jetzt too.
Lieben Gruß
PS: And thank s.The admins that they have moved into the OFFTOPIC. That was certainly the right decision and apologize synonymous with the admins for it ...
Antwort von PowerMac:
How to have a hall, while you bring your work and enhances self-esteem (because you have to do something to have a studio, just have to keep cleaning, reinkriegen life, etc.), but until you have the back in there, it will take. Just buy yourself a Red, I think is synonymous nonsense. For perhaps 20,000 I would buy synonymous one, but then I would let them constantly and that would be settled anger. Therefore it is financed Red and can even synonymous with it to rotate. You should probably keep s.The rule of thumb that usually pays Rent and purchase one only if one lot and constantly rotating. An editing room should have one. Postproduction is something personal and private. I'll do s.liebsten with me. So a Mac Pro with a few monitors and stuff around the outside - a good idea. The idea of an EX1 with a good tripod I like that. Thus we can now handle many jobs. Each medium customer should be satisfied. For larger projects, you can rent just any hip filming camera, a Red (Epic?), Or synonymous for a feature film production 35mm stuff. Light is usually synonymous borrows only unless the operation is large and the light is constantly used. It is easy to calculate whether renting or purchase more worthwhile.
We are currently producing promotional films for many midsize companies. We hire mostly different cameras. Previously, 16mm, Varicam, DV, HDV, XDCAM EX, 5D here. The budgets are different. Since I can not come with every customer with the Red.
Antwort von Britta Leuchner:
How to have a hall, while you work and brings increases (your self, because you have something to do, have a studio, just have to keep cleaning, reinkriegen life, etc.), but until you have the back in there, it will take.
Yep. That is true, however. Few years.
The budgets are different. Since I can not come with every customer with the Red.
very good argument, I think. For smaller customers it might actually still worth something like ne EX in the house? One saves the costs of hiring permanent ne camera, which is often in use and depend on where the low budget for a longer remains. So in such a situation as its start, I mean, maybe really useful ... He has provided regular small orders.
Antwort von Gregott:
Yes, the EX3 is my favorite art now! Although I once again with the big liebäugle Scarlett. Let's see what the time until I start it brings! So a cam I will have in any case, I am synonymous someone who wants everything in the house (; is ok not always possible) and offers everything, so I would definitely have a full equipment. For it should be synonymous to see the perspective, if I know now that I've always lots of jobs and can pay all installments and can then live well. Why should I hire my cams will ONLY? If I just sit down and times when a little rumrechne I come quickly to a conclusion. I'd say so ne s.Tag equipment costs 3,000 euros more or less of me if I but now films every day, I can just buy the stuff synonymous, with the cameras I acquire not only the camera, but synonymous independence, security and enhancement of creativity. I will do so once synonymous artistic projects of interest to any company, but I would like to implement. For sowas but I can not synonymous borrow a cam easy.
Britta do not get me wrong, I hold the moment, other customers who do not pay me 3000 ¬ für ne cam, not even for the whole clip, I'm grad s.Anfang and doing the things for nen 1000er net. But when one thinks of what I invest time and what else do I come to occupy so nen very high hourly rate and that'll take everything I own this book.
So I am now ready actually already decided to skip the important step to buy a little cam and to build a small studio. If my options then time with the necessary resources will be exhausted me, I can buy synonymous substantiated by the orders of the upcoming new equipment!
Antwort von meawk:
Ehhhhh how cool is because the OT department here, I've only just discovered it right. Yes there are at last exchanged again really meaty arguments.
Good that sowas is not simply deleted, as is customary in many other forums. Think about to publish a book about this OT section with the original texts - which is a bestseller.
Nachmacher had now been warned: Since I'm already on it with this post copyright.
