Infoseite // Decision problem: Manfrotto 936 or 528 + Manfrotto 701HDV Cullmann



Frage von stundex:


I stand before the decision level with a new tripod need to.
And have now for my particular problem yet noAntwort found in the forum.
About Bilora I have heard very mixed reviews, but with most of them are convinced. My only problem is I do not want to invest in something I ersezen soon again be because it is not zukunfstauglich. For example, the disturbing my Manfrotto 65mm Half Bowl, which is not is standartd.
Does anyone have experience with the Cullmann magnesite than 528 video tripod? Here I could then build on it synonymous my request the head of 701er Manfrotto. This card includes the synonymous waive Niveliermöglichkeit. Is it stable enough without Doppeklohr and spider? I use a "pimped" Canon 550D, with rails, follow focus, matte box and sometimes a slider. Ranging in weight from the 701 HDV.
If containing synonymous beyond the hobby Even, as I already synonymous with my scrap Hamma tripod regularly rotate image films for industrial customers.

Is it worth the additional investment of not quite 100 ¬ 120 ¬ compared to the Manfrotto 936?

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Antwort von domain:

In contrast to photography is on video, the total horizontal alignment of the head of a circular bubble extremely important and goes beyond the awkward longitudinal adjustments of the tripod legs only cumbersome and time consuming to himself. In such a solution, I would not let me do first.
At my former 701-head, the vertical pivoting worked properly only after repeated on-and down movement. But after a few minutes the head was again "is caked" and started with the usual initial jolt.
Do not forget that the Manfrotto 936 in addition to its stability synonymous makes a much more professional impression down as a relatively lightweight tripod with three Solobeinchen.

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Antwort von stundex:

This can not be overcame easily is thus directly even a knockout blow in the video?

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Antwort von musicmze:

I would just engage with. If the head of the half shell can be separated, so that you can screw on Slider's tripod and the tripod head to the slider carriage (I make it up to now always) with the Velbon 7000 and that with good success. Only the Velbon head is just too shaky.

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Antwort von stundex:

as far as I am aware you can not solve the Manfrotto head of the shell, but take out only as a whole.

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Antwort von Auf Achse:

The bowl is screwed with the Manfrotto four screws with your head. I got it but never scaled down, but these are clearly the mounting screws.

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Antwort von stundex:

Ah Ok. Because I once asked a Cullmann because of its Alpha 9000, which is really a Bilora in silver as far as I can tell. EMAND and synonymous here in the forum had mentioned this before. And the technical support I was told it could be removed only as a whole.

but if it's true that you can remove the head of the half shell. Could I make now about the Manfrotto head on it or is not compatible with the? Because so I could then antscheiden for Manfrotto and replace if necessary at some point simply beheads, since the legs should be computationally stable.

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Antwort von domain:

The half-cup of Bilora-head with the 4 Allen screws must stay course on it, because it is part of the horizontal fluid mechanism. The head itself is fairly long with a screw attached s.Tripod, which is neither a 1 / 4 "or 3 / 8" screw.


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Antwort von stundex:

"Domain" wrote: A Glider rail is directly attached to the fuselage stand certainly not a problem, a little like the original head on the rail.

what exactly do you mean with "a little like the original head on the rail"? Not understand the phrase level.

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Antwort von domain:

Because nogängige nut can screw on it from my Kramkiste. No idea what that is possibly a measure, though already metric, but with an uncommon pitch.

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Antwort von stundex:

@ Domain: You seem with the Bilora to have experience. So shon the better choice if I understand this so? ? I just fear that I would then buy a rather quick way, complete new setup, as others have already spoken against the synonymous the loss at the time Bilora fast breaks.
I read almost exclusively dependent on the good tripod, but still hesitate because it's quite cheap and many synonymous always think that the tripod will not save much. In any case schonmal Thank you for your contributions.

One probably are other opinions out there?

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Antwort von domain:

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Weils mich jetzt selber interessiert hat, habe ich mal die Halbschale abgeschraubt. Nun sieht man direkt die Fluidpatrone, die ihrerseits wieder with einer mittigen Imbusschraube befestigt ist. Also noChance auf ein normales Stativgewinde.
Sollte sich der Kopf beim Gebrauch nicht wesentlich verschlechtern, dann kann ich with Sicherheit sagen, dass die Dämpfung besser als selbst beim 501-Manfrotto-Kopf ist, vom 701 ganz zu schweigen.
Kann man kaufen.

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Antwort von Räuber:

Hi, I own the Manfrotto 936 for 18 months of use will, replace it now but by the combination Manfrotto 504/546BK.

Why?

Now, for the first "steps" the Manfrotto is ok, but with the time increasing the claims which can not fulfill it. The NX5 on top the whole thing is not so stable, wobble and twists. The head is ok, can still move well, damping is still working. But sometimes I get a little sticky substance s.den fingers, as does probably the fluid damping slowly looking a way out.

As I said, ok for a start. Only if you spend a substantial sum for camera and equipment, the purchase of Bilora from my (current) view, save s.falschen end, one buys it at some time, the increased demands adapted, new Tripod.

I would not buy again.

Greetings of the Baltic Sea,
Stefan

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Antwort von stundex:

@ Domain: I wanted to be synonymous use the same adapter plate anywhere. So as synonymous to the Glider and stand on my shoulder or my Steadycam. Do you know if there's to buy the adapter for the quick release plate synonymous individually? Because so far I have only found the adapter card itself. So I would just not always change the sheets if I want to put my camera of an equipment to the other.

Believe such an adapter, as there are eg Manfroto for the plate of the 701HDV. http://www.wexcameras.de/webcontent/product_images/large/156/1007292.jpg

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Antwort von stundex:

"Robbers" wrote: Manfrotto Combi 504/546BK

@ Bandit: Sure that would be better, but I can not spend as much degree. But if thou now had 18 months in use you can tell me sgen determines how the situation is. I've just seen a YouTube video of Biora and there it was horrible. But if after 18 months of the shooting has not come out then probably never. Can you get smooth pans with the added Tripod? And what do you think of my other way of Cullman + Manfrotto?

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Antwort von Auf Achse:

The adapter is a separate spare part. I have the same reason as you already bought one.

I have the Manfrotto for almost a year now with an XH-A1 and several small cameras. The tripod is sufficiently robust and stable, the pan succeed very satisfactory. Only his head I want a little more specific -> will be called the XH-A1 that with the design speed of play, especially noticeable in the horizontal pivot mechanism at high zoom factor. But not dramatic, I should mention the sake of completeness.
My advice: The Manfrotto is a very good, usable tripod with an incredible price / performance ratio and ideal for advanced synonymous. If at some point you want to improve next and the Money you can access to better / more expensive. Since I would but not the only "small step" to make Manfrotto, but equal to or Sachtler Vinten.

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Antwort von domain:

"Auf Achse" wrote:
Since I would but not the only "small step" to make Manfrotto, but equal to or Sachtler Vinten.


Exactly, though, for already.
The Sachtler CF 150 with the DV 8 heads together to 3300th ¬ - stands synonymous to me for some time in the eye ;-)

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Antwort von stundex:

Can I put it on now because on it the Bilora a Manfrotto adapter? (Or possibly synonymous adapter of other brands) View of right now silly, but I could at least everywhere have the same adapter plates. Or would something now bein too much influence the stability?

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Antwort von carstenkurz:

The cheap useful as the Manfrotto tripods are nunmal noSystemstative. Since one can not expect that you can go there just like that with other system components. With the Manfrotto have to be as happy as it gets. The Cullmann 9000 seems to have a trapezoidal plate. However, looks to me for photos synonymous not look so whether it is compatible with other plates. And what is good for the head or the attenuation of the Cullmann head, I do not synonymous, which seems at least in contrast to the base to be built up completely different than the Manfrotto head.

Who Stands system will need to spend more money holding. The Manfrotto is a tripod with a great price / performance ratio, but it's still a beginner and nunmal tripod. Below you should not do it for video.


- Carsten

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Antwort von Räuber:

Hello, other sheets do not fit, have nogefunden at least so far. But can convert pretty easy, I've put on it the Giottos Quick Release Plate GTMH631 unit that is in my opinion much better than that of Manfrotto. There are then to buy the corresponding exchange plates.

And yes, you can hammer out with the Manfrotto good pans, for that is that is not solely responsible for the tripod ;-).

And as has been noted here many times, it's really for his money was decent!

Greetings,
Stefan

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Antwort von stundex:

That's what I mean yes it. Simply a unit on the head draufzuschrauben addition. Get this now do so with the synonymous Cullmann Alpha 9000 for which I've made my decision ultimately. The hope is the right one, not that I wanted to share must go back to the Manfrotto.

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Antwort von domain:

Meinerseel,
are you about all things so hesitant? Since you have so directly sleepless nights have about possible bad investment of max. ¬ 120 -
From one you can go out sometimes but in principle: there are noSchnäppchen when something is cheap, then synonymous little worth.

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