Frage von TiMovie:
Yesterday I had my first job with the EX3 in a disco --
and I was very excited to RS problems - but they were not so serious - but a big problem for the cam were blue flashlights or anything blue lights!
Antwort von RocknRoyal:
Hi,
I can tell you "sorry" does not help, but I am even curious what may be the ultimate ...
But funny, I find the video on the "Tommy" to see where I am over 10 years, always in the studio was in Walldorf / Wiesloch with Enrico - the duo (ok trio, with Trixxie) was Masterboy earlier and was in Ettlingen their disco "Extreme" ...
In the recording studio of the guys as I look at the "wild heart ecker boys" must know * lach *
We found garnichtmehr s.den types thought to whether the still loves * g * but it seems so ....
Gruss
Alex.
Antwort von TiMovie:
Hi Alex - small world!
Have the times today contacted Sony support - let's see what they say!
Normal may not be covered so what can you maximum of its ¬ 500 Cam accept!
Gruß Timo
Antwort von RocknRoyal:
Hi,
so small is really probably the world, where it was because of you've filmed?
Do you have any lights used? ND filter? Gain? ...
Grüßle
Alex.
Antwort von WoWu:
Hello Timo
Type mal drauf, the blue headlights that neither part of the white balance was still part of the light measurement and automatic without you (clearly) have worked, because of course nothing should be pumped. ?
So if you are the Lumaverlust by throwing in the glow of your wish to avoid exposure, helps to filter out only.
Antwort von Pianist:
and I was very excited to RS Problems May be I'll ask what "RS problems?
Matthias
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Times ... Can I ask what "RS problems "?... RS = Rolling Shutter
Antwort von Pianist:
Times ... Can I ask what "RS problems "?...
RS = Rolling Shutter Understand, then he says that is "rolling shutter problems" or "RS-problems" but not "rolling shutter problems" or "RS problems."
Matthias
Antwort von KrischanDO:
...
Normal may not be covered so what can you maximum of its ¬ 500 Cam accept!
Gruß Timo Moin,
I know these effects of DSLR synonymous, especially in concert photos, as does the red channel to be happy.
I'm curious to see what Sony has to say (have a EX-1) and how long Sony needed.
Regards
Christian
Antwort von TiMovie:
@ Alex
That was in the Kinki Palace Sinsheim - Sunshine live welcome to the club
I have filmed in 720/50p with:
Swit 2000-3200K with filter
- Gain = +9
hight HD-coated UV filter (! is because perhaps the dog is buried?)
@ Wowu
Type mal drauf, the blue headlights that neither part of the white balance was still part of the light measurement and automatic without you (clearly) have worked, because of course nothing should be pumped. ? Yes that is correct! - This staining is still not normal!
UV filter! only theory: Can it be that the UV filter is precisely this light "reflected" and the cam is filming this?
Gruß Timo
and of course all a happy new year
Antwort von Axel:
The evidence that the EX1 / 3 cameras are good, the expectation of the owners. 9 dB gain has been a fairly substantial increase. Other Cameras (... ;-)) would be as much noise. The WB is set to
manual on artificial light. A blue disco lights would default to the 3200 ° C most probably 10,000 ° K - or more, what do I do? He is so mega ultra blue. He is also a strong
light source and emits the polished baldness directly. Would you angehabt zebra, would +9 dB reflection this anyway more or less geclipt, rather if I should recommend. What remains is a royal blue, loose patch recording, in one or two frames, so why the fuss? You can of any device, in accordance with the laws of physics working in critical fractions of a second to square the circle expect that it is anticipating that your manual setting for a blatant 01:03:17:31 produce would result if, yes if the omnipotent, omniscient Cam for 3/50tel seconds autopilot would connect ...
Antwort von robbie:
Discos are basically a light problem.
The White Balance on the bright lights do is madness at all, not synonymous, I think that this was meant.
3.2 Preset always useful results, otherwise a white light over the head, in order to come to 2.8.
The problem with blue and red in the disco's in fact. I film scene for several years and know of events of synonymous of IMX and XDCAM HD. Everywhere the same.
The problem s.der thing, I think times, the headlights, which can be used. And although in these moving heads or scanners usually HMI lights indoors (hence you're ever of being on the light source is certainly 7.000K), then through the thick, colored glass panes come (ie are you on something to 10.000K) . And this light is in the intensity of so many f-stops brighter than ambient light (to come to +9 db at you), but the light is very synonymous bundled and addressed.
From that time forth I say, this is completely normal. I am looking for interviews I usually make, not just the middle of the dance floor and so the luminous effect of this hotspot is Chen.
What sometimes helps if you have a good link to the LJ has, or for the right channel is on, the entire dance floor for one or two songs, where one is filming, with the floodlights or in the jargon "blind" something aufzuhellen. Has the same effect as 2-3 Arris-2k, and usually have the normal light bulbs inside, so perfect color temperature. Is not as popular as allegedly destroyed the mood: P
I'm looking for still a few screenshots out that this effect is quite normal.
Edit: Axel was faster.
Antwort von TiMovie:
Robbie @
Thanks for the info - however synonymous movies I have for years favored Club with my old films FX1 - because I have such serious coloring not noticed!
I ask myself the question - is the "error" on the over exposure of the CMOS or CIPS attributed the fault is in the optical system!
However, this is synonymous my first use of the EX3 under these lighting conditions and perhaps do I meticulously synonymous to the frames!
The rolling shutter is synonymous to the Hammer! In 50p mode, but the pleasant effect is that the half-lit images are superimposed on soft and have no sharp edges and thus the eye is not too bad!
Gruß Timo
Antwort von TiMovie:
Robbie @
Yeah, I totally forgot to mention:
s.den 7,000-10.000k it can not, because everything blue leutete this effect provoked - the mixer had control of all colors and the blue switches were shown as blue spots - so in my eyes definitiev an error of Cam!
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Antwort von TiMovie:
@ Alex
I think it was an error with +9 gain to film
I can obviously synonymous enumerate many positive points:
When using the head light is the background noise, especially in the fuzzy area is a very nice noise - looks like film grain!
The depth of field at open aperture is very good!
in 35MBits mode at very low light conditions and people dancing as well as no compression artifacts visible as opposed to the FX1 - because you can play a game of dice!
The display is super sharp in order to
Slomo shots in 60p see hammer from
Super Wide!
SxS / KXS Maps - goil!
.......
A pity, I find that under these conditions, the autofocus can forget the same, but the bodies with sharp attack is good - I am the high luxury of the FX1 has always used the same sharpness usually not the only thing I really wanted to film - haha
Antwort von domain:
Where please be here at your repopulated Recording a mistake?
We must also never forget that the sensitivity of sensors, CCD with more than CMOS, is not the spectral sensitivity of the eye. There is only one filter and internal electronics reached rapprochement s.das human eye and the majority for "glowing" full-spectrum light sources, ie the sun and incandescent lamps.
In many other light sources, there can be a significant perception gap between the perceived and the eye of the camera recorded Picture come.
Am sure that the camera no errors.
Antwort von Axel:
Take me there are not crooked, but synonymous when you think of Sony as a customer support a polite reply, the monitors on the eyes rolling zuraunen:
Hey, I've been given a new automatic film! ... - But movies I have been synonymous Club prefers movies with my old FX1 - because I have such serious coloring not noticed! Because a color, it is not at all. It is an exposure error. With the FX-1, I have synonymous filmed in a disco. This is an automatic fine-camera. Although I am with the A1 just got in automatic mode, this would be there just happens. What I often use the fact, is the zebra. I do not trust me, therefore, the stain as overexposure to interpret. He is also blue, but it is quite clear. In the given situation was the right and gain the exposure synonymous. The error was, as "robbie", writes that you are to your subject and the light source were positioned incorrectly. No fault of the Cam.
Antwort von TiMovie:
Automatic was completely out and it is clear that I had Aperture fully open - the question which I would imagine but in the end is just ...
Why only in the color blue !!!!!
In the flash of light rushing all available colors and a white or yellow flash of light is synonymous with light and especially when a red light, the over-exposure that you do exactly the same effect provoke - but it is only when the blue color of the case?
@ Domain
the picture shows only that the blue light on radiation not only in the super bright lights to occur - in the opening theme, I have a short video sequence which shows the extreme case, and this has made me aback!
Greetings Timo
Antwort von domain:
In my view there is no blue light special over radiation. If, in the strictly red image as lots to see and which you will be in strong monochromatic light always, is more of an exposure problem and synonymous a consequence of the 4:2:0 recording and Compression.
Intense colors, especially red will always bleed into their surroundings.
Antwort von Axel:
... especially you, through your selected color, the chrominance
whole have shifted towards blue. The warmer colors are limited, so it is synonymous s.Stellen in which a red or yellow reflectors clipping leads to this stark Posterisierung. Mach doch mal mating test with 7000 ° K.
Antwort von TiMovie:
exactly what I say yes - so I know of similar phenomena in the red FX1 - but in red and all the other colors was not the case!
and now it looks really nice:
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Antwort von robbie:
It is not only in blue. It happens very happy synonymous with red, but blue is a bit fragile.
My physics times are a bit ago, but I think that with the wavelength and the White Balance together. Red is so similar to the 3.2 as blue. Blue is the completely different corner! Try out. If you take WB 3.2, and free to go, then you will overexpose faster than if you take 5.6k.
I enclose a few photos that show that it is synonymous with other cameras occurs. That was a PDW-F350 with HD Optics, +6 db, SD, and Aperture 1.5 (up to the interview situation, there's different.)
Interlace I was too lazy. But no preference, it looks as synonymous:
Picture 1 is relatively ok exposed, rich beautiful colors, not great lighting effects.
Picture 2 is there already otherwise. The nice blue comes in, especially violent. Thanks s.den LJ.
Picture 3, the same women, now the green phase. On the left shoulder of the lady particularly nice to see. A little brighter, and the synonymous Green had any drawing on the shoulder destroyed!
Picture 4, one can say the same as yours! The gentleman with the flower arrangements and the lady behind it are unrecognizable. Blue halt. Completely normal, and no fault of the Camera!
In 4:2:2, the same happens. At least on IMX. So I think is no problem of compression.
Antwort von TiMovie:
I can see - I must really learn with the Cam and me to deal with the matter of light, aperture and employ intensive WA!
Many thanks and a Happy
Antwort von robbie:
Yes you're on the right away.
Small s.Rande Tip: If thy Lord with the Micro, and two ladies in my interview comparing you realize that your Lord, with the exception of the blue bald, a bit unhealthy face color!
Can of course much, but I type too little to head light or an LED from the left head light? And you are trying desperately to the foreground and background like hell to make. Can not work!
Antwort von domain:
Times would estimate that such effects only when strictly monochromatic and while quite sharp dot directional light source can occur. Blue is so to speak, with 255 codes and the other two colors are totally out.
Would it be white light, then these bodies would be totally outshines know, because then all 3 colors with 255 would be encoded.
Looks great but, gefällt mir gut.
Antwort von TiMovie:
jap - to win, I think I've always between Led daylight and artificial light changed - and will still gain +9 reinforcement - that is poisonous - is probably the price for high-CMOS.
Give me times n tip as the next time I handle it is ...
Aperture down and keep it more artificial gain at 0?
Antwort von TiMovie:
It would absolutely not disturb me, if in the middle of this perfectly normal on-off radiation but this would be up to the outside surface abgekantete think I graussig - and it is true that this effect in all colors may appear - but these too shallow to the outside like a Farbferlauf ab!
Antwort von Axel:
Give me times n tip as the next time I handle it is ...
Aperture down and keep it more artificial gain at 0? Not necessarily. After my
tastes are recordings Disco Lowkey, it need not all be as bright as yours. But this is not a question of right or wrong. Less gain, the blue blob would probably only have been small (of course, all that bit darker).
A head light would naturally create a balance. It can be used when the correct exposure of the motif is more important than an authentic atmosphere, but otherwise it has a little flash with the built of a snapshot camera in common: Flatsch! Way were the shades!
Watch out for over exposure, it is almost always unacceptable. Use for a while the zebra function and make sure how the effect in the finished video. It is not always over-exposure
to avoid, then it is a discretionary matter. Or you switch the location when it comes to a live situation.
Antwort von robbie:
With disco and so I only give artificial with about 2.8-3.2K. So exactly what a normal light bulb generates. With an LED head light, you will never be achieved, is not synonymous with a CTO filter. Purchase yourself a head with the light bulb. Need even more power, but the disadvantage you have to eat. 20W range for Disco loose. And then something else before frost, so that the light is softer.
White balance preset to 3.2 represent the entire evening and never switch.
Staging! Control the people, for example, with a micro camera into the talk so what you want. No light of the front, except for your head light. In the middle of the crowd is very bad. And please do not top of which is embarrassing. Camera at eye level. Exposure to the interviewee. What happens behind you must be no preference.
Always only the foreground image. What happens back, not interested. Only in the totals. So do you have a story without blurring level. By Lichtsetztung. You determine what people want to see.
Multi-head light, less gain is our motto. That the background is underexposed then, I no preference. But it is a design issue. Since there are surely other views.
Edit: And once again, Axel was faster. Has a different opinion relating to the head light than I;). True but synonymous. But that is the design for which you are responsible. And disco rather dark, I am fully back on its Page ...
Antwort von Pianist:
White balance preset to 3.2 represent the entire evening and never switch. Either the same way and nothing else - or you dare, the white with the neon light on the loo to make. Then you'll usually be around 4,000 Kelvin and has nicer skin tones.
Matthias
Antwort von TiMovie:
Super - thanks for the tips!
you never learn!
And as always, but the end of the song - it depends on the total work at!
Antwort von robbie:
Either the same way and nothing else - or you dare, the white with the neon light on the loo to make. Then you'll usually be around 4,000 Kelvin and has nicer skin tones.
Yeah, I am not yet married! My head is light in a completely dark room 2.8. Therefore synonymous rather brownish skin. But as so eh chic pale. If I get the white to 4000's, the more I can no longer be held responsible;). I probiers but!
Antwort von Pianist:
Yeah, I am not yet married! My head is light in a completely dark room 2.8. Therefore synonymous rather brownish skin. But as so eh chic pale. If I get the white to 4000's, the more I can no longer be held responsible;). I probiers but! So my Sachtler Reporter 100 (but with 50-watt burner) returns 3400 Kelvin, because the difference to 4,000 Kelvin pretty ideal, easy to warm skin tones to get. Attempts quiet times, your white to 4,000 Kelvin to bring light and then your times with 2800 Kelvin a Central European face. I think it would look very good. Over 4,000 but I would not go synonymous.
But it may be synonymous, given that different cameras respond very differently. Your Sony is always a somewhat different picture than my Ikegami deliver. But at least we see in viewfinders, on what color is the Camera when measuring agreed.
I think we just have very precise in the sense that if one in the current situation to convey a White Balance, or works with a value that one for some reason still has in memory. I know now exactly synonymous, in which situations I s.Konversionsfilterrad turn tough and quite deliberately to around 2,000 Kelvin White Balance setting up deviant, but I can be happy to demand what to write.
Matthias
Antwort von robbie:
Habs now nachgemessen. The Anton Bauer are exactly from 3.000K. Since I find the leap to 3.2 synonymous ok. I think nearly 4,000 would be too much to me.
The Sony power to another picture, yes. Already synonymous because they are slightly warmer set. But I personally like the picture as well, eg above the two ladies in the interview situation. If ichs with the IMX see, so are the two images are very similar, already synonymous alone because here in Austria all IMX synonymous slightly warmer set.
But I'm getting on it and turn on the switch PDW700, inasmuch as I do now no longer head of it. Because everything is different.
And then yes times Comparison of direct-IMX DVCAM offers. Same chip, same motif.
But now leave: P
