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Frage von Asjoker:


Hi,

I am what cameras are only still a Newby but I have myself in the last week quite a lot of information (synonymous if I had not really clear what this is especially stupid Focal is concerned) and the buying decision should now slowly coming to the end.

So well but I need the answer to these crucial questions:

1)
Is HDV on a normal television or PC worse than SD (So you have to then somehow "put down" so maybe the quality is worse)?

2)
Is HDV to edit less thought than SD? I will soon buy me a new PC so good s.den system should not lie, but there are other problems (I work with AEcs3)?

3)
Do I need to elaborate what kind of "convert" to HD on a normal television / projector / computer to be able to see?

4)
I've often heard the software HDV is not yet mature. What does that mean and what program? With After Effects, or is it all?

5)
Are there any disadvantages if I have me a MiniDV camcorder buy the HDV and DV can? So can a "hybrid" (which is so hot?) HDV camcorders as well as purely an HD camcorder and DV as well as a pure SD camcorder?

6)
I knew someone from such a camcorder so bad? Have not yet found ... or not in my price range (1000 ¬ + / -)

7)
If there are too many problems with HD, there würd then I would prefer an SD MiniDV camcorder buy.
Until now I like the Panasonic NV-GS500 very good (or the previous model GS400, which indeed seems to be better).
Can anyone give a good recommendation (HD, SD, depending on how the previous questions ^ ^)?


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Oh yeah, my price range would be around ¬ 1000 + / -. I will be recording mostly outside, but actually much synonymous indoors. My Pc is good ... how well I can not say at the moment ... an HDTV television, I have not and I will skip the next few years probably are not synonymous and have a compact camcorder I find more bad than good. I want a pretty heavy after the camcorder and what looks good and you can keep quiet. But that should not be deciding factors;) would be synonymous with what a small satisfied.

Otherwise, I know too little of something yet to be preferred. Would be nice if you could tell me what is good ^ ^ (only the white of the chip / sensor - best 3CCD - as large as possible and it should s.12x zoom is good, otherwise I can not see the data sheet)

So you would really me VERY VERY much help when you next to me a few questions you could answer:) werd going crazy ^ ^

In this sense ever THX in advance!

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Antwort von wolfgang:

HDV was sometimes less suitable for the post - but modern PCs can be a long time. When editing HDV is on today's average system already - at about 3 Ghz upwards (dual core is better). With AVCHD, the situation is even more difficult - but then did not ask you anyway.

And you can basically synonymous SD from HDV material to create very good quality - only this can hold different tools downsizing uneven.

You have to convert his material for playing s.TV always - called rendering or encoding. Is HDV to something as complex of SD - but modern PCs have synonymous particularly great because no longer an issue. But for this you have to stop high-vision devices such as HD ready or full HD LCDs and plasma's advantages.

All today's HDV and HDV devices can SD - filming is usually better in HDV and only later convert to SD (synonymous when almost all the camcorder synonymous with the issue to the PC it can).

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Antwort von jansi:

"Asjoker" wrote: .... Price range would be around 1000 ¬ +/-.... I want a nice heavy camcorder after what looks good and you can keep calm and .....
For ¬ 1000 you get a new HV20, but in no case (beautiful?) Is difficult.
If you're in the next few years do not plan to buy an HDTV, you prefer to look after the NV-GS500, which has a proper viewfinders synonymous.

"Asjoker" wrote: best 3CCD - as large as possible and it should s.12x zoom is good, otherwise I can not see the datasheet
The first true, but the story with the zoom, I think for rubbish! (It's because you need strong magnification, because you good fluid head with a play from a great distance films ....)
For hand-held camera is at 10x magnification you equally bad, a good video of the Eiger in the Focal Easy smooth work then it may cost more than the camera ...

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Antwort von Asjoker:

First Rieß Thanks for the replies! :)

That means the process is no qualitative or similar disadvantages. but only the high system requirements (which are now so synonymous have no preference)

And a movie in HDV, I can easily convert to DV, with a very small (not foreseeable - or?) Auftrit quality loss.

The NV-GS500, I have been longer in the eye and when I synonymous in the juxtaposition of the older models (NV-GS400) nothing sounds good, so the camcorder is in very good total and synonymous to the best SD camcorder I could find.

But why do I have an SD camcorder to buy when the convert of HDV to DV no problem with that is? I then would be my only advantage of the HDTV the difference? (Btw. actually looks like with computers, what can the play?)

Or is it in but there is no good HD MiniDV camcorders in my price range? Or. The NV-GS500 so much better that I still take SD?

Or was I completely wrong and the transformation of HDV to DV weißt larger / visible quality loss?

Danke schon mal:)

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Antwort von wolfgang:

If you are of HDV to SD walking, you get basically a very good picture quality - so you come from a high of Resolutionund going on deep down. Yet this transformation is not entirely trivial - many of the tools can be bad, but rather tools s.den than s.dem fundamental advantage of a higher resolution picture to come. Again depends on what the claims are personal - I am quite happy to convert itself of HDV to SD, from Vegas out. And to me the last result.

The 3-chip NV-GS500 is a good device - I have the predecessor device NV-MX350. Nevertheless, I would not against my FX1 HDV camcorder exchange because I want high-resolution film, and the advantage on my plasma and LCD and quite enjoy to have.

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Antwort von Asjoker:

Thanks again!

So now I am 85% sure that I want an HD camcorder.

But now I've found a camcorder and so the question arises:

Canon HV20 or SonyHDR-HC7?

Have read about misc. The test booklets say I think a total of more good than HC7 than HV20. Here in the forum is yes HV20 Kauftipp as advertised, but yes there are still no test synonymous here ...

What would you say which is better? Has anyone any experience synonymous with one of these?

Would the last question before purchase ^ ^.

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Antwort von wolfgang:

Well testing and experience will find itself, if you want to read a lot:

http://videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?threadid=3695

http://videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?threadid=3445

The HV20 is important to note that one should use additional microphone. Otherwise, many people tend to HV20.

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Antwort von bokii:

I have long synonymous this question. And I have come to an answer. It is not important what the camera can, it is only what you can with your camera.

On the net I came across this website encountered.


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Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"bokii" wrote: On the net I came across this website encountered.
http://www.pinelakefilms.com/short_reel.html
Alles with der Panasonic DVX 100 rotated.

Alles?
"Pinelakefilms" wrote: Approx Runtime: 5 mins ... Original format: HDV2
"Pinelakefilms" wrote: (All films shot using the following cameras: Panasonic DVX100A 24P, Canon XLH1 HD, Canon XHA1)

SD is the latest in a few years dead, you now get less than 4:3 Television 16:9 to buy. In advertising, the trend is clearly to HD, that is synonymous not only since yesterday, so.

"bokii" wrote: and then extrapolated ...
With all due respect, I can digitally zoom synonymous. Since I have rather highly of HD and have a much better aufgelösete base.

I am not saying that SD is bad: WERS has and use it next wants / can, but keep it! Who buys new, HD should choose.
Professionals put any other standards, which are often the customers have the appropriate equipment "forced".

BG
Andreas

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Antwort von bokii:

Ok, there were a few bugs in it. Tschuldigt.

What I really wanted to say was: Who's on Money must look at the purchase of a camcorder, which should not be afraid synonymous today to shoot in SD. For many purposes, it is still insufficient. Look for Example here:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=116315

Sure, in HD would probably be different, but here's looks bad in DV not synonymous.

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Antwort von Markus73:

"bokii" wrote: Sure, in HD would probably be different from

In the mini-player on the website? No, definitely not.

Regards,
Markus

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"bokii" wrote:
Sure, in HD would probably be different, but here's looks bad in DV not synonymous.


The good old 4:3 has its advantages synonymous - to say nothing of the resolution.
Shots of scenery are safe in 16:9 chic - for people I would always be a 4:3 - no preference rather what setting, and even if the news is now there toll, I find a 4:3 picture fits better to the human proportions.

One wonders why "HD" absolutely must be 16:9. Only because of the movie?

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Antwort von Der tolle Hecht:

"bokii" wrote: I have long synonymous this question. And I have come to an answer. It is not important what the camera can, it is only what you can with your camera.

On the net I came across this website encountered.


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