Frage von RocknRoyal:Hello,
I have looked at yesterday's media market HC7 purchased (not yet used) - rather the purchase was very spontaneous, may be spontaneous! Because I have the Canon HV20 of my decision not to let einfliesen.
Now I am about whether I am against the HC7 Canon HV20 of swap should be.
Criteria for me:
24/25P the mode (film look), the better image quality (especially well in low-light area)
Primary, while most sports (football games my son) filmed, but I can imagine synonymous take a short film, ideas have long been present.
The question is, I've now read that the Canon HV20 in the movie mode will probably 24/25 with movements very prone to bucking, then this would indeed be more of a joke and not from exchange argument count more ...
How do you see that? Should I keep the HC7 v HV20 or use? I would then perhaps have a 35mm wide-angle adapter and ... growth!
Please fairly quick answer, because I still would like to exchange or not.
LG
Alex
Antwort von immanuelkant:
this is almost a religious question, depending on whether you have a Canonaner or Sonyaner ask, you'll get different answers ;-)
So both cameras and play in the same class and are alternatives to each other. The Canon is a partially sharper picture and said the Sonygilt in terms of ergonomics as successful. Finally there is the 25p mode with Canon, it does not exist in Sonyso.
So I personally would be me - purely subjective - for the Sony decision, because robust and ergonomic. A decision for the Canon is synonymous but not wrong ...
PS. If I would buy new today, I would be synonymous to the successor SonyHC9 or Canon HV30 consider synonymous if little has changed. At least the s.864 EUR SonyHC9 is available. A HC7, there is little cheaper ...
Antwort von Quadruplex:
http://www.camcorder-test.com/
http://www.videoaktiv.de/content/section/4/57/
Antwort von marcvulkan:
Hello,
yes primarily interested me the 25P mode s.der canon, but it is de facto the case that this eigentl not moving objects can be used, as this will very prone to bucking?
What are the costs for 35mm adapter for the Canon HV20? Think of something you get only in the specialty or as synonymous with media market?
a still, the HV20 just great shots Slowmo implement, as happened with the HC7 is the case?
Netter Gruss
Alex
Antwort von immanuelkant:
25p mode corresponds to the Movies-/Film-Feeling. So is more of a taste and occasion question.
For sports reports tend not to recommend (because of the low-resolution motion).
Furthermore, your editing software, the 25p material can edit synonymous (is mEnicht to HDV - Standard compliant, which is only 1080i or 720p know) and your TV must be the mode may be synonymous (because there are not many s.Markt!).
As for the slow-motion mode, it has to my knowledge (but I am not 100% sure), only the Sony. Beware: Slow-Motion is here synonymous with quality in the associated image resolution.
From my point of view, so you have no real need for action.
Antwort von marcvulkan:
Can I connect my speakers only - the thing with the 25p is unnecessary in this class aufgebauscht.
The HV 20 is Ihne External Microphone not to use - unless you make a silent movie and take out the sound completely ;-)
The HC 7 (or 9) is better in the hand and saying the Sony tape drive has a better shelf life after.
The Sonylässt might remotely synonymous - it has Lanc Remote and AV (maybe they're not really what you want in the next vacation with the water nehemen ...?)
So I think you've the right decision ... I've read posts here, people of the HV 20, another Cam have swapped, but not vice versa.
Antwort von marcvulkan:
Thus,
I've yet exchanged the CAM, but not against the HV20 but against the HV30 - now all I can but sometimes re-read that the HV30 is worse than its predecessor should be? mhhh .. .. I was told the HV30 almost the same as the HV20, but is probably the autofocus has been improved again, and the same is probably for the low-light area and apply a new sensor! Hope it does not now the HV30 is actually worse than the HV20 - because again I do not like to exchange * g *
Gruss
Alexander
Antwort von marcvulkan:
What is your personal impression ... Now after you both times had a hand in?
Antwort von marcvulkan:
Honestly?
I'm a little bit with mixed feelings, because I often read "cheap HV20 processed etc" - well, I have the HV30 but this is basically identical to me and she does not "cheap" and if you feel like it or not, but it is definitely better in my hand, in comparison to Sony's HC7!
Gruss
Alexander
Antwort von Jan:
Active Comparison This video says a lot about the cameras:
Active Video Test 25 P is interesting, but for me, for normal shots unsustainable. Well, that I had already written many times - just go to the menu and activate it and see if you're with the "Geruckel" can live.
HV 30 is definitely better in the hand than the old HV 20 (aufgerauhte surface) - if you believe VAD, is the Tonproblem now resolved to the disadvantage of a worse, but the built-in microphone recording on the heights. I know a user here massive losses to edge sharpness at wide Anglenachgewiesen wants (HV 30), I could see nothing wrong - perhaps it was s.dem Anschaupanel - or he took it too well. VAD has nothing written synonymous.
The super slow motion of the Sony models with 200 pictures in 3 seconds in VGA quality with sound can be partially forgotten.
You'll find easy but synonymous for the Sony's advantages - eg better Angleund Wide Fernsteueranschlussbuchse, HC 9 has the best Peaking with JVC HD 3 & 7 (edge reinforcement for manual Focusieren) as Canon does not come with - but as a whole, they are not as big stop different.
VG
Jan
Antwort von PowerMac:
(...) Is to mEnicht HDV - Standard compliant, which is only 1080i or 720p knows (...) Wrong!
Antwort von immanuelkant:
(...) Is to mEnicht HDV - Standard compliant, which is only 1080i or 720p knows (...)
Wrong! How is it correct? I like to learn!
Until now, I know only HDV1 and HDV2 and these are the best of my knowledge 1280x720p (25/30) and 1440x1080i (50/60).
Antwort von JUB:
Honestly?
I'm a little bit with mixed feelings, because I often read "cheap HV20 processed etc" - well, I have the HV30 but this is basically identical to me and she does not "cheap" and if you feel like it or not, but it is definitely better in my hand, in comparison to Sony's HC7!
Gruss
Alexander Well then yes, you have done everything right and can begin with the shooting, because it only will you remember whether s.ehesten fit your needs!
JUB
JUB
Antwort von marcvulkan:
In relation to the TV (!) Has since been synonymous adopted a 1080p standard - nevertheless, the question remains whether all Programmee cut easily to handle them.
Antwort von PowerMac:
http://www.hdv-info.org/HDVSpecifications.pdf
Antwort von immanuelkant:
http://www.hdv-info.org/HDVSpecifications.pdf ok (and grateful), I have learned: in 1080/25p HDV - Standard
optional admitted, what then probably means that it can be supported, but not must, if it is HDV.
Changes but then nothing in the conclusions that the HDV editing software and the Television 25p support must - otherwise it is completely useless.