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Frage von Don-CB:


I'm on the search for a new camera. I am not a professional, make a holiday video. For several years, I'm running around with a HV10, which provides very useful recordings and with an accessory wide angle is universally synonymous. However, I have the HV10 synonymous already shamefully left in the lurch - s.Ende of vacation I had taken film, 5, blank cassettes and a broken drum. Fortunately, still under guarantee.

So, long preface: I'm wondering if I even should buy a camcorder or a camera can shoot better, the synonymous. The trend is not exactly in the right direction? There any advantages of camcorders (whohlgemerkt in the hobby sector)? So what should I use?

Thanks, Regards,
Don

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Antwort von Bildstabilisator:

Hi Don CB,

of course, the question needs to be, what have I been and what I want to do with it.

Just when you only as a hobby filming, brings a camcorder has many advantages over a DSRL for example, or a camera

+ Handling (strong Verwacksgefahr at DRSL's)
+ The machine in the recording are more sophisticated in the camcorders
+ File formats are common
+ Processing the clips after the shoot is usually easier.

Still Image and video grows, however, more and more. There are delivering so-called bridge cameras, which have good to very good video quality. Even small compact clippers are ingenious. But handling and sound are usually not high quality.

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Antwort von rush:

Well,

The question can not be answered precisely times like this ... It is always a question of the claim.

If you are photographing a lot on holiday and only now and again a "moving picture" would like to have a VDSLR would certainly worth considering.
are disadvantages in handling it, however, still some ... The Auto Focus is about only with the now seemingly useful camera generations.

Synonymous and the zoom s.VDSLR 's so far achieved very ugly since you must zoom in directly s.Lens and there is no zoom button longer for soft rides.

A defect, you can certainly synonymous s.einem tapeless camcorder and get times for 5 years, she has beaten your Canon quite good ... but of course it is annoying when the material is missing.
When the memory card is faulty but sometimes that can synonymous s.einem tapeless camcorder to pass through the material without it says.

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Antwort von Videobodo:

Image Stabilization has with his statements right. Geradebei see large use of searching for a camcorder has the advantage. The disadvantages of the clippers are synonymous to get while in the grip, but it costs money mostly accurate. Another field, of course, the scenic working filmmakers. The "simple, holiday filmmakers put most emphasis on ease of handling, automatic and sharp, of front to rear.
Bodo

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Antwort von Replay:

I'm probably the one that probably in 2030 as the last man with a camcorder running through the area ^ ^ Why is such a well, was even mentioned it. My reasons for the camcorder in brief:

- Handling
- Auto focus
- Sound quality
- Zoom
- File Format
- Size / weight / mobility (in spite of an additional camera)
- If necessary get out Camera, losfilmen (in DSLR video impossible)

It has been a reason why Still image and video cameras have a completely different look. It is simply a question of handling.

My opinion: The filmmakers Knips boom stirred in my opinion, therefore, because it is in fashion is just shallow depth of field to shoot with one. Which is currently being pulled by hook and break (rather for breaking oO) and the video portals with Focus, but not flooded with good composition. I suspect (and hope) therefore that this phenomenon disappears synonymous. It was in the past more such fads during the shoot, they're all gone from the scene.

Moving image (video) is perceived differently than a still image (still image). Still Image When you have time to consider this in its details, not the moving image. Therefore, we can work with the Still Image quite low depth of field, when I leave the Moving Image (of a few exceptions) remain.

I would in your case, especially as an opportunity to filmmakers, clearly advise the camcorder. That must be a high flyer, or a Panasonic SD66 SonyCX115 is completely OK. Both are available for about 350 euros.

Greetings

Replay

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Antwort von Jitter:

@ Don-CB
The reasons for and against camcorder / digital camera, which were presented here, all right. Before you decide definitively, absolutely check out the Panasonic FZ 100, a so-called Bridge Camera, more precisely on. This is the best ever cross between a camera and a camcorder. Is there sFor significantly less than 500 ¬ and like me even though I myself am convinced camcorder movies, better than any camcorder in this price range.

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Antwort von Replay:

However, remains the question whether or not we would prefer a high-quality compact (I have a Nikon P5000, 1 / 1, 7 "CCD with 10 MP, very compact, can be set fully manual) and a small camcorder brings with him, as this meatball with his 1 / 2, 33 "Sensor with huge 14.1 MP ...

Then rather an entry level DSLR that can shoot synonymous deliver technically much better pictures. And are slightly larger.

Me in any case closed to the point of the bridge cameras. The meatballs are of my little P5000 of something in the corner. And why the housing of a large bridge will contain a tiny sensor, I at the sight of the little P5000 also a mystery.

Greetings

Replay

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Replay" wrote: ... I closes any case, the meaning of the bridge cameras. The meatballs are of my little P5000 of something in the corner. And why the housing of a large bridge will contain a tiny sensor, I at the sight of the little P5000 also a mystery ...
Everyone has different needs and so consider synonymous, each a different type of camera would be useful. The joke at the Bridge cameras - the term refers to the way to bridge the gap between compact and SLR camera, not between Still image and video camera - is yes, among other things, the great zoom range for example, a P5000 in both the Wide Angleals much more in the message very far in the shade. This giant zoom not only explains the larger enclosure, but the slightly smaller sensor synonymous with this type of camera in Comparison to compact with small zoom range.
That the picture quality of a bridge not with can match that of a more expensive, larger and heavier DSLR, it is clear only should there be synonymous times the church in the village: Sooo are bad the results are not, especially since the photos are hardly square feet end up as posters. Especially the FZ100 seems in fact to meet the wishes of many, synonymous and a friend of me has risen part immediately after publication. Despite several decades of photo experience (amateur and professional) and some suitcases full of SLR and medium format systems in the cabinet is the Nikon fan of the Lumix very pleased and excited every day more s.deren opportunities.
But if she is the perfect solution for the thread starter synonymous remains an open question. If video is important, I would nevertheless continue to recommend a camcorder. Replay has been called the usual suspects already.

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Antwort von gunman:

Hi,

I'm just Lumix GH 2 and 99% of the arguments against a "camera" for the barrel, at least in this price range.
My opinion.
Gunman

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Antwort von Don-CB:

Thank you for your detailed answers!

I just see more accurate profile of the "bridge cameras" - the name I have therefore learned today. Nevertheless, it is probably just my problem.

However, as I read it with you here the disadvantage of these cameras is the lack of auto focus as I know her from the camcorder and that there is no sufficient image stabilization. Both are for me, "ko" criteria.

I seek not to "bend and break" a new camera, the worse it can as my HV10. The New, a better picture (sharpness, color, contrast), and faster turn-in handling to be problematic (no mechanical parts, I would consider to be problematic here). This means that image stabilization and auto focus should work well - in my opinion should always be all set to auto. A switch to switch to fireworks and that's supposed to have been :-). I am more concerned as well to think through the storyboard and the virtual scenes, the camera should then please do the rest. Sound quality is almost no interest for me, this is usually substituted completely in Schitt. However, I think it is very important to have an optical viewfinder. Only movies on the back of a mouse can, in my opinion any moderately wobble-free images. Not to forget a Wide Angleum the 28mm Kb should be so.

I come now to the size of the camera: small, they should be, so I take her everywhere with. However, too small and they all blurred shots. And a tripod I only rarely. On the size I see in the current generation of camcorders problems: they are all long - very long ... The upright form is sadly out of fashion.

Well, now I have it well eswas outlined in more detail how my profile looks like. Perhaps a final note, I do not photos - I am only responsible for shooting :-)

The FZ100 I will look at all cases. The above entry-level camcorder, have unfortunately not all the viewfinder and / or no wide-angle (min. 28 mm) if I am right.

Thanks again, Best regards,
Don

PS I play easily in a class with k euros if need be

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Antwort von Replay:

"Bernard E." wrote: "Replay" wrote: ... I closes any case, the meaning of the bridge cameras. The meatballs are of my little P5000 of something in the corner. And why the housing of a large bridge will contain a tiny sensor, I at the sight of the little P5000 also a mystery ...
Everyone has different needs and so consider synonymous, each a different type of camera would be useful. The joke at the Bridge cameras - the term refers to the way to bridge the gap between compact and SLR camera, not between Still image and video camera - is yes, among other things, the great zoom range for example, a P5000 in both the Wide Angleals much more in the message very far in the shade. This giant zoom not only explains the larger enclosure, but the slightly smaller sensor synonymous with this type of camera in Comparison to compact with small zoom range.
That the picture quality of a bridge not with can match that of a more expensive, larger and heavier DSLR, it is clear only should there be synonymous times the church in the village: Sooo are bad the results are not, especially since the photos are hardly square feet end up as posters. Especially the FZ100 seems in fact to meet the wishes of many, synonymous and a friend of me has risen part immediately after publication. Despite several decades of photo experience (amateur and professional) and some suitcases full of SLR and medium format systems in the cabinet is the Nikon fan of the Lumix very pleased and excited every day more s.deren opportunities.
But if she is the perfect solution for the thread starter synonymous remains an open question. If video is important, I would nevertheless continue to recommend a camcorder. Replay has been called the usual suspects already.


Where would scare me, among other things straight from the monster zoom Purchase ... Especially with the video gives a nice Zappeltour. The P5000 is already relatively old, anyway (or because of it) pretty damn good and damn noise-free for 'ne Compact, but if someone is standing on Monster zooms, it is synonymous with such a compact zoom trunks. The zoom is only so from a technical point of no reason to require such a large case. Other than that I have at least 10 MP on a 1 / 1, 7 "14.1 MP CCD, rather than to 1 / 2, 33" ...

@ Gunman
Well, the handling is with me at least a very strong argument. Ergonomics at the tools available to me very high up, in case of an image recording device (no preference whether Still image or video) in excess of the image quality. If the thing is stupid in the hand or simply is uncomfortable or forces them into a stupid position, I know I like the device is little or not at all used. Since then the technically perfect Picture benefit not synonymous.

@ General
This topic has powerful explosive, no question. Everyone has their preferences and I see just like that I prefer the shooting with a camcorder, as I've sometimes the "pleasure" had to shoot with a DSLR. Nothing for me, despite massive accessories (Rig, etc.) for the DSLR. Accordingly are my tips. Ultimately, everyone must decide for itself, so there are plenty of arguments to read.

Greetings

Replay

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Antwort von gunman:

Then you buy the SonyHDR XR-550 V or 520 V, then you have

A super-low light
-A very good automatic
-A top Image Stabilization
A great-wide-angle lens
A very high-resolution display

and good is ...

Incidentally, a look at the camcorder Comparison here at Slashcam can be very helpful.
Gunman

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Antwort von Don-CB:

Thanks for the tip: the camcorder comparison of me to visit regularly for years and has led uszum purchase the HV10.

I Sonyhab I already looked in the original. Quite so convinced I was not, so I've left for them.

My question was actually really in the direction that she came here for language: Comparison of Camera vs.. Camcorder. And then I see currently a clear tendency for the camcorder. Although the fusion of both segments is expected.

Regards,
Don

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Antwort von Replay:

Ok, 1000 euros is a call because I would then also go directly towards the CX550. Includes everything and everything in it that should actually be exactly what you are looking for. After you with the device anyway never taking pictures, it would really not very smart to buy a camera in order to film exclusively.

Greetings

Replay

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