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16:9 und Encoding ist immer irgendwie 4:3

Encoding 16:9 and 4:3 is always somehow



Frage von NikoBellic:
Mai 2009

Hi folks,

First I would like a little bit about myself say. I am quite new in the matter and would like synonymous no special effects artists are :-)

I own a Panasonic GS230 and do all my videos in the 16:9 mode.

If I put on the calculator and then uncompressed, the Windows Media Player always very beautiful building full. Wandle I but one of the videos - no preference in which format - in order, so I get in 99% of the cases is a very distorted 4:3 (?) Picture, although I 16:9 adjustment.

I now have the following Programs durchprobiert:

- SUPER
- Total Video
- WinAVI

For all I always get the same result. I'm not really knowledgeable about the various formats is concerned. I would not synonymous official videos of me to bring out, just getting the resolution that my Windows Media Player issue.

Can I perhaps someone jumps on the help and say what I set number of pixels, so that the picture fills the space on my 27 inch for example, Dell is spent?

Because as I said no ace in the matter, I certainly synonymous nor details of the input material forgotten. Please just ask, I will be as good as possible, my information is complete.

Thank you very much
Timo

Edit: If possible, it would be a description for the Total Video very useful, because all of this but s.schnellsten converts. THANK YOU



Antwort von Clemensch:

Since your cam is a DV cam Resolutionvon she had a 720 x 576, and in this Resolutionmusst exactly the video you off synonymous.
I believe synonymous to know the 16:9 mode with a 4:3 letterbox format is. So no wirckliches 16:9. Therefore, the material is synonymous off 4:3.



Antwort von NikoBellic:

Ok, but the WMP the video is me but fills that space?

Thus, I assume that the material is somehow WMP hochskaliert, and exactly what I would like the encoding synonymous, so the videos, for example, synonymous to a plasma at least in the Width area are full. Bars above and below would not be so bad imho.

Is this possible?








Antwort von Quadruplex:

"Clemensch" wrote:
I believe synonymous to know the 16:9 mode with a 4:3 letterbox format is. So no wirckliches 16:9. Therefore, the material is synonymous off 4:3.

According to the manual both anamorphic 16:9 and a "Cinema" mode, said Balkenende.
"NikoBellic" wrote:
If I put on the calculator and then uncompressed, the Windows Media Player always very beautiful building full.

Which format is your screen?
"NikoBellic" wrote:
I turn one of the videos but

With what program?
"NikoBellic" wrote:
- No preference in which format - in order, so I get in 99% of the cases is a very distorted 4:3 (?) Picture,

That is basically correct. If you actually s.Deinem 16:9 and do not accidentally "Cinema" is enabled then draws a picture in anamorphic. On a 4:3 screen is the long-drawn.
What exactly do you do? You change your video into any other format? And what do you want to achieve? If you put your video as an AVI file with DV codec on the hard drive you should have them synonymous in this format further editing.
For most PC media players as you can manual adjust 16:9 formats - then the program should provide the images back into the Width pull.



Antwort von Clemensch:

Exactly, but the video in its original format off, WMP and then the scale Plasmafernsehn high. In the plasma simply Picture size change. Nevertheless, the video then s.Plasma, fullscreen, anschaun.

When encoding high Does not expect the encoder as the missing pixels herzaubern can not, because the only picture pixels, warped and ugly.

schöne Grüße
Clemens



Antwort von NikoBellic:

"Quadruplex" wrote:
According to the manual both anamorphic 16:9 and a "Cinema" mode, said Balkenende.


Also on the menu under "aspect" -> 16:9 is selected, the Cinema mode is set to OFF

"Quadruplex" wrote:
Which format is your screen?


This is where the Dell 2709 WFP of Resolutionvon with a 1920 x 1200 running. But also there is a Samsung SyncMaster 226BW and synonymous here is the video area fills.

"Quadruplex" wrote:

With what program?


Currently I am experimenting with the video Total rum, since this s.schnellsten converted. At the moment I try holding all sorts of rum, so I eventually get a result which happily agrees with me.

"Quadruplex" wrote:

That is basically correct. If you actually s.Deinem 16:9 and do not accidentally "Cinema" is enabled then draws a picture in anamorphic. On a 4:3 screen is the long-drawn.
What exactly do you do? You change your video into any other format? And what do you want to achieve? If you put your video as an AVI file with DV codec on the hard drive you should have them synonymous in this format further editing.
For most PC media players as you can manual adjust 16:9 formats - then the program should provide the images back into the Width pull.


The uncompressed material is still very big and therefore I would like my videos to the Xvid format bring.

Example: If I convert with SUPER and the Resolutionauf 1280 x 720 pixels high reckon, with the result that comes with the Picture flächenfüllenden out somehow. Only the pixels are not actually exist, so this is expected. Thus does the quality of synonymous. Since I'm an absolute layman I find it very hard it is synonymous concretely and correctly described. Times but I think using Google found a link to where was it difficult or quite difficult to convert video so that it is in principle as 1:1 in WMP is to be seen.

Again to illustrate my concern. I suppose in the aspect 16:9 (with Cinema mode off) with my DV Cam on. Then I bring the video with uncompressed Scenalyzer on the calculator. When I uncompressed video in WMP open, so the video is beautiful area full (200%) are shown. I now go out and convert it to Xvid format, then I get left and right of the video rather crude black bar and the video itself synonymous totally distorted.

What I want -> I would like the video then convert it in principle, 1:1 (uncompressed as it appears) as Xvid is converted.

Since I've been hanging days ever again.

Thank you!

Regards,
Timo



Antwort von Clemensch:

Post times the settings when you convert machst! Sounds very much to you after 16:9 konvertierst. (Bar left and right)



Antwort von NikoBellic:

Phew ... I think you're right, because I have always set.

But as synonymous when I say -> "Keep original size", the video resolution of the other.

I poste mal settings of Total Video

Video -> Xvid format, mode = bitrate Based / 3000 Kbps

Audio -> LAME MP3, resample = Original

Container -> AVI, Multiplexers = Automatic

Picture -> Resolution (hooks for Automatic), cutting = Disabled, frames per sec = 25, Ratio = Width of Display Aspect Ratio = 16, Height of Display = 9 Aspect Ratio, Pixel Aspect Ratio = 16:9 PAL

If I like the use WinAVI, so I leave the source is set to AUTO and then still comes s.Ende an equal aspect ratio out. Have there really been tried so much: (



Antwort von Clemensch:

ok then give a look at Picture On: Resolution (no car) but 720x576 and aspect ratio of 4:3.

Synonymous data, you can at least double after the top.

schöne Grüße
Clemens



Antwort von NikoBellic:

The same game in Green!

Right and left of the video, I have two huge beams and elongated heads. Even if I go to video in VLC, it will give me the black bars. Only when I go to Video -> Aspect ratio 16:9 or 16:10 dial, so the video is almost correctly.

I can not really explain the why the WMP video super show, even if the files are uncompressed.



Antwort von Clemensch:

really funny, I do such things usually with Hand Brake

http://handbrake.fr/?article=download

that's the only thing I can offer you more

schöne grüße
Clemens



Antwort von tommyb:

Uffff ...

So here is the AVI container with XviD used together which is now almost not at all with the aspect ratio to work with.



The source material is 16:9 DV, has a Resolutionvon 720x576 pixels and a 16:9 day. This means that the player that day out of the picture right: without eggs and broad heads.

XviD and AVI container of love can be so synonymous, but only very very few players support the completely autonomous. This means that an AVI file with a codec can XivD still so many entries in Aspect Ratio: the most players ignore das




The following solution for the problem:
s.AVI XviD and retain, but then the Resolutionauf 1024x576 set when encoding

b) as MPEG2 format

c) MP4 instead of AVI as a container to use. The aspect ratio embedded in MP4 files, usually. Most of the players included.








Antwort von NikoBellic:

My goodness ... the tip with solution A has a really clear direct result delivered!

I thank you sincerely for that!



Antwort von tommyb:

Gladly!



Antwort von NikoBellic:

I tick but again and hope that is OK, if I am not in favor of opening a new thread.

Which codec do I as probably the best picture quality, but the smallest size synonymous?

Have been synonymous with MPEG2 something rumgespielt and my einzubilden me that I would be a pretty good result obtained. If I remember correctly, I would have but it synonymous with little Konvertiererei can burn to DVD. I have a DVD player to the right has cost money, but no Xvid / DivX play. This time I had such a cheap player, but the noise of this player, I was almost driven into madness. That's why I love to renounce to this feature.

I have a portable DVD player and it should be but synonymous both MPEG2 and Xvid work (I am now strongly of times, without having extra nachgeschaut)

Which format gives me, then the best possible image quality at lower file size?

Thanks again!



Antwort von tommyb:

Is always dependent of the bitrate used.

MPEG2 only has a good image if the bitrate is correct. At least 6000kbit, or slightly less at 2pass coding.

XviD and MPEG4 ASP creates similar quality already at 3000 kbit / s (in theory, always comes to the content).

If you all for your expensive, non-compliant MPEG4 Player prepare, then you should choose MPEG2, with 720x576 pixels and 16:9 aspect ratio. This must be regarded as a real DVD burned, keywords: authoring. Good results should be here with the Nero Toolkit of will receive - it is very well suited.

For your portable synonymous then you can use these DVDs or you take XviD and AVI. The Resolutionsollte then 720x400, however, because these devices usually with resolutions higher than 720x576 are not clear (that is synonymous not 1024x576).




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