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Frage von Markus:


Last updated: 03.10.2007 - No longer maintained

Hi All,

out and back problems with devices (camcorder, recorder, connect, A / D converter, ext. harddisks, ext. on the burner), which Firewire (= IEEE1394 = iLink = DV ) s.den Calculator angeschlossen sind. Diese Probleme rühren jedoch oft of Ursachen, die mehr oder weniger schnell behoben werden können.

In den meisten Fällen sind nach meinem derzeitigen Eindruck drei der u.g. Ursachen besonders häufig s.Nichtfunktionieren der Firewireverbindung Schuld: Das Service Pack 2 of Windows XP, ein minderwertiges Firewirekabel sowie ein Defekt des DV -Anschlusses s.Camcorders.

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on per Firewire (= IEEE1394 = iLink = DV ) s.den Calculator angeschlossen sind. Diese Probleme rühren jedoch oft of Ursachen, die mehr oder weniger schnell behoben werden können.

In den meisten Fällen sind nach meinem derzeitigen Eindruck drei der u.g. Ursachen besonders häufig s.Nichtfunktionieren der Firewireverbindung Schuld: Das Service Pack 2 of Windows XP, ein minderwertiges Firewirekabel sowie ein Defekt des DV -Anschlusses s.Camcorders.

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g of folic noted errors occur:

" Directly connected device is not recognized
" Capture not possible
" Dropped frames when capturing
" Picture-and Tonfehler at capturing

G mö tion causes:

1. Windows XP with SP2
2. Firewire Cables
3. Virus scanner (or other program) running in the background
4. The hard drive is highly fragmented
5. Not enough free space on the hard drive
6. Unsuitable Capture Software
7. Conflict of Firewire card with other PC components
8. DirectX version is not currently
9. Firewire cable defective
10. DV port s.Camcorders broken
11. OHCI FireWire card is not capable of
12. Misc.

How then are vorzu g is:

To isolate the fault quickly and systematically, should begin the following steps: connecting a DV camcorder s.eigenen another PC, connect the camcorder's s.einem another PC and finally the whole even with a new (better and safe working) Firewire cable.

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1st Operating System Windows XP with SP2

In many cases, an error (or feature?) Service Pack 2 (SP2) of Windows XP debt s.Nichtfunktionieren the Firewire connection. In the past, has shown that it alone is apparently not SP2, but that is something like a cross-sensitivity between SP2 and a hard-or software component must occur. Unfortunately, not yet known which factors play a role here.

Often proper operation under Windows XP is available as soon as SP2 was uninstalled. Although it has been synonymous published a patch of Microsoft, but this only helps in very, very, very few cases, to fix the problem with. The described problems may only come on suddenly, after weeks and months of flawless working!

In the event that it is not possible to uninstall SP2, for example, because it is an integral part of the installation CD that has been described as a workaround for some time that the posting of Ronny Problem with DV -Capture
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Antwort von BamBamBummBumm:

Summaries g:

Common Problems with a DV recorder could be solved with a firewire repeaters) (for details see the text below.


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Hello Marcus,

came across by chance on this story. Whether what I have to say relating to Firewire on this list might be helpful, I do not unfortunately.

As I earlier this year had converted my video editing machine, I bought myself a Canopus DV Raptor RT2 Max, a ADVC-50 installed and I gained the editing software Edius.

My stationary DV recorder "Panasonic NV-DV 10000" I've connected via Firewire with my DV Raptor. If I were now in Edius capturing or Project with "Print to Tape" print on tape, I was constantly struggling with crashes. I soon became Insane, (neither really tried the Canopus were) you could help me, still with the firm (Magic Multi-Media in Munich) where I've bought all the stuff. So I looked around me in various forums. In a forum I saw a post where a user reports of similar problems. He had been able to overcome his problems with the fact that he has switched into the Firewire cable from a Firewire repeater, so that something like a Firewire hub. It is an active repeater with external power, not as one of several USB hub known to be so powered from the USB port with power. These work like a kind of repeater amplifiers.

Then I walked a short hand for electronics and Conrad had gained me such a repeater. From that day s.waren synonymous eliminated my problems and belonged to the past. With this tip, I could help some other people had in the meantime. Maybe this tip helps so synonymous with in your collection to see that people in here have to struggle with the similar problems. So that was it ...

Greeting Ferdi

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Antwort von Markus:

Hi Ferdi,

Thanks for your note. One or the other users will be grateful to you for your description sure! :-)

PS: I put a brief summary of your text prior to this thread for further posts will remain clear. ;-)

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Antwort von derron:

Hi Mark,

very informative thread here!
Unfortunately he has not directly helped me with my problem. And although I was able to capture with any program (no preference whether AP pros, or Studio9 Scenalyzer) to connect to the Firewire capture device (no preference whether Cam or D / A converter) for longer maintained as a few seconds. With AP, I got always immediately the error "Lost connection to device".
(The (remote) handling of the action, however, work)
So much for the error description ..

Are the cause of the problem, the overwritten files from SP2 and Avc.sys MSDV.SYS.
Since I can not uninstall SP2, I extracted these files from the Driver.cab in the Windows system32 directory and existing under windows \ system32 \ drivers overwritten.
Since then, including rebooting) (seems to connect to work now.

If you think that might help one or the other synonymous, you can do that yes to your 1st Add Point.

Greetings
Ronny

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Antwort von Markus:

Hello Ronny,

Thank you for your description. The above text I will shortly add a link to your posting. :-)

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Antwort von rushguise:

@ Ronny

Sure that the system can then run more stable with a Mixversion of Sp1 and Sp2?

Why changes were made in the Sp 2? Had Microsoft's views as expressed to?

mfg

Ronny

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Antwort von Markus:

"rushguise" wrote: Had Microsoft's views as expressed to?
-> But I think it's a mess of Microsoft ...

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Antwort von gerti:

"Derron" wrote:
Are the cause of the problem, the overwritten files from SP2 and Avc.sys MSDV.SYS.
Since I can not uninstall SP2, I extracted these files from the Driver.cab in the Windows System32 folder and overwrite the existing under windowssystem32drivers.
Since then, including rebooting) (seems to connect to work now.


Hi,

Unfortunately, my windows always overwrites the files reinkopierten
immediately with the current, completely automatic. That is, I merely copy and hey presto
sinds 1s later, the new ...?

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Antwort von prem:

Hello.
Have also a problem with my firewire port s.PC (4-pin). Probably seems to be a loose connection, because sometimes my hard drive is recognized, sometimes not.
The top was something of qualitative differences (Passform. ..) in the cables. Can someone perhaps give me some names / links / tips that could help me (currently have one of Conrad)

Thank you in advance, Sabrina

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Antwort von Markus:

Hi All,

s.den following contribution I've attached the SP1 drivers. Würde mich mal interested to know whether the above approach works ...

-> Capture Problems with Panasonic NV-GS17

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Antwort von wolf41:

I tried to install the patch of Microsoft. Then came the error message. SETUP CAN NOT FIX:::: BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE IS DIFFERENT FROM THE FIX LANGUAGE.
I unsuccessfully tried it with German and English.
Thanks for the help
Wolfgang

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Antwort von DjDino (Toth Dominik):

"wolf41" wrote: I tried to install the patch of Microsoft. Then came the error message. SETUP CAN NOT FIX:::: BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE IS DIFFERENT FROM THE FIX LANGUAGE.
I unsuccessfully tried it with German and English.
Thanks for the help
Wolfgang

This solution here: http://forum.slashcam.de/viewtopic.php?p=153444 # 153444 (so can install all the patches on German-American synonymous windows or vice versa)

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Antwort von jaAlex:

After a long fruitless Patcherei, Up-/Downgraderei and complete Neuaufspielen the system, I have still not succeeded in spite of existing control equipment to play something from the camcorder to the PC.

Oddly, works the other way: AVI zuübertragen on the camera goes on ...

Schonmal Has anyone heard of it?

Grüßle of

/ Alex /

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Antwort von jaAlex:

Started Okay, if someone is interested: I have the calculator with Knoppix, and then presents the same game.

So the Firewire port seems to be scrap. Funny that he will unhesitatingly each recognized by the system, but a component seems to be on it, which is not queried, and what precisely is gone.

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Antwort von jaAlex:

Have the calculator jetztn posted and he came back with a new board - and it still does not. Then yes, it CAN be just s.der Camera. But with my desktop PC runs without hesitation ...
Help!

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Antwort von Dj Dino:

New Firewire SP2 SP1 patch:

Patch.zip

Originally
Of me

Where else does not help ... ;-)


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Antwort von Brother Tak:

Hi,

I had the following problems:

Camera (JVC GR-D230) was listed under cameras and once again it is not. Firewire port seemed unstable. When camera is detected, they provided a schwrzes Picture or the software for capturing from smearing.

I had a conflict with the TV card that is determined since the outside is, it detects a camera. Although not a great solution but what is supposed to be, it seems to go. Plugging the card is useless, so I'm assuming that the drivers beharken the TV card is with the drivers of the camera?
Perhaps one of the problems may times with graphics cards have. write here if this is Grfikkarten with TV Output or "All in all Wonder cards of ATI? Maybe're the WDM drivers of third-party guilt?

Nero gets to me is still no picture, but runs MainActor of http://www.mainconcept.com/site/index.php?id=1023. There is as synonymous with the Trial version of MainConcept logo in the Picture. But to try that be enough for now.

MfG BT

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Antwort von AndyZZ:

Solution for Firewire problems on nForce2 boards:

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Antwort von JimmyJames:

Love slashcammer,

have you next to me really helped. With my Panasonic NV-DS38 $ sW XP SP2, I had the problem that is discussed here: (After years of age!), I was suddenly able to capture any more. I also tried three days later, all tips, usSP2 uninstalled - has brought nothing. Then the Panasonic codec reinstalled, nothing. A patch contain old "old" Firewire drivers, as well as the "old" msdv.sys contain old ... all brought nix. 885,222 and 904,412 Microsoft hotfixes installed - nothing. The other tips of you, and I've tried google.
I still get the error in Movie Maker "Class not registered" and PP signals "Reset recorder. Somehow, however, seem to have caused all my steps that I am with DVIO (small freeware prog) in AVI1 mode can actually tear my cam video, and then cut accordingly. I'm glad!
So: Who has Firewire problems calmly try it the little prog, vllt in conjunction with the Panasonic codec.

With thanks and best wishes for your forum
-c.

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Antwort von Tintus:

Hello,
1 I will describe this experience and make 1 Question:

1. Just like the rest of the community I have experienced that at some point worked for the sp2 firewire port no longer and I could not capture, mini-DV is not recognized.
All tips did not help, XP patches etc. not synonymous.

I found out after more than 1000 trials a little trick: it is about the timing. Firewire cable ready s.Notebook port. Camera to on, quickly and almost simultaneously, both the mini-DV in the Play mode and try and share this with his other hand stuck to the Firewire cable into the notebook.! With the camera must be 1 tick ahead. It should not take a long time s.Anschalten the DV camera. You see at once begins to hum when they are switched on and buzzing again, when put in the play mode. You still have to hum a time after you've plugged the cable into the notebook. Perhaps one does it better with 4 hands simultaneously. Somehow this seems to prevent the camera is turned off or the port.
Worked with me every 10th or 20 attempt.

2. However, I have the more than 1000 trials, as I often have to cut, in a fit of anger probably geschrottet the Firewire port on the notebook and bent, repair unaffordably expensive ...
Question: Can I use a Firewire card in the laptop, if so, what s.besten - and the notebook must be reprogrammed in any way (BIOS?), As pretty much an internal firewire port is available?? Can I easily use a FireWire card and then connect a firewire cable?

Thanks for your answers!!
Greeting Betti

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Antwort von Markus:

"Tintus" wrote: Can I easily use a FireWire card and then connect a firewire cable?
I assume that this is possible, for a desktop PC can be synonymous to retrofit a firewire card, even if board is already a similar connection exists.

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Antwort von Eva Maier:

The Anschuss can not hurt to disable onboard in the BIOS, if he did not funtioniert anyway.

/ (E

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Antwort von neuweiler:

Thank you for the super product! Although I had already feared it was the SP2 but there was only s.mitgeliferten Firewire cable. Although it professionally (looks transparent with a visible shield), it is much thinner (4mm) as my other "real" Firewire cable (6mm).
Would never have believed that it could be really on it!

So, before you what rumschraubt, try really only a good cable - synonymous _mit_ SP2.

Michael

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Antwort von Blaukehlchen:

Now it had overtaken me, so synonymous, the above-described problem. After I had studied only once the forums, I tested the Camera and the IEEE cable. They were ok. In Device Manager, I discovered the yellow exclamation mark. The camera he had not correctly detected, showed 61,883 device. First I tried it with "Found New Hardware" - nothing, "update drivers" - nothing. Then I uninstalled the drivers, turned the camera out and in again. This time, he recognized a AVC device, but remained the yellow exclamation mark. I repeated the procedure. And lo and behold, suddenly, he showed me the Sony Camera s.and it worked. I took advantage of the situation and outplayed most of my cassettes. When I occasionally once accounted for the camera, they took my notebook is almost always right away. Now I can only hope that it stays that way, and that I am with my post maybe someone can still help.

Petra

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Antwort von WoWu:

Perhaps we should add that there IEEE1394 in 70! specifications are different and if something does not work you should stubbornly times perhaps initially examine its protocol implementation or the FW version.

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Antwort von Markus:

How many details are left like this, if you IEEE1394a OHCI and chooses as default?

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Antwort von cascada:

ADVC-55: does not provide images of S-VHS via firewire s.Scenalyzer although I have three pc's tested. (Direct work)
Canopus says I need to update the BIOS, which is associated with the usual risks?? Supposedly, the BIOS does not recognize the Canopushardware! I do not believe it.

The Firewire port has to be ok, because I'm wired of Mini DV gone directly into the PC. Cable (S-VHS/Firewire) is thus synonymous in order.

"Markus" wrote: Last updated: 03.10.2007

Hi All,

out and back problems with devices (camcorder, recorder, connect, A / D converter, ext. harddisks, ext. on the burner), which Firewire (= IEEE1394 = iLink = DV ) s.den Calculator angeschlossen sind. Diese Probleme rühren jedoch oft of Ursachen, die mehr oder weniger schnell behoben werden können.

In den meisten Fällen sind nach meinem derzeitigen Eindruck drei der u.g. Ursachen besonders häufig s.Nichtfunktionieren der Firewireverbindung Schuld: Das Service Pack 2 of Windows XP, ein minderwertiges Firewirekabel sowie ein Defekt des DV -Anschlusses s.Camcorders.

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on per Firewire (= IEEE1394 = iLink = DV ) s.den Calculator angeschlossen sind. Diese Probleme rühren jedoch oft of Ursachen, die mehr oder weniger schnell behoben werden können.

In den meisten Fällen sind nach meinem derzeitigen Eindruck drei der u.g. Ursachen besonders häufig s.Nichtfunktionieren der Firewireverbindung Schuld: Das Service Pack 2 of Windows XP, ein minderwertiges Firewirekabel sowie ein Defekt des DV -Anschlusses s.Camcorders.

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g of folic noted errors occur:

" Directly connected device is not recognized
" Capture not possible
" Dropped frames when capturing
" Picture-and Tonfehler at capturing

G mö tion causes:

1. Windows XP with SP2
2. Firewire Cables
3. Virus scanner (or other program) running in the background
4. The hard drive is highly fragmented
5. Not enough free space on the hard drive
6. Unsuitable Capture Software
7. Conflict of Firewire card with other PC components
8. DirectX version is not currently
9. Firewire cable defective
10. DV port s.Camcorders broken
11. OHCI FireWire card is not capable of
12. Misc.

How then are vorzu g is:

To isolate the fault quickly and systematically, should begin the following steps: connecting a DV camcorder s.eigenen another PC, connect the camcorder's s.einem another PC and finally the whole even with a new (better and safe working) Firewire cable.

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1st Operating System Windows XP with SP2

In many cases, an error (or feature?) Service Pack 2 (SP2) of Windows XP debt s.Nichtfunktionieren the Firewire connection. In the past, has shown that it alone is apparently not SP2, but that is something like a cross-sensitivity between SP2 and a hard-or software component must occur. Unfortunately, not yet known which factors play a role here.

Often proper operation under Windows XP is available as soon as SP2 was uninstalled. Although it has been synonymous published a patch of Microsoft, but this only helps in very, very, very few cases, to fix the problem with. The described problems may only come on suddenly, after weeks and months of flawless working!

In the event that it is not possible to uninstall SP2, for example, because it is an integral part of the installation CD that has been described as a workaround for some time that the posting of Ronny and the contribution

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