Frage von Titanex7:
I'm just about the HF-100 to buy, let me in 3 months but did not have even better video quality of the series Legria angry.
Could interest me, the S200 RF or RF-200.
The RF-S100 would double the cost, would have a larger sensor than (1 / 2, 6 inches), but synonymous 6MP it.
The RF-200 would be about 200 ¬ more expensive, would have a smaller sensor (1 / 4 inches) and 3MP it.
The RF-100 has 2MP to 1 / 3, 2 inch sensor area, which are theoretically seen the better values but what image noise and Lowlight is concerned, is not it?
I have the good Lowlight properties of the HF-100 important, as I often do not studiobeleuchteten indoor movies.
Since the HF-100 until April will be out, now my question s.Euch.
If the above much better picture quality on my 50 inch plasma will be the HF-100?
Antwort von deti:
I would buy the HF100. Why?
- The new products are technically very likely little better (possibly significantly more noise or watercolor effects by reduced pixel area on the sensor - for example by a factor of 2.4 when 8MPixel-model). Only the zebra function is positive stress.
- Products directly to the On the market since buying leads due to the introduction of high prices, after a short time to a significant price / value loss.
Is there a feature that is crucial for you buy is what the previous models is not available?
A plasma television is in any event from a smaller space than the current HD cameras can deliver. The current comment resolution cameras about the level of 1280x720 - regardless of format, which they encode. It is fairly no preference whether the camera 500 or ¬ 5000 costs (as well in about ;-) - and this is probably a little longer so.
Eventually, the now emerging SLR cameras with video function is a better optical Resolutionbei bring lesser noise. Here come today but only the Canon EOS 5D Mark II in question. However, the high price and the video features still immature however. The model of Nikon (D90) is for serious video applications do not matter, because the actual image resolution when shooting barely surpasses SDTV (see the many other discussions).
Deti
Antwort von meawk:
I have the good Lowlight properties of the HF-100 important, as I often do not studiobeleuchteten indoor movies.
Then ask everyone forget Cam's, which you mentioned in your post did. Lowlight For You either need a lot of money to invest in a (about 3000 Euro and more), but then the D90 and the 5D II is still better (lowlight). Also, the IS is compact CanonSX1 the vast majority of camcorders in Lowlight superior. And the D90 is better - if they can operate manual, as most of you write over it (eg videos, I could see "hundreds" are pure...).
So, if you have a good cam for Lowlight want to buy your ne SX1 IS (about 500 euros), if you want to spend more then you have the choice of D90 (Body plus 1.8 / 50mm approx 1100 Euro - kannste manual control ) or the 5D II (2500 Euro Body, Nikon Lens 1,8 / 50mm about 130 euros, 100 euros; kannste then synonymous manual control). Otherwise you have to deep into the pocket with good things in Lowlightfähigkeiten - over 3000 Euro without borders up.
All common until about 3000 euros to less than Lowlightquali eg Canon SX1 IS Compact and with the can do great photographs. Even the newest products with FP, around 800 to 1600 euros, are m. E. after in Lowlight grotte bad! And that, I said not only times, but have the div with Cam's thoroughly tested. Man, I was of the parts in Lowlight disappointed.
As the boys of the Canon with the SX1 hinbekommen have - great respect! The video has the better package than the 5D II Lowlight already mentioned - the first cream. The autofocus in video mode is sauschnell, you can control manual (staun?), Etc.
You have the choice?
Regards
Antwort von RickyMartini:
For what kind of shots is because of the ever be used?
Antwort von beiti:
The RF-S100 would double the cost, would have a larger sensor than (1 / 2, 6 inches), but synonymous 6MP it.
The RF-200 would be about 200 ¬ more expensive, would have a smaller sensor (1 / 4 inches) and 3MP it.
The RF-100 has 2MP to 1 / 3, 2 inch sensor area, which are theoretically seen the better values but what image noise and Lowlight is concerned, is not it? Not necessarily. Undoubtedly it has for the quality "per pixel" disadvantages if too many pixels on a small chip will be bruised. But when a HD is yes then again at 2 MP runterskaliert, which leveled some of the disadvantages. Modern Image converters have relatively thin webs between the photosensitive elements, ie it is by increasing the resolution no longer as much light is lost. So if the target is a runterskaliertes Picture in a certain resolution (in this case 1920 x 1080 pixels) is playing the number of chip-pixel a much smaller role than the absolute size chip.
In other words, I expect that the HF-S100 existing HF-100 in terms of freedom rather than noise, while I of the HF-200 a slightly worse performance than that of the HF-100 do. That would be synonymous with the price difference is reasonable.
It is only my prediction but due to technical data, the truth, we must wait and see.
Antwort von naich:
Hi meawk ...
That sounds just as if the SX1 all consumer camcorders is superior? Do you really would be the better choice? Even if they are mainly for movies will abuse?
Greetings ...
Antwort von meawk:
Hi meawk ...
That sounds just as if the SX1 all consumer camcorders is superior? Do you really would be the better choice? Even if they are mainly for movies will abuse?
Greetings ... I can only advise you to look at Vimeo and YouTube for videos of the Cam to google, but synonymous in this forum have been "evidence" regarding the Lowlightfahigkeiten delivered. The cam is really good, this is my full and honest opinion. Did they actually bought my daughter and catch me now is that they are synonymous, I often use. That part is really to be recommended.
Lowlight tasting (just off the hand and from the quasi recorded in the night - the original h.264 MOV file is simply staggering - here, unfortunately not in HD, but we recognized very clearly what I mean): http://www.vimeo.com/2824776
And still synonymous: http://www.vimeo.com/2657353
is in HD, but 720p rendered. The original clips are two classes better.
Antwort von beiti:
That sounds just as if the SX1 all consumer camcorders is superior? Do you really would be the better choice? If anything, if you s.exotischen 1080/30p-Format not interfere.
Antwort von Titanex7:
So the SX1 I did not even noticed, but sounds super synonymous, because I would have the same camera included.
Plane grad Still Image & Video to buy, my choice would be the G10 and HF-100.
Do test shots times in MM with the SX1 make.
Did you at the video editing of MOV files SX1 disadvantages compared to the AVCHD MTS files?
In any case I do not want 2 devices in one at the expense of quality.
What is bad s.dem the SX1 AF in low light off?
Antwort von deti:
Did you at the video editing of MOV files SX1 disadvantages compared to the AVCHD MTS files?
Yes: The 25Hz camera can not format, just as is usual in Europe. If you have the video on a normal television or want to see times like this burn a DVD, then you are with a camera rather poorly served. Through the conversion of 30 to 25 Hz Ruckler are ugly, like many of the American TV productions on German television is known.
... and one more thing: The SX1 has no external audio input, so you have no real Microphone? can. I would only use camera when on internet platforms such as YouTube or Vimeo scenes of landscapes or cities without original manufactures. Here, the 30Hz format synonymous no role. For many people ranging from the completely.
What is bad s.dem the SX1 AF in low light off? The problem is caused by the fact that compared to a proper video camera (such as HF100) Instant AF is not possible. This is an external active infrared sensor used to measure the distance to the filmed object to be measured accurately. This can at once be sharp, without iteration. One camera is in the video function only on the sharp image content, which contrasts with low system does not work reliably.
Deti
Antwort von meawk:
Also, the AF synonymous with Lowlight works very well. Ok, if properly dark - night shots, which you anyway with HF 100 hinbekommen None, because everything is totally vergrießelt etc. is because you then enter manual and has a top Lowlightergebnis.
That with the 30p is not a big problem anyway, as has always claimed. For me nothing jerky! Even the original MOV h.264 files run perfectly on my 37 "LCD - and without any bucking.
If I use the clips to a movie together so anyway I render in 720p 25fps and the run on all players s.PC and smooth on my 37 "LCD, with which I usually watch, there are absolutely no problems. The run even s.meinem 1.6 GHz Lapi smooth.
That with the lack of micro-connector is more or less for me a secondary size. The "Steroaufnahmen the SX1 is very good (because I've synonymous gestaunt). And if you want you can yes external Verton.
In this respect - the SX1 IS is a buying tip that is very difficult to beat is.
Antwort von domain:
That with the 30p is not a big problem anyway, as has always claimed. For me nothing jerky! Even the original MOV h.264 files run perfectly on my 37 "LCD - and without any bucking.
If I use the clips to a movie together so anyway I render in 720p 25fps Tip a purchase, just very difficult to beat is. Personally, I just saw that the biggest problem so far and therefore I will for digicams with video function only begin to be interested if Specs times in 25 or 50 fps mentioned. The Primitivumwandlungen of 30 to 25 fps, which I have ever seen running so that every 5th simply Frame has been omitted.
The post play with 25 fps, you can not directly refer to as strong Jerkiness but it bothers already huge.
However, I do not know whether it is synonymous affordable solutions in conventional NL editors there, because without elaborate interpolations, which in fact relate to every single need, I can a conversion of 30 to 25 fps does not really imagine.
Antwort von meawk:
As I said on my calculator (3.6 Ghz Ram 4GBDDR 3) jerky because absolutely nothing.
Vimeo: "This is usually 30, in Europe it's usually 25th If there is s.option that says" current "just go with that. Please note that Vimeo Converts all HD videos up to 24 frames per second for optimum playback performance."
Also of the 5d II or the SX1 IS there repopulated 30fps video or previously rendered at 25fps or clips of Vimeo converted to 24 fps clips all run smooth on my calculator!
"The 50Hz flicker or flicker" is synonymous not an issue for me. If you know how to get by AE-L hold previously adjusted - because sometimes nothing at all.
So I would always synonymous a U.S. version of the European version and I prefer do not understand why some of the Amazon, the U.S. version will have to re-sell - and keep looking forward, I'll tell you, the better your model will have. My opinion.
Antwort von naich:
Hi ..
Sounds interesting!
Is it synonymous with the SX1 only 5min video s.Stück record, as with the Nikon 90D?
Greetings ...
Antwort von beiti:
on my calculator (3.6 Ghz Ram 4GBDDR 3) jerky because absolutely nothing of the [...] Even the 5d II or the SX1 IS there repopulated 30fps video or previously rendered at 25fps or clips of Vimeo to 24 fps converted clips all run smooth on my calculator! One makes your contribution in any case clear: The views, what good motion resolution, and s.wann bucking stört go very far apart. Should certainly be synonymous to how you turn and how much movement there is. For example, a fast moving vehicle or a fast swing show all the shortcomings of a host process immediately. Everything else would be witchcraft.
I personally do not think much of the outset of formats, with only 30, 25 or even 24 frames per second and one synonymous to those in the movie to increase the frame rate to 48 or 60 fps wish.
Who has a camera model, which is eg of 50i to 25p switch, the direct comparison in the debug - synonymous s.videotechnisch unsuspecting "subjects" from his surroundings: Determines 95% of all regular viewers will find the 50-fps version better only hopeless nostalgic movie-like format, the jerky 25p prefer.
And if you (like me) have native 25 fps found unsatisfactory, then 30 fps to 25 fps down right cruel expected. Without costly standard conversion may simply not something to run smooth, no preference how good is the device on which it is displayed.
Antwort von domain:
Can I just stress. Undoubtedly, with complex format conversions including motion vectors and analysis procedures as we know them so of her familiar and Deinterlacingroutinen div pullup or Pulldownmethoden halfway usable results. But only halfway, because you can never in the dark about it, that the majority of frames in mathematically unfavorable fps conversions in the motion picture is not at that time may show, in which they originally were.
That's why my hands off of 30 or 60 fps cameras, only leads to problems.
Antwort von Titanex7:
Thus, as the opening of the theme here's my decision:
She fell on a RF-100 from the MM for 590 ¬. I have yet to me the so much recommended Heliopan IR-103 were purchased. Possibly. is still an additional battery, it currently I can 45min film on my 8GB card would indeed fit 60min.
The Picture in accordance with section PremiereCS4 is wiklich fabulously on my 50Zoll plasma. Ok, Lowlight roars when it is already quite nice, but you can see at least a properly colorful picture.
Echt TOP!
But then I was not prepared to wait for more money? better image quality output. And since I always cut the video and to a 1920x1080 pixel format, adheres to the quality difference may be safely limited.
I think that was the sensible decision between quality and price!
Antwort von Ernesto:
Ok, Lowlight roars when it is already quite nice, but you can see at least a properly colorful picture.
I think that was the sensible decision between quality and price! against the rush to use the spotlight mode here is the gainautomatik disabled, shutter 50 and 25p. in the post-CS4 makes it brighter again, looks better.
viele grüße ernesto
