someone has experience with the DFS-300 of Sony. It has 3 Component inputs. What the Connector? Is it normal YUV analog inputs?
What is your experience with component signals, they have a better quality as SHVS?
What is "affordable" digital cameras have component outputs?
Thank you for a short info Gerhard Alber
Antwort von robbie:
Hi!
yes, component signals always have a better quality than s-vhs.
a cheap camera, a source component has ... I think the best thing you will find, is I think a used BetaSP - kamera ... with optics, you will perhaps be to get 8,000 euros?
please forgive me if I correct a mistake somewhere hab. hab nix long with components ghabt to do more with sdi ...
schöne grüße! robbie
Antwort von Gerhard Alber:
Hi Robbie,
thanks for the quick answer - you know the DFS-300 mixer synonymous? I had considered for conversion of MiniDV Cams Firewire to use components, so that I then synonymous 50m cable length can be bridged. Since when are components cameras no longer use?
Can you give me the type of "BetaSP" describe in more detail? Sometimes you can broadcast on Ebay in the field bargains make :-) Greetings and thanks for the reply Gerhard
Antwort von Markus:
"Gerhard Alber" wrote:
Since when are components cameras no longer use?
They are used even more, but component is still analogue halt. Digital transmissions are based on SDI or even HD-SDI.
As far as I remember, supplies HDV1-(720p-) Camera JVC HD100 a component signal. The successor should probably synonymous done.
Antwort von Pianist:
"Gerhard Alber" wrote:
Can you give me the type of "BetaSP" describe in more detail?
He says the camcorder Sony BVW-200, BVW-300, BVW-400 and Ikegami HL-V55. They have, but not all standard component output, but only CVBS. Component was provided only by retrofitting and was rarely done.
What more interesting for you to be, without cameras are docked recorder, but instead with Camera adapter, so where a thick cable direction image mixer drankommt. As would be especially Ikegami HC-300, HC-340, HC-390 HC-400 and interesting. The should all be with a decent lens at an acceptable price to get his. Then you could be a big synonymous studio viewfinder make it monitor.
You probably want some kind of studio or outdoor transmission operation with multiple cameras to build, where you with the picture mixer "live" cut like?
Matthias
Antwort von Pianist:
"Gerhard Alber" wrote:
thanks for the quick answer - you know the DFS-300 mixer synonymous?
The mixer and DFS-500 DFS-300 is likely yes all synonymous for example 12 to 15 years old. No bad devices. I give you the tip times but that is a whole series of Bildmischern are younger than 10 years and are certainly more able and the synonymous better. For example, the smaller mixing of Grass Valley. If you like it but only about three sources of hard to cut, fade over time to make a name or einzublenden, then go all the fine for that.
The digital effects of the two Sony-mixers but are a little "thin", so you have noted since the age of the parts and that the digital technology was not yet so far was the full quality of the image to maintain.
Matthias
Antwort von Gerhard Alber:
Hello Matthias, Thanks for the detailed answers.
I have already directed a live with 4 cameras, with a Panasonic MX20 Mixer. However, I have FBAS with significant deterioration, SVHS and is not really much better. I have recently directed a picture based on the Panasonic MX70 Component signals and experienced, and was thrilled. They have the transmission synonymous Beamer on YUV activated and a super projected Picture - that's why I just look around.
Do you have me a description of the types of Grass Valley mixer? My budget ends halt at about 1500 .-- EUR for a mixer, because I gnaze pure hobby mäßig do.
Antwort von Pianist:
"Gerhard Alber" wrote:
Do you have me a description of the types of Grass Valley mixer?
At least I have those same wonderful list pretty much all times built image mixer found:
The Dutchman seems to picture a private museum to have mixers.
Now you know for yourself eligible types and descriptions can selectively search. The one or the other device should be for 1,500 EUR or less to get to, and many of them are actually in circulation. But not all of which components to process signals, ie, always clarify the technical data.
Matthias
Antwort von megalutzi:
Hello Gerhard,
I hope you realize that your budget is exhausted quickly, because there are unfortunately, not only with a new mixer is done. In particular, the needed signal components other cables that hold synonymous something that could be expensive because live halt synonymous increasing cable lengths come. Since halt SDI is already present because of 1st digital and 2 , one coax cable. Remember synonymous or the TBC Frame Syncs, all components can have. So for components with multiple cameras, mixers, cables and TBC comes da ne sum hübsche together, for me, I prefer a new car (or similar) would buy, especially if you really only operates as a hobby. Then this is really a very expensive hobby.
Antwort von Markus:
"megalutzi" wrote:
Remember synonymous or the TBC Frame Syncs, all components can have.
Working in the field cameras, picture monitors, and mixers with a common studio clock. You do not need any separate Framesynchronizer more. Larger picture mixers have something not synonymous.
Antwort von megalutzi:
"Mark" wrote:
You do not need any separate Framesynchronizer more. Larger picture mixers have something not synonymous.
I know, but since he has been a MX20 (2inputs) for 4 cameras, it will somewhat synonymous in the direction already have.
But there is me: It makes sense, is a camera to take what by CCU allows camera parameters, studio time, etc. directly in Directing to determine. Otherwise come another cable to the camera to have (eg, studio time). So it is hardly a multicore around.
Antwort von Pianist:
"megalutzi" wrote:
But there is me: It makes sense, is a camera to take what by CCU allows camera parameters, studio time, etc. directly in Directing to determine. Otherwise come another cable to the camera to have (eg, studio time). So it is hardly a multicore around.
That's why I have him with the cameras output adapter instead Dockrecorder recommended. Also, the long strip and the CCUs in quantities likely to get, because the second hand market is full of.
Matthias
Antwort von Gerhard Alber:
Hi,
Thanks again for the many replies.
But so far nobody has me, an experience report on the DFS-300 type. I have the device of a Swiss Dealers angboten get, unfortunately, sold the synonymous only in the order next ...
Bin mal gespannt, whether I cameras with CCU and without DOCK-Recorder on Ebay to find ...
Greetings and thanks s.alle parties
Antwort von Pianist:
"Gerhard Alber" wrote:
But so far nobody has me, an experience report on the DFS-300 type.
I have. More than ten years I have with this device often has it worked and everything works. For those days particularly attractive was the built-in color correction, but you'll need less. So if the unit with everything in order, you can live the simple applications (where a mixed-level ranges) in any case use.
Matthias
Antwort von Gerhard Alber:
Hello Matthias,
thanks for the info. Given your experience with Broadcasting / Live Director I would be glad of a tip to get you, as I a better picture can be projected.
I live events on transfer Beamer on screens, and make it a live recording on DVD.
Below, I have equipment in use:
Cameras: 2 x SonyVX2100 (on stands) 1 x SonyTRV80 (with shoulder stand) 1 x Sony SonyTRV2200 on a swivel head (HVR 500) for fixing Travers
mixer: 1 x Panasonic WJ-AVE555 (Identical MX20) 1 x SonySB3000 6x6 crossbar 1 x Kramer VM10YC
1 x SonyDSC1024G (conversion of the PC signal to Y / C) 1 x TBC of ED to stabilize the PC signal
Open 2nd Mixer for a hide and writings of Powerpoint slides from a subtitle. The insertion must have Luminazkeying go.
So far I have everything with FBAS wired (up to 30m Camera) and the projector on either "favorable" CVBS / VGA Converter connected or directly via FBAS.
Is the change to SVHS (Cable expensive) or should I but try to go on components?
Antwort von Pianist:
"Gerhard Alber" wrote:
Is the change to SVHS (Cable expensive) or should I try to go to constituents?
Let us consider this: One Y / C transmission (if possible) already offers a significantly better quality than composite. From Y / C (S-Video) to YUV (component) is then the increase is no longer quite so large. But now you do not tell what video projectors (and what type of projection distance for the size) are used. Presumably, there lurks the vulnerability. Incidentally, I know most of your devices are not, so I am not so sure if there is a different wiring is possible. You can, incidentally synonymous two parallel BNC cables for Y / C use, there is little whips synonymous adapter of this S-Video to BNC connectors. The only important thing is that both cable exactly the same length.
Matthias
Antwort von robbie:
Maybe you should be synonymous to a new mixer to invest, such as the Edirol V4. As far as I can remember working the Panasonic mixer with internal VHS-only "resolution", ie 320x240. At least for the wipe effects, I can pretty well imagine the Lumi-Key will not be otherwise. If you still ne Powerpoit presentation reinschickst, then nothing since gscheites get out more. I personally have 2 of the V4 - mixers and even more about Composite a fine signal. Now in an SD components - mixer investing pays not enough, I think. In one to two years are now quite expensive HD solutions synonymous already be a lot more affordable. And HD-SDI is always synonymous cheaper ... Schöne Grüße, Robbie
Antwort von Gerhard Alber:
As far as I can remember working the Panasonic mixer with internal VHS-only "resolution", ie 320x240. Schöne Grüße, Robbie
Hi Robbie,
I've read, but unfortunately found nothing. Do you know a URL or do you have documents, such as where you can read?
I have the Edirol V4 times viewed. Something strange is the arrangement of the A / B track, in my opinion is due to the installation, a quick switching between cameras badly possible. What is your experience? Does the Edirol V4 a quad-split output, on which all 4 inputs on one monitor can watch? Has the V4 4xSHVS inputs?
Thank you for a short info
Antwort von robbie:
Hi!
infos for the resolution of 320x240 I have a colleague of the times this device has analyzed or so ...
for v4: yes, the arrangement is for a user panasonic - Mixer quite unusual. but one gets used to it. You can use the t-bar synonymous horizontally so that you can legally visually between a and b insipid.
the functions of the part, as I said before, far beyond those of a panasonic - Mixer.
to the inputs: 4x composite, SVHS them 2x. outputs: 2x master composite, 1x monitor menu & composite, 1x SVHS.
no multiplexer is None indoors. Get a müsstet you buy, the synonymous simultaneously durchschleift. costs so s.die 350 - 400 euro.
schöne grüße robbie
Antwort von Babapapa:
As an alternative there is still the Datavideo SE500 to, for example, under infos
Look at the Indigo here: http://www.canopus.com/products/Indigo/index.php
The scaling is synonymous for the beamer.
Antwort von thos-berlin:
Hello,
I fear that you yourself in the given budget s.Komponentensignale the idea out of your head should beat. For the price of 1500, - you will not even have a camera full zusammenbekommen ...
Since I'm synonymous amateur, I did not have too many similarities. But: I have an elderly live-Directing with the JVC KM 600 and three SonyKamears seen. They were by YC s.den mixer connected. The Bildquallität I felt as good. Problem: The cameras were on an RCU s.den mixer connected. So the whole "building" in the longer cables with the corresponding camera cables cut.
Maybe you have an opportunity, you borrow some equipment to make an acquisition (camera moves with RCU and matching long cables can be found but not as often so cheap!) Just cost and benefit estimate.
Try Simply better cable (50m drums for a few euros to rent). Maybe you better help. Second idea: transfer via Firewire with appropriate repeaters. Before the mixer then the digital / analog converter.
Oh, I just see that the contribution originating from the very Frebruar is. Times would be interesting to know which solution is the original poster has entschiedn.
Antwort von Gerhard Alber:
Hi,
I will stay with SVHS (YC) and do not climb on to YUV. Also of a DFS-300, I was extremely discouraged, because of the Age often repairs are necessary.
I buy my (most likely) a SE-500 of video data. What is the device? Would be great if a short report could be posted ....
The Indigo mixer would be exactly the right thing - unfortunately, I have for my No hobby EUR 10,000 or more (I've found no price) left.
Thank you for your answers
Antwort von Markus:
"Gerhard Alber" wrote:
... SE-500 of video data. What is the device?
Yes, I had already done so. The picture quality is amazing for the price well synonymous and the haptics of the control knobs and Lighting to find their success. The output of a tally signal is also possible (something Bastel work or the video adapter of Data to buy). The fascia can I find to hakelig, which is not so tough cuts next stört.
To audio mixer, I can say nothing. Since unbalanced connections are available, was always a separate audio mixer here.
