Frage von abcHD:
Hi I am a grade on the lookout for a new camcorder and a laptop to edit the material in Premiere and After Effects. In my search, I am now on this notebook is pushed:
Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Xi 2550
Processor Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 (2.5 GHz)
Intel 965PM chipset
Memory inst. / Max. 2,048 / 4,096 MB DDR2-667
Graphics ATI Radeon HD 2700, 256 MByte
17.0 Inch Display
Resolution1.920 x 1,200 pixels
Hard Drive 500 GB (2 x Western Digital WD2500BEVS)
Optical drive Blu-ray drive, 2.4 x DL DVD Burners (Matshita UJ-110)
Network 1-GBit-LAN, 300-Mbit WLAN, Modem
Data Interfaces 3 x USB 2.0, Firewire, eSATA, PCIe slot, Bluetooth, Infrared
Video Interface HDMI, VGA, S-Video
Memory card reader 5-in-1 (SD, MS, MMC, MS Pro, xD)
1.3 Megapixel Webcam with Microphone.
No fingerprint reader
Speakers 2 x 2 Watt, 1 x 2 watt subwoofer
Misc. Remote control
OS Windows Vista Home Premium
Warranty 24 months
Size [wxdxh] 405 x 290 x 41 mm
Measured
Display Brightness / Contrast / Response 231.4 cd / m² / 689:1 / 6.7 ms
Battery life (Word / full load) 2:12 / 0:34 h
Loudness (idle / DVD / full load) 0.9 / 2.1 / 1.6 sone
Weight (laptop / adapter) 3.7 kilograms / 575 g
Energy Consumption (Stand-by / 3dmark) 40.0 W / 78.0 W
Has anyone experience with this and knows if these requirements for the processing of full-HD material in an acceptable framework allows?
However, I am still not sure whether it really is a FullDH or only a HDV or AVCHD camcorder to. Should the system for full-HD is too slow, I would be back. Especially with AVCHD one hears repeatedly that the post would be rather awkward. Has someone experience with this format and is now more than ever of Premiere, etc.?
mfg Chris
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Antwort von ef.multimedia:
In no case of a laptop Siemens. The devices are the biggest sh ***, just like the company. Unreliable, miserable dealing with the customer, etc.
Arlt When there is just a laptop of MSI, which only costs 799 ¬ and for the price a very good performance:
Antwort von abcHD:
Hmm what is exactly the problem with Siemens laptops? Did you mean bad experiences?
The MSI offers for the price is certainly a good performance, but I am not sure if it is suitable for my requirements is sufficient. It would be good if so perhaps someone who could speak so know what the appropriate requirements for full-HD, HDV and AVCHD editing in Adobe Premiere + After Effects are.
I think the Amilo Xi 2550 offers a very good price for money (as I said the quality of Siemens, in general, I can not judge. Here are more thoughts of the Siemens offers poor service) I have just one model for 1275 ¬ ( about the context in which I planned synonymous) found the following configuration:
- Intel Centrino Core2Duo 2.4 GHz
- 4 GB of RAM plus 1 GB of Intel Turbo Memory
- 2x250 GB Serial ATA hard drive = 500 GB (the hard disks can be used in Raid 0/1-Betrieb, which is certainly of great benefit to the DV editing is)
- ATI Radeon HD-2700 with 256MB VRAM
- Bluray drive (which is certainly very useful when the now more and more is coming.
As I said, I hope someone can me a bit too sensible system of the various video formats and say maybe alternatives to this system call. (Price range up to approximately 1400 ¬, everything is synonymous anything is good:))
mfg Chris
Antwort von WoWu:
Look in the thread ... there is more to the topic
http://forum.slashcam.de/computer-fur-avchd-bearbeitung-vp291542.html?sid=ddb85a7f5a4b29e2f465440a05fb2c5b # 291542
Antwort von ef.multimedia:
I have a calculator with 2,8 Ghz Dual Core and 2Gb Ram and I work in HDV editing smooth. Of Siemens notebooks are very unreliable and are highly sensitive to heat and demanding applications such as DV editing. Look in the forum AMILO purely because they accumulate so thousands of contributors. My experience with Siemens were up to now only negative. I can only advise against you for this company to purchase a device.
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Antwort von Eugen von ...:
In no case of a laptop Siemens. The devices are the biggest (...) Yes, true. They are s.and s.synonymous in supermarkets between tomato and cat litter verscheuert. And with the higher parts, we were quite synonymous and not at all satisfied. Better: Toshiba Maxdata or (in that order), but significantly more expensive synonymous.
One of the desktops of Siemens can I say nix.
Eugen
Antwort von ef.multimedia:
One of the desktops of Siemens can I say nix.
Eugen I can not say anything synonymous, but in my view, the devices are totally overpriced. As for HP devices has offered ¬ 600 with 2Gb RAM and 2,8 Ghz Dual Core, Siemens had desktop PCs for ¬ 700 with 1Gb Ram and 2.0 GHz Dual Core. Has until now synonymous not changed.
Antwort von johnnywhat:
hi chris!
I can basically of a notebook computer as an average only advise!
I work in HDV (Canon XH A1) with a self-assembled computer - 2.4 GHz Quad - 4 gb ram - 2TB total space etc. .. for the small "next to work" so I have incurred a 2.4 GHz dual core with 4gb ram
solely on her hard disk space is for me a notebook from ...
a notebook, you can not synonymous expand / rebuild ... you say you will always have to buy a new ...
stood at a computer you can depending on how it's you your financial situation allows repeatedly renew parts and have always been a hand on (almost) last stand ...
Antwort von wolfgang:
State devices are certainly performater than the usual laptop.
For AVCHD editing is even more problematic than if you use HDV (which could just go halfway, in 1920 AVCHD ists then probably even too close).
Antwort von abcHD:
Hi, thank you ever for all the answers. A desktop PC is surely better suited for DV editing, but I wanted to use a laptop growth (ie, not only for DV editing). Synonymous addition I would like to be able to my videos elsewhere than at home editing. And also do I have with my current PC is not only the problem that it is a bit too slow for the HD-cut and is synonymous to hang more often lately but my monitor has synonymous ne kind of loose connection and I should myself a new desktop PC growth, there is probably also need a monitor + at least a cheap laptop for the things I want to move it. I think overall I would be there with a powerful laptop alone better advice.
Because the thing with the hard drive I wanted to me anyway even an external disk (500GB or 1TB) growth is what should suffice. Then I would always only for the current Project important files on the laptop plate. NOTE 2 If the hard disks in Raid-operation would be used because the speed is certainly rich.
Incidentally, so has anyone experience how much the disk speed on the video editing effects? How fast are your hard disks for HD editing?
If I use the total from your comments, so rauslese should I do if I want to cut a NB in any case to an HDV camera access? Do you think the hardware in which I have mentioned of NB would be sufficient? (Apart from that it is of Siemens) Then, in fact, I would look at a NB with a similar performance of another manufacturer and are looking for hope that the price is similar.
mfg Chris
Antwort von PowerMac:
(...) I'm still not sure whether it really is a FullDH or only a HDV or AVCHD camcorder to. Should the system for full-HD is too slow, I would be back. Especially with AVCHD one hears repeatedly that the post would be rather awkward. Has someone experience with this format and is now more than ever of Premiere, etc. (...) There is no format, which is called Full HD. There are HDV, AVCHD, DVCProHD, uncompressed HD, AVC-Intra, D1 ... These are video formats. "Full HD" means usually the Resolutionder Camera. This in turn has nothing with the recorded Resolutionzu do.
Antwort von abcHD:
There is no format, which is called Full HD. There are HDV, AVCHD, DVCProHD, uncompressed HD, AVC-Intra, D1 ... Okay I always thought the format would FullHD mainly for movies etc is used. If after a camera for under 1000 ¬ then examined probably only HDV or AVCHD or question?
I have now again after a few notebooks and wanted some models in a price range between 800 ¬ and 1300 ¬ rausgesucht. However, I am just at the cheaper products are not sure whether they are for HDV editing are suitable. It would be great if maybe someone could look at the list and could tell what he considers much more useful for them or what NB offers the best value for money.
NB-List1 I know these are still quite a lot and they sometimes differ only in details, but I hope of you, maybe someone will be able to isolate a bit of choice.
mfg Chris
Antwort von abcHD:
I had my choice now to 6NB's limited. Can someone help me the next election or isolate a model particularly recommend? As I said there should be primarily for HDV editing are used.
NB-List2
Antwort von Daigoro:
It is difficult in the 1000 Euro class what to recommend.
Enough power to actually have any, but that is around at the cheap usually anything but ideal.
'Good' notebooks catch it at 2000.
Antwort von abcHD:
Enough power to actually have any, but that is around at the cheap usually anything but ideal. What do you mean with "around" exactly? Now in relation to the service?
Antwort von Daigoro:
Material, processing, concept, components.
The cheap laptops are often 08/15 components of the rod in a suitable plastic housing screwed without great idea to make - mass and brings the price's.
People want cheap and people want to notebooks.
Good, expensive notebooks shine primarily by sophisticated details.
Good ventilation, despite limited opportunities, good expandability, good ergonomics, good TFT panel, good power-saving mechanisms, good batteries, good keyboard, good touchpad .. the list can continue endlessly.
The fact that everything is so compact and 'closed' is isses halt to what it important to get mature. Einfach mal ne graphics card exchange, because the excess heat produced, or the processor fan, because he is too loud, or install additional fans, because the part is too warm will not do.
The difference is at first sight hard to see, but if you want a good notebook had to be nothing more of the cheap parts know.
At the desktop PC still has the advantage that it is his own stuff can be put together and with a bit of expertise in the convergence points for 500/600 Euros device gets a solid (+ ~ 300 for decent display n), which is equivalent to the preconfigured superior is.
And warranty and spare parts situation is then synonymous nochmal ne other thing. For brand synonymous devices found in 5 or even 10 years again NEN new battery or a replacement TFT.
So as I said, because what good conscience recommend is difficult.
Antwort von PowerMac:
(...) A good, expensive notebooks shine primarily by sophisticated details.
Good ventilation, despite limited opportunities, good expandability, good ergonomics, good TFT panel, good power-saving mechanisms, good batteries, good keyboard, good touchpad .. the list can continue endlessly. (...) You can simply synonymous say Macbook Pro. :)
Antwort von Daigoro:
Can you, but then you still need an operating system for which it is synonymous software. : D
Yes, the MacBook is quite good - synonymous for the price, but there is software already restricted and there is better.
Antwort von PowerMac:
I think there is no equivalent and better notebook. Once a major media market go. That reminds me of every notebook out, except those of Apple.
Restricted software? With the Macbook you with more software than any Windows laptop. It's with great software and has access to everything the world gives.
Antwort von PowerMac:
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