Infoseite // HV30 light enough for church? (25p and 1 / 25 shutter)



Frage von andi84:


Hello!
As soon made important family events, I want me a camcorder growth. The celebrations will be in the church and held indoors. We urge the Cam Lowlight area reasonably good. Yes I know, strong-Lowlight HD cams cost a few thousand, but I did not ^ ^
So here is my question:
If the HV30 with good shooting under above conditions can be expected? There must be no professional materials to come out, but an orgy of noise must not be synonymous ...
Is that the man with the 25p mode of the HV30 shutter to 1 / 25 can provide? It would be necessary but good results can be achieved is not it? In the church is not fast direction anyway ...
Or rather it suggests a used high-SD-Cam, for example, a GS500?
For Cam, I am open to alternatives, but there must be a tape device.
Many thanks in advance for your help!

edit: I just read that the HV30 very dull-sounding sound recordings should produce even with external Micro? What are your experiences?

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Antwort von Axel:

Shutter 1/25tel looks as if the POV is all a drunk. As always with 25p: 1/50tel.
Is the church of small and dark, it's still the feared noise orgy (with gain). It's hard to change. For large windows make the most amazing Cams. Panel and automatic exposure, shutter speed, but (so) manual. I do not know if the HV30 a "Exp Lock" button, which would be for a short swing pass s.den operable windows, otherwise there's a sudden brightness variations.

External Micro: Quite clearly a Sennheiser MKE 300 and 400, another is possibly cheaper, but in the case thrown out money anyway.

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Antwort von andi84:

Thank you first for the quick reply!
What exactly is bad s.1/25 shutter? I have read that the focus will no longer hold so great to be ...
Regarding Lowlight skills I have a few videos on Vimeo.com viewed. There is some 25p Cinemode clip. For example this one:
http://www.vimeo.com/782690

Lowlight was the quality at first glance not so bad, in any case better than my old Hi-8 Cam ^ ^.

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Antwort von mentao:

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Antwort von WeiZen:

"andi84" wrote: Hello!
As soon made important family events, I want me a camcorder growth ...... Yes I know, strong-Lowlight HD cams cost a few thousand, but I did not .... but an orgy of noise must not be synonymous ...

Then just lend you one for the event on camera rental!
If only for a CameraLink be bought, it is synonymous the posting of a good H-film. Emphasis on "good".

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Antwort von beiti:

"Wheat" wrote: Then just lend you one for the event on camera rental! Would I recommend synonymous when it does not have too many celebrations. For example, you can

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Antwort von andi84:

Hello!
Thank you first for your answers!
That with the lending is for me not really an alternative, as I said in the near future a couple of times a device would have to borrow. Furthermore, I am not sure whether I am with the professional handling of these devices to come legally. Moreover, then there is the size of the devices, discreet shooting is not really possible ...
My choice fell on the HV 30, as raw material on the Internet I've found that Lowlight qualities in "movies" mode display. The quality has surprised me. I also apologize for the Rode Stereo Videomic decided. In another thread, this is recommended because it so as "General Purpose" film is more flexible than with a mono microphone.

Could I possibly have your setup tips for the Church or what need to be considered?
Had before in movies-mode and with 1 / 50 shutter filming.
Thanks in advance!

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Antwort von beiti:

"andi84" wrote: Had before in movies-mode and with 1 / 50 shutter filming. Then you have light-but no advantage over the interlaced recording, you just had to with 1 / 25 second.

In each case, the movie mode adverse movement in terms of resolution. On the Internet, where everything always is converted to full, this may be acceptable, but on a normal television, it is unsatisfactory.

Incidentally, it is in most churches during the day not so dark, that you absolutely outstanding Lowlight skills needs. The same goes for restaurants. Critically, it is at weddings, only if the daylight decreases (eg during the evening dance), but since you will most certainly not with 1 / 25 seconds to film.

My advice: abandon the 25p mode, and throughout the whole film in 50i.

Quote: Could I possibly have your setup tips for the Church or what need to be considered? I would advise you, with additional sound recording equipment and microphones to work, if you want to be sure that one Pastor betrothed and fully understands.
As in most churches on the sound speaker system is transferred, you can perhaps direct the installation of the sound of tap - Not to by synonymous Microphone of one speaker. That sounds more comprehensive than ever with the guidance of several micro-meters.

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Antwort von Ernesto:

Also in the Cinema mode, you can choose between 25pf and 50i, but I advise you refrain from the movie mode for lowlight apply. Choose Spotlight mode and shutter 1 / 25, because only here is auto-gain turned off. Do it if necessary in the post brighter.

VG Alberto

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Antwort von andi84:

Thank you first for the tips!

Quote: Also in the Cinema mode, you can choose between 25pf and 50i, but I advise you refrain from the movie mode for lowlight apply. Choose Spotlight mode and shutter 1 / 25, because only here is auto-gain turned off. Do it if necessary in the post brighter.
The spotlight mode with the sounds interesting! Ich geh mal assume that you have in 25p mode to be filming the 1 / 25 shutter to get.

Quote: My advice: abandon the 25p mode, and throughout the whole film in 50i.
Does that mean that there are problems in the post-production when mixed recordings available in the formats 50i and 25p?

So with the sound that I have yet to consider it would be clear s.besten with multiple microphones to work. But I think I'll just try to be as close as possible to get to come ... But thanks for the tips!

Greetings Andi

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Antwort von beiti:

"andi84" wrote: Quote: My advice: abandon the 25p mode, and throughout the whole film in 50i.
Does that mean that there are problems in the post-production when mixed recordings available in the formats 50i and 25p?
No, because there are no problems. Technically, under HDV - Standard eh recorded everything in 50i, 25p only in that mode, then two fields are the same content. So the editing program "knows" is not in what mode it was.
However, it may look stupid, if you are within a film between the switch (vsauf CRT monitors, where the difference between frames and fields particularly rauskommt).

At best you try all these things through times when you have the camera. Go synonymous quiet times in a church there and do sample recordings, both in terms of the brightness as synonymous with regard to the sound quality.

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Antwort von andi84:

Have been the Cam and the Micro synonymous! Then tomorrow will look at the next church to go play!

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