Frage von felixhues:
Hello everybody!
I work in an honorary volunteer hospital television. We have planned on a fairly big festival in our town to make a report.
And it is well known that there (like on all the pretty folk) s.Jugendliche alcohol is sold.
That is what we want in front of the (hidden) camera test and the organizer (the city) to confront. I (15) then buy beer, etc. ..
For the technical:
We want the whole with a small, compact camcorder, capable of in a bag with a hole is hidden. To fit the image we wanted to draufzukriegen possibly a fisheye attachment use. For the sound would have been different microphones available.
? Would it a ball or a directional micro take? There is in any case fairly sound and you will hear my voice.
And do you have something, or something similar ever made and have tips for me?
Schonmal Thanks in advance!
PS.: Please, no reconnaissance stations. Since we know about it, faces are verflimmert / soft or otherwise defaced. Votes may be alienated.
Antwort von Login_vergessen:
I would get a lavalier micro broadcasting recommend, for the sound of the Opposite a kidney or Super Cardioid.
With a micro-ball, you have probably too much Atmo drauf.
Antwort von felixhues:
Excuse my ignorance, cardioid / super-cardioid directional micro =?
For lavalier: We have unfortunately (yet) only those with cables) -:
For wireless microphones simply lacks the money ...
Antwort von C.I.W:
Have just so:
Do get a Ansteckmikro that under your t-shirt is hidden and you can also have an indicative micro from your pocket watch.
PS: If it is, I would Lens on a polarizer on it, because otherwise you can identify the lens. With the polarizer, one sees the Lens then barely
Antwort von Login_vergessen:
Excuse my ignorance, cardioid / super-cardioid directional micro =?
These terms Googelst du s.besten as synonymous graphics you'll find what the whole thing then do something intelligible.
Cardioid / Supercardioid take the sound mostly from the direction in which they are addressed.
If noise almost completely disappears, there are mics with "lobe pattern" (these are "right" directional microphones).
If, however, because the Microphone little from the direction of the sound source rotates, the sound is gone ... for a hidden work can lead to problems.
Antwort von felixhues:
Have just so:
Do get a Ansteckmikro that under your t-shirt is hidden ... But like I said, we do not have a wireless lavalier and because if a cable from the pocket of the camera to me rueberhaengt is not grad soooo normal.
But if we are still a wireless microphone can borrow, how close the s.einem 08/15 camcorder to? (about the microphone port, it is clear to me already, but how will the Micro Power?)
And I know synonymous only with a not too small antenna have ... ) -:
Antwort von Login_vergessen:
The wireless microphone is connected with a transmitter, it can be synonymous with the micro power. Where the "cheaper" but not usually available and usually synonymous sooo not of importance.
The antennas of transmitter and receiver (at least on camera recipients) are small.
But alternatively, could you but synonymous "open" spin. This is with a consumer camera but did not give up. Could then a group of young people look who are visiting the filming folk ...
Antwort von Bilingual:
Ok, then we must look at times, whether we are somewhere a wireless microphone can borrow.
Where else might Tips to Sound and Picture?
Thanks in advance ...
Felix
Antwort von Bilingual:
Exciting Project;)
Antwort von felixhues:
Exciting Project;) Yes, only allowed my classmates throughout saufenden not know, otherwise I bullied or so ...(-;
I boeser but which guy can not turn off the tap beer ...
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Antwort von Bilingual:
Exciting Project;)
Yes, only allowed my classmates throughout saufenden not know, otherwise I bullied or so ...(-;
I boeser but which guy can not turn off the tap beer ...
zum Bild lol - a lot of fun and show times here but the movie;)
Antwort von Bilingual:
I recommend the SonyXC999 and the Lavaliervariante. Synonymous Had a complete "bag" here.
harley
Antwort von felixhues:
I recommend the SonyXC999 and the Lavaliervariante. Synonymous Had a complete "bag" here.
harley And where we can get the Camera (s.besten free) and her s.was for a recorder will close them? And how to use the recorder mobile and without external power?
Antwort von robbie:
And where we can get the Camera (s.besten free) her ... Are you serious?
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
(...) I have worked voluntarily at a hospital volunteer television. (...) and
(...) And where we can get the Camera (s.besten free) ago (...) I have already seen many Dussel questions, but this here, it proposes to lengths!
If you actually realize this project is to test ... googel busy times for "legal personality" and synonymous under Penal Code Section 201. For you specifically, I have just my Juris angeworfen and give you times this feed:
LG München I 9
Chamber for Commercial Matters, Decision Date: 04.05.2004, number: 9 HKO 11155/03
Summary: the prelude one without the consent of the person depicted recorded videotape is a violation of § 201 para
1 No. 2 StGB dar. Was the person secretly recorded in the name of a company that is synonymous omission make a claim under § § 823, 1004 BGB .
BGH 3rd
Criminal Senate Decision Date: 09.04.1986, number: 3 StR 551/85
Motto: Outside of the regulated telecommunications monitoring, it is synonymous in cases of serious crime generally is inadmissible, which is not publicly spoken words of the accused through a him kept hidden interception system on tape, in
order to type and manner of his conversation as evidence against his will to be able to exploit. The second verdict was directed against investigators, in violation of the RAF because of the murder of Hans-Martin Schleyer identified and sound recordings are made. If the record at this kind of serious inadmissible, then compare the times with the sale of alcopops a Sixpack s.Jugendliche:
falls on what you like? Nice day
Andreas
Antwort von felixhues:
And where we can get the Camera (s.besten free) her ...
Are you serious? No, of course not. Quite so naive, I am not synonymous. (-;
I just wanted to say that we probably can not afford. We need to probably (unfortunately) with his normal consumer camcorder replacement.
Gruss,
Felix
Antwort von felixhues:
If you actually realize this project is to test ... googel busy times for "legal personality" and synonymous under Penal Code Section 201.
The second verdict was directed against investigators, in violation of the RAF because of the murder of Hans-Martin Schleyer identified and sound recordings are made. If the record at this kind of serious inadmissible, then compare the times with the sale of alcopops a Sixpack s.Jugendliche: falls on what you like?
Nice day
Andreas Na but I do the same!
Here is the entire paragraph:
Section 201
Violation of the confidentiality of the word
(1) By imprisonment for up to three years or with fine will be punished, who is incompetent
1. not publicly spoken word of another on a recording or phonogram
2. Recording such a needed product or a third party makes available.
(2) will also be punished, who is incompetent
1. not to his knowledge of certain non-publicly spoken words of another with an interception and listening device
2. under paragraph 1 No. 1 recorded in accordance with paragraph 2 or No. 1 bugged is not publicly spoken of another word in the text or its essential content, according to publicly notify.
The deed in sentence 1 No. 2 is an offense only if public notification is appropriate, legitimate interests of another being affected.
It is not unlawful if the public notice to exercise paramount public interest is made. (3) With the prison sentence of up to five years or with fine will be punished, who as an office or as a public service for the particular duty of confidentiality of the word violated (paragraphs 1 and 2).
(4) The attempt is punishable.
(5) The sound recording and listening devices to the perpetrators or participants has used can be confiscated. § 74a shall be applied.
Paragraph end!
I see the bold point as to totally satisfied! Is it not in the public interest, one of our society tolerated offense / uncover illegality and the City (as the organizer of the festival) in order to confront?
Antwort von C.I.W:
Why then? I totally accurate because what he does. If the city is nichht worry about it, whether under 16 years of senseless drunk ...
Antwort von robbie:
Hmm, the basic idea s.sich is completely OK!
Only the execution .. naja ...
"Default" is such a project for television following way:
Choose 2-3 Jugenlich in on age, mostly friends of related editors, referred to as "decoy" to act and give their consent, to be filmed.
These young people will then try alcohol / cigarettes / drugs / women to buy and with a s.Körper mounted camera to film the process. These filmed faces of bystanders and people involved are made unrecognizable. The voice of the seller is defaced and with subtitles for a better understanding made "visible".
Thereafter, it is noted that the young drinks / cigarettes / drugs / ... not consumed, but things were disposed of.
Done.
Maybe the location of the outside show yet, just defaced with writing, but where everyone still knows where it is ;)...
Antwort von felixhues:
We had actually thought that we both camcorder as synonymous Micro fastened in a pocket. This contributes a second and then keeps them on what's happening on it.
With a hidden camera to film himself, it is probably difficult ...
That reminds me grad; another volunteer has a small Tuerspionkamera. The quality is not sooo great, but halfway acceptable.
Only supplied as a (mini) DV / DVD recorder in a pocket with electricity?
Antwort von Babaluba:
... if the stakeholders / ones filmed after turning shed and he agrees that the material may be used, everything should not be a problem ...
(okay the hosts here then maybe in a bad light, because yes gesetzeswiedrig traded, is another matter, that is questionable to obtain consent)
the defaced with the verblurren is certainly the best solution (perhaps synonymous nor distort voice) There is a clearer sound eh soooo not important and can be synonymous Cheap Mikros hernehmen (if necessary subtitles)
Antwort von felixhues:
the defaced with the verblurren is certainly the best solution (perhaps synonymous nor distort voice) There is a clearer sound eh soooo not important and can be synonymous Cheap Mikros hernehmen (if necessary subtitles) So very ordinary microphones, we have probably already ...
I was just not sure whether a ball head for the cause is geiegnet.
Gruss,
Felix
Antwort von C.I.W:
Ball mics are really only suitable for the song where the singer, the Micro s.seinem mouth tightly holds. What you need is a directional mic, so it has less noise. So one should your transmitter but have determined.
Antwort von felixhues:
Ball mics are really only suitable for the song where the singer, the Micro s.seinem mouth tightly holds. What you need is a directional mic, so it has less noise. So one should your transmitter but have determined. Yes clearly, we have directional microphones. But if this is partly something in the wrong direction is kept, is the desired sound off - or not?
Antwort von C.I.W:
Well, that is so bad it is not synonymous again. The best quality you only if the Micro fits the sound source is addressed. However, because the sound is not always so important, plays no role.
Even if a sound source is behind the microphone is, you'll still hear it.
Antwort von Harley:
I recommend the SonyXC999 and the Lavaliervariante. Synonymous Had a complete "bag" here.
harley
And where we can get the Camera (s.besten free) and her s.was for a recorder will close them? And how to use the recorder mobile and without external power? Get it for me completely free including recorder for your Project.
camtv (daszeichen) arcor.de
And by the way, with all legal Gelaber here ,.... if the guys want to do that, then that is ok. We are synonymous nor a constitution and a press law .... I can be happy to help out as a professional ......
The main thing is yes, the questioner wants his protagonists pixels .... and so it may all!
LG Harley - of war correspondents
Antwort von Harley:
If you actually realize this project is to test ... googel busy times for "legal personality" and synonymous under Penal Code Section 201.
The second verdict was directed against investigators, in violation of the RAF because of the murder of Hans-Martin Schleyer identified and sound recordings are made. If the record at this kind of serious inadmissible, then compare the times with the sale of alcopops a Sixpack s.Jugendliche: falls on what you like?
Nice day
Andreas
Na but I do the same!
Here is the entire paragraph:
Section 201
Violation of the confidentiality of the word
(1) By imprisonment for up to three years or with fine will be punished, who is incompetent
1. not publicly spoken word of another on a recording or phonogram
2. Recording such a needed product or a third party makes available.
(2) will also be punished, who is incompetent
1. not to his knowledge of certain non-publicly spoken words of another with an interception and listening device
2. under paragraph 1 No. 1 recorded in accordance with paragraph 2 or No. 1 bugged is not publicly spoken of another word in the text or its essential content, according to publicly notify.
The deed in sentence 1 No. 2 is an offense only if public notification is appropriate, legitimate interests of another being affected. It is not unlawful if the public notice to exercise paramount public interest is made.
(3) With the prison sentence of up to five years or with fine will be punished, who as an office or as a public service for the particular duty of confidentiality of the word violated (paragraphs 1 and 2).
(4) The attempt is punishable.
(5) The sound recording and listening devices to the perpetrators or participants has used can be confiscated. § 74a shall be applied.
Paragraph end!
I see the bold point as to totally satisfied! Is it not in the public interest, one of our society tolerated offense / uncover illegality and the City (as the organizer of the festival) in order to confront? Bingo! A festival is public? ... or .....?
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Bingo! A festival is public? ... or .....? ... In this sense, it is not. The question is whether the person who recorded his speech synonymous accessible to those who wanted to make, then later gets to hear.
When two of the station is, in the public. I should listen, do not go away. Voice recorder is not switched on.
The public interest, which some see here is quite sure where - but it takes place (as in the guidelines of the target sentences) as a balance from what is now predominant.
So a risk ...
BG
Andreas
Antwort von felixhues:
I recommend the SonyXC999 and the Lavaliervariante. Synonymous Had a complete "bag" here.
harley
And where we can get the Camera (s.besten free) and her s.was for a recorder will close them? And how to use the recorder mobile and without external power?
Get it for me completely free including recorder for your Project.
camtv (daszeichen) arcor.de
Hi, ich hab dir grad trying to write an email, but only one of Arcor get mail that they could not be delivered?!
Is it secure the right? (do not worry I have the sign replaced by @ ;-)
Oh, and sometimes Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnkeee!
Antwort von Harley:
jo ... ich mach mal equal the mailbox empty ...... -)
Antwort von Harley:
Bingo! A festival is public? ... or .....?
... In this sense, it is not. The question is whether the person who recorded his speech synonymous accessible to those who wanted to make, then later gets to hear.
When two of the station is, in the public. I should listen, do not go away. Voice recorder is not switched on.
The public interest, which some see here is quite sure where - but it takes place (as in the guidelines of the target sentences) as a balance from what is now predominant.
So a risk ...
BG
Andreas andreas @ Kiel
Are you enthusiastic about a law student?
My Tip: Not too busy, otherwise you lose processes .... * lach *
then when it would go, would I as a investigative journalist and former war correspondents for 20 years with preventive detention in prison squat ....... There is fortunately a press law .... and may, according to the press by GG any actions include the protection and enjoy .....
... and what if guys drinking flat against the wish to make, I will support them - both physically as synonymous informally ....
Guuude
Rene
Antwort von felixhues:
I can somehow you still can not write ...
Why has the forum here synonymous not only the opportunity to write personal messages ... :-(
Antwort von Harley:
PO is now free.
Antwort von Harley:
0175 730 739 1. ... Abuse by "Totpinkeln" punished! ;-)
Antwort von PowerMac:
Public interest equal to the public.
Antwort von Harley:
PowerMac Hey .... what are you doing back here?
Do you have a home?
lol
LG rene
Antwort von C.I.W:
His hunting ground is the Slashcam Forum ....
............ His sayings are mercilessly ......
...... his opponents: Film beginners and Windows users ...
......... Use around the clock for Powermac ....
........ our ruin is their job ..........
Antwort von Harley:
His hunting ground is the Slashcam Forum ....
His sayings are ............ ...... Mercilessly
...... his opponents: Film beginners and Windows users ...
......... Use around the clock for Powermac ....
........ our ruin is their job .......... och honest? arms ... should I look at him a beer invite?
... the other is still to Pixel Monster ... or frame-zombie ....
,,, but all HD hihi ;-)
Antwort von PowerMac:
PowerMac Hey .... what are you doing back here?
Do you have a home?
lol
LG rene Here. No..
Antwort von Harley:
PowerMac Hey .... what are you doing back here?
Do you have a home?
lol
LG rene
Here. No.. .... believe me ....... the bet is no one to thank you! And a Federal Cross of Merit, there is synonymous net .....
I know now but wos tasty beer there - and since I now go out
until tomorrow, Folks!
Antwort von felixhues:
PowerMac Hey .... what are you doing back here?
Do you have a home?
lol
LG rene
Here. No..
.... believe me ....... the bet is no one to thank you! And a Federal Cross of Merit, there is synonymous net .....
I know now but wos tasty beer there - and since I now go out
until tomorrow, Folks! Good thirst!
Antwort von mcdirk:
I know now but wos tasty beer there - and since I now go out
of I grad to come forth ... only that it was wiskey beer instead ...
and somehow reminds me powermac in this moment s.dr. house. if you do not hate him, you love him. and I love dr. house, because he says exactly the right!
but .... why is because every thread here to discuss death? legal niceties are at this job about the same as the tact when cut. and, what felix here plans to gehöärt gefördet! this is (unfortunately?) the future.
Antwort von PowerMac:
These legal niceties but are constitutively nunmal to work as a journalist. There was "public" with "public interest" equated. "(...) A festival is public? (...)" Without a single seminar in (public) media law should be this difference clear. That's baloney! And the guise of public interest within the meaning of expression and freedom of the press or the public opinion for investigative format is clearly of the personal rights of individuals restricted. Just recently, the decisions of the Constitutional Court and by the BGH, which is based on rigid interpretations of EKRK by European courts are based, tend to the page of the complainant (Caroline ruling, contrasting examples: August of Hanover in speeding). Specifically ausgeschaukelt: "(...) where the importance of information for informing the public and to public opinion clearly outweigh the disadvantages which the breach of the law for those affected and the scope of the legal proceedings being taken must (...)" (BvR 272 / 81).
Ergo: s.Ende implied consent of the action obtain. If not pixels. And know that you can be prosecuted civil. Always consider whether the public interest it is really worth.
Reading: http://medienweb.de/recht_versteckte-kamera.html
Antwort von mcdirk:
Ergo: s.Ende implied consent of the action obtain. If not pixels. And know that you can be prosecuted civil. Always consider whether the public interest it is really worth.
Reading: http://medienweb.de/recht_versteckte-kamera.html I am pretty sure we will not get consents. For pixels anyway, we have before.
The public and public interest is so not the same, this is clear to me naturally!
Antwort von felixhues:
Oh, I was logged garnicht grad ...
The interest outweighs the public transport, I think in this case already!
Antwort von PowerMac:
(...) The public and public interest is so not the same, this is clear to me naturally! The same anyway, no more than the same, but not synonymous.
Antwort von felixhues:
(...) The public and public interest is so not the same, this is clear to me naturally!
The same anyway, no more than the same, but not synonymous. GRRRRRRRRRRR .... you Klugsch ..... ;-)
Antwort von mcdirk:
AZ: 6130 Js 2226235/07
Prosecutor at the LG Darmstadt.
Procedure § 170 because StPO set ....
one of many ..............
Antwort von pgroe:
BTW get the guys from "Harley" is not only assisted ,.... wenns but must be synonymous protection .....
.... and then of SWR, ZDF and Sat1/ProSieben group, including the N24!
LG Harley
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Are you enthusiastic about a law student? No.. Lawyer. My study, I have already thirteen years :-)
BG
Andreas
Antwort von PowerMac:
BTW get the guys from "Harley" is not only assisted ,.... wenns but must be synonymous protection .....
.... and then of SWR, ZDF and Sat1/ProSieben group, including the N24!
LG Harley Clear. The first one (that you are helping them) that I believe you. Why should the SWR, ZDF or a broadcasting group, which includes grasshoppers, because help? I can already see the headlines: "Boudgoust and Nellessen deal for young filmmakers of hospital transmitter" And: "Sat1 creates messages to instead for the freedom of the press to fight"
Antwort von SpeedyScream:
BTW get the guys from "Harley" is not only assisted ,.... wenns but must be synonymous protection .....
.... and then of SWR, ZDF and Sat1/ProSieben group, including the N24!
LG Harley
Clear. The first one (that you are helping them) that I believe you. Why should the SWR, ZDF or a broadcasting group, which includes grasshoppers, because help? I can already see the headlines: "Boudgoust and Nellessen deal for young filmmakers of hospital transmitter" And: "Sat1 creates messages to instead for the freedom of the press to fight" Why not?
Do you they are not as loyal?
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Antwort von Tobias Claren:
So if you want to do something public (uncensored), then nobody can have a disincentive.
Non-legislative, executive or judiciary.
It is unfortunately still far too rare and, unfortunately, often restrained, but on sites like Indymedia (State Poldi-price-appreciation of the Constitution and observe [a kind synonymous award]) are synonymous and secret recordings unverfremdet photos uploaded.
There is no way by police or public prosecutor or ruling of a judge from allowing someone to publish something.
Or. after the deletion of a Page on the influence of these bodies have made it somewhere else or on your own domain abroad (whose U.S. provider eg police and judiciary to ignore if it is not against U.S. law and it must first request to the FBI) to upload .
Of course one has one or more backup copies on the Internet.
On Microsoft Live, there are 5GB Space.
Even if one's empty stall and the originals will be one always has a copy. Or. several.
Live, GMX, and additional online storage of the existence of police and judiciary do not know. Or. where the two do not have access to it.
And if it is online, and they know that it was, they can only watch (that Page is online) and do not do. Possibly. begging that it be removed.
They are hardly the Page can hack.
If caught, would the host may be a breach of criminal report.
Weiter so ... Filming synonymous times policemen hidden (rail height, notorious streets, Amüsiermeilen [Hohenzollernring, cologne, etc.]). Everything in behavior or tone of a police officer should not do. In Berlin or Hamburg are synonymous transport inspectors or "security people" a good subject. Since vanishes synonymous times when a ticket inspector and he will be uncomfortable if a passenger does not fit.
This could be synonymous young adults in a Golf 2 s.der Dutch / German border and herfahren leave out.
Possibly. found in controls after the wrong drug behavior.
PS I would if I have the planning in the vehicle schrafen pepper or chili powder distribute,-D.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Even if one's empty stall and the originals will be ... On what ideological crusade because you're riding? With your "good tips", which incidentally in this forum absolutely nothing to do with that, it is not, however, that you are familiar with house searches. Otherwise, you have to contribute only shake his head.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Login_vergessen:
Na, dann mach mal, Hausmeister Krause ...
You seem so a real Stinkstiefel to be when you own with "halbseidenen" means the alleged mistakes of others denounce want.
But who has the Hohenzollernring for a Amüsiermeile keeps ...
The basement light still burns.
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
There is no way by police or public prosecutor or ruling of a judge from allowing someone to publish something.
(...) I do not know what you smoke it. I can but s.eine recently fallen out similar statement: "I can gaaaar nix, I did anyway just Hartz IV" (contrary to an attorney). The guy is simply retracted and may take a whole lot cleaner, because filtered air to breathe.
And whosoever believes anonymous times "what upload to ... and synonymous to remain anonymous ... because of that we can not force you. Ever thought of what belongs Erzwingungshaft?
Antwort von Quadruplex:
Weiter so ... Filming synonymous times policemen hidden (..) Apart of your "tips": The discussion is a year old ...
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