Infoseite // Hi8 better than MiniDV?



Frage von TheRealBart:


Hi,

Unfortunately, I was my very expensive MiniDV camcorder upscale stolen. Since I am unfortunately at a reasonable Camera'm instructed, but to me the money for a new MiniDV camera is missing, since I consider a very good long-Hi8 camera to buy. I am thinking for example s.eine Canon ex 1
The camcorder can, thanks to its 1 / 3 inch chips, very good pictures and is a member of the professional class in the analog area and may be a purely technical point of view with digital camcorders measured.

Now my question:
How do I get the analog material without loss of quality on my calculator? The normal DV material is already compressed and so you can use it for blue screen shots hardly used. Therefore, the path over a "digital Hi8 camcorder" already gone.
How can I do with most analogue material quality (possibly even better than MiniDV) to get my calculator? I am thinking synonymous s.BlueScreen shots. Are there any Hi8 cassette recorder, the cassette inserted immediately Digitizer and via Firewire (iLink) Calculator s.meinen send? As such devices are called and what is recommended?

I would like to look for myself, but I simply lack the keywords on which I could find something. Can anyone help me there?

Thanks in advance

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Antwort von Login_vergessen:

I'm not sure, but my Sony Digital8 "camcorder (TRV345E, etc.) have a Firewire port and the synonymous process Hi8 format. Whether the material before the analog output is compressed, I do not know ...

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Antwort von dernightdj:

ADVC-300 is now äh of Canopus Grass Valley

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Hi8 will never be better than DV.

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Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"Login_vergessen" wrote: I'm not sure, but my Sony Digital8 "camcorder (TRV345E, etc.) have a Firewire port and the synonymous process Hi8 format. Whether the material before the analog output is compressed, I do not know ...
Moin,
not all can SonyDigital8 camcorder Video 8 / Hi 8 editing. Recording goes - as far as I know - not at all, play is at least the TRV140E is also not possible.
BG
Andreas

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

"TheRealBart" wrote: How do I get the analog material without loss of quality on my calculator? The normal DV material is already compressed and so you can use it for blue screen shots hardly used. Therefore, the path over a "digital Hi8 camcorder" already gone.
The path through a Digital8 camcorder (Hi8 of synonymous Digitizer may be) is with the safety and best streßfreieste. Technically, Digital8 DV - better than DV quality will not be.

I understand your reservations about DV but not - the color resolution of DV is higher than that of Hi8/S-VHS, the sharpness (the format, what Optics / chip on the tape bring is another story) are comparable. Also, the external solutions mentioned here are only of Canopus DV quality. DV is compressed within the picture, only you can see motifs s.ausgesuchten errors / limitations of the data reduction. (Very common is bush or forest.)
If you is not enough, I would like to completely DigiBeta or something to change ...

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Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"Quadruplex" wrote: (...) The color resolution of DV is higher than that of Hi8/S-VHS, (...)
because I found that:
Quote: Because what the recording of Farbträger is concerned, even the old DV format High8 inferior, it saves just half as much color information (see Digital rotation). DVCPRO50 exception: here is the same color as Hi8, Beta SP, etc. are recorded.

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

"Andreas_Kiel" wrote: and am now somewhat confused ;-)
Allow PAL and NTSC system requires a bandwidth / color resolution of 4:1:1, 4:1:1 NTSC DV, PAL DV 4:2:0. When NTSC's also been true of the system parameters agree with PAL-DV has been compared with analogue PAL nominally one about the half-reduced vertical color resolution. This corresponds in practice but the effect of the PAL technique: The recipients are always the color averaged about two lines. This compared with less vertical NTSC color is not significant, the Farbstabiliät (for analog broadcast) of PAL to NTSC but clear.
Insofar as the standards. Video8/Hi8, VHS / S-VHS are characterized but not the full PAL or NTSC spectrum. Prior to the storage on tape, the high frequency PAL or NTSC Farbträger (4.43 MHz) at 627 KHz (for VHS, Video8, please look yourself) lowered its limited bandwidth. The usual amateur supply systems are not times 4:1:1.
In practice, there is another problem to me what the statement of your source for at least dared to hold up to scrutiny: Video / S-VHS (and I mean synonymous Video8/Hi8, lack of equipment, I can not check) the color shift when you play against the corresponding black portion of the image to one or two lines. If you look at the latest s.Testbild evident when the color of the color down expires. DV has this quirk and not with studio-quality and good conditions for bluescreens have those restrictions on the amateur-to-analog systems do nothing to ...

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Antwort von Markus:

"Quadruplex" wrote: VHS / S-VHS (and I mean synonymous Video8/Hi8, lack of equipment, I can not check) shift in the color reproduction compared with the corresponding black portion of the image to one or two lines.
Is synonymous with the 8mm formats so. Depending on the camcorder, you can see the difference or there are hardly any whole two TV lines. This can be seen during the transfer with appropriate equipment is correct, but the effort would be in DV do not need.

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

"Mark" wrote: Is synonymous with the 8mm formats so. Depending on the camcorder, you can see the difference or there are hardly any whole two TV lines.
I am reassured that I still am not totally calcifies - my last contact with her Video8/Hi8 is eternal ...
For VHS / S-VHS was always an indicator of some top model of Hitachi and JVC (and the respective identical), only one line Farbversatz to have - all it's gone has had with affordable cost would not gekriegt. I suppose this is similar to Video8/Hi8 ...
"Mark" wrote: This can be seen during the transfer with appropriate equipment is correct, but the effort would be in DV do not need.
Ebent ...

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