Frage von JMS Productions:
Hello
I come straight to the point:
I have 2 internal SATA hard disks 250 GB each in size. Had a total of 500 GB. A Sata disk is faster than the other (16 MB cache, the other has only 8 MB of cache). That is why I have the system faster than hard drive formatted and Windows installed on it. I also have 2 external hard disks. One with 250 GB, the other (newer) with 400 GB. Effectively, it is ~ 375 GB.
So far, I have no great respect for how hard disks for an optimum cut s.Besten system can be configured. I have just the video in the editing program created by the folder ... When browsing this forum, I have noticed that there is quite a performance increase would be if I targeted to partition and separate things.
My PC is just freshly formatted, so it is in addition to the fresh Windows install nothing. My programs would be cut the Adobe Production Suite and Magix Video deluxe.
Programs that come to C, I can think of, but how should I proceed next? Where will the raw material out to where my own files (with about 200 MP3s with a large archive s.Liedern, special sounds and Atmos) here? Where should I save my projects? Etc ...
I also now synonymous (in Markus' tip out) before my calculator with regular backups to provide. This must be so now synonymous somewhere?
So once again shown:
2 Internal HDDs á 250 GB
2 External HDDs á 250 GB and 375 GB
Had really great if someone could give tips!
Antwort von hansreinhard:
Hi,
that a hard drive with 16 MB cache is faster than one with 8 MB, vote only for large files. For small files, as the operating system usually moves mean 8 MB cache in case of doubt, a faster input / output, because the smaller cache is filled and emptied faster than the big ones. For the handling of large video / audio files is the plate with the larger cache on the other hand, the better.
I would suggest:
Operating system on the internal disk with the smaller cache, the video / audio / Render the internal files on the disk with 16 MB cache.
The mp3 files and archive sounds can - technically - like on the system disk, since the same play no significant burden on the system partition means, however for a store the mp3's on the second panel speaks, the backup issues and the fact if it in occasionally partially erased, new ones added, etc., because otherwise it would be an undesirable fragmentation of the system disk mean that should be avoided.
What kind of video data do you edit? In DV - HDV files and the data is not as high as that not a fairly modern plate multiple streams simultaneously could play. For HDV or AVCHD files play much more the performance of CPU and RAM play a role.
For backup, I would in any case, an external hard drive use, because only this - if only for backup purposes is connected and otherwise well-behaved in the cabinet rests - has a reasonable back up the data. The data of your editing software should thus synonymous to the 2nd Plate and with gebackuped be. 250 GB, however, surprisingly fast full ....
LG Hans
Antwort von Alan Smithee:
... that a hard drive with 16 MB cache is faster than one with 8 MB, vote only for large files. For small files, as the operating system usually moves mean 8 MB cache in case of doubt, a faster input / output, because the smaller cache is filled and emptied faster than the big ones. For the handling of large video / audio files is the plate with the larger cache on the other hand, the better.
...
This is not so.
Disk cache may be to his advantage at the harddrive off scattered data. If many small files are accessed repeatedly - of which one assumes that they are on different tracks are - they may possibly data from the cache will be fetched. Large files are often grouped as the operating system is written, ie cylinders as possible, so that with a few head positions (head positioning and short routes) can be read. The cache is in such a case, very little, since a large file significantly larger than the cache is, the bulk of the data in such a case anyway of the plate read.
A disk cache does not synonymous emptied.
It holds:
1. Have a lot of help
2. The cache is small, fragmented files are particularly useful
If I were 2 identical plates with different cache sizes had, I would with the larger cache than the system used and the plate with the smaller cache for video - + audio files.
Antwort von JMS Productions:
I would suggest:
Operating system on the internal disk with the smaller cache, the video / audio / Render the internal files on the disk with 16 MB cache. I am unfortunately in the hard area is not made, therefore, synonymous am now somewhat confused, because Alan Smithee is a different opinion. My current configuration is but Alan Smithee's proposal: My Winbugs is currently on the plate with the faster cache. If the wrong now but should be, can be synonymous change quickly!
The mp3 files and archive sounds can - technically - like on the system drive ... ... however for a store the mp3's on the second panel speaks, the backup issues. Yes, that seems logical to me now to be. I would have liked the whole thing as presented (Please comment on or criticize if something should be wrong):
hard drive 1 (faster 16 MB cache): Partition C: Windows + Programs (editing programs, a variety of other programs needed)
Partition D: My Documents (contains mp3s, sound archive, footage, etc)
hard drive 2 (slower 8 MB cache): Partition E: Via FireWire rehearsed "Rohvideos" project files or cutting programs. If necessary, then come here synonymous finished rendered video drauf, rendered cut scenes, etc. ?
External hard drive 1 (the larger with 375 GB): Partition F: backup files (backup disk)
External hard drive 2 (the smaller with 250 GB): Still free - for what else could I use?
What kind of video data do you edit? In DV - HDV files and the data is not as high as that not a fairly modern plate multiple streams simultaneously could play. For HDV or AVCHD files play much more the performance of CPU and RAM play a role. So I do "moment" or DV. Could be that someday synonymous HDV times comes ...
The data of your editing software should thus synonymous to the 2nd Plate and with gebackuped be. I understand that now is not quite. In my previous configuration, the installation programs (Programs only) to C: \ Programs
There is then Magix and Premiere etc installed. The video project files that are created every editing program, I put yes but on hard drive 2 (D partition). That can indeed editing program permanently set, where the program is to create projects. When I restore my system would have, it would partition C with all programs and restoring it would any projects, etc are lost, since these on another drive. I could so immediately after the backup and without residue return to work. Or not?
Thank you for your help :-)
Antwort von hansreinhard:
@ Alan: Well, I read habs differently than you write, but I would be synonymous of you can convince. Generally, however, say all the system administrator, I know that AV Harddisks a large cache should have.
@ JMS
The data of your editing software should thus synonymous to the 2nd Plate and with gebackuped be.
I understand that now is not quite. In my previous configuration, the installation programs (Programs only) to C: \ Programs Uh ... there is a misunderstanding? Cutting data - ie the project data - would be on your D partition, or the E partition. Perhaps the D-partition even better, because you're the e-partition yes probably more times will completely erase, but I think practically, on previous projects (synonymous when the video data is now offline) times quickly fall back to , for example to see what great special effects did you use anywhere.
Whether you incidentally DV - HDV files or edit data in terms of space and absolutely no preference, both have 25 Mbit / sec. On the computing power is used for HDV more. And the long hours Neurendern cut your project before it can play off on HDV will make the difference.
Perhaps you can see the finished films rendered yes on the 2nd + external disk to store any data DVD of them. If you are of an HDV Project a DVD-like video making, you have so s.Ende downkonvertieren to 720 (768) x 576 - BluRay for a later production would be a rendered version of all HDV useful.
As far as my thoughts about this ...
Hans
Antwort von JMS Productions:
Uh ... there is a misunderstanding? Cutting data - ie the project data - would be on your D partition, or the E partition. Perhaps the D-partition even better, because you're the e-partition yes probably more times will completely erase, but I think practically, on previous projects (synonymous when the video data is now offline) times quickly fall back to , for example to see what great special effects did you use anywhere. OK, thanks. I understood.
Now I have a question about SP2 for XP: In some earlier contributions Mark has advised that one should never SP2 with a video system. Now, "unfortunately" is the SP2 in my XP CD already integrated, it is therefore whether or not I will always be installed with. Can you take this position synonymous? Maybe yes Markus expresses itself even. In any case, there was for me until now no funny failures or problems ...
Antwort von hansreinhard:
In some earlier contributions Mark has advised that one should never SP2 with a video system. So all NLE editing systems, I know, this document before SP2. Insofar surprised me Markus' opinion.
LG Hans
Antwort von Alan Smithee:
@ Alan: Well, I read habs differently than you write, but I would be synonymous of you can convince. Generally, however, say all the system administrator, I know that AV Harddisks a large cache should have.
In general: Have a lot of help
I believe that this sentiment still comes from the days when there were special AV plates were then had the plates during the recalibrate operation, ie due to thermal expansion etc. which her brains out and go around the track position to adjust. During this time, of course, no new data. For a constant data stream that time had somehow overcome what one eg a cache may cushion.
A plate for AV data should be rather a high data throughput can deliver (there is a high speed of advantage). AV data normally consist of large files that are grouped as written. Therefore, when accessing a relatively small number of head positioning on a new track is needed.
System files, however, are often small and scattered on the plate and it is usually more common in various system files accessed. Therefore, these requests tend to head more positioning need to be avoided, if the requested data already in the cache to be found.
Thus, it is as good, if the contents of the disk (directory) is in the cache, the operating system must be given to see where the next file (or the next part of a file) will take place on the plate. This is a request, which occurs relatively frequently and without at least one cache each head position (usually even have a bigger way) would have to make.
Antwort von hansreinhard:
... sounds plausible.
Thanks for the info!
Hans
