Infoseite // Decoupling of the microphone holder



Frage von Papa Peter:


Hi,

I would like for my DVX100 an additional microphone (eg Sennheiser Me66), but have no way of fishing, etc. to use. Question: Is the decoupling of the DVX-microphone holder to make the body sound-sensitive Me66 directly s.der camera to use?

Thank you for answers!

Gruß, Peter

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Antwort von bumsbomber:

Nope.

I use my ME66 but in the micro-holder of the DVX100 and am just very careful, the Micro does not mistakenly touching. About the mic, I NEN Schaumstoffpräser and about another Kurzfellmäntelschen. The results are very good!

Since the ME66 is unfortunately too long to Weitestwinkel in the camera just yet to soar into the Picture, if you think it is normal in the micro-stops, I am still a little back (of the micro-holder is arranged so then the first sound of the microphone openings ) and even then squeeze the rear end of the Schaumstoffpräsers with purity. That helps a little synonymous with the decoupling of Camera and Mic.

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Antwort von Debonnaire:

"Anonymous" wrote: Nope.

I use my ME66 but in the micro-holder of the DVX100 and am just very careful, the Micro does not mistakenly touching. About the mic, I NEN Schaumstoffpräser and about another Kurzfellmäntelschen. The results are very good!

Since the ME66 is unfortunately too long to Weitestwinkel in the camera just yet to soar into the Picture, if you think it is normal in the micro-stops, I am still a little back (of the micro-holder is arranged so then the first sound of the microphone openings ) and even then squeeze the rear end of the Schaumstoffpräsers with purity. That helps a little synonymous with the decoupling of Camera and Mic.


Damn, once again kicked out. This was of me.

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Antwort von Papa Peter:

Hi,

thanks for the info! Are there more suitable products that are similar in sound quality make? Did someone experience?

Gruß, Peter

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Papa Peter" wrote: Are there more suitable products that are similar in sound quality make? Did someone experience? R
For a small camera, you need to get s.sich no ME66, also has a camera microphone is not that a high level of directional effects. Instead of a lobe extends as a super cardioid synonymous. You're sure as synonymous with a Rode Videomic (Rycote Softie drüber!) Well served.

A camera microphone is not a single yes-speaking people, but the general atmosphere.

Matthias

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Antwort von Debonnaire:

"Pianist" wrote: For a small camera, you need to get s.sich no ME66,
The Panny DVX100 is anything but a "small camera", synonymous if it is a relatively "small" camera is. From the quality and performance since the DVX100 is a handy professional cameras.

"Pianist" wrote: A camera microphone is not a single yes-speaking people, but the general atmosphere.
Wrong! If you stop, the circumstances of her, only ONE Micro operate, then wilt thou that it is of best quality! And there's really ME66 Hammer!

Get here just do not scrap aufschwatzen Hama, dad Peter, if you anyway what Rich really consider!

And the greater the directivity, the more vote recorded picture and sound together. Pros, the more the effect of straight forward, the less (Camera-) random noise, you have potentially on the tape.

Does it work?

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Debonnaire" wrote: From the quality and performance since the DVX100 is a handy professional cameras.
Please excuse times - you understand what a "professional camera"? I have just times compatriots, what is this camera, because I can not deal with small cameras. And there is clearly a small camera for around 3,600 EUR. But yes you get not even a decent tripod.

Certainly a good device for ambitious amateur filmmakers, there certainly synonymous priced in the upper part, and there may be a sensible course synonymous Microphone drauf. The Ursprungsfrager but thinks that the ME66 with K6 is too long, so it was probably shorter needs. Maybe he tells us, what he really wants to include and in what situations. Wide directivity does not have good car. Look at times, the diagram of a shotgun closely.

BTW: The ME66 as a "hammer" to describe, is now synonymous a little exaggerated. You've probably because no real comparisons ... :-)

Matthias

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Antwort von Schleichmichel:

^ ^ ^ ^ This time apart is ...:

"Debonnaire" wrote: And the greater the directivity, the more vote recorded picture and sound together. Pros, the more the effect of straight forward, the less (Camera-) random noise, you have potentially on the tape.

... a statement that you can not bring. It still depends on Tonassistenten / meister / angler from (and the joint work with the rest of the crew s.einem coherent Project) whether Picture and Sound fit together. The choice of weapons contributes very crucial to this. A Microphone with high directivity can (no preference on how to decrease) mismatching results ... for the object is not suitable. A cardioid or super cardioid would be for one or the other scenario better suited than a thin leg.

And the camera-noise ... You talk of high-end microphones (which are not) and want the thing to peg the Camera? Since when is it the direction from which the picture is taken at the same time synonymous the right direction from which the sound is recorded?

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Antwort von Debonnaire:

"Surreptitious Michel" wrote: Since when is it the direction from which the picture is taken at the same time synonymous the right direction from which the sound is recorded?
Since dad Peter, in his question, we all said that he had "no option, an Angel, etc. to use" has Eumel you! Und nen "Tonassistenten / meister / angler" he has NOT available! Reading and thinking are not synonymous prohibited Schleichi, ok?

So if you're alone, then the likelihood is that, where your camera draufhältst synonymous is what the Picture tonmässig fit, but quite big and you have simply no choice, in such a trap! So good on the Mic and Cam Cam direction incoming object hold. Done!

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Debonnaire" wrote: Since dad Peter, in his question, we all said that he had "no option, an Angel, etc. to use" has Eumel you!
Can you hear immediately on this harmless Mitsch Reiber as "Eumel" to describe yourself?

Matthias

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Antwort von Debonnaire:

"Pianist" wrote: Can you hear immediately on this harmless Mitsch Reiber as "Eumel" to describe yourself?

Nope. - Next question?

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Debonnaire" wrote: Nope. - Next question?
Then I ignore you s.sofort. Your contributions are always of dubious quality. If you have this strange choice of words is added, it is certainly not a loss, you will no longer be read.

Matthias

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Antwort von Debonnaire:

"Pianist" wrote: Then I ignore you s.sofort.

NEIIIN, please DO NOT ignore pianist! BIIITTE not! I nenn surreptitious synonymous Michel niiieee again "Eumel" if you do not igonierst me! Are we friends ?????

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Antwort von Papa Peter:

* sigh * Now to the question with no real quarrel brother plotting, but many thanks for the info!

Best Regards, Peter Papa

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Antwort von Axel:

"Pianist" wrote: Please excuse times - you understand what a "professional camera"? I have just times compatriots, what is this camera, because I s.sich not deal with small cameras. And there is clearly a small camera for around 3,600 EUR. But yes you get not even a decent tripod.

Certainly a good device for ambitious amateur filmmaker ...


The DVX100 was one of the most successful movies of last year, a film that through its rental 4,000,000 paying spectators refurbished (source). But there is perhaps a harmless expression: Prosumercam.

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Antwort von Markus:

"Papa Peter" wrote: * sigh * Now to the question with no real quarrel brother plotting, but many thanks for the info!
No worries Peter, there have been just the two right place for the moment ...
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Antwort von Pianist:

"Axel" wrote: The DVX100 was one of the most successful movies of last year, a film that through its rental 4,000,000 paying spectators refurbished (source). But there is perhaps a harmless expression: Prosumercam.
The film was not because of the camera is a success, the film would be synonymous successful if it with a pinhole camera had been rotated.

Matthias

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Pianist" wrote: The film was not because of the camera is a success
This should almost apply to any movie, no preference whether "summer fairy tale" or "Star Wars" - yes it was here to their suitability for professional applications. The Camera is only a tool in the hands of a more or less capable cameraman, and because of the DVX100 with a whole series of films were rotated (to say nothing of their popularity in the TV News section), it seems to be more capable than some of a "small camera for amateur filmmakers' confidence ;-)

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von Login_vergessen:

So, wants synonymous times my mustard to give:

Related Links: There may indeed be synonymous the ME64 interesting. Although this is a cardioid pickup pattern, but it is of the much shorter length.
I put my DVX100 in the news section and got this combination for me synonymous already considered, but not yet implemented.

@ Pianist: Whether the DVX100 is a Proficam or not, but probably depends on the use purpose. As a "professional" I'm now synonymous times of the economic view of things subject. Of course I can try synonymous, with a EUR 100,000 Cam a news contribution to rotate. Then I would be with a 10-man crew and on the contribution would be about 3 days after the event in the editorial ... that would be very "Professional" ...
If I were an airline planned to offer Norfriesischen Islands, I buy but do not synonymous Airbus (Profi-plane), but rather have a Cessna (aircraft hobby), or ...?

Greeting

Stefan

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Login_vergessen" wrote: As a "professional" I'm now synonymous times of the economic view of things subject.
This includes, but not only the purchase price, but synonymous, the usability and operational safety. And then cut the small cameras now times very poorly. What use you a cheap camera, if you thus perhaps lose a long-term contracting?

From my point of view are small cameras (as was a Bolex with Federnwerk) only as a second camera that is you put s.einem car, under a locomotive or the like fastened. Or to turn to in situations where a man with great camera work, for example, disguised as a tourist in countries without press freedom.

Even a small local stations can safely use small technology, but the gap between small and large cameras will always remain, in the interest of the Manufacturer. Alone, the absence of a reasonable objective so restricts the usability significantly, even if the image converters are quite good.

Matthias

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Antwort von Gummi:

"Pianist" wrote: "Login_vergessen" wrote: As a "professional" I'm now synonymous times of the economic view of things subject.
This includes, but not only the purchase price, but synonymous, the usability and operational safety. And then cut the small cameras now times very poorly. What use you a cheap camera, if you thus perhaps lose a long-term contracting?



Well, I'm with the operational safety and the handling of my DVX very satisfied. My "Client" means any TV channel. My contributions are in the news broadcasts and magazines, of the WDR-Local Time "on" Star TV "to the" Tagesschau ". The Prices, the transmitter for NIF's pay is the purchase of a "professional camera" is really not the case. The WDR makes his editors even partially with the "SonyVX2100" around, with some really nasty results - will still be sent ... synonymous when I run now as a bank and a credit to me for a "professional camera" recording, which the sender would still worse, but cheaper because of our own material. Since I can have whatever s.Lens.
Would I, for example, very expensive commercial productions or other produce, I would of course use the appropriate equipment.
I need a tool, still synonymous with the 15 minutes before service begins a 30-second can be produced - otherwise my client are gone ...
The disadvantages, which a small camera with brings me to the part must simply accept purchase, partly by special techniques to compensate.

Again on the theme creator: Were the ME64 in?

Greeting

Stefan

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Anonymous" wrote: The Prices, the transmitter for NIF's pay is the purchase of a "professional camera" is really not the case.
If you, as a "blue-cameraman" are on, then the small camera's probably a good solution for you, since you always in the trunk can hold. Then again so that what I said in this context always write: Small cameras are good for applications where a large camera is not available.

I just always think only s.durchgestaltete image films and quite forget that people are so synonymous that the accidents on the highway or the fire brigade when deleting filming.

Matthias

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Antwort von Papa Peter:

Hi,

hmm, Stefan, the Me64 hab 'I have already considered synonymous, but have concerns about the recording of focus, zoom and noise drive with a kidney is concerned. The I particularly want to hide. But as I said, my main concerns about the Me66 is the pairing of sound body, and when the expected Me64 not so very different, right? For "length" I can find a solution as it suggests Debonnaire imagine. Also, it helps nothing, I will try (I think synonymous finally synonymous only the statistics that I've forged myself ...).

Best Regards, Peter

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Papa Peter" wrote: hmm, Stefan, the Me64 hab 'I have already considered synonymous, but have concerns about the recording of focus, zoom and noise drive with a kidney is concerned. The I particularly want to hide.
You've obviously false ideas of the what the effect of a directional microphone can provide. In a quiet room you'll get with every Microphone noise of any camera lens or the record. It is not so much on the directivity of the microphone, but rather on the relationship between the self-noise of the Camera and Nutzgeräuschen the front of the camera. In a quiet room, far away where someone is talking, you sound so much later "pull" that any of you ever hear camera noise. The camera microphone is not for all recording situations.

The sound recording outside of a main lobe drops not to zero, but they will only be lowered. And in some angles it even rises again.

Try this cheap quiet times Rode Videomic, perhaps so that you achieve even better results.

Matthias

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