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Frage von Wernerh:


Hello,
in this forum is probably to "cameras". In the digital "camera" forum, one can not but ask, because it uses almost the ninth movie function.

Maybe someone here has enough experience and tried.
I still have no modern camera, which has a movie function.
My idea would be to me zuzulegen one location in order to
like with a film camera to shoot, however, that the one
Camera can always have here, as it were in his pocket.

I know that you would have to scale back considerably, depending on the claims.
The question is, can Man with the movie function at all what in the
Direction to do?
I do not mean little clips for your mobile phone or iPod, but actual "video recordings" with a lot of memory.
For example, two memory modules to 2GB to as an example.

, Intended for meetings, birthdays, etc etc. Less demanding to
Landscape images in order to shoot, rather special moments
maintain, if not many photos, film and sound desirable.

Now, several models already come with MPEG4, which actually
synonymous possible to film more than a few minutes.

Synonymous, but I heard that most of the movie function? none
Exposure control, auto focus and zoom allow.

Unfortunately, one gets little information about this topic. The
Manufacturers brochures and the Internet is silent.

On the packing box of Pentax Optio I read as
Tracking auto focus as feature.
But you can never read what that means in detail.
Also the feature to shake as early as the Movie mode
work with some cameras.

Perhaps someone has something more insight.
MPEG4 is an important issue, or synonymous with drawbacks (eg, compression loss)?

How is it with the tracking AF and exposure etc?

If you like a movie in VGA (640x480) on your computer
perhaps even somewhat nice feeling ...
sowas how it looks via DVD player on the Television.

On my cheap DVD player to view digital photos have not
more beautifully made. Are there differences in DVD players, which, Scali the Size?

That was a lot. I am looking for evidence in any event, synonymous when someone says, forget it all ...

Werner



Antwort von steveb:

do not be angry, but hinzubekommen synonymous with film cameras remotely useful is not possible. since each 200 ¬ are also better invested in a cheap DV camera, as in a eierlegendewollmilchfotokamera.



Antwort von K.-D. Schmidt:

Hello Werner,

I own the Canon Ixus 50 and had recently tried out only once out of curiosity, for testing purposes, the movie function (I currently create video films usually with a JVC GY DV5000). I must say I was mighty surprised. Although you can only record 30 seconds on the 512 MB memory card, but the picture quality was fine (640x480 resolution, 30 frames / sec). Looked on the computer surprisingly good (could be played with Quicktime).

I then converted the file, burned to DVD and I s.Fernsehgerät considered. Again, I was surprised at the quality. The colors were very natural. The sharpness was not with the familiar images of the DV-camera comparable (720x576's just more than 640x480 pixels), but it is synonymous not bad.

Is for serious shooting and production for television is such a camera Stillimage not naturally suited, if synonymous) with 2 GB (or soon to 6 GB more space. If it should be but s.PC for small films, one can get along sometimes synonymous with it.

Critics said it was possible, I know what I'm talking about. I know (and own) various camcorder to deliver a decent quality.

Greeting
KDS



Antwort von Jan:

Hello you,

now, most cameras shoot until card is full, so synonymous 12 minutes s.Stück, Canon recently every 3600 seconds / 1 GB card. When one reaches for cheap memory card's views may have a limit of 30 seconds to give, as the average speed is not made for video feature about 1-1.5 MB / sec of the map. I myself had I think about 3 weeks ago a customer with IXUS 50's was, he had a cheap SD card from the supermarket and was only 30 seconds after closing time and it had to be stored between - with a Sandisk / self Hama SD, we have then easily able to film the desired 11-12 minutes s.Stück.

With a video camera, the films have nothing in common sound is a huge difference, the majority uses a Micro Mono with very modest response with wave sound, only a few such as Casio 505 / Canon S 2 / 3 IS
Stereo sound.

The optical zoom is looking at compacts mostly in vain, for the number 1 Company Sonyist me with the current affordable cameras only H 2 / H 5 known uses an optical zoom for video and with the AF. Most small cameras do not change the distance setting during zooming, even well-known major new Zoomdigiknipsen ala Panasonic FZ 7 have no optical zoom and no AF in video.

The remainder is the Sony's zoom locked during filming, you can only choose the correct zoom as against eg for W 30 / 50 or top-N 1

The majority of companies use digital zoom in video (Armor for Canon, Casio, etc)

One of the few companies with optical zoom in video cameras, Kodak is in the narrow zb V 550 / 570 etc.

My recommendation would be Panasonic TZ 1 although you would not be too small --
Leica optics, 10x optical zoom, optical zoom / AF in video, mono sound only, unfortunately.

Digital cameras with optical stabilization - of which gibts at the moment a lot - usually synonymous use him for the video function.

Whether a digicam has a digital stabilizer with video, there really only very few companies that Nikon has a few models that I know.

Video editing in the camera have eg new Canon 's / Casio or Pentax.

The new Pentax (A 10, T 10, S 6) have, however, as a lame AF that I can not even function for the photo would suggest.

MPEG 4 's Video consumption at the Cam's very little space at about 20 / 30 MB / minute and still look very attractive, some with MPEG 2 as SonyW 5 / 7 still need around 60 MB / min. But because of the low data rate of all Digcam's - Mini DV consistently 25 Mbit / sec has, digicam's more like 5 Mbit / sec - is quickly lost all movement in the claim.

And 4 GB SD cards will be accepted next time only a few cameras, because they are due to the FAT 32 structure without the update for you are not readable. Even with Panasonic cameras is expected of the only published SDR S 100 will get an update without any problem to use a 4 GB card.

So now'm ashamed ...

LG
Jan



Antwort von Axel:

Salut Werner.
I agree with my outpost, but grasp the point up again: "Wernerh" wrote: I know that you would have to scale back considerably, depending on the claims.
The question is, can Man with the movie function at all what in the
Direction to do?
I do not mean little clips for your mobile phone or iPod, but actual "video recordings" with a lot of memory.
For example, two memory modules to 2GB to as an example.

, Intended for meetings, birthdays, etc etc. Less demanding to
Landscape images in order to shoot, rather special moments
maintain, if not many photos, film and sound desirable. The important moments in life when, for example, the mortals crawling baby the first somersault on the trampoline, or make the bear dragged the eagle, are in no way of aesthetic appeal, must be preserved by high Resolutionzu. Here is the information made available by the subjects themselves. The birthday: instead of Fand, the candles were blown out. The meeting: Joerg was there, Mona had not yet forgiven him. Better start with the Handycam, which is to the matter. Only better if the thing has no zoom, and all the other bells and whistles. Also good if you have to be limited to a few seconds, then "shoots" it less rubbish. As the slogan was the first smart cars? "Reduce to the maximum!"
"Wernerh" wrote: If you like a movie in VGA (640x480) on your computer
perhaps even somewhat nice feeling ...
sowas how it looks via DVD player on the Television.

On my cheap DVD player to view digital photos have not
more beautifully made. Are there differences in DVD players, which, Scali the Size?
If your digital pictures look bad on your DVD player, get better, a higher resolution level. The settings Normal, Fine and Best, etc. other hand, are more interesting for the post and subsequent expression options. Certainly there are differences in the quality of different players, but that's probably a topic for Stiftung Warentest.
The small of you mentioned movies, I would not scale, but leave it with the edge that corresponds to their Resolutionim Comparison to Television. Wine and water can be a breath of fresh cider, soda and water from acidic water.



Antwort von Wernerh:

3.Versuch

Hello ...

Despite video forum is apparently yes but what has been unleashed.

Very briefly ... it's not that I can not appreciate important moments, because it sounded so ...
I'd prefer to record everything in HD. Who does not.
Recently, we died unexpectedly an important person.
Sure, there are photos. They can, however, no joy, jokes, facial expressions, the sound of the voice (which one could remember) etc etc hold.
Stereo or Mono, HD or VGA.
The only way to think about.
(This is not the reason for this concern here)

Stefan, KDS, Jan and Axel, thanks for the detailed answers.
Since this information is really useful.

I had a video camera synonymous approximately 10 years, if only synonymous Hi8.
But I've never used. It has always bothered me, the thing
rumzutragen and thereby to have.
In spring, they said goodbye, through lying around. The SMD capacitors
expired, I suspect as the cause.
Granted, at that time the cameras were a bit bigger.
But I have already clarified for me that I did not want more.
I admit, photography is not my major issue.

These are mostly vacation photos and a couple of occasions
I want to hold on to. Where the quality can not be in the foreground. In fact, it is rather the memories.

Digital I photograph with 1.3 Mpixel. As may now be one or the other
chuckle over it. An old Olympus, had been okay for my 10x15 prints.
Again, the same problem, I'm never here because they are too big
and thus is impractical.
Therefore, the idea came when a new camera, then it must be small, And. ..
2 things you can not somehow connect, and Stillimage
"at least a little" film.
Not optimal, but still attractive.
So the idea came about.
If a "real" video camera to be really small one, so that
they can put in your pocket, I'd go for it.

MPEG 4, you can shoot at 1 Gbyte already VGA/30Bilder about 70 minutes ".
Would be quite interesting in that light.

A few minutes recording really makes no sense.
Nor under VGA resolution.

I'm already a few times in photo departments went out and her
and several evenings on photo websites.
But your answers have given me s.meisten information.

I think now is the time to look at those movies.

For the DVD player problem ...
I've only tried this once, and the 1.3 Mpixel saw on the
Television, of even a much smaller Resolutionhat, fairly
Miess out.
I heard that some DVD players Scali the photo, etc.
Can I now swear not at for me .. I need tonight
again to test.

Axel: the black border to leave?
I did this before. Makes the car a Player
Boundary around it, or will we have the missing pixels with a special
Software feed them up "" and then resave?
Sorry, I'm here an absolute novice.

So thanks again for your help
Werner



Antwort von Axel:

Salut Werner,
after all, what you write about your modesty and skepticism of Videofilmerei opposite, but as one reads between the lines again the hunger for FETTER resolution. "Wernerh" wrote: For the DVD player problem ...
I've only tried this once, and the 1.3 Mpixel saw on the
Television, of even a much smaller Resolutionhat, fairly
Miess out. This means either your camera does not have good pictures, despite the 1.3 megapixel (unlikely at Olympus), or your DVD player is nothing (even probable, Billigteile are often really bad, but some brand synonymous equipment failure), or your expectations are too high. Remember that conventional produce an interlaced television, the fine lines of contrasting forces us to flicker. How do you bring the images on the screen? Are you just a CD-R with JPEGs, or you make a DVD with a DVD program? Are you just a slideshow with a Stillimage presentation software (for example, would be in my Mac iPhoto)? As you can see, many roads lead to the goal, maybe you should call up the help topics of your OS and inform you about the possibilities.
"Wernerh" wrote: I heard that some DVD players Scali the photo ... If it is larger, it is scaled down, Hochkantaufnahmen synonymous. This then meets most of your shots and is just as problematic as the relatively moderate Größerskalieren.
"Wernerh" wrote: Axel: the black border to leave?
I did this before. Makes the car a Player
Boundary around it, or will we have the missing pixels with a special
Software feed them up "" and then resave? For photos: Photoshop, for example, allows you to edit and re-saving as a JPEG in the PAL size. Here you have complete control over the presentation of the image, clipping, scaling, and, very important, a careful smoothing of fine lines (see above). You can synonymous photos for the television into a (better) editing program to load, with virtually the same control options, also can combine still images and video sequences. If you have a smaller Resolutionaus the Movie function have your digital camera, editing program you see in the black background of the digital "Nothing." Resist the temptation to the small avi, mov, mpg, etc. Full Frame raise. This is against animal-friendly farming and micro-mies is in the result.
Who the dignity of the small Resolutionrespektiert and is dedicated to the content will be rewarded with better shooting than the HDV videographers who is just in its dissolution is Heini phase. The wisdom relating to



Antwort von Acer:

"Wernerh" wrote:
If a "real" video camera to be really small one, so that
they can put in your pocket, I'd go for it.

Hi Werner,

which already exists. Canon out of the house (1 / 2, 8 "CCD = really good photos, 650 ¬)

The Canon is a so-called right camera, and makes the best photos in the camcorder area. She even holds with some 1-2 MP cameras.
And since you the Resolutionnicht is so important, but rather the content that is not the right one.

I know it sounds strange for a beautiful harmonious discussion, chat in between, but this camcorder is now a super time machine. And are these images on SD card, movies on cassette.

Dimensions: WxHxD (in mm): 51 x 102 x 102

Is this small enough?

Ciao;).

Philipp



Antwort von Acer:

;-) Without Comment: The "Original" - Canon Description

Ciao






Antwort von Jan:

Na is 70 min a little exaggerated, perhaps at 320x240.

The very space-saving Pentax S 6 (MPEG 4 DivX consumed) in the best Resolutionin about 23 MB a minute, more 40 / 50 minutes, but quite ok, the DIVX codec is indeed sometimes even without having to convert the format immediately when enabled DVD player detected.

However, Acer has the right MVX 4i is probably the best smallest addition to Sanyo HD 1 Stillimage / video camera that we currently have.

LG
Jan



Antwort von Wernerh:

Hi ..,

even with 70 minutes, I probably lay out a little above the target. It's coming,
because I had the head smokes. Plenty of tech. Data scoured
And hardly progressed. No meaningful, especially complete information. One can guess. Probably go only through test reports, if sowas schonmal was consistently tested.

In any event, the Casio Exilim S500/600 as an example

films with 256MB with VGA Resolutionlaut tech. Dates:

Normal 2.1MbitSec, 15 min, ie about 60 min to 1 Gbyte
HQ, 4 MBitSec, 8 min, ie about 30 min to 1 GB

30 min I find synonymous's okay for now, no idea whether that is still MPEG 4th

Perhaps the cameras can manage synonymous already 2GB.

When I think that fits on a DVD 4.5 GB on it,
then the memory issue would soon be none actually be more.

I actually find obsolete tape drives and take up too much space.
If anything, hard drive, because today almost everyone with a computer anyway
works and the "removable media" is no longer strictly necessary.
On vacation you can take occasional burn the CD / DVD.
Here's looking at me like the Canon camera at times. But looking as I said, actually what your pocket, jacket, motorcycle jacket etc etc
Since synonymous within the tiny video cameras through the bars.

In the movie I thought fashion directly to an MPEG4 capable DVD Player
play. (if I do not sit s.Computer)

Currently I have such a cheap DVD player. Not even of Aldi.
When I ranzoome JPEG photos one stage, I have some the impression that the quality
would be better. Possibly because it will have towards the original size
of Stillimage goes. As one looks a bit more detail.
Of course everything is not as nice as on the Calculator.
And in the more critical consideration, I think to myself so that,
what the TV so the SAT hergibt, synonymous is not so impressive.
If a person as an object some distance is in the Picture, are synonymous in his face barely make out outlines. At the (moving) film you might respects
not so well on it, is distracted by more information and synonymous s.The "lesser used" image quality.

Too bad that the Manufacturer has no test movies on the website.
Then you could try first, what you get with purchase.

So, at the moment is the way to look at a few test movies.
And then decide ...
The extent of here.

Schönen Gruß Werner



Antwort von Jan:

Hello Wernerh,

Casio when I should be careful when I say I am the Casio Z 750 S 500 and to withdraw because of massive noise of people together had about 8 cameras (there are still 6 other sellers) because everyone said the same thing, only I've got it viewed in color Stillimage, thought naja as some guests here - may be purchased magazines.

Then we had a company party with many people with Casio S 500, Canon Ixus 55, SonyT 5, Panasonic FX 9 and Fuji F 10 All pictures were posted on the network, even inexperienced apprentices were the Casio pictures at once, although not synonymous FX 9 images were noise free, the Casio pictures bribed by a recurring "veil" with Blur and Pixelbrei. The Fuji F 10 / 11 makes the most noise-free images at the higher gain in addition to 1 to SonyR towards SLR class, has rumgesprochen in the world already.

It's funny that usually only Digitalkameraerstbesitzer with Casio are satisfied customers who know the best, Canon, Pentax, Panasonic, Fuji, Kodak Sonyoder eg because we are the perfect contrast. The Pentax unpaid legal Optics does the rest sent to Casio, Canon is building s.Optics since 60 years, Sonyhat long partnership with Zeiss, Pana with Leica.
Evil tongues say Casio should stay with their calculators and left to the experienced construction companies.

At the lower data rate, driving either the Casio fps back (like most of Sony's), or take less Resolution320x240. At 15 frames per second, but the video looks even worse if slight movement comes into play, now lost any claim. If it really only 640x480 / 30 F / s.

Good is synonymous Casio has some advantages, its past movie feature is nice, DV editing in the camera well - although that may Pentax and Canon (Recent) synonymous, great benefits, such as large battery Casio NP 40 - Casio Z 750 / 500 / 600 etc with the small NP 20 but synonymous playful, set shutter speeds as at Z 750 / 850 is the S 500 / 600 not synonymous. And 15 cm close focus is synonymous a little weak, just like the LCD with 85,000 pixels, as competitors have 230,000 pixels.

Although the newer S 600 is already better than the old S 500, I have not yet withdrawn, the same battery actually keeps for longer - I can confirm.

You know, the Pana I like - but my recommendation for you at a good little would SonyT 9 with optical stabilization - on the Memory Stick Pro Duo, and the rather expensive Battery NP FT 1, and no zoom in video but now you'd have to get involved, but one excellent battery remaining indicator - so no one except Sonyhat.

LG
January



Antwort von Wernerh:

Hi Jan,

Both specify above were related to 640x480 VGA (The Casio) ...

TNX for all the info!

I had not been thinking straight s.The Casio. But the advertising of
where halt is for more, mainly because my MPEG4.
Most of the others treat the topic with one sentence and that's it.

The T9 synonymous, I find very interesting. I am not clear how the zoom works, since it is mechanically inside. The lens looks a bit small ... Protection slide forward, I find useful.
In Sonywird for specified MPEG Movie VX.
What it is again .... DIVX? So a sort of synonymous MPEG4?
It will not specify any amount of data or time.

The DCW-50 synonymous, I find interesting.

Also I like the Canon Ixus55. But here you get Motion-JPEG.
Again, no details of storage space or time.

I suppose M-JPEG compression is not as strong ..?
How many matches on it because even with 1 GB?
Canon has nothing.
Can you or someone say something to the film duration in 1GB?
(640x480/30Bilder)

The Pentax A10 is synonymous Mpeg4, you said the zoom is bad.
Also I liked the rubber flap is not which side of the Bushes
clamshell. For the price this is a bit thin.
Should already be with lid's hinge and spring.
(You look so undemanding I'm again not synonymous:)

Overall, I can live without zoom, given that these anyway just wobbles
And you have probably heard the engine in the film.
Exposure can probably not synonymous with movie mode ... synonymous one can possibly live without if you do not just
Of the blazing sun in the shade reinhält.

I still see various other models.
Others have noticed me but now not so clearly or in memory
remained.

In CT, I've found online film clips.
Certainly with top hardware filmed. Despite the compression looks for me
Beginners s.Calculator actually made quite impressive. With the small digital cameras can not wait sowas sure (I guess), but perhaps it is at least an indication that the MPEG4 compression is useless.
http://www.heise.de/ct/03/10/146/tabelle_engel.shtml

Regards
Werner



Antwort von Wernerh:

With the Casio a colleague (I know now is not the model,
the little that can not MPEG4), we have a short AVI Test
made in artificial light, without making any settings before.
Camera on, losgefilmt. 640x480, 30 frames. Normal mode.
20 seconds have used this 15MB.
Above the 1 GB thumb would be enough for about 20 minutes
M-JPEG.
I still have never seen a film of another camera, so it can
do not compare.
When artificial light the colors were a bit too strong.
And the picture had some noise, maybe the Phenomen, which here
was raised. Total synonymous not properly sharp, as if
empower your slightly wrong. But I could not synonymous distance
to see would have voted for the sharpness. As the movie
I find this less disturbing than break.
All in all, but I found it pretty interesting.
Can I absolutely what to do with.
Not for the ambitious film, but for an alternative to Stillimage
Capture moments, not at bad times.
My first impression as someone who does not run so much effort
And who wants rumgefilmt only a bit over the years with Hi8, was quite positive.
Also available as a trial entry for people to deal with any film.
Probierts times out, if you have a similar camera and the
have been left out of account.

Greeting
Werner



Antwort von Jan:

Yes once 15 images / second, a time with 30 frames per second with, Fine Sonyim exactly does / Normal mode, somewhere needs to get lower data rate for the same Resolutionja ago. Can not be both 30 / images / second.

Casio will generally not a bad company, quickly recognized the signs of the time and build what customers: nice design with lots of color, large LCD, space-saving MPEG 4 movies, fast speed (AF, delay and processing speed - sometimes deletes the entire memory of a Sonyand alongside that of a Casio!, nice features ala Rapid Flash, Past Movie and the good 30 Best Shot scene modes, but in the actual shooting Königsdisiplin image quality, especially in sunlight, no date, they are still behind the best Canon, Fuji Sonyoder zb.

With optical zoom at T 9 exactly like Pana TZ 1 and deflecting some of Minolta lenses across the top. The camera is a little dimmer - the smallest aperture / light intensity as 3.3 - 3.5, have to move the other in the traditional way their lenses often 2.8 - eg IXUS, but accurate picture Sonyselbst the test came out with the technology -- really looks after losses - is still just ahead of Canon Primus. At T 9 was being played probably synonymous of very effective anti-noise filter for profit with.

Yes Sony video did you have the right synonymous is an MPEG 4 Compression is heard. Yes DSC W 50 is the moment of selling hit with an even stronger Battery BG 1 but without the super-battery remaining display, zooming is only synonymous with video before.

Canon s.bei are all actual Xs shoot up to 1 GB, except in the special format is 60 frames / sec 320x240 and 160x120, unless the SD card is really slow, then first time after 30 seconds Final. I had given up only one customer in which the cam is really after 30 seconds and ran out of air, it was about a cheap supermarket card. Even the relatively simple Hama Normal SD has filmed zun no problem to fully map. If one lodges 1 GB seems to think I 640x480/30/B/s about 8 minutes, the camera is filming, but were more so about 11-13 minutes, I did not now exactly in my head.

No, the problem is the Pentax autofocus which makes a lot of time at S 6, A 10 or the brand new Sony touch screen copied T 10th During normal program, they are extremely slow in the sports program at Panfocus and both are very fast (S 6 / A 10), but Casio, Fuji, or Sonysind always fast, since you have no other program to switch the camera on the motion to compel. In the pretty T 10 that is probably the Nichtkaufgrund, much faster, I could not make it.

Yes I was pleasantly surprised on my first synonymous intense SonyW 5 films, but wiegesagt on motion with low data rate, it is easy to quickly build a MiniDv impression on a digicam in the Picture. Who gets his claims runterschraubt synonymous with a digicam to have viable movies.

LG
Jan



Antwort von Wernerh:

Hello,

I just got the Casio (Z 120) tried again in the Movie HQ mode.
I look forward to the outcome. See it but not until next week.

It's not easy to decide on a model, especially one not at s.Anfang really know what one needs, wants and what all the cameras may or may not.

I've already made a preliminary selection.
And if someone says to me now "... tja, wrong choice,"
me then I'd opt for the Samsung i6 PMP.

Small, beautiful design, Optics does not move out
(has optical possibly detrimental, but not annoying),
MPEG4 at VGA 30Bilder, Verwacklungsreduktion synonymous with movie,
Movie-pause button, zoom in Movie (micro) will switch off the process of
MP3 Music, and the standard camera features.

Had I schonmal in hand, but again disengaged. When researching the web I noticed yesterday it is again.

There is a similar interesting synonymous Samsung, which is
to see video cameras. Although not at it actually belongs. VP-15 something.
Similar to the i6, but can be used as synonymous Webcam
And apparently as an external hard drive. She already has 500MB of built house
onboard.
I never imagined the data is still not so well regarded, not stand out as the Camera and Movie Functions special.
Nevertheless, interesting because they are easily overlooked.

Unless Samsung, came a couple of other models in question, eg SonyT9 and others, but I could take any firm decision yet.

The extent of here.
Opinions?

Greeting and before all, nice weekend
Werner



Antwort von Jan:

The lenses are the T 9 of the bottom (CCD), fitted up, the optical stabilizer for the bottom front of the CCD. Again had to be corrected.

Yes, the Samsung I had not looked so well to film at 45 min 3.35 MB internal memory is sharp, even with optical zoom, but I think without AF, otherwise fine.

Kodak V 570 zb Wiegesagt even with super wide angle.

LG
January



Antwort von Jan:

Olympus even though I did not count among my favorites - thanks to the exotic XD card, a video tip is the 350th SP

) With video (optical / digital zoom can be set to ISO (synonymous gain can be changed during the shoot, AF is synonymous s.Bord although he takes 1.2 seconds (But is synonymous switched off), sound can be synonymous away, very strong . Then another 1 / 1, 8 "CCD and a flash shoe, and yet a compact camera with shutter speed / aperture settings and AA battery size.

The only thing not so great is the Quicktime compression.

LG
Jan






Antwort von Wernerh:

Hello,
Indeed, there is too much choice.
Today I had the Samsung i6 in the hand. External power is not so
the good impression. At least the silver looks a bit like painted plastic.
Although the data are indeed interesting, the whole menu structure is unpleasant.
I have been unable to play a movie after the recording again. Have 10 minutes rumgewurschtelt menu.

A small bright spot, however, would be the other above-mentioned Samsung:
The VP-MS15, which indeed has 500 MB of onboard memory and is even upgradeable,
possibly to 1.5 GB as I read on a website-company
(unclear whether this is true),
Webcam function, MP3, and hard drive function does.
She has a nice wheel for the modes.
From this will now come out of office:

http://www.samsung.com/PressCenter/PressRelease/PressRelease.asp?seq=20060111_0000224663

The MS25 looks the same. But it has been 6 instead of 5 Mpixel.
The display now has 3 Inch hopefully with better resolution.
It will make 30 pictures VGA MPEG4, while the MS15 was only 25,
if the tech. Data may believe.
That part makes a stronger impression than the i6.

According to the press release in May, they will come onto the market.

Otherwise, I've noticed nothing. The Nikon S6, but
which can unfortunately only M-JPEG.

Beautiful Sunday
Werner