Infoseite // Experience with the new JVC GY-HM100



Frage von idrisi:


I've been 3 weeks, the new JVC GY-HM100 and wants (and after 14 days trying out here in sunny Greece) share some personal experiences and stimulate discussion:

Advantages:
- Light and handy for something more ambitious amateur film-maker;
- Great for travel, as small and modular
- 2 SD ports for recording data
- (Subjectively good image quality in Comparison to my old Sony FX1)
- Good low light - (behavior; with 9 and 18 dB gain)
- (Good Makrotele; up to about 40cm)
- Lots of manual options
- 2 XLR with phantom power for ext. Mic
- Modular structure: ext. Directional mic abnehmebar, detachable grip
- Mp4-files can be processed directly with EDIUS 5.1
- ...

I focus on the negatives, because the benefits and features are easily recognizable in the advertisement:
- High price (; about 3,500 ¬)
- OIS is not for the 3 user definable buttons
- AE shift, shutter and iris bit fiddly to set with buttons and slider-wheel
- Improvement (zoom rocker, a slow zoom with a constant speed a bit difficult)
- LCD a little too small, but otherwise OK
- Viewfinder can be synonymous with remote upright handle only up to about 45 °
- Relatively low battery power (; BN-VF823 about 1.5 h)
- Under high-light illumination differences, or slight it is difficult to get a good picture quality (but I still seek the "optimal" setting): rather harsh contrasts, bright image parts quickly overexposed (and my old FX1 has here produced smoother images)
- Fully automatic white balance right, but sometimes very slow when Standort-/Beleuchtungswechsel the first 2 sec of the first clips can be easily verfäbt Violet
- ... ?

I use the GY-HM100 is currently with the following features:
SDHC Class6 of Verbatim (; 16GB); Batteries BN-VF823, Wide Angle Converter Canon WD-H46 0.7x; Travel Tripod Manfrotto 785B.

To share experiences, I am very interested.

Sincerely,
idrisi

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Antwort von newsart:

Hello!

I'm considering to purchase for our VJ reporter JVC GY-HM100. In Globalmediapro does the Camera ¬ 2,200. The alternative would be Sony XDCAM EX1. To this end I would have some questions:

1. Where did you (the camera, you will still officially delivered in Germany only since last week)

2. Has anyone experience with Globalmediapro?

3. The price difference with Sony is 1:2. Sure größererChip, manual delegated Focus Blemdenring s.der Optics ... I understand. But when our orders would have a very small, almost amateurmäßig looking camera, synonymous its advantages. As you see it?

4. We work synonymous with EDIUS 5.11. What quality / parameters have the MP4 files, and runs exactly like the workflow (; to be cut because vorrm anything changed?)

Thank you very much!

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Antwort von idrisi:

1. Where did you (the camera, you will still officially delivered in Germany only since last week):

www.newi.de

2. Has anyone experience with Globalmediapro?

I do not

3. The price difference with Sony is 1:2. Sure größererChip, manual delegated Focus Blemdenring s.der Optics ... I understand. But when our orders would have a very small, almost amateurmäßig looking camera, synonymous its advantages. As you see it?

The HM100 is available modules: When an external mic and Henkel (; including audio unit) breaks down, it looks like a slightly larger amateur camera.

4. We work synonymous with EDIUS 5.11. What quality / parameters have the MP4 files, and runs exactly like the workflow (; to be cut because vorrm anything changed?)

Very simple with EDIUS 5.1x: Simply the mp4 files in the bin of EDIUS load off and it is, the mp4 files will stream as XDCAM EX (; identified containers).

MfG
idrisi


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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"newsart" wrote: GY-HM100 ... ... ... Globalmediapro At ¬ 2,200 ...
When Comparison noted, however: The price is without shipping, without Inch and no import tax!

"newsart" wrote: ... Would be an alternative SONY XDCAM EX1 ...
The EX1 is pretty much one step over it. Have you synonymous times the Panasonic HMC151 (; also drawn with SDHC card) or HPX171 (; with DVC PRO HD on P2) into consideration? To experiences with the latter, in video journalism gibts here to read a lot of practice to: http://www.r73.net/kategorie/hpx171/

"newsart" wrote: ... Has anyone experience with Globalmediapro? ...
Here in the forum are already some threads about this: As I recall, the consistently good experience. Even among American cameramen Globalmediapro is a popular equipment manufacturers.

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Antwort von jazzy_d:

What I do not begreiffe is that JVC is such a riff, I now tell me semi-pro equipment, building and no installs behind camera handling. Now, however, is to reconstruct something that then goes on the IR receiver of the action. I'm curious times. Anyone know anything more precise about it?

We already know (the native resolution of the CCDs, so will interpolated)?

Otherwise, of the manual setting and the Sony EX-mpeg2, I'm already somewhat synonymous Giggerig on the Cam. Got it s.der official European debut last week and s.der Professional Imaging in Zurich in the hands and I had absolutely imagine that for serious amateurs (; like me) or as a backup or Making-Off Cam making in professional productions could be fun.

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Antwort von gunman:

Hi,

I own the camera now for nearly 14 days and returned here yesterday of a holiday from Oman and the United Arab Emirates.

The camera is the hammer! Sure, it is not a panacea, because there is not.

I can connect me think of Idrisi fully in his post.
I bought the camera at the company Mediatec in Cologne, where I was treated as a "small customer" very good. Since I live in Luxembourg, I picked up the camera there in person 1 days before my departure. So I had little time to tryout, but it all went well.
I have 3 used 32 GB SDHC memory card and recording in MP4 mode with 1920 x 1080-50i.

The camera is for me the ideal travel camera, since before the purchase I tended to Sonyfx 1000 (, which is certainly not a bad camera is) but I've done in Oman experience that it is simply too great. A colleague who accompanied me filming with an old SonyVX 1000 (; is so not sooo big but ...) and he was forbidden to shoot more than once, with the ground, it should have no professional pictures are taken. In critical situations, I have always disassembled the handle and the camera looks like a normal "tourist camera".

I previously filmed with Mini DV - Canon XM 1 - which is synonymous not a bad camera, but the jump in quality is still enormous.
I cut on a quad core PC Packard Bell-editing program Videodelux Magix 15, but there are problems now, because I need to convert the files, but does not know yet exactly how and what. Maybe I can even give someone a good tip would be very grateful.
Anyway, I have the pictures now in the highest quality, synonymous if I currently have HDMI cable directly of the camera respectively. look on the JVC of small enclosed visualization program on the PC can.
In my opinion, there is currently no comparable camera of this size on the market. JVC Bravo!
Gunman

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Antwort von pailes:

I am interested in 720p/50-Modus. Can someone views a few sample clips upload somewhere? :-)

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Antwort von domain:

"idrisi" wrote:
... rather harsh contrasts, bright image parts quickly overexposed (and my old FX1 has here produced smoother images)
- Fully automatic white balance right, but sometimes very slow when Standort-/Beleuchtungswechsel the first 2 sec of the first clips can be easily verfäbt Violet
- ... ?


Is me in the previously shown test clips synonymous noticed. But the very different Gradationseinstellungen, particularly synonymous over the knee settings should be but one of the strengths of this action. How siehts because that from?
An automatic white balance is generally pretty useless because it can cause almost intractable problem to a Protestant Color correction in the NLE: color drift during the recording.
Therefore, a particularly poor auto white balance works in a Cam synonymous as quickly as possible, with virtually no unwanted inertia.

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Antwort von Reinhard S:

Quote: ... If one external mic and Henkel (; incl. Audio Unit) breaks down, ...
Additionally, the device has an internal Micro?

Thx

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Antwort von domain:

Sure, you can see it already on the images of the camera.

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Antwort von gunman:

"Reinhard S" wrote: Quote: ... If one external mic and Henkel (; incl. Audio Unit) breaks down, ...
Additionally, the device has an internal Micro?

Thx


Hi,
Besides that, the camera still has an internal Micro (; course with all the known drawbacks) synonymous You can still connect via mini-jack of any other micro.
For example, I via mini-jack A Bayer dynamics Mc cm connected 72nd
Then you can download the sound levels, but no more.
Gunman

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Antwort von idrisi:

I have in my start post my opinion, one important advantage: Forgot
Insb. for macro telephoto settings is facilitated by focusing into a feature set with one of the Viewfinder-/LCD-Picture on grayscale and sharp focus edges colored (Standard: see red). This Focus Assist - function in conjunction with the large focus ring can be focused macro shots very accurate - a lot of fun.


Even a comment on this point:
But the very different Gradationseinstellungen, particularly synonymous over the knee settings should be but one of the strengths of this action. How siehts because that from?
I have left so far, the knee function on automatics, but this is certainly an interesting field of experimentation. You can adjust the knee-point manual to 100%, 95%, 90% and 85%. I miss this but the experience. Can someone explain the times technologically?

An automatic white balance is generally pretty useless because it can cause almost intractable problem to a Protestant Color correction in the NLE: color drift during the recording.
Therefore, a particularly poor auto white balance works in a Cam synonymous as quickly as possible, with virtually no unwanted inertia.
I tried the manual synonymous (; semi-automatic) White Balance (; AWB button), you can specifically change even Rot-/Blau-Anteil. With patience and experience can be so sure heruasholen significantly more than in full (auto-white balance; FAW). In rapidly changing lighting situations, but for me it is very time consuming. My wife has been very patient anyway with me ...

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von gunman:

Hello Idrisi,

I would be interested with what editing program you are cutting the material and if you are converting files with what program and in what format?
How are your experiences with the editing of files?
I have the knee operation synonymous not yet used. Wanted in Oman to take any risks and played around too much s.den settings.
Like I said, the camera has certainly Before and disadvantages, but (in size, and this factor was decisive for me) I believe there is nothing better for the moment on the market.
Gunman

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Antwort von domain:

"idrisi" wrote:
I tried the manual synonymous (; semi-automatic) White Balance (; AWB button), you can specifically change even Rot-/Blau-Anteil. With patience and experience can be so sure heruasholen significantly more than in full (auto-white balance; FAW). In rapidly changing lighting situations, but for me it is very time consuming. My wife has been very patient anyway with me ...


In my opinion, is neither the one nor the other sense, but only the set presets for day-and artificial light.
Even in Petra, where virtually everything around it is of red sandstone, I've filmed with the daylight setting because it is at this almost unrealistic color mood seemed to me s.and which would be lost in a white balance. Something to repair the skin tones can then be synonymous nor later in the NLE.

In the HM-100 is supposedly a converter tool useful to an arbitrary choice between what the mpeg2. Mp4 container (and practically for Mac) as synonymous for. Pure in mpeg2. Mxf format as synonymous. M2t will allow.
So where does the problem lie? Any one can import this format, but each must NL editor.

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Antwort von idrisi:

Today I made time for some test shots and white balance to knee function (;) in clear sunny weather, drawn stills (; EDIUS in 5:11 by direct reading of the mp4 files without conversion) and compared these stills in 1:1 pixel size:

White balance (; sun half of back):
5600K preset and manual WA: no discernible differences
FAW: Colors at a very critical eye somewhat paler
In light differences in all three cases are not discernible.

knee function (; sun half of the back and back), with about 1 / 3 share of sky, foreground shrubs and trees:
Automatic, 95%, 85%: I see had (no differences, but these in the more exposed parts of expecting too bright)

How else could test to detect significant differences?

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von domain:

I would be positioned in the test with an unshaded light bulb, just ahead of a structured wall to make, but the lamp itself fully eclipsed, and the natural environment will be increasingly less eclipsed. Then snapshots from the clips and make assessment) (in Photoshop after the reduction of overall image brightness, pixel shift downward. Here, the coloration should be increasingly better with active knee in the direction of the light source are clearly visible, so outshone the full range without coloration around the lamp always smaller.

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Antwort von idrisi:

Windscreen (; dead cat) for the external Micro:

I have now found a suitable windbreak for the HM100, the ((or at least in my recent fan-tests) good results, returns instead of the original foam protection):

I have the windshield (near www.mikrofon windschutz.com purchased for 27.40 euros (; including postage), I have the long hair version, 10cm, light gray used). The fibers shorten by about 4cm (; so they do not in picture) come.

Perhaps we could improve the outcome yet, if you have a coat over the original foam windscreen protection moves (; standing Sky) - but I'm afraid that will affect the frequency of the desired signal is too strong.

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von Sunbank:

On my HM-100, I have the impression that the shots are too bright. If you then look at the histogram has indeed covered the whole range of tones but still the picture is too bright, it is missing in the middle of the field s.der tracing or you could say s.Kontrast synonymous. Experiments with Knee and Gamma are difficult since one of the built-in monitor, the differences are not particularly look.
Just as the pictures currently in the automatic mode, "come out of the box," do not like them.
Can anyone confirm and if so, what can you do?

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Antwort von domain:

To me what I've seen generally over-exposed to something. Put it simply the exposure times down to a certain value for all images.
In Waveformonitor should in any case, the (15-it line, often referred to as black) is defined for almost all shots are achieved, the levels are not synonymous, but underneath.

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Antwort von gunman:

"Sunbank" wrote: On my HM-100, I have the impression that the shots are too bright. If you then look at the histogram has indeed covered the whole range of tones but still the picture is too bright, it is missing in the middle of the field s.der tracing or you could say s.Kontrast synonymous. Experiments with Knee and Gamma are difficult since one of the built-in monitor, the differences are not particularly look.
Just as the pictures currently in the automatic mode, "come out of the box," do not like them.
Can anyone confirm and if so, what can you do?
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Hello,

Yes, exactly the impression I have synonymous. Perhaps someone has experience with the settings to solve the problem?
As it stands with a modified firmware by uploading may JVC? Such correction is not possible at all with firmware?

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Antwort von Sunbank:

If you read the instructions is to use the ND filter, said: "Turn on when shooting in bright outdoor environment." This statement is of course relative, since what is hell? On my FX7, a signal flashed on when you should turn the ND filter.
The ND filter, I had not used in my test shots. But of course, could be the cause. Only it's raining here in Munich, just so that I can not try it. A reduction of the gamma to -5 have with me at the moment the best effect for coherent images.

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Antwort von domain:

One can assume that for outdoor in normal daylight always at least the ND1 must be switched on. The exposure should not there be more than 1 / 100 Bl 5.6.
So slowly but I get the suspicion that the knee-setting works differently than originally intended, namely, raising only the mids and the highs can be influenced. While this would result in synonymous one knee, but a meaningless and ineffective.
This would be really interesting times following test: Camera set on a tripod and manual adjust the exposure so as to create a 100% zebra. Then hinzuschalten maximal knee. At that moment a part of the zebras would disappear immediately.
Result would interest me.

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Antwort von Sunbank:

Yes, with turned-ND filter and Gamma again reduced to 0, the result here, even with the gloomy weather much better.
The layman's terms Kneeeinstellung reduces the optical brightness of the image somewhat, but just know what I do behind the scenes, as silent as synonymous in the manual.
But your test is certainly helpful, I'm going to do.

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Antwort von idrisi:

"domain" wrote:
This would be really interesting times following test: Camera set on a tripod and manual adjust the exposure so as to create a 100% zebra. Then hinzuschalten maximal knee. At that moment a part of the zebras would disappear immediately.
Result would interest me.


I have this test once made on the fly (; without ND):
I see no changes in the Zebra - no preference which I employ people knee-values (; with manual shutter & iris).
Might try another time?

Incidentally, I switch it adds ND filter for outdoor shots ever - and only then think overexposure in the bright parts of the image, if there are large differences in brightness (; eg dark trees down - the sky above) - but for me that is synonymous to understand, as long as the measuring range are "whole picture" has.
I then regulates manual iris & shutter until the picture fits me about.

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von Reinhard S:

Is that really built-in stereo Micro for the unnoticed vacation snapshot (use; when unscrewed from handle) to? Zoom noise coming through?

Thx

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Antwort von idrisi:

"Reinhard S" wrote: Is that really built-in stereo Micro for the unnoticed vacation snapshot (use; when unscrewed from handle) to? Zoom noise coming through?
Thx


Yes that is right (well usable, but the stereo effect is, of course - as with all these built-in mics not - good), I have this internal mic yet seldom used, the sound is OK, of course, one notices in quiet environments the automatic Hochpegeln with corresponding noise and I have this internal mic for the wind filter turned on in order to reduce the worst noise of the wind. In my view, is of sufficient quality - although a bit worse than my FX1 with better positioning and size of the internal mic.

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von gunman:

"Sunbank" wrote: Yes, with turned-ND filter and Gamma again reduced to 0, the result here, even with the gloomy weather much better.
The layman's terms Kneeeinstellung reduces the optical brightness of the image somewhat, but just know what I do behind the scenes, as silent as synonymous in the manual.
But your test is certainly helpful, I'm going to do.


Hi,

I have the gamma control is now even being asked of default to OFF. Now the colors are absolutely crisp.
Gunman

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Antwort von domain:

Vibrant colors are always associated with a steep 1:1 gamma, while there is often a good tracing more synonymous in the highlights and shadows and the Hauttonabstufungen vote may not at all.
Even if the knee-setting should not provide the expected function, I would lay out to me with the help of the gamma setting and the overall exposure empirically, at least two settings. For a rather gloomy weather and harsh sunlight Lowlightaufnahmen and one for outdoors.
In the latter case possibly associated with gamma less a slight reduction of the exposure, but only so far up in the histogram or in Waveformonitor the Bitbereich to the value 15 is reached so black again. Thus, the exposure latitude in the direction lights will be extended again and it no longer plays so unnatural hard Hauttonabstufungen with now almost outshone white level, as I have seen them in the HM100 many times.

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Antwort von gunman:

Hello domain

Thanks for your post, but one thing I do not understand: you write a steep gamma setting is always responsible for vibrant colors but I have indeed made the gamma setting to OFF, that is NOT gamma, as the colors can then be crispy?
I am not a professional and perhaps understand something wrong or ..
Gunman

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Antwort von domain:

The question is what that means in the Gamma Off HM100. Just as you described it, it will probably lead to a higher gamma value. Overall, you'll get a sharper picture harder and probably synonymous.
However, remote diagnostics are difficult. One would have practically a whole range of settings in exactly the same lighting conditions to carry out and analyze it.
Perhaps now synonymous to understand why such a variety of settings in Konsumerkameras does not exist because the sum of the correlations not just with the broad knowledge of the population is, in particular the very important information on gamma and contrast with their consequences.
Can not be on such a professional camera really played the way it is entitled Without this instrument would be enhanced photographic knowledge.

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Antwort von gunman:

"domain" wrote: The question is what that means in the Gamma Off HM100. Just as you described it, it will probably lead to a higher gamma value. Overall, you'll get a sharper picture harder and probably synonymous.
However, remote diagnostics are difficult. One would have practically a whole range of settings in exactly the same lighting conditions to carry out and analyze it.
Perhaps now synonymous to understand why such a variety of settings in Konsumerkameras does not exist because the sum of the correlations not just with the broad knowledge of the population is, in particular the very important information on gamma and contrast with their consequences.
Can not be on such a professional camera really played the way it is entitled Without this instrument would be enhanced photographic knowledge.


Ok Thanks,

Then I just play next in the Regionalliga.
But thanks for your post.
Gunman

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Antwort von Harald_123:

"domain" wrote:
So slowly but I get the suspicion that the knee-setting works differently than originally intended, namely, raising only the mids and the highs can be influenced. While this would result in synonymous one knee, but a meaningless and ineffective.
This would be really interesting times following test: Camera set on a tripod and manual adjust the exposure so as to create a 100% zebra. Then hinzuschalten maximal knee. At that moment a part of the zebras would disappear immediately.
Result would interest me.

This is not quite so simple. If the zebra is, for example, at a value of 80%, which is indeed the case usually will be, there is no disappearance of the zebra. For the "knee" at levels of 85% can be set to 100% or a car.

See instructions for GY-HM100 on pages 34 and 59th
Quote: "Knee: Determines whether the" knee function is executed. "This video signals that exceed a certain level will be compressed to generate tones in the highlighted Brreich too. ..."
And so is synonymous.

It may be better to make two pictures of a scene with harsh contrasts with and without a clear "knee" to this and then to the Comparison of two timelines set directly over each other.

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Antwort von idrisi:

Also I am not a professional - but certainly learn something interesting.

On the subject of gamma brings here a link to Wikipedia, the numerous details:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gammakorrektur

On the subject knee ich mal uahabe uploaded an excerpt from the manual that shows my opinion that the knee function properly "should function normally."

The problem is that I / we s.dem relatively small LCD in the viewfinder and the impact of the change of parameter values does not / can hardly recognize. Thus the issues around proper test shots unwell. I once looked at our friends across the Atlantic (; http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/jvc-gy-hm-series-camera-systems/). There have regarding the image quality and recommended parameter, unfortunately, found no evidence of subsidence.

I have looked through some time now 4h material (; mostly full sun):
The image quality is usually (very good) for my needs. Only in very widely different lighting conditions and light, there are (problems, over-exposed to light parts or whole scene / too little detail). I used this: Knee = Auto, gamma = standard gamma = Normal, Cinema Color Matrix = Clear colors, AE = 0 or slightly negative.

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von idrisi:

"Harald_123" wrote:
It may be better to make two pictures of a scene with harsh contrasts with and without a clear "knee" to this and then to the Comparison of two timelines set directly over each other.


What do you mean with "clear knee": 85% or 100%?

MfG Idrisi

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Antwort von domain:

"Harald_123" wrote:
This is not quite so simple. If the zebra is, for example, at a value of 80%, which is indeed the case usually will be, there is no disappearance of the zebra. For the "knee" at levels of 85% can be set to 100% or a car.


That is correct. If the correlation Knee -% with the zebra -%, then that would mean that the buckling of the knee could be determined in accordance with the onset of some zebra.
Ie Kneefunktion would s.ausgeprägsten at 85% and, of course, would need at 100% zebra, a pronounced effect be identifiable.

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Antwort von Harald_123:

"idrisi" wrote:
What do you mean with "clear knee": 85% or 100%?

85%. In order to fully see through the thing, better to try all values. Then you really know for the future, how it works.

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Antwort von idrisi:

"Harald_123" wrote:
85%. In order to fully see through the thing, better to try all values. Then you really know for the future, how it works.


I have knee with different values for 7/8-Wolkenbedeckung without (direct sun and relatively dark foreground; tested trees).
Between knee = 85% and 100%, and knee-automatic I see (; at 1920x1080 still in 1:1) really no difference. With a lot of imagination you could see the clouds at 85% better than anything durchzeichnet.

How then could test it yet?
Has anyone other / same practical experience as / like me?

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von Harald_123:

"idrisi" wrote:
How then could test it yet?

Is your monitor with these bright spots for yet again drawing? When (not, eg because he is not calibrated), the nonlinear decrease in brightness by a fixed larger amount. Then Comparison structures are more synonymous with lower quality monitors assessable.

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Antwort von idrisi:

"Harald_123" wrote:
Is your monitor with these bright spots for yet again drawing? When (not, eg because he is not calibrated), the nonlinear decrease in brightness by a fixed larger amount. Then Comparison structures are more synonymous with lower quality monitors assessable.


I have calibrated the monitor with a test image of Burosch.
The only major difference I notice that the picture at 100% is generally a little darker than 85% - the coloration of the clouds, I think in both cases, relatively realistic. The problem with testing could be that I do it outside in sunlight (; ieS therefore have no fixed terms).
Now I'll just go on with times knee = auto.
Thanks for the great tips.

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von Reinhard S:

Is this the ultimate vacation Cam? How effective is the Image Stabilization?

Thx

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Antwort von idrisi:

"Reinhard S" wrote: Is this the ultimate vacation Cam? How effective is the Image Stabilization?

Thx


I believe that the HM100 (very well suited for travel; justification see Page 1 top).

The image stabilization works well in my opinion - of course he can (; offset as with all cams) with focal increases the shaking less and less. When panning with Tripod, he should always be turned off (or else) streaking; for stationary telephone with Tripod (; without the pan & zoom), I let him.

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von Reinhard S:

Does your really loud single clips - or you let the Cam recordings together add? And what does it make sense that sets the cam every little clip in a separate folder (;?) - Even when copying is a bit cumbersome.

Thx
Reinhard

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Antwort von gunman:

Hi,
I've tried both options. At the moment I do not know exactly, how should I do because I still have no real Durchblick the files to convert. I currently still use Magix Video deluxe 15 premium, and this program can not read MP4 files.
I have Sony Vegas herunergelanden 9 as a test version, there is easy, but you're right, with the many folders I have still problems synonymous. When the camera lies a conversion tool but synonymous in there I do not know how to convert all the files together.
The camera is not amateurs in the strict sense, and you have to deal with it. The handling of the camera, I have intus, (; is relatively easy) but the workflow for further processing, since I would be grateful for any tip. As for the quality of the recordings, no problem.
There is still much to do to pack on wirs.
Gunman

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Antwort von domain:

"gunman" wrote:
... with the many folders I have still problems synonymous. When the camera lies a conversion tool but synonymous in there I do not know how to convert all the files together.


That is every single video file in a separate folder, which is the smallest problem. About the search and copy function in Windows Explorer you can blow it on a filter and copy them to a shared folder.
Would be really interesting times finally know exactly what format to convert the JVC conversion tool can. It is indeed synonymous. M2t or. Mpg while its synonymous and this format you can edit in Magix.
The fact that this conversion is working in batch mode for all selected files so accept be strong, everything else would be a joke.
Would be nice if you're dealing with hard times and the possibilities would then report.

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Antwort von pilskopf:

Can synonymous times Download Video Pro X, the Trail, 30 days can do everything you want. Which reads to me every file that I want and is quite stable, better than the 15

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Antwort von idrisi:

My workflow looks very simple:
Search from the Win-Explorer on all mp4 files on the SDHC and copy all of the cutting machine. Importing into my editing program EDIUS 5.11 (; without conversion).

It is synonymous synonymous, a freely available conversion tool that probably solves your problems:
www.mik-digital.de/tool/ ® MP4toMPG_v2.exe
It was written of Michael Schleider - a very experienced staff of www.digitalschnitt.de

There you find synonymous another possible solution:
EDIUS NEO V2 - a stripped down version of 5.11. for 149 euros.
This should enable synonymous (go without conversion, but I have not tested). Ask them easy to time at: 0800 3884336.

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von Reinhard S:

"idrisi" wrote: ... Importing into my editing program EDIUS 5.11 (; without conversion)
Exactly the way synonymous hovers before me - the fix is already ordered ;-).

Nevertheless, it is not clear whether I should leave the clips alone store or add clip continuous "- I am afraid that after a 3-week vacation X.000 individual clips may cause problems. Or?

Reinhard

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Antwort von idrisi:

Still with problems of exposure:

Under high illumination differences (in the scene, sunshine, foreground right & & left the forest, middle & top of heaven, ND on, preset = 5600K), I get highly overexposed images.
- AE shift to -2/-3 = gamma curve is fairly standard, alternatively, with Spotlight - similar result as AE shift;
- Shrink goes measuring frame and sent to the bright parts of pictures, but then the dark parts are very dark;
- Knee = 85 hardly brings improvement
- Gamma-OFF curve makes that picture very dark (; like AE shift -5/-6)
- Gamma curve = standard or cinema with a negative gamma value is difficult to bring visible improvement
- Iris and / or modify the shutter goes, but the results are similar to the AE shift.

Of course, I use Zebra (; set in my 70-90), but sometimes can not handle scenes with strong light contrasts.
My old FX1 (; set brings 1440x1080 50i) in similar settings, more balanced picture than the HM100 (; 1920x1080 50i).

What experiences have you regarding such overexposure?

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von idrisi:

"Reinhard S" wrote:

Nevertheless, it is not clear whether I should leave the clips alone store or add clip continuous "- I am afraid that after a 3-week vacation X.000 individual clips may cause problems. Or?

Reinhard


I produce and import only fundamentally separate clips, on average, I trim it anyway (yet, because I'll usually shoot at the front and rear lot of "meat") - it costs (nothing on holiday I take my prtable 500GB disk with Netbook with; a 16GB SDHC with 3 I get), then no problems. Bzgl. the number of clips I could not imagine a real problem.

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von jazzy_d:

The cam can continuos? Ist ja mal geil!

I like solving workflow where I can rummflitzen in a large file and want to put parts on the timeline with in / out much better than "thousands" of individual clips.

The part is I always likeable.

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Antwort von Reinhard S:

"idrisi" wrote: ... I get very overexposed pictures .... What experiences have you regarding such overexposure?
We had no sunshine - the weather's gloomy fits. How / where is your gain switch?

Reinhard

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Antwort von Reinhard S:

"jazzy_d" wrote: The cam can continuos? Ist ja mal geil!
Something is just stupid, that while the display shows the color of the start / stop control, only changes between red and orange, to identify what is worse - red / green wär 'I prefer.

Btwy - the SD cards funz in my old, existing card reader does not synonymous not 2 years old in the holiday Vaio - It seems necessary for cards> 2 GB of new readers. But one is synonymous with a USB cable to the cards in the action - and even gets a drive letter assigned (; copy goes away, not) to delete.

Reinhard

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Antwort von Reinhard S:

"idrisi" wrote: ... I get very overexposed pictures .... What experiences have you regarding such overexposure?

We now have sunshine - the first, short test out, I feel the recording as synonymous with bright (-; ND one, otherwise to Automatic). Have now, unfortunately no time to play next ...

Reinhard

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Antwort von idrisi:

"Reinhard S" wrote:
We had no sunshine - the weather's gloomy fits. How / where is your gain switch?

Reinhard


In these test conditions, of course, gain = 0dB, because it can not lie.

MfG Idrisi

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Antwort von idrisi:

(Stills as examples for (; over-) exposure, all with ND = On):

I've uploaded are some examples (; unprocessed 1929x1080)
HM100 5 AE = 0.jpg: Overexposure of the picture
HM100 5 AE =- 3.jpg: Foreground Ok, sky too bright
HM100 5 AE =- 5.jpg: sky goes a bit too dark foreground

Here's an extreme example (; everything set to auto):
HM100 4 Autom.jpg:

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von idrisi:

"Reinhard S" wrote:

Btwy - the SD cards funz in my old, existing card reader does not synonymous not 2 years old in the holiday Vaio - It seems necessary for cards> 2 GB of new readers. But one is synonymous with a USB cable to the cards in the action - and even gets a drive letter assigned (; copy goes away, not) to delete.

Reinhard


For SD you need special cardreader, I use an SDHC <> USB.

MfG idirisi

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Antwort von domain:

@ Idrisi
So the lens of the HM100 indeed seems to be a class of its own. Hardly CA and little glare even in bright areas to fine details. Sharpness is also excellent for 1 / 4 "sensors.
Have you actually have a preset for hard zurechtgelegt sunlight?
Match Match gamma minus, and very importantly, at the same exposure minus, and knee to 85%

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Antwort von Reinhard S:

"idrisi" wrote: (Stills as examples for (; over-) exposure, all with ND = On):

Hello Irdisi,

I've got some sun now used for some tests - I can understand the over-exposure in auto mode!

Despite attitudes ND = 1, Gain = L, automatic everything is emotionally too bright - and I've been sick zebra in green lawns and old, mitteldunklen concrete slabs. I've then a> gray card <
Only if one makes the aperture by 2 stages (; Aperture = 1) less (; Iris & fix = reduce) 2 steps, disappears the zebra on the gray card.

Means to me: the exposure is at least 1 Aperture wrong!

"domain" wrote: ... while exposure minus, and knee to 85%
Turn the negative to flat-rate exposure, eliminated I consider a "headache tablets action" and now is not the cause of the problem.

Would be nice if other people could do to some tests.

Reinhard


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Antwort von domain:

You're writing saying that the exposure in auto mode is Aperture about one beside it, which comes in the best families before and is not grounds for a complaint.
If we now take back some of the gamma value, then there is no real blacks (more, it is synonymous in the manual excerpt pictured above, next). Only when the exposure is reduced somewhat synonymous, there is again a black and at the same time outshone the lights to come good.

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Antwort von idrisi:

Reinhard S & @ @ domain:

Thanks, that are valuable tips.
Please go out and I again invite stills high.
Unfortunately, we currently have little harsh sun.

With non-CAs and the sharpness I see the synonymous, especially concerning whether the sharpness of the HM100's (much better than my old FX1, or is the only s.Unterschied 1920x1080 to 1440x1080?).
Only with hard light, it is synonymous with the squishy HM100.

I will indeed synonymous not unreasonable complain - but get the most out of the action.

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von Reinhard S:

"domain" wrote: You're writing saying that the exposure in auto mode is Aperture about one beside it, which comes in the best families before and is not grounds for a complaint.
I wrote "... at least ..." - Absence of any imaging tests. With a Cam by 3.5 n.seh 'I have considered not in order.

-----

12 clock high noon, sun shöchsten, lush green lawns, medium gray concrete blocks, interspersed with a gray card, ND = 1, Gain = L: the Cam believes that Aperture 5.6 would be correct. I take this exposure situation, the iris aperture 8 (; = turn off by 1.5 f-stops) so that the zebra vanishes on the gray card! The zebra is set only at 70-80% ... thus making the error is more than 1.5 stops.

Aperture wider than 8, I can not turn off.

I'll make me nice and slow worried whether I can turn the Cam synonymous in the Caribbean for white sand sufficiently dark. Davorschrauben with neutral density filter to take, like in the old snow? *)

Reinhard


*) I am well aware that we have with the exposure time is still room ;-).

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Antwort von idrisi:

"Reinhard S" wrote:
I'll make me nice and slow worried whether I can turn the Cam synonymous in the Caribbean for white sand sufficiently dark. Davorschrauben with neutral density filter to take, like in the old snow? *)

*) I am well aware that we have with the exposure time is still room ;-).


Then I would make me not so worried: It probably depends very much of the cut-off differences.
I have not shared by 2 examples that I have (made in full sun, 11 clock) and an automatic exposure - but it looks good.

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von Reinhard S:

Hi,

We had sun again and I've rotated a series of scenes - including the white garden wall. Got from the Clips' (I, not the absence of existing HD-capable editing software) using the Cam-Photo function creates screenshots and considered that very JPGs in Photoshop's histogram of - knotless.

Let us hunt of a peculiar set Zebra and a slightly too-bright monitor in Boxhorn?

I've got at least the zebra now set so that it appears only at 95-100%.

Has anyone else still input in this regard?

Reinhard

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Antwort von idrisi:

"Reinhard S" wrote:

Let us hunt of a peculiar set Zebra and a slightly too-bright monitor in Boxhorn?

I've got at least the zebra now set so that it appears only at 95-100%.

Has anyone else still input in this regard?

Reinhard


I once looked on English-language pages.
Abundant references to image quality I have not found - all of which seem to be satisfied.
I'm going to monitor this link:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/jvc-gy-hm-series-camera-systems/237464-need-advice-hm100-best-latitude-settings.html

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von Reinhard S:

Has anybody seen into the audio part?
[list = * [1:7153 be9858]: give 7153be9858] Leaving now the audio reference level to -20 or more to -12, so as not too much? [*: 7153be9858] Is it true that the internal stereo mic (; on XLR and when switched on) and is an automatic audio control (and only) about 3.5-mini-jack is not auto Driven? [*: 7153be9858] If the microphone level adjustment synonymous effective or necessary if the automatic mode (; via XLR connector will work)? That is, since what needs to be adjusted? [/ List: o: 7153be9858]
Btwy: it is known whether one can replace the microphone stand - against a fit where purely thicker mics? Or (for an extra-hot shoe, then my Beyerdynamic Micro Adapter EA19/25 would fit and clean up the shoe still) remain for a lamp.

Thx

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Antwort von gunman:

HI

Bin synonymous s.Probieren yet. In quieter surroundings, respectively. normal environment, the moment I turn to - 12 DB:

Both the internal mic as synonymous with a mini jack connected over 3.5 Micro will automatically Driven. You can only adjust the microphone sensitivity in the Camera Rose. Manually auspegeln is only with the s.Mikrofonhalter (connected via XLR mics, the original micro or Fremdmikro is no preference).

Your question regarding dikerer clamp microphone holder and I would be synonymous interssieren, because I have a Beyerdynamich MCE 72 CAM.
Gunman

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Antwort von Reinhard S:

I've filmed today (with an award, speech, applause ...), -20 dB, Beyerdynamic MCE 72 to XLR and automatic. The Audio Control Room received by applause and loud noise often in the red zone - which shocked me for now. How high the level is now actually, but I can not check (and the cut-SW is s.Postweg). Hörkontrolle is OK

>> Your question regarding microphone holder and clamp dikerer'd be synonymous interssieren <<

I've got the time my dealer next run - watch me, if / when a response comes.

Reinhard

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Antwort von Reinhard S:

"Reinhard S" wrote: I've filmed today (with an award, speech, applause ...), -20 dB, Beyerdynamic MCE 72 to XLR and automatic. The Audio Control received by the applause ... often in the red zone ......
Meanwhile, I had the opportunity to load the video into an editing program to - the level actually goes into the red zone. If the Automatic Level not be kept in the green zone?

As you look out at the level in a noisy environment, if you take on Automatic via XLR?

Reinhard

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Antwort von domain:

Is normal, because the red zone just beginning well below 0 DB.
Only when the red zone may be exceeded may lead to an overload, but that is not to be overheard. The sound awful then crumble before her.

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Antwort von Reinhard S:

The Level IST editing program temporarily to zero dB!

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Antwort von domain:

That's OK, just makes the JVC HD40. Sometimes I thought to myself at a recording level meter with a red already, na servas, which will be fully overridden.
No trace of it in the NLE, keep going sometimes to 0 DB, but also the inclusion of automatic controls appear from mercilessly, so it comes to clipping None. If the background noise, however, be ongoing so loud, I would switch to a lower level.
In the NLE itself, incidentally, I consider the average of the sum of all the soundtracks always s.der border to the red area, which are with me -9 dB, and of course there are occasional peaks up to almost 0 DB (: this is so then about the volume level of commercials on TV)
If you feel even more "mistakes" in the JVC HM100, then reports us about it :-)

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Antwort von Sunbank:

Come straight back of a vacation with the HM100. Fortunately, we had bright sunshine all over so that the camera had to really prove himself. My settings were ND and AE -2, because I avoided in most cases, the clipping in the highlights.
As before, the shots are bright, but something with a Levels in the NLE, but it's true then. Gamma compensated for in the cinema, although a little bit, but I have the impression that then the picture is blurred.
Image quality is otherwise fine, really super sharp. Even with the LowLight behavior, I am satisfied, is in strong twilight no noise - and if you have darker, more movies, I do not ;-)
Once someone has actually already contacted JVC because of the bright vote?

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Antwort von gunman:

Once someone has actually already contacted JVC because of the bright vote? [/ quote]

Hello,
That would interest me synonymous. Do you think that it is possible with an updated firmware, the setting (to change; JVC would of course have the same opinion as ...)? You can help themselves through the self-adjustments very well, but a new calibration would be permanently set vielliecht easier to handle.
Gunman

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Antwort von Sunbank:

I just see. A new firmware could eliminate determines whether one but himself could be uploading the question.

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Antwort von idrisi:

I contacted JVC because of exposure problems. The answer was unfortunately not very helpful:
"It can come in adverse Lichtverhältissen to glare at the Studio. As for overexposure warning, the camera has the zebra function. With the Programmed AE can adjust the camera s.extreme light conditions. Without AE Autom.kann one still
the video level with-KNEE (; Manual)-GAMMA-GAMMA LEVEL influence.
These settings once s.besten test itself.
The modified values can be stored (; EXT 1, EXT-4) "

I have since zebra set at 90-over and make sure that as few jobs are overexposed, with AE shift of -1 to -3 which works quite well (; at ND = On and Auto Knee.). I have (on attitudes EXTN synonymous with Knee = 85% and modified gamma; laid -3). That brings something very hard to light, but the small disadvantage is that loading a new presets (; EXTN) of each camcorder reboots - it takes a little.
I am now (with the exposure;) satisfied at Central European sun, sometimes it works now towards underexposure, if you do not pay attention to the AE shift. That is why I do this only through the viewfinder.

I'm synonymous with JVC for a software update requested - no reply to the tech. Customer service in Friedberg / Hessen.
I do not think very customer friendly.
Perhaps we should have a common plan email campaign.

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von gunman:

I've ch synonymous with JVC for a software update requested - no reply to the tech. Customer service in Friedberg / Hessen.
I do not think very customer friendly.
Perhaps we should have a common plan email campaign.



Good idea, since I was in immediately.
Gunman

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Antwort von Sunbank:

The problem with the whole Probiererei is that one in the viewfinder or display can not see clearly. So you have to consider each case the s.TV. Then you think an appropriate and prompt setting is on lighting conditions or other reasons have everything quite differently.
My previous average of the above has worked well so far and the rest I do in the NLE.
But with the JVC price could be somewhat more cooperative.
'm Excited when appearing in the press, the first test reports and determine whether the synonymous then this problem.

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Antwort von zueriman:

I agree with the test results of idrisi largely the same. With one exception: Lowlight. The lowlight performance of the camera are catastrophic! The camera is actually dämmerblind. Some consumer Billigstkamera in the early nineties was licktstärker.

Sure, if you like the camera raufpumpt idrisi to 9 or 18 dB, then you can shoot in low light conditions synonymous. Image noise is then not so much that the Aunahme are absolutely useless. I've never seen so noisy images! So: Stay away from Gainschalter-and if they did, then more than 9dB.

Otherwise, the camera is highly recommended!

My detailed test of the GY-HM100 and a big sister to http://forum.slashcam.de/kurztest-vergleich-jvc-gy-hm100-and-gy-hm700-vt72494.html GY-HM700

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Antwort von idrisi:

"zueriman" wrote:
Sure, if you like the camera raufpumpt idrisi up at 9 or 18 dB, then you can shoot in low light conditions synonymous. Image noise is then not so much that the Aunahme are absolutely useless. I've never seen so noisy images! So: Stay away from Gainschalter-and if they did, then more than 9dB.


Even with Gain = 0dB, I could dimly lit churches in n-making still good usable shots. Gain = 9dB brings my impression is also still useful results, and of course we see in the image noise 18dB already clear.
Comparison to my old SonyFX1 I think the lowlight capabilities of HM100, despite the smaller image sensors are not dramatically worse.
However, I can only judge visually subjectively.
Lowlight shots without additional lighting are just always suboptimal. But sometimes the mood is more interesting than the good lighting.

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von zueriman:

Lowlight problem of HM100: Diesr clip says it all. No Comparison to SonyEX3, which accrues on such Lichtverhätnissen to top form. Got questions? ;-)
Sorry for the blurry pictures test, but the poor quality of lowlight the camera I was so shocked that I no longer felt like unpacking the tripod.
Lowlight Clip:


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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"zueriman" wrote: ... Lowlight problem of HM100: Comparison of SonyEX3 ... No ...
1/4-Inch vs. 1/2-inch, CCD vs.. CMOS, 3500 Euro vs. $ 8000: So that the HM100 Comparison with this very old look, but it is no surprise, right? Would have been meaningful as a test against the V1.

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Antwort von zueriman:

"Bernd E." wrote: "zueriman" wrote: ... Lowlight problem of HM100: Comparison of SonyEX3 ... No ...
1/4-Inch vs. 1/2-inch, CCD vs.. CMOS, 3500 Euro vs. $ 8000: So that the HM100 Comparison with this very old look, but it is no surprise, right? Would have been meaningful as a test against the V1.


Unfortunately, I had a similar, though not quite so blatant experience with making the big sister of the HM100, namely with the HM700. JVC has launched the HM700 as a direct Konkurrrenz to SonyEX3! Since I work with Windows, I can show you here, unfortunately, no Testclip because WM700 without accessories only mov files produced, which are not kopmatibel with the Windows world.

As always synonymous: I have no brand preferences. I am currently looking for simply the best HDTV-Cam with memory cards, which will cost a maximum of 10,000 euros. So far I have two JVC (cameras, tested HM100 and HM700), and the SonyEX3. At the moment when I realized the EX3 has to be ahead. Main reasons:
- The Lowlightqualität is breathtaking
- The chromatic aberration in the EX3 is barely visible because it is apparently digitally subtracted during the recording.
- The camera is in opposite to the JVC-HM700 an optical Image Stabilization and Auto Focus.
- The EX3 is handy, although the JVC-700 with its shoulder approach is more ergonomic than the half-shoulder approach EX3. In the EX3 with a shoulder so it can stand to be made competitive, however.

At the Sony EX3 actually speaks only the proprietary SxS card system, which requires sauteur SxS cards. Since the SD-card solution of JVC has been brilliant!

Perhaps someone even gave me a tip, what else would a camera still in question.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"zueriman" wrote: ... JVC has launched a direct HM700 to Konkurrrenz !!... SonyEX3
I suspect that is prepared Sonynicht too many sleepless nights have ;-)

"zueriman" wrote: ... At the moment when I realized the EX3 has to be ahead of me .... Maybe someone has even a hint, what else would a camera still in question ...
The EX3 was came in spite of the strange design synonymous my favorite - to the Panasonic HPX301. Although I am not a fan of Panasonic and very, very reluctant to switch to P2 cards would, it seems to me at the moment the best compromise in this class. Who else is already offering size of DV to AVC-I 100 in a right shoulder camcorder under $ 10,000? The lowlight, however, it is not synonymous approached s.The EX3, and that slows my euphoria or something. If you Image Stabilization and AF are important, then, of course, leaves synonymous.

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Antwort von idrisi:

"zueriman" wrote: Since I work with Windows, I can show you here, unfortunately, no Testclip because WM700 without accessories only mov files produced, which are not kopmatibel with the Windows world.


Conversion of mov files to mpg:
www.mik-digital.de>> MP4toMPGv3.exe

MfG idirsi

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Antwort von gunman:

Hi,
Alsobei allerm Respect: You are constantly comparing apples with this Buirnen to!!
Gunman

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Antwort von domain:

With the EX1 that they would not be able to keep with was clear, but worse than the FX7 as with their 1 / 4 "chips, it will not be good.
Find the shots in http://www.vimeo.com/4419535 actually quite useful.
It is not necessary that a camcorder in the twilight sees more than the human eye, such as the EX1. It looks unnatural.

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Antwort von Sunbank:

Now had a direct Comparison Canon HV20 and HM100 and can not confirm the negative judgments regarding LowLight. The HV20 was worse classes. The photographs of the HM100 in automatic setting not even rushing while the HV20 visible noise.
That to the phrase "any consumer camera is better"
Ifs is even darker, I do not make movies or on the light. ;-)

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Antwort von zueriman:

"idrisi" wrote: "zueriman" wrote: Since I work with Windows, I can show you here, unfortunately, no Testclip because WM700 without accessories only mov files produced, which are not kopmatibel with the Windows world.


Conversion of mov files to mpg:
www.mik-digital.de>> MP4toMPGv3.exe

MfG idirsi


Thanks for the tip. I'll try that!

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Antwort von zueriman:

"gunman" wrote: Hi,
Alsobei allerm Respect: You are constantly comparing apples with this Buirnen to!!
Gunman

So if the Comparison SonyEX3 and one JVC HM700 Comparison between apples and pears, then please turn away ... s.JVC who launched the HM700 as EX3 competition.
Request for substantive review, and if you ever want to be polemical, then please tell me what you exactly mean.

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Antwort von zueriman:

"domain" wrote: With the EX1 that they would not be able to keep with was clear, but worse than the FX7 as with their 1 / 4 "chips, it will not be good.
Find the shots in http://www.vimeo.com/4419535 actually quite useful.
It is not necessary that a camcorder in the twilight sees more than the human eye, such as the EX1. It looks unnatural.


My friends, the video tapes is not a hobby of mine, but my profession. So I'm relying on top-quality products without compromise! Sure, bulky for 30,000 euros gibts corresponding products. However, I need a camcorder, for which we train not only for the bodybuilding championship in order to contribute more than the part synonymous to 15 minutes.

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Antwort von zueriman:

"Sunbank" wrote: Now had a direct Comparison Canon HV20 and HM100 and can not confirm the negative judgments regarding LowLight. The HV20 was worse classes. The photographs of the HM100 in automatic setting not even rushing while the HV20 visible noise.
That to the phrase "any consumer camera is better"
Ifs is even darker, I do not make movies or on the light. ;-)


And once again, my friends, the video tapes is not a hobby of mine, but my profession. So I'm relying on top-quality products without compromise! Sure, bulky for 30,000 euros gibts corresponding products. However, I need a camcorder, for which we train not only for the bodybuilding championship in order to contribute more than the part synonymous to 15 minutes.

By the way. Tests at the moment once again the EX3. Will you be presenting lowlight test clips, which show that it is synonymous hinkriegt natural results in low light.

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Antwort von gunman:


So if the Comparison SonyEX3 and one JVC HM700 Comparison between apples and pears, then please turn away ... s.JVC who launched the HM700 as EX3 competition.
Request for substantive review, and if you ever want to be polemical, then please tell me what you exactly mean. [/ Quote]


Ok,

I'm agree with you when you with your statements and the Comparison between EX3 JVC HM you meant 700th These two cameras are similar synonymous for me.
But you have compared with the small EX3 Should HM 100, then I stand by my statements: comparing apples with pears.
Gunman

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Antwort von zueriman:



Ok,

I'm agree with you when you with your statements and the Comparison between EX3 JVC HM you meant 700th These two cameras are similar synonymous for me.
But you have compared with the small EX3 Should HM 100, then I stand by my statements: comparing apples with pears.
Gunman [/ quote]
Gunman 1:0 for you :-). The HM100 I actually had (rather than complementary, assessed as a second camera). But if even in lowlight sense, then I am saving my money better. Had 12 or 13 years time a Panasonic DV camera amateurs, which was then judged as "Queen of the Night" (; looked like a water pipe). She was really outstanding and it comes to lowlight for me in this regard is still a reference. So since you will probably be professional and expect Semiprofilager in 2009 equivalent.

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Antwort von gunman:

Does vollkommwn BUT:

At the moment, and I emphasize "currently" there is no comparable in my eyes because the HM 100 Camera:

the HM-100 is a three Chipper,
-high-resolution films with a Good Lens
has manual Tonsteurung and XLR connector,
stores on cheap SD cards
-and is especially SMALL!

Sure, it is not a panacea, it is so well known, and there are not synonymous better lowlight cameras have capabilities greater Wide Angleresp. Telecommunications, and perhaps other features, but I remain (in my opinion, I am not employed by JVC): for me switching over as a dedicated amateur who value quality of SD on HD sets and the camera is currently the best compromise.
But as I said it's all relative!
Gunman

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Antwort von mon3:

[quote = "zueriman"] "domain" wrote:

My friends, the video tapes is not a hobby of mine, but my profession. So I'm relying on top-quality products without compromise! Sure, bulky for 30,000 euros gibts corresponding products. However, I need a camcorder, for which we train not only for the bodybuilding championship in order to contribute more than the part synonymous to 15 minutes.


if you earn your brötchen so, you must stop synonymous make no compromises in price. easy.

Besides, I'd like to know in what some people want dark caves for filming, where the weights are here permanently will lowlight ability to put ... as it is properly set stop light and is good.

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Antwort von zueriman:

"gunman" wrote: Does vollkommwn BUT:

At the moment, and I emphasize "currently" there is no comparable in my eyes because the HM 100 Camera:

the HM-100 is a three Chipper,
-high-resolution films with a Good Lens
has manual Tonsteurung and XLR connector,
stores on cheap SD cards
-and is especially SMALL!

Sure, it is not a panacea, it is so well known, and there are not synonymous better lowlight cameras have capabilities greater Wide Angleresp. Telecommunications, and perhaps other features, but I remain (in my opinion, I am not employed by JVC): for me switching over as a dedicated amateur who value quality of SD on HD sets and the camera is currently the best compromise.
But as I said it's all relative!
Gunman

Gunman, you are right 100%. I wrote in my first entry so that I fully recommend the HM100, if one can dispense with outstanding Lowlightleistung. See synonymous my test of the two sisters HM100 and HM700: http://forum.slashcam.de/kurztest-vergleich-jvc-gy-hm100-and-gy-hm700-vt72494.html

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Antwort von zueriman:

[quote = "mon3"] [quote = "zueriman"] "domain" wrote:

if you earn your brötchen so, you must stop synonymous make no compromises in price. easy.

Besides, I'd like to know in what some people want dark caves for filming, where the weights are here permanently will lowlight ability to put ... as it is properly set stop light and is good.


1.) The price I'm not synonymous compromises. Leider gibts in the 30,000-Euro-League not so handy lightweight cameras like the HM100, HM700 or di EX3. And with all the convenience, I will make no Kmpromise.
2.) ZB hidden filming s.einschlägigen roadhouses ;-)))... no nonsense, of course that was a stupid joke. But I often features buildings in a relatively obscure. For the interviews I have one terminal Aufhellicht on the Cam. But illuminate entire rooms so that they look authentic and consistent then that would be too expensive, then I would have to take a Assstenten. In addition, sites must s.vielen (; such as churches or government buildings) are not readily herumgescheinwerfert.

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Antwort von ed-media:

In HM700 still brings loose 3 dB - gamma curve on Filmout and Black stretch, until the signal has to be strengthened.
Similarly, when feasible HM100.

I had planned s.Wochenende shots in dark rooms, not great, and strengthened the recordings were less pixelated than
at 1 / 2 "3chip-SD-shoulder cameras. In the menus there are so many ways to get more from the JVC cameras.
As a camera man and video journalist, I want to have a camera,
The well is located on the shoulder and is still portable, the HM700
fits synonymous with complete equipment in the Kata BP 502nd

The entire footage (, which) synonymous Phil Bloom, for example, in metro, etc.
which can be found on Vimeo that shows the real size of the HM100
Lowlight quite useful, well, the EX1 can not compare against.
But many cameras like Canon and Sony HDV models.

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Antwort von idrisi:

I'd like to bring the discussion from the lowlight to another issue that bothers me in the practical handling something:

If one major adjustment to zoom is manual, and then wants to change the picture, the sensitivity of the focus a bit weird, it only reacts with a delay and any non-linear to rotary motion. Is it synonymous with you like that?

I have problems synonymous with the zoom button when I want to make slow zoom rides with constant speed. Somehow, my finger seems to be a little nervous. Do you know a trick?

MfG idrisi

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Antwort von gunman:

"idrisi" wrote: I'd like to bring the discussion from the lowlight to another issue that bothers me in the practical handling something:

If one major adjustment to zoom is manual, and then wants to change the picture, the sensitivity of the focus a bit weird, it only reacts with a delay and any non-linear to rotary motion. Is it synonymous with you like that?

I have problems synonymous with the zoom button when I want to make slow zoom rides with constant speed. Somehow, my finger seems to be a little nervous. Do you know a trick?

MfG idrisi
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Yes, can I confirm with the zoom ring. Use the zoom button s.sich I have no problems, but I'll give you right now he is so sensitive again not synonymous.

That does not bother me all too much, because I zoom in nearly as good as, and if not, then only minimally.
Let it be yes, if I remember well a of the habits that we should as a skilled amateur ...
Gunman

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Antwort von ed-media:

Only manual focus zoom in to check otherwise use to change the zoom size only to the setting and of course economical
deal with. Only facilitates the cut ;-) - cut out as many zooms.

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Antwort von zueriman:

The problem with the zoom is synonymous noticed me, but I think this must be tolerated in such a small micro high-performance camera

Let me for the last time to return to the topic lowlight. As promised, I now have a lowlight test Comparison "JVC GY-HM100" and "SonyPMW EX3 produced. I think this leaves no questions open Comparison terms lowlight performance: The SonyEX3 the JVC can look like very old camera. By the way: The lowlight performance of the big sister of the HM100, HM700 to be only marginally better. I think that overlooks Sonyklar has to do with the fact that plug into the 1/2-inch chips EX3, whereas the HM700 only 1/3-inch and HM100 have installed only 1 / 4 inch. There are obviously physical limits at the moment!

Conclusion of Tesclips:
- The Sony EX3 brings synonymous (without Gainverstärkung; 0db) excellent lowlight resultative. It produces massive brighter and brighter images than the HM100 with +9 dB gain!
- If you are still in the EX3 gain, the noise is less massive than the pumped up HM100.


Observed when the clips especially the s.Anfang Comparison of the Interior and the Garden s.Schluss? Got questions? I do not think :-).

Here are the test clips. The first clip shows the whole row (in HD quality, HD-bottom press and) go to fullscreen. The second clip shows the Comparison simultaneously in one window. Here the difference is particularly obvious.
First clip = Clipserie in HD:

Second clip = multicam view:


WARNING: The clips are in None manner subsequently manipulated. I have taken them as they came out of the camera!

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Antwort von newi:

Have the JVC GY-HM100 since a few days.
A small warning: I bought me this, of Panasonic 2 memory 16 GB Class10. The camera has neither approved: always brings the error message "not enough memory" - synonymous after formatting. On the memory card it is not: Cameras Manufacturer others take the cards easily. - Did the problem passed s.JVC. Want to accept the problem.

Then I (still waving a problem; on tripod with fluid head):
I finish the swing, then the camera moves to about 1 second later a jerk. Both on the display, as synonymous in the viewfinder, and finally on the recording. Does anyone know the problem? Can someone help me? I assume it is an image stabilization problem, but how solvable? Maybe the camera is broken?

For an answer I would be very grateful

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Antwort von krokymovie:

you know it yourself
the problem is known to disable the image stable and everything will be alright.
With this cam should work manual, an automatic is always a compromise.

gruß

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Antwort von Ruebe:

hallo erstmal

building stable and the jerk off after waving away.
on the tripod before you need any more stable.

zoomproblem:
Zoom possibly with the included remote.
bastelarbeit is announced.
Unfortunately, no hinterkamerabedienung gibts ja (; not yet)

gruss

rueber

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Antwort von newi:

Thank
Off Bildstabi was helpful tip

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Antwort von ed-media:

What surprises me that the HM100
as synonymous, the JVC HM700


Both are packaged in plastic bags that were previously the cameras and
The Optics always packed in antistatic white hull, which in
Panasonic is still the case. For both Lowlightverhalten
Cameras are available at Vimeo.com some interesting clips.
In any event, looks at the following Testclip the Lowlightverhalten
HM700 quite ok from


As for the Picture of both cams, the new Videoaktiv very synonymous
to Schmocks interesting to see what the report as synonymous, and the Lutz Dieckmann (; from Slashcam Forum)
reported on the HM700.

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Antwort von Harald_123:

"zueriman" wrote:
Here are the test clips. The first clip shows the whole row (in HD quality, HD-bottom press and) go to fullscreen. The second clip shows the Comparison simultaneously in one window. Here the difference is particularly obvious.
First clip = Clipserie in HD:

Second clip = multicam view:


WARNING: The clips are in None manner subsequently manipulated. I have taken them as they came out of the camera!

The EX3 of something much better can, of course, clear and not surprising.

How's it happens that the PMW-EX3 indoor and night shot with 0dB and +9 dB are equally bright? Since it has been mistaken for something?

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