Frage von schlue:
I do mostly news coverage and am about to move to a new camera system - DVCPRO (eg JVC DV-5100) or PRO-HD (eg JVC GY-100 or SonyHVR-A1E) I have in mind.
Which system would you prefer (currently I think TV stations compared with DVCPRO) still questioning the other hand, PRO-HD does not synonymous.
JVC can compete technically with Sony quality at all?
Thank you for your answer!
Antwort von wolfgang:
The JVC HD101 shoots in PRO-HD with 720p, or alternatively, synonymous in DV-avi.
From the Page you have here with the 101er definitely more open to alternatives.
Perhaps you can help my review here:
http://videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?threadid=1457&boardid=36&styleid=6
Antwort von Marco:
I know your editors yes, but not when there is something for which I would NOT use a progressive format, then it would be up to date reports!
Progressive material, such as it is of the HD100, has its own character image, the AB-environment may be perceived as strange. While remaining with the HD100, just shoot in DV format, but then the actual status of the camera would be wasted.
Then I would for your purpose, consider the GY-DV 5100 (the attack but is not a DVCPro, but it's DV).
Marco
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
Or DVCPRO DVC PRO 50 was not a developed system of Panasonic, or am I mistaken?
I only know the JVC DV 5000 (warsch. the predecessor of 5100) is "the"
Shoulder-mounted camera next to the old predecessor DV 500 for news reportage and film-maker teams. She has even 3x 1 / 2 "IT CCD chips, a variety of s.Wechselobjektiven Fuji or Canon zb (Of dreams every XL 2, ok another class)
Notes with "Night program on LoLux (gain of 36 DB) is still in darkest night, where most of the others, only noise,
and is flexible with DV and Mini DV cassettes, even taking into the same Kasettenfach, just a dream - for me as a private citizen priceless.
One must, of course, the models in the same class Compare
I can not synonymous for instance, the JVC DV 5100 with the PDW models of Sonywith XD-CAM
Format (very similar to already available Blue Ray recording) for ¬ 30,000 compared with it. The question is how much is your budget?
One can already synonymous with a SonyVX produce material for broadcast in 2100, sometimes synonymous decide the eye of the filmmaker on the quality of the contribution
And not always the camera.
How zb. only the zoom setting, then start with the recording. Because too often change the zoom when shooting looks awkward, and for the audience is not particularly pleasant or much else.
January
Antwort von wolfgang:
I know your editors yes, but not when there is something for which I would NOT use a progressive format, then it would be up to date reports!
Progressive material, such as it is of the HD100, has its own character image, the AB-environment may be perceived as strange. While remaining with the HD100, just shoot in DV format, but then the actual status of the camera would be wasted.
Then I would for your purpose, consider the GY-DV 5100 (the attack but is not a DVCPro, but it's DV).
Marco But with virtually the same price of the DV 5100 and the HD101 is synonymous not particularly logical. Even if you shoot with the HD101 then only in DV50i. I still come up with the possible variations that one can truly 16:9 - ok, in a 4-3 World (broadcast) nor an issue. Or that one could convert with the HD101er to DV25p (unfortunately no DV50p if I have it right times).
I know the DV 5100 too little - which provides for benefits, compared with the HD101?
Antwort von Marco:
This is not a question of price, but these are simply different cameras for different purposes. The camera is here, yes, primarily for the AB-used area. Because I would not resort to a camera, whose merits - HD and 25p - can just be there, not played.
The DV 5100 is against such as a Halbzollchip (and 400% Dynamics!) And, therefore, of offering a greater flexibility in managing large Kontrastumfängen and synonymous of a much bigger lens selection.
Marco
Antwort von GhostDog:
One can already synonymous with a SonyVX produce material for broadcast in 2100, sometimes synonymous decide the eye of the filmmaker on the quality of the contribution
And not always the camera.
January That you do not mean in all seriousness, the one a cameraman for VX 2100 or PD 170 reasonable enough for a film?
Thomas
Antwort von jens:
That you do not mean in all seriousness, the one a cameraman for VX 2100 or PD 170 reasonable enough for a film?
For a Sendebeitrag?
Why not ...?
Jens
Antwort von Jan:
Hello you,
is clear that not Fersehfilme with a SonyPD 170 shall be rotated,
But for instance, the one or the other report. will have on traffic accidents sometimes with sowas rotated (I know because synonymous someone who sells his reports s.TV Channel)
This is not a professional camera with a DV camera is satisfied the following report shows
Is a little long, but not for professionals (Like me) quite instructive ....
In the last issue of Film & TV cameraman, I have written down the experiences working with a PD150, which I would like to interested colleagues are not withheld. The article has received many favorable and unfavorable reactions. That you can do with this Camera Type synonymous good pictures, has just in the Inselfimern
Roland Wagner, with "Black Diamond" shows. But there is always a question on its head, which is behind the viewfinder.
The film, at issue here, incidentally, runs s.Mittwoch the 4th December at 15.15 clock in 3 satellite in the series "From another point of view."
Enjoy reading and watching!
Hans Albrecht Lusznat
www.lusznat.de
Never again DV
A review of a recent disappointing trial
There are always some people say that, that you get with a DV camera, the other images, which can not be captured with a large camera, and when I use the models and their enthusiastic words, listen, then I dream of pictures that I oh-so - would like to do. And out again I have successfully used small cameras to get some images that have built screwed, my monitors bound in the belly and SP Recorder in rucksacks on their backs and dragged images made using the other about their genesis to the have smashed his head. That is now 10 years ago and we have developed, the cameras synonymous.
Can we really with the DV cameras, the better, the closer to make the pack more appropriate images, or is all this talk about only an embellishment with less use of resources to maximize value creation?
For a pilgrimage to Lourdes I was against better knowledge - the last negative experiences were forgotten too quickly - to a complete DV persuaded production. The group of pilgrims with many wheelchair was traveling in a crowded bus, 43 people filled every seat, a narrow aisle of 50 cm, narrow, trips ... Then little camera, a solution and was promised significant relief. Why should we make it unnecessarily difficult. With director Thomas Koerner, and soundwoman Ellena Staroske I moved so easily loaded on to Lourdes inwardly hoping that might fulfill the dream of better pictures are wonderful.
To get the best possible quality, we had opted for a SonyPD 150 DVCAM Camera, which in addition to the improved recording quality synonymous 2 Canon XLR audio inputs. Fummelkram with the pedestal, and Jack, as it exists for the DXC1000der camera, I had s.ausgeschlossen of beginning. To s.der lightweight camera does not have an equally heavy hanging coiled cable to the mixer, I have produced a tone-diversity Sennheiser EK3041 wireless connection. Also in the tripod, I had paid to the quality and insisted on heavier equipment, because the DV Tripods twist when swiveling like the legs and are otherwise a shaky affair. The decision for the Sachtler Video 18P - it was present at the production company - was a fatal mistake, because the weight balance can not be switched off completely and we must always force at Vertikalschwenks
, afford to act contrary to the pen and hold the camera in the final position.
The upshot of all my experiences like Vorneweg: no more computer! And because we endured the agony quickly forget they are here to remind you all once together, the "I" of tomorrow, recommended for reading before they can possibly breitschlagen once used such a camera.
We wanted to accompany a group in their everyday experiences in an exceptional situation. There must be observed at all times and be prepared to quickly and unobtrusively. Conspicuous is the small camera, perhaps even because of the size, but
Antwort von Marco:
It might have with a time trying to CORRECT DV Camera.
Marco
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
About his qualifications can not argue: eg. first camera in the documentary film "The Sunset" Hitler's last days, also one of the Steadicam experts in Germany.
You mean so direction JVC DV 5100? So many gibts because I do not think the synonymous Dv record high and are, indeed, most is absorbed with the target Digi Betacam or DVCPRO / 50.
January
Antwort von GhostDog:
If someone has a PD150 used for a very special and then use the DV format flat massacred in a sentence, whose qualifications for such statements then I have put in doubt, just no preference who he is.
You can not on any of the PD150 DV cameras include (but is exactly the claim in the article).
Appropriately enough, has not a single point of criticism, which is mounted in the article, something to do with DV. This is all about the handling of the camera, but when Conclusion follows then: "Never again DV!" This is really complete nonsense.
And they have discovered in my eyes, synonymous plenty unprofessional, not all of these shortcomings of the camera before turning the key in a trial. I know of no camera man, who would not test one for him new Camera erstmal very hard before he committed to a mission.
A Camera in the format, the GY-DV5000 to DV5100's still the lowest level class for the truly professional DV - and DVCPro cameras (DVCPro is basically nothing other than IR). There is significantly improved 2/3-Inch-Modelle in this team.
Marco
Antwort von jens:
That you do not mean in all seriousness, the one a cameraman for VX 2100 or PD 170 reasonable enough for a film?
Thomas What occurred to me: to improve myself, but if I remember rightly, has taken the Wim Wenders' Buena Vista Social Club "with a VX2000. Okay, there was certainly made a lot more in the post, apart from Fazen - and yet
a film with 'ner VX2000.
Let me, however, synonymous like to improve :-)
Jens
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
Mark you're right, but pro's are artists and sometimes even a bit self-willed.
His favorite instruments to tell me, for example, almost nothing:
AATON XTR Prod (16 / Super 16) which I've never heard. Or DVW 790 (I tip mal ne Sony) Digi Betacam.
Well on his equipment, he probably knows his way around, and knows every button or function.
January
