Frage von Aule:
Good morning,
I need for a Panasonic GS 500 is a suitable microphone.
Be filmed motor racing and sporting events and is now faced with the problem of whether a directional stereo microphone, or the appropriate choice was. While targeted at the sound of cars racing for me is crucial as it would in football rather the atmosphere.
Thanks in advance!
Antwort von unodostres:
So with a stereo microphone you can not do anything because your camcorder with a large input is probably "only" one monaural microphone. (; And 95% of mics are mono)
Personally I use a condenser micro-dir (; mono).
Antwort von Meggs:
@ Aule
For different situations you need different microphones, as you have already identified themselves. Once your camcorder has a built-in stereo microphone so you could use for the Cosmos, and in addition, an external mono-directional micro-purchase.
@ UnoDosTre
Since you deceive yourself. Micro camcorder inputs are usually stereo.
Antwort von Interlaced_Killer:
HF11 I was once an Audio Technica ATR-33 and 55 s.einer SonyTRV since today is a Rode SVM s.einer Canon.
My experience:
So far was heard at every significant external microphone rattling. No, do not come from touching them, but only the lightest of movements of the camera.
Even the Rode SVM, which really brings excellent sound quality, transmits
- Noise due to wobbling of the lightest
- The cable, such as pivot
- (Hold the microphone, with minimal game s.Zubehörschuh)
- Noise due to movement of Hand (; decoupling but not 100%)
The sample videos on www.vimeo.com were rotated primarily on tripod, so this effect is not, of course notes or selected (as, eg, Rode promotional video).
In my practice, I can say that I am staying far, no truly satisfactory external microphone for dynamic images. Condition would probably
- S.Gerät 100% permanent assembly
- (No cable, such as equipment for intelligent accessory shoe)
- Or special cable that will not cause noise
Such a microphone is not known to me until today. In addition, we would need
- A good amplifier in the video camera, which does not rustle
- Or an external amplifier, which, however, again the same
Qualities such as the Microphone (; cable problem, etc.) would have.
In particular, we must ask is still not forgotten the quality of the microphone. :-) So now I'm waiting for suggestions.
Antwort von TomStg:
@ interlaced-killer
you walk out of a false acceptance: an external mic is not there to put it on the cam, but in order to come as close as possible to s.The sound source.
Most camkorder phantom voltage are not ready, so (only condenser mics, with its own power supply, battery) or dynamic mics come into question. depending on application must be paid to proper mic-sufficient type selected. spark gap eg ansteckmic or reportermic with or without. a good example for a very tidy solution, the funk-sets of the series of sennheiser ew. camkorders of the amplifier is not a high-end thing, but in the regular fully sufficient. be noise in the entire chain is the smallest, and practically negligible.
another note: anyone who believes that for an ordinary clay added with a few euros, but (for picture, ie cam) hundreds or thousands of euros lying down, is wide off the mark. ie, a decent tone with an external mic s.ca costs 300 euros upwards.
tom
Antwort von Aule:
Is there in all the models of the mono-directional micro-class is a must-have? Clear, it always gets there are no limits.
But since I'm average income, pegelt my vision box to 100-250 ¬.
Antwort von Meggs:
At Thomann there are some in this price range:
http://www.thomann.de/de/video_kameramikrofone.html
The Rhode VideoMic is not as bad.
As Tom said earlier, if not the Micro sits on the camcorder, but is as close as possible to the sound source, does this affect the sound very positive.
A few yards nearer often takes more than a few hundred dollars to the purchase price.
Antwort von TomStg:
Please do not focus on report-nomics! which will report-mic (; too) far away use of the sound source, the reflected sound of the front with its share of noise as big as any other mic. report-nomics suppress mainly lateral (; disturb) sound.
Therefore, always keep the purpose of the mics in the eye: for atmospheric pressure makes the stereo mic of camkorders very good voice for external mono mics are preferred, eg
http://www.thomann.de/de/beyerdynamic_mce58.htm http://www.thomann.de/de/sennheiser_md46_reportermikrofon.htm http://www.thomann.de/de/sennheiser_e840s_gesangsmikrofon.htm tom
Antwort von Rico_79:
Is there in all the models of the mono-directional micro-class is a must-have? Clear, it always gets there are no limits.
But since I'm average income, pegelt my vision box to 100-250 ¬. Rode VideoMic
http://de.rodemic.com/microphone.php?product=VideoMic
Antwort von Aule:
@ TomStg
Well, it's just the typical recording situation. The film end to the subject will be approximately 25 meters, approaching to within a few feet and withdraw it in my recording.
Will act as it is mostly noisy cars, then the audio control to vote yes or synonymous ...
@ All
Thanks for the useful information
Antwort von mov:
For these fields, I would still recommend using a stereo microphone, as the cars whiz past so that is even clearer. I am using for some time, the Beyerdynamic MCE72.
Antwort von Interlaced_Killer:
Funny how this always cling to all s.einzelnen words, only to find a counterargument to :-)
With "external microphone" I meant any microphone that is installed in the camera is not fixed.
And if the rattle Rode SVM = StereoVideoMic with smallest movement on the camera, so it rattles synonymous s.der Angel. Super sound.
Antwort von Meggs:
And if the rattle Rode SVM = StereoVideoMic with smallest movement on the camera, so it rattles synonymous s.der Angel. Super sound. The StereoVideoMic belongs rather than on a tripod Tonangel ne.
Your thesis that all external micros are good for nothing and deliver a worse result than the built-in is definitely not true. The opposite is the case.
To avoid the "chatter" that you stick the Micro into a spider and fixed the cable with Gaffa.
Antwort von joerg:
So with a stereo microphone you can not do anything because your camcorder with a large input is probably "only" one monaural microphone. (; And 95% of mics are mono)
Personally I use a condenser micro-dir (; mono). This statement is already wrong. The Panasonic GS 500 camcorder has a stereo jack for connecting the Microphone.
Synonymous Of course you can connect a mono microphone, but need another adapter to use of mono to stereo. How do I make it synonymous.
You can check the sound if no headphone jack is present, with an AV-to-headphone adapter that goes to the trouble, just have to really listen to the sound with headphones amplifiers You can Check the sound wonderfully, but the road there is not always the 220V ~ / 12V.
