Frage von Maki:
Dear Slashcam,
dadrin my problem is that my professional future in the world of film-makers do, but I do not find the right entry ..
I can not simply between training and study to decide!
Me opinions are specifically the "old / self-employed veterans here in the forum interested in the turmoil, the film industry Warr imply.
What is now more in demand? Trainees or students? :)
Apart from that, I wanted to early next year, if the civilian is over, an internship at an advertising company that designed, however, the search is synonymous as a rather difficult because most are behind the names you will find the "letterbox companies" hide ...
So I'm still in search of reputable and prestigious advertising firms in the greater Cologne! Do you have suggestions?
Thank you very much!
mfg. Maki
Antwort von Lutz Dieckmann:
Hi,
So, I'm so half a real beginner ;-)) I would now do both. Training as a teaching and studying hintendran. Or vice versa. As it turns out. Then you have practical and theoretical training. On the way you learn a lot, who will help you.
That would be my choice. No studio in the world or the production of the world can do something with pure "makers" without knowledge or pure theory without practice knowledge theorists begin.
Greeting
Lutz
Antwort von PowerMac:
Training as a media designer Picture / Sound -> Regional television or Private (magazine area) than all-Arschloch
Studying Film -> Film and television director (mostly brotlos)
High work -> Film director or production assistant eternal
Nothing -> Employee at Sparkasse
Antwort von Steadycameraman:
Nothing -> Employee at Sparkasse : D: D: D
Antwort von Bespi:
Training as a media designer Picture / Sound -> Regional television or Private (magazine area) than all-Arschloch and how many there are because apprenticeship in Germany? 3?
In Austria, there is definitely not for teaching film.
therefore remains only private university / academy inside. (with the FHS are too superficial and usually have a film only as synonymous rand topic.)
Antwort von Steadycameraman:
Training is very hard to get, I think synonymous!
Antwort von masterseb:
there are probably teach in Austria. many film companies to make.
because one only needs to be behind it and print it and do not reflect too stupid. know of many, as the light-production apprentices or trainees begin.
have you durchfragen.
donauiniversität krems zb is very good. sae and co once a beginner. alone makes it an education was not always in a beginner.
most probably develop everything themselves learning by doing. So gather experience and really make a lot of work and then you chances synonymous to something higher to be taken.
training is 2.rangig. who wants to make movies, it finds and, if they are good publishers. invest in film, not teachers.
Antwort von klaas:
depending on what you want to make, so whether you prefer scenic / artistic or back office work like mäßig synonymous guck dir mal training for the clerk of audiovisual media in ...
mediengestalter azubi places, there are many, but synonymous at least twice as many competitors ...
gruß, klaas.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
;-)
Powermac has well summarized
;-)
But as there are so synonymous in Austria of the photographer because you can then synonymous well trained in the industry.
A media processing and then vocational study or 3 - 4 years .... so Practicas s.ehesten to get to the film.
Be flexible and not from the Big Money only dream anymore.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Bespi:
;-)
Be flexible and not from the Big Money only dream anymore. the big money you have already partially ;-) masterseb of the recommended donau "university" is synonymous costs 19,200 euro, just as I had found. so it is more expensive than the sae.
lg
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Hui the expensive ... na ja ich hab nur NEN NEN backpack and some Black Books with graffiti / with photos taken after Canada and hab mich da rumgeschlagen with all kinds of people.
Comb and then again I've said I do so now synonymous.
Money you need for everything, but I moved it to "Oh, I will now rotating films ranging and / or photographs or make ...."
Much ambitious and endurance and be ready for its new standard defenieren, in my view this brings success.
Money komt later and can be faster than synonymous deserves re-spent.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Maki:
Hello,
First, many thanks for all the answers!
Maybe I should wish to work but redefine Filmmakers is probably too general.
Actually it goes to commercials, image films!
Ideas develop and implement a cinematic ... this is my career aspirations!
Problem remains that I simply find no suitable studies, clearly there would be because, for example, communication design, but I am afraid that the cinematic aspect goes, or only briefly s.Rande processed.
Do you have other suggestions for an appropriate degree? "
Thank you very much!
Maki ..
Antwort von KrischanDO:
Moin,
FH Dortmund s.der there is the course of communication design.
In the context of the entire Bachelor / Master - reforms vigorously rebuilt:
http://www.fh-dortmund.de/de/fb/2/studium/studiengaenge/index.php
At the Advertising Academy Marquard (www.wam.de), there are also film courses.
A good way into advertising photography, with a folder full of own pictures in search of an internship to make. About the internship can be seen in purely assistantships slip.
A common way is through a few years in various assistant to the photographer's own studio. This includes the willingness of a few years more than 45 hours per week to work.
As for the advertising is, I do not know, but could be similar to go.
Regards
Christian
Antwort von tompacc:
How about with the film academy? At least in Austria, the academy is a state university. Only the recording is quite difficult to say many applicants for each course of study and 3-4 people will be taken. You have to decide between synonymous Camera, editing, script, Directing and Production.
What I know, there are in Germany in Berlin and one each in two other cities, but I've forgotten.
http://www.dffb.de/
http://www.mdw.ac.at/I111/html/
Antwort von PowerMac:
Young, correct information or not.
Those things are called "film schools" and not "film academies."
Copied from Wikipedia, where it is synonymous everyone should read:
State: German Film and Television Academy in Berlin, Berlin
Film Academy Baden-Württemberg, Ludwigsburg
Hamburg Media School, Hamburg
Academy for Television and Film Munich, Munich
School of Film and Television Potsdam, Potsdam-Babelsberg
Academy of Media Arts Cologne, Cologne
Private: International Film School of Cologne, Cologne
Antwort von newsart:
Hi - guck Dir mal practice studying the "video journalist" s.der media Hanseatisches Academy of Lübeck (HAML) to. Info, there's only there by phone, as the concept is still internal and starting only in 2009 s.den goes.
Then there's even a scaled-down entry-level variant: Assistant City Television. 5 months practice with the initial target IP-TV / NewTV. Learn more about this here: http://infobub.arbeitsagentur.de/kurs/index.html and then search for "City TV" input.
Antwort von x-ray:
Powermac need to know that he has been concerned with the issue of Film Academy and was employed unfortunately, not made.
So I recommend, despite all the times a look s.die FHS, the study design has been completely reformed and the issue of film can be studied virtually Full chosen (It focuses on three areas, such as animation, photography and film, etc.). However, it is not synonymous lightest reinzukommen as a section in advance is required!
Antwort von Misanthropoet:
Hello
I would s.deiner agency in any case, contacts with people trying to make (social networking, etc.), working in this field and to be honest, I am synonymous s.deiner place synonymous because I am planning something in that direction make.
I use the following ways:
Funding Organizations: Some years ago I came on student and school newspaper s.eine organization called CCN (Communication Consulting Network), the so-called Young Leaders seminars offer (completely free of charge and state-funded) which is always very closely with the media and media professionals working together. It comes directly to the personal interview, which is the conventional application is often denied.
My Projects + Junior Awards: There are many open competitions, in which ambitious young filmmakers to submit their works, of a jury can examine and perhaps be rewarded.
With me here in Sydney is the
VisionaleDas macht Spaß, man sammelt praktische Erfahrung, kann sich kreativ verwirklichen and hat bei einer Bewerbung gleich einen schönen Pluspunkt ;)
Auch hierrüber knüpft man mehr als genug Kontakte and teilweise werden als Prices synonymous Praktika vergeben.
information at the training sites
Many training facilities offer open days to be synonymous here with the people directly in contact.
The Munich Film Academy, for example, has s.24.1.09 open day and I will go there synonymous.
In Cologne, there is a film synonymous university and otherwise the Adolf-Kolping Vocational College, the somewhat synonymous in the direction of the film formed.
I hope I was able to help ...
Many greetings
Patrick
Antwort von robbie:
donauiniversität krems zb is very good.
sry, but of where I would not even take my secretary.
if the civilian is over
I think that was a synonymous error;). a director, with whom I often collaborate, and of whom I have much respect, once said that television is war. and I'm the general.
and, I must confess, my military training has given me in the TV business has often helped.
ok, this is a matter of principle. no preference. was just input.
my opinion:
try, a halfway usable equipment to get. (eg vx2100)
study, and incidentally make the assi at a production company.
movies, as much as possible, with your camera. and set the goals to what you see as assi.
scheiß the art. learn strictly in accordance with the rules. (because the military coming back into the game. You have to personally unterornden others can)
suck at everything, what you see / feel.
is my personal opinion.
subject to study. Fachhochschulen in Austria a few. but in my opinion after only one that you (free of charge, after passing the examination) synonymous know much conveys. it was subject to video and image synonymous to the shape of the corresponding dvd covers. information design is the keyword, and I recommend it without some bad! equal to the first google entry is a 100% - hits. and thou hast spaß synonymous nor s.der sache.
Tell me and I will forget, show me, and I understand WERS, let me make it, and I can WERS. that's my motto.
oh yes. until general have not yet brought ichs;)
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
depending on what you want to make, so whether you prefer scenic / artistic or back office work like mäßig synonymous guck dir mal training for the clerk of audiovisual media in ...
This is the modern name for tips in the film business.
mediengestalter azubi places, there are many, but synonymous at least twice as many competitors ...
You're very optimistic:) I get 200-300 applications every year just for this professional training, and I imagine 1-2 On. Most never get an apprenticeship in this job, and many overestimate the hoffnunglos.
If we as a media designer training in a company want to make the film not only cows, the competition is damn big. Abi with average below 2.5 will be with us, for example, immediately eliminated, as well as applications which are not properly in high-quality kit with all the documents plus work sample come. That sounds perhaps excessive, but it is the reality, already is because no one currently has 300 full applications to read, because it must be pragmatic quick presort, and the choice is based on these criteria are still too big.
MB
Antwort von robbie:
Abi with average below 2.5 will be with us, for example, immediately eliminated, as well as applications which are not properly in high-quality kit with all the documents plus work sample come. That sounds perhaps excessive, but it is the reality, already is because no one currently has 300 full applications to read, because it must be pragmatic quick presort, and the choice is based on these criteria are still too big.
MB
Totally your opinion.
My opinion: There are too many who believe they can do it, but have zero idea of toot and bubbles. (Is a saying ...)
