Frage von PowerMac:
The grading is the new thread that emerged from
diesem.
Vorschlag: Ab and s.posten wir selbst unbearbeitetes Material (ein stellvertretender Frame, welcher für die Einstellung and Szene steht) of eigenen Produktionen, s.denen sich jeder versuchen darf. Ziel soll kreatives and handwerkliches Ausprobieren, das Aufstellen of Regeln and vor allem die formale, inhaltliche and ästhetische Analyse der Versuche anderer sein. Ziel soll nicht ein Kracher of farbkorrigiertem Picture
s.sich, but the frame and look for the scene.
Of course, every one sees a different film in the cinema when he head a single frame of the raw material considered. But that is a good thing and should be. The "right" and "best" Grading will never give. Therefore, it is great when it describes how what works. Such a feedback effect and receptions can help each artist.
I hope we can be synonymous to Participate encourage those who are more than film and craftsmen see less as an artist.
If you post your attempts, writes about what you seen in the attitude you have, what your goal was and how it proceeded, too. or did you just start editing away gegradetet? What software took me?
Antwort von PowerMac:
I begin s.and constitutes a Picture On. Raw material of a short film of me, rotated with a Varicam. Extremely flat and therefore with much potential.
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Maci ... I see a woman without underexposed light aufm wheel, even poor kadriert and still synonymous supervisory ... it shakes me, this is not a Picture! The question would be synonymous here again "what is it?" ... you can not graden without the mood and the context to know. There are probably a correct and an incorrect grading, is correct when
- The exposure was corrected afterwards really, so 100% is white and highlights not eat, no clipping Channels
- Relating to the colors match
- The images among themselves fit
- The color that tells what the director had in mind
MB
Antwort von PowerMac:
True, Balli.
It is underexposed material. About Kadrierung you can not exceed s.diesem frame to say something, because he belongs to a long dolly and crane drive is removed. Missing you like light? Create digital light. I would be very interested to hear of you, as you have a shot with a ride in the winter would have lit ...
But right and wrong can not in the art. Each epistemology, experience, whether scientific, metaphysical or transcendent, contests, whether it is "real" art, or even whether you can answer the question.
Antwort von Chezus:
so underexposed the scene is now not ...
So, if I were I would like that direction is chosen:
(an attempt of 5min, as is still much more ...)
Antwort von deti:
There is winter? Then the colors could be a bit colder - or how do I get now 300 postings together.
Deti
Antwort von B.DeKid:
;-) Hier gehts so next, yes ;-) Correctly!
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
This thread is pointless.
Grading is not an isolated process, it is always in the context of the imagery left and right of the cut, and especially in the context of the dramaturgy of the film.
It is not a problem, somehow this Picture to Color, but that is not straight but tinker. Give me the whole movie and I'm doing you a look, but what should I do with a frame that still is not the slightest states and have no raw conveys mood? The woman could s.einem autumn of her mother back, they could go to kindergarten, they could buy bananas drive, or to the saddle of her bicycle to move around, or the hairdresser's, where they urgently need to. Picture this tells me absolutely nothing, the director seems s.diesem Drehtrag free to have had ... or he could not be better. The Picture of the other threads with the woman in front of the pictures tells me a lot, this is just arbitrary.
Sorry, my opinion. If you are the director should be, then we have a problem now? And, since you have tamed Camera, why is it too weak exposed?
I would be very interested to hear of you, as you have a shot with a ride in the winter would have lit ...
Garnicht. But I would have shown the light, so the sky so that the light digitally better can lead synonymous because you do not immediately s.Boden see that a shadow is missing. In a Picture without soil, you can always install nachträglch the sun, with soil never see shit ever made, yet one more reason untersichtig to film. That winter, I can see anyway, what should I know?
MB
Antwort von Chezus:
The thread is pointless and quite garnicht. 90% of the "Which HDV for 100 euros" threads are pointless.
Let's tinker a bit. I'm interested in it, what man with Looks moderate starting material can create
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
The thread is pointless and quite garnicht. 90% of the "Which HDV for 100 euros" threads are pointless.
Let's tinker a bit. I'm interested in it, what man with Looks moderate starting material can create
Each one you want, if you can. Since, however, None knows what is wanted, it is meaningless. But if you bored, I would have given another car to clean, I would be interested in times such as the catapult without dirty looks;) Have I not seen for a long ..
MB
Antwort von Chezus:
This would, I now get up .... because I prefer sitting here in the warm nest and polishing still;)
If I clean your car, yes, I have no time for the 3 open projects, I just s.denen Make.
Antwort von Alan Smithee:
The thread is pointless and quite garnicht. 90% of the "Which HDV for 100 euros" threads are pointless.
Let's tinker a bit. I'm interested in it, what man with Looks moderate starting material can create
Each one you want, if you can. Since, however, None knows what is wanted, it is meaningless. But if your bored: ...
Yes and? Look at it as
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
If I clean your car, yes, I have no time for the 3 open projects, I just s.denen Make.
Ahh ... Now I know why I again synonymous never clean ... driving the car now since his year, had really never been cleaned, so any event inside ... ;) Will garnicht know what the so everything under the seat from the shadows. I have my times next week to ask whether it renders the so genrell to their area counts:)
MB
Antwort von Jörg:
If I have understood correctly, it is vergeigte Picture
Picture underexposed "saved" are.
My rescue attempt takes 30 seconds and would look like this:
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
No, it is credibly about finding out what is involved.
Antwort von -ssSonyY-:
Say Powermac, the shot from "A Life Beyond"?
Antwort von Chezus:
shorts so much in the style he has surely not rotated;)
I do look at YES
Antwort von domain:
A Liquid gimmick. No discussion. The light could be a few seconds per Keyframesteuerung updated and the size changed.
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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
I tilt my bottle of wine now ne behind the keyframe, then go to me synonymous with the lights on. Tracking must I then the only way to bed.
With this in mind: Good N8! ;)
MB
Antwort von domain:
The lady will have you home well lit. BTW, LUXEON bicycle lighting dazzles everyone ;-))
Antwort von jogol:
Two variants:
Antwort von PowerMac:
(...) But I would have shown the light, so the sky so that the light is better digitally can lead synonymous because you do not immediately s.Boden see that a shadow is missing. (...)
I already said that this is a Still Image from a journey is. As a reminder s.den colleagues, during a trip changes the perspective constantly. I do not think that you must show the sky and therefore desperately untersichtig outdoor filming needs.
Incidentally, nearly all images of this movie quite dark. Here on the right in the preview monitor gamma 2.2 and 6500 Kelvin looks but (in the dark) decent.
Antwort von PowerMac:
(...) Give me the whole movie and I'm doing you a look, but what should I do with a frame that still is not the slightest states and have no raw conveys mood? The woman could s.einem autumn of her mother back, they could go to kindergarten, they could buy bananas drive, or to the saddle of her bicycle to move around, or the hairdresser's, where they urgently need to. Picture this tells me absolutely nothing, the director seems s.diesem Drehtrag free to have had ... or he could not be better. The Picture of the other threads with the woman in front of the pictures tells me a lot, this is just arbitrary. (...)
Clear. You are served raw, which is not as symbolic as that s.der another scene with the woman and you are ripping it. I have deliberately chosen an underexposed picture, which is somewhere a person with landscape displays. A large part of each film is made from images that are not s.sich a message, but in the interaction of non-modified images, on average, by association only contain the message. Therefore it is not film and painting. Eisenstein and Mamet to greet.
Antwort von domain:
I do not think that you must show the sky and therefore desperately untersichtig outdoor filming needs.
This recommendation, I have not understood synonymous. The rationale is clear, however, assume that almost everything in any serious needs to be digitally processed, of which I generally think very little.
Furthermore, a "frog perspective" always a judgmental statement, namely, the viewer has a submissive and give the person at the same time a heroic position. Therefore, it was synonymous a typical camera position in Leni Riefenstahl's propaganda films.
It adds that the sky in our latitude is quite often white and then in any event, finishing a strong need to be found in gruesome ways yes sometimes Docus found.
In my view, such statements can not therefore be appropriate to generalize, but I suppose that I have misunderstood MB.
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Clear. You are served raw, which is not as symbolic as that s.der another scene with the woman and you are ripping it. I have deliberately chosen an underexposed picture, which is somewhere a person with landscape displays. A large part of each film is made from images that are not s.sich a message, but in the interaction of non-modified images, on average, by association only contain the message. Therefore it is not film and painting. Eisenstein and Mamet to greet.
This was with nothing to do Mamet. Mamet says only that a nail is a nail and not the significance of the house can play. This does not mean however, that the nail may garnicht testify, he may just not presume to represent the house. That is a difference.
From which, in principle, but applies: A Picture says nothing, is an unnecessary Picture. Film tells you about omission, not on wealth. If a picture looks like nothing, it's another reason it rauszulassen.
I know just what you wanted gegradet see, but grading for me is an artistic process with purpose. I can not Picture with your start and that is why I see it as pointless because now any color reinzuschrauben.
This recommendation, I have not understood synonymous. The rationale is clear, however, assume that almost everything in any serious needs to be digitally processed, of which I generally think very little.
Furthermore, a "frog perspective" always a judgmental statement, namely, the viewer has a submissive and give the person at the same time a heroic position. Therefore, it was synonymous a typical camera position in Leni Riefenstahl's propaganda films.
It adds that the sky in our latitude is quite often white and then in any event, finishing a strong need to be found in gruesome ways yes sometimes Docus found.
In my view, such statements can not therefore be appropriate to generalize, but I suppose that I have misunderstood MB.
It is ALWAYS nachgearbeitet whether digital or analog, has always been so. The art is not the tool but to visualize the desired effect (= mood / look) to be achieved. But sometimes you have to press it more, sometimes less.
A sky of white, it must not remain white. Every so flat white in the sky has a hint of blue. I make thee from all white with a cloudy sky blue in between, no problem at all. And in case of doubt, replace it from the sky, anyway is almost standard.
As for the setting: a pan is what the POV Docus or scenic. Was that a POV? Panning of the top is not a documentary but cinematically, and since I do not make docs, I like the picture probably is not.
But, PowerMac, red do not go, there's no reason a Picture underexpose, so that you simply can not, that was not good. From Kadrage apart. The cameraman has slept with the aperture;)
MB
Antwort von shodushitanaka:
Even if you Powermac say he has forgotten when turning the camera on, he will answer thee, that it was intended as synonymous - in other words to gibs.
If you have an insight into Powies practical art outside of the forum want to win, then take a look at his times "The dichotomy" on youtube to.
I will miss him for me on the 12th Look at it, maybe I'll finally sight the story / message / Who-is-Who-and-why-eye-Effect --
and where we are in the thread, the meaning of the colors / looks.
Antwort von PowerMac:
Not already a PowerMac thread!
Some of you will find me
Antwort von B.DeKid:
So after my rush times I've ausgeschlafen now my contribution to the actually very good idea here Powermac addressed.
So now the picture was not exactly top but Who Cares or ;-)
No idea what I am now all in about 30 min made. Just have a bit played.
I've used PS CS3.
So yes it is "current Bildeer" could act the way you generally mask and then through the course a little stress.
For dark recording what can be better than what dark light.
I've accustomed myself eigentich my images deliberately to clear, so I have more opportunities later, via filters, etc. and edit the picture and get so s.Schluss the exposure / brightness which I actually wanted.
Ok if it knows what I "of the typical forest horror look. Day from night" should be, then I would obviously Darker scan. And I would probably not "night from day" taking pictures at night but by adding light, make the shot ;-) So much must be ambitious ;-)
Ok so if anyone has questions, just start editing away boys / girls.
MfG
B. DeKid
PS: The idea of domain I was nice. But I would have the "artifact" star behind your place - or s.Ende shown the way - to a kind of tunnel to create.
But I would but YOU and YOUR bike cut / stamped need.
The level of the landscape in ..... mom, I just still do the fast.
Antwort von deti:
... I simply can not, sorry
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Deti
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Super. And what do we see? True, the source of light. Thank you, Deti! ;)
@ B. DeKid - This is NOT from the time of day. Dayfornight makes it synonymous differently, namely by using the gamma down moves, and not the straight line right down tilts, nee nee.
MB
Antwort von frm:
I am ready. Here is a frame from a Steadicamfahrt in a restaurant. Therefore, the motion blur. Filmed with SonyEx1.
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
successful recruitment!
Antwort von frm:
Jep Rieß was a blowout!
Antwort von domain:
Very attractive picture. But where is the light? If possible, according to MB's always visible.
Antwort von frm:
There was enough light 7 pieces 1 KW, but it is a tavern with medieval originals light "candle" The Picture I do not necessarily want to destroy ^ ^
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Very attractive picture. But where is the light? If possible, according to MB's always visible.
A smiley face behind your post, I would have somehow found better;) ... No, a light source can I find useful when the light direction is not so easy to see, so if cloudy eg Then you do a Page brighten the sky, and in case of doubt synonymous diffuse solar installation, which is often simply the Picture better. The weather in Germany it's usually shit, and I turn largely on the American market, which I think leads to such actions.
MB
Antwort von domain:
Dummerchen And I thought, I have my flash photos in the future a mirror positioned so that the flash itself can see beautiful synonymous
;-))
Antwort von Chezus:
Now I have time to ask (so I will be back smarter and make better movies): Why do you see the light? How is that exactly?
Can you give me examples (video clips of me out of Youtube) to show where this is important?
Is not defiantly mean, I really want to know!
Antwort von B.DeKid:
So
Well I did the stuff get ready times.
So as I said above
Ausstempeln / Cut
Maxon Start 2 levels and create the background map
Light source between on and lamp in the background.
2 versions (1 # 2 #) rausrendern
In PS get together and lay down.
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Tools used in PS
Stamp Tool - Clear Control Mask - Hue Saturation - Brightness / Contrast - course tool radial / Horrizontal - Blur - mask levels - cutting tool - GraditionsKurve
In Maxon
2x square area - Material 2x - 3x light (different settings, but were used only for the functions: point - Visible - Noise - Reflexes) - 1x Camera
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To think that should be it.
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@ frm
I think everyone should have its own "Competition / Creative Art" thread open, because the idea is good.
Each will be given the possibility that he is with other Bzgl, "How was what done" can be exchanged.
.................
But I will give Mark time is right, I would be synonymous prefer small Raw clips - Still image competitions because there are enough in the net ;-)
Although I am not against synonymous Still image or Green Screen would.
@ Mark
I do not synonymous days had made during the first 3 times the brightness set high times is low, and you had masked the Efekt so they are not so much concerned. Like a recording daylight looks - well - yes, I see that on the output picture ;-)
And the sky is always good but is not given here, so stick with it "- I would say and just tinker with, as you already said yourself. Or? Make it easy with - and the next thread's then maybe better material.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von domain:
The second experiment is good except for the inexplicable in light of the person. But better would murder me an explosion in the background like before the now well-fed cyclist flees in panic ;-))
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Yes, you flame s.flüchten sea, the trees s.burn ;-) Yeah, but you might have a virtual synonymous car headlights and cones make ;-)
What I like about the still image and the attitude generally einfiehl.
If the setting is fixed - ie you all the way along comes - then I would have persl. Fog / mist very cool place - almost like the end of the visible path disappear in fog, on the field side Dunst (Hazer) swaths.
If anything, the image recording, you really try the right of the trees along Page (all) anzustrahlen so they throw a shadow.
So the scene had more impact and it could be synonymous to the sky in the background as a source of light save.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von domain:
Now I have time to ask (so I will be back smarter and make better movies): Why do you see the light? How is that exactly?
It does not need to be explained. It was probably only MarcB of imprecise words. By that he probably, first, that it ever should be light and secondly, that directly or indirectly, should be identified, from which direction it comes from.
A Picture perfect diffusely illuminated without shadow is boring and can hold no atmosphere.
