Frage von Schunck:
Hello,
as already announced in the title, I'm (19 years old, student), in search of a suitable handle for me camera. For some years now, I am sometimes more, sometimes less intensely with the production of extreme sports videos (skateboarding, snowboarding, freeskiing ...) and am now because I am leaving my old Sony and I have not always on the cameras of friends would like to dodge on a new, more professional workhorse instructed. Due to the scope should be "it" an Handle camera, which is why HDV as a system for me for reasons of cost (preferably less than 1000 ¬, because of poor students) should be eliminated - to my knowledge can be, synonymous needed in this price segment only Handycam rise. So come, my reflection after a number of older candidates Sonyand Canon in question. According to my research would be the XM1, XL1, XM2, VX1000, VX2000. From different sides, I have now heard that the VX1000, which presumably s.Günstigsten make it work would be quite faint, the XM1 is not synonymous, however, much better and not so robust. I need a camera to me synonymous with poor conditions are still really good pictures, but well with the Mac (Macbook Pro + FinalCut) together and - as I said - as cheaply as possible is.
What would you advise me? Do you have tips, where it is (apart of Ebay), there bargains? The more I investigate, the more uncertain I will. Hopefully you can help me.
Liebe Grüße,
Flo
Antwort von Bernd E.:
If you have less than 1000 euros a copy can be found, which is technically correct, would be the SonyVX2000 probably the best choice from your list.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von mauriceg@gmx.de:
Read again and again that the VX2000 in the picture quality of the VX1000 is subject ... What does that as with light sensitivity? Is there perhaps a general camera, the list does not appear, but the requirements of justice? What is with the VX9000?
Antwort von Markus:
The VX9000 is / was the shoulder version of the VX1000 and therefore comparable with their optical performance.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Read again and again that the VX2000 in the picture quality of the VX1000 is subject I did years ago with two rotated (unfortunately not at the same time), but this assertion, I can not confirm.
... What does that as with light sensitivity? This rating will win the VX2000 with a clear advantage - now only slightly exceeded their successors of VX2100.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von mauriceg@gmx.de:
Nanu, but the VX2000> at <1000 ¬ to get you really have good luck, right? The XM2 is my observation after yet not quite at 1K to get the XL1 I think certainly not.
Antwort von Markus:
Nanu, but the VX2000> at <1000 ¬ to get you really have good luck, right? Indeed. After all, reaches even the VX1000 (when used in geflegtem condition and fully functional), nor just that brand.
Antwort von mauriceg@gmx.de:
Sorry;) XL1, I have been on eBay for less than 1000 to see go away - supposedly in a good condition. The fact that the VX2000 is not so cheap to have, it is clear to me. I wonder halt, if I was with a VX1000 or XM1 can be happy and that you can tell me more than anyone else. As far as I've noticed, are both really good cameras that are better, it is clear. I just need a solid handle camera with good image quality and acceptable performance synonymous with little light - but this has to under 1000 ¬ to get to, right?
Antwort von fotoralf:
Necessity is the mother of invention, or: What is not in a wallet, then you have to have in mind ...
Have you ever thought about a smaller camera with a simple handle on which? If something craftsmanship with perfectly feasible. Any metal bracket that is screwed s.Stativgewinde bottom and top as a handle is bent.
Then your choice would be affordable (<750 euros), very good quality 3CCD cameras belonging to expand: SonyTVR 900, TVR950, Panasonic NV-GS400 ...
All great cameras, at least as good as a olling VX1000 are clearly new, not years, of a wedding photographer abgenudelt been in all major functions can be operated manual and a foldaway display, which in your subjects to a non-negligible advantage.
Think over it to.
I have even a GS400, which is working s.Mac G5.
Ralf
Antwort von MuFim Productions:
While I understand what you mean but so much sarcasm in a post. Denk s.den but climate change, but this can not be healthy! Be nice to earth!
Antwort von Macmacmac:
Ah, something I can from. At the GS-400 and the TRV 900/950 I had in fact been synonymous thought, thanks for the suggestions. Both have not yet seen below 1000 ¬, with both Ebay just go back over it away: (I'm even synonymous believe that dementia is, in a little more money to invest than you really should - because it is priced but not much seems to take, I will initially s.meinem Henkel wish to hold;) Somebody get XM1 what to tell?
Antwort von fotoralf:
Ah, something I can from. At the GS-400 and the TRV 900/950 I had in fact been synonymous thought, thanks for the suggestions. Both have not yet seen below 1000 ¬, with both Ebay go straight away again drüber Since you have but a few outliers to the top erwischt.
GS400:
Auction 190128301946, 740 euros
Auction 300125292597, 766 euros
TRV900:
Auction 130129060685, 760 euros
A pity, I have all the others from the observation deleted. In the last four weeks in any event, a series of auctions for 890/900/950 and GS400 in the area around 500 to 770 euros to an end. Many of them just over 500 euros.
Ralf
Antwort von Macmacmac:
Then I look again ... Are there any among the three a "Favorites"?
Antwort von fotoralf:
Then I look again ... Are there any among the three a "Favorites"? They are all three well. I have the GS400 (bought for 750 ¬) and am very satisfied. If I had instead of the cheap Sony's getting so I think it would be equally likely.
Very good is the quality of the GS400 in DV-Wide (16:9). Because it suggests the lengths to Sony. In this respect, it is somewhat "future proof".
BTW just seen: the GS400 in auction 260135468566 is actually in more than 900 landed. Now look at you look at the bids over 750 euros. That would have been a common price. The rest have two lunatics are identified below. But this is really not the rule.
Ralf
Antwort von Macmacmac:
16:9 is particularly important to me ... If the GS400 synonymous with low-light well clear?
Antwort von fotoralf:
16:9 is particularly important to me ... If the GS400 synonymous with low-light well clear? After various test reports allegedly a touch better than the 900/950. From my own experience, in any case better than the VX1000, whose low-light performance is not particularly known.
If you like, then mail me (foto ralf at gmx dot de) and you get my phone number. Is simply more relaxed than with the whole Tipperei.
Ralf
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... If the GS400 synonymous with low-light well clear?
After various test reports allegedly a touch better than the 900/950. And still would be that in Lowlightbereich the TRV950 and SonyTRV900 in different leagues play: With the former, I got synonymous with poor light (ok, is a relative term) good pictures, while I look at the successor to 950 due to the expected - and in tests confirmed - Lowlightschwäche then did not have more views closer.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
16:9 is particularly important to me ... If the GS400 synonymous with low-light well clear? Then you can give the VX-1000 have forgotten that the standard can only Bildbeschnitt with because they are not high enough dissolves. You need an expensive
Antwort von Macmacmac:
OK, so 950 is already out. Can me because now somebody XM1 something to say? Have it now so understood: the GS400 would be almost perfect, comes synonymous with low-light well clear (looks like in comparison with the "Queen of the Night" from?), The TRV900 is an alternative would be synonymous with good illustration services, but not quite so Lowlight good behavior. The image stabilizer are all these cameras good? Thanks again for all the information and suggestions ...
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
The GS 400 is good for Lowlight less than the 2nd XM With the XM 1 hab I never filmed - they should but probably not five classes worse than the new XM 2nd The current GS 500 I felt as slightly better than the old GS 400 - although the older model more opportunities to offer.
With the SonyVX 2000 & 2100 proposes the above quite loose - especially in weak light. Stable Sator, I would in all mentioned as very good estimate.
At that time I had with the DM 2 XM and filmed a bit of writing:
panasonic-gs-400-or-canon-XM2 VG
Jan
Antwort von Macmacmac:
Hm, so slow I really wavering ... So I can GS500 synonymous consider? What features are missing compared to the GS400 it because that and what improvements can outweigh?
Antwort von Macmacmac:
Hm, so slow I really wavering ... So I can GS500 synonymous consider? What features are missing compared to the GS400 it because that and what improvements can outweigh? In contrast to the other cams there are still new and with warranty
for under 800, -.
gruß cj
Antwort von Bernd E.:
GS500 ... ... What features are missing compared to the GS400 it because ... A test of the GS500, in which synonymous differences compared to the GS400 are evidence in detail, for example, you can find here:
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/camcorders/0,39029966,49259286,00.htm
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Jan:
Quite rightly, the report but not synonymous, a direct headphone jack I can not find the Camera.
Per adapter connected to a header Phones AV cable - is really what else - I do not know whether the tester thought so.
The LCD is written as 16:9, Zebra, Color Bars missing and a few little things - now the head - is where I long ago the GS 400 in the hand.
New there will be synonymous but not enter - that makes things easier.
VG
Jan
Antwort von fotoralf:
Quite rightly, the report but not synonymous, a direct headphone jack I can not find the Camera. Everything formulated somewhat unfortunate, because in your whole post is not entirely clear what each camera you mean. I will try to arrange something ...
The 400 has a socket, which - depending on the camera function - as a combined AV-Ein/Output or acts as a headphone output. An adapter is not required. The 500 has, in fact, no headphone output.
The LCD is written as 16:9, Zebra, Color Bars missing and a few little things - now the head - is where I long ago the GS 400 in the hand. This applies to the GS500. The GS400 has 4/3- Display, Color Bars and Zebra.
Other differences: the display of the 400 is much bigger, the big adjustment ahead s.der 400 can optionally with Zoom, Focus, Aperture, or time will be occupied, the camera may be the signal from the analog inputs as a DV signal output, etc.
New there will be synonymous but not enter - that makes things easier. The GS400 is unlikely yet. The GS500, however, already.
Ralf
Antwort von Jan:
Yes yes, I had written, as the GS 500 does not know, headphone output, the user, but the there has untergejubelt - Headphones - YES!
VG
Jan
Antwort von harryr.feet:
And why them? Had the GS400 so happy, but at Ebay at the moment everything is damn expensive way: (The VX9000 is quasi IDET with the 1000 - a purely technical point of view, is not it? If so synonymous an alternative?
Antwort von Markus:
The VX9000 is quasi IDET with the 1000 - a purely technical point of view, is not it? I had the
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Antwort von freaky:
True, I Depp;) But it helps me, unfortunately, still not next ... the GS400 would be great, but why them?
