Frage von B.DeKid:
After I had indeed recommended a multi-role was to draw to a dolly / a sleigh, one wire / Spyder Cam, ....
... I've got a few minutes and sacrificed a bit screwed together ;-)
I have used:
Skateboards for 20, - ¬
2x tension wood boards
4xGewinde nuts screws + 8x + 1 x ¾ inch threaded screw (for the tripod head)
A tripod head (Manfrotto 804RC2)
Multi role with cord for about 50, - ¬
Pulley for about 3, - ¬
Support for the multi-role, either an old or a new fishing reels handle bracket
Document as a track - no preference whether or bank board and two water boxes
4-6 screws pulse a little wood as crash barriers
10 min working time
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First of all I have to admit that we achieve with a better support and better results could be more pulleys, but I was too rot make me the trouble now ;-)
Oh yes synonymous with a right Ingus Glide Track could be determined gewerkstelligen more, but that's what I had just not at hand (not yet) ;-)
If I only hold the potential advantage of the times and have offered me a video for you about 5min RAW together cut into pieces, cut into what I would like to show you that it synonymous with cheap materials works a Dolly / Track Glide tinker
All recordings are raw and without any points Tracker and etc put together (ok have to denoise the footage of the XL1s me) but if intressiert that?! -)
I once in the new "turn signal" seen and have seen it already Reels s.ca 30, - ¬ is - this is ok I just Abu / DAM / Shimano Reels'm here .... what are good cheap I can not judge ... I usually fish nutz synonymous only to the roles ... na ja and since I buy einaml and 10 years + with the quality'm happy, so what,-P
Important for missing part "games" and is only just the cord! Please enter a braided cord wrapped s.besten uses for such projects! These lines are Dehen almost not at all (as opposed to monofilament.
Des weitereen I must admit that I was not entirely satisfied with the diversion! ..... here have to actually have a few more pulleys and a stable mounted roll holder are used to more "Smooth to gerleisten" ..
Tracker Points (in the form of small round stickers how to get in the writing trade goods are synonymous never wrong) no preference whether Dolly or Steadycam - the Post Production profetiert un halt them mean!
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Conclusion: I thought a worm gear (as it has a macro bellows synonymous), or a computer control system (as is possible in stepper motors with CNC interface cards)
Of course, is fine and therefore better, but who has no money left over for such toys should still try to tinker times that!
Note: Anyone who has seen the BBC Timelapse clip sees the one synonymous from a bicycle wheel and a stepper motor controller can make something ;-)
Unless - the motive and the will include everything else is secondary, because the viewer does not count pixels, has no technique and to be honest intressiert NEN Schei ** for s around it ;-)
Yours sincerely,
B. DeKid aka MacGyver
PS: next time I can gladly NEN converted Berg Kettcar with a pull of my offshore fishing, I grab my fishing rod no preference, the loose ;-) (no preference whether with or without driver ;-) - to 250 Kg I have everything here you need to fish ;-)
Oh and, my neighbor NEN Fendt tractor with winds of packs even 40 + pounds, so we pull logs from the river ;-) If ne multi-role can be a lot - oh for about 500 ¬ you get Reels synonymous already electronical - so that the Halibut can pump out 200 m high ;-)) I wish Alla "Petrie salvation"
Antwort von pailes:
I take it not ill, but the recording is totally grottig example, the movement is uneven, it shakes and stutters. Total useless if you do not subsequently drangehst with a digital image stabilization.
Antwort von Frank B.:
Hi B. DeKid,
I see you are synonymous such a tinkerer like me who is trying to achieve with a few simple methods and acceptable results, without extremely deep into their pockets need. Thank you for that suggestion. I have already made similar thoughts about such a dolly.
What bothers me extremely s.Deinem Dolly - but have you given so synonymous itself - is of course the mangelde synchronization, caused by the Rotate the crank with his hand. Since I would not even think of something cheap. Because of me a role, s.der a weight hanging, which we then can fall evenly, or a kind of flywheel. Your ideas are synonymous to me. However, it should really be amended. Furthermore, I do not like that the obvious behind Dolly the drive axis varies (the camera nods), apparently because the latter need a skateboard a tilt function for cornering. It seems rather unstable. I know myself so not so great. My son once had a that would have lying around still somewhere. I can see me at times nearer. I would unscrew the screw on the roles and somehow rigid s.ein board so that it can not tip over.
Despite all the improvement ideas, yet still enjoy the tinkering.
Frank
Antwort von srone:
@ Billy the kid.
thank you for your trouble.
declared principle to the point.
lg
SRone
Antwort von domain:
Good made as DeKid!
For something richer, I would suggest the following system as a basic element. Be transported more easily determined synonymous and does not seem to be very costly. The 150 * 80 mm slide is priced at only ¬ 50 Merkateo example - and the rails can be synonymous not so expensive.
http://www.igus.at/wpck/default.aspx?Pagename=drylin_w&C=AT&L=de
Are you sure DeKid example, that with a really Angelschnuraufwickelmechanismus a uniform train can be developed? Sometimes the cord is still immersed between a previous position and want a drübersteigen other time, the volume will therefore never be truly stable. But maybe it really is negligible, I do not know. I am only surprised that one usually sees with timing solutions, the paid always at the exact same size or solutions synonymous with spindles on the entire rail length.
Antwort von pilskopf:
Very nice BDekid.
Since I can so smoothly once my little wooden sled show for Const worth of 20 ¬. : D I can tomorrow, perhaps synonymous post a sample and make a Stillimage on the track.
A real metal bar with decent stock, we will not be with our buildings still be able to hold water.
Whether you can drive with the Angelschnut wirkich a straight line I do not synonymous, will be synonymous s.eigenen sensitivity how clean you get the point. I find it very difficult to stop my wooden sled can move accurately, even with air that is still an art which I have not mastered. : D
If I had one I would want to try Glidetrack synonymous to pivot with the tripod head while driving, which could be the hardest part it may resort to the clean but as I've synonymous already have an idea how the could implement clean. Play Do I have time I have one, but I am just because of vet bills so broke that I did the hole until I'm back relaxed and my current project is finished, now it's so synonymous out more Red Dead Redemption and my playfulness wants synonymous something other than shooting and work. : D However, I will ne in June, weeks on holiday in the Allgäu region and there would make a video about this Glidetrack. Schloss Neuschwanstein and give support for this environment certainly from a bomb design.
Antwort von MaestroXXV:
Hi BdeKid,
I have a rail with igus schlitten.and with little exercise can even rides with the hinbekommen hand. a dolly, it is not in the big cinema anders.dort you have one of the gripper pushes you, so I admire your pleasure craft, but I hardly think that a angelschnut hinbekommt drive a uniform.
I bought an additional rail with the smallest and slide it into a small measured to have the shoulder support to build hinbekommt just on standby at any time rides.
I hope I can sometimes make a video out of the tinkering.
the small igusschiene not cost much to the sledge-60cm 60-70 ¬ with.
of course you'd have to drill a few holes, but is not that bad.
get them to you-I can only recommend and I am looking forward as you elektronisierst that;)
Antwort von domain:
Apart from the fact that this solution according Igus video are synonymous in the original, I think 6 mm threaded rods, which are available in any hardware store in 1.5 m length, for a very interesting solution jacking hobbyist. Due to the large reduction through the thread you could in fact directly connect a pulsweitenmoduliereten DC motor, for example, a used old wiper motor from scrap dealers (perhaps without transmission).
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
I recommend complete systems, which make no great difference in price for a DIY solution when you have to buy additional synonymous nor the specific thread (zöllische for cameras) and extra screws. Special rates are available on request. Two sliders were presented:
http://www.slashcam.de/news/single/Feinjustierbarer-Camera-Slider-Deluxe--8386.html
Is a clearly better synonymous LIGHT p.165 ¬ system, which would be the Igus rails hardly difference of price, also guarantee ...
@ Domain:
1st A spindle axis must have a helix, so that the car ever gets forward and the car is moving not only up to 1cm per turn.
2nd If a helix is then a big scary Directions resistance. What is then: How Jerky movement. The same is synonymous for a ball bearing, which runs on a rail. For the transition of imprisonment in sliding friction is large with ball bearings, plain bearings in it goes to zero. Bearings are so smooth movements without engine for a better choice.
3rd Also depends a threaded rod s.1, 5m so much in that the threaded rod would grind on the rail. Due to the "sagging" also arises again such a great resistance, so that you can start anything.
Therefore you should not do without a belt, or at least take a rope as a train, such as DeKid (which then of course you must re-tighten every time and you can not go in one direction and to brake properly!)
Greetings!
Antwort von domain:
Well with the camera slider to ¬ 500, - we are now but even in the rich :-)
In addition, a hand crank drive is in my opinion the question. Since the entire system wobbles when the crank. The timing belt must have either a pulse-controlled DC motor (eg http://www.solarlink.de/dimmer.htm) or better yet by a controllable stepper motor can be driven. In this case, synonymous mini steps for time lapse recordings were possible.
Antwort von srone:
only as a link for interested, very expensive but I think that pretty awesome.
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
¬ 500 Why? Gibts but synonymous for 165 ¬ at the LIGHT version, but then no drive ... But you can tinker to it just as much, if you will give up the timing solution ...
Antwort von domain:
True, looks good. But still I would order it for ¬ 166th - the 75-cm-long linear Igus including 10 mm spindle drive. At times one spindle is fast growing a motor. Helix is not necessary to vote in only the speed and must hold such a stable wave does not hit already.
http://www.igus.de/wpck/default.aspx?pagenr=2363&C=de&L=de&scroll=312&step=6
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
100cm is synonymous but the absolute maximum length and this should be considered: How is synonymous resistance and just when we connect a motor.
There is no thread, no screw, etc. provided in this system. One would even fix a screw s.Schlitten and can be a real DIY job if you consider that sits below the threaded rod.
But a threaded rod for camera movements? In my opinion, not suitable for the above mentioned reasons ... I think the gesture is then much better ;-)
Antwort von srone:
one should forget one not in the whole matter, however, and I have to black eagle fully agree with what (r) a good camera swivel or - movement is really linear?, in my opinion, and I speak from over 10 years of work experience with dollies and bridge crane, the subtiming a ride, the all-important spaces to bridge quickly and spend it on the main, a linear can motor without dynamic control is not or only partially, this is, as the camera pan, feeling and announced musicality to the best extract.
lg
SRone
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Thank you for the first s.alle look.
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It is indeed true that the system runs only suboptimal in the illustrated building mantains.
There are several factors contributing to this:
- The cheap skateboard, since the rear axle is not aligned really clean and warps easily, this could be finely adjusted by a better or more axle rubber buffer on it really just runs. If I do, however, as with a replica of Dolly based on aluminum conductor and surface mounted and report key role could be slipping cleaner.
- The befeestigung the reel, s.dem Syystem Tricky is attached no preference with which hand crank as well more weight / pressure on the system / structure that could cause the system moves.
In a timing belt system oderr a worm is running the whole natrlich built stiff and does shake the "contrary to the run.
See here but still a Proofs of the hand crank and the uneven rotation of this.
An engine Währe what you can as for a CNC drive in curves an-/ab- in my eyes the best solution.
- The ground, the more fine (smooth) so of course, is synonymous smoother the motion. Here is a Glidetrack or a rail solution, of course obtimal.
Also nice - we had the crazy idea Währe times the Prinziep a AirHockyTables.
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As I said all should be just a small test.
Because a multi-role had worked just s.einer WireCam quite well. Here was indeed slowed down by the weight of the sled and the Cam (Kamer Ramann) the slide with the aid of the brake of the role and then slide down s.Kabel s.end driving the system back hinaufgekurbelt.
That made me stop before long been on the idea so heranzukurbeln a dolly.
What I saw and synonymous already found quite a cool RC car was rebuilt as the slide on the tubes that lead through the forest. The gefiehl me really well because you could just synonymous adjust the speed.
So I think for little money you get for linear trips eg product photos in the studio can not overcome a Glidetrack, for everything else you benötigtt then again a track dolly.
Well as I said was already clear to me but my Basteltrieb was thus once again satisfied and the good will so what counts, right? ;-)
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@ Domain
Yes the line can actually be moved precisely with such a role with the big wheels with thicker cord can observe the beautiful.
But this is synonymous with stationary rollers. Benefits s.einer multi role is in contrast to the stationary roller transmission. Especially in certain fishing operations and techniques, it is far superior to the stationary part.
MfG
B. DeKid
