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Frage von poilf:


Hello everybody,

I have a calculator together, the HD Schnittfähig to be:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3GHz
4 GB 800 MHz RAM
Mainboard MSI G965MDH

hard drive from an old calculator should be given a 160 GB Seagate.

Now the CPU is not fit to the mainboard, because it has 1333 MHz bus and the motherboard only makes 1066th
In addition, the ATA disk and the motherboard boots up only of sata (so beautiful ... I've never seen grummel * *)

I can not return, except the CPU.

So I now have the alternative for 50 - a new motherboard to buy the CPU or against a Quad Core Q6600 with 2.4 GHz and to swap a SATA hard disk to buy.

the second possibility would not be money wasted, since disk space is always needed. The real question is:

brings a 2.4 Quad Core Q6600 Clocked in Premiere CS3 more than a 3 (or 3.6 because of the very well over clock it) GHz E8400 Clocked?

Only if the felt would bring something, I would be ready again because now 120, - ¬ more reinzustecken, otherwise I would mainboard on ebay verscherbeln and provide me a reasonable.

Thank you for your tips!

PS I thought that my question has been asked a thousand times already and I actually had a few synonymous Fred found the touch on the topic. But somehow in no way a definitive answer, or benchmark or so. I hope I am going to annoy anyone if "again" so Fred is opened. [/ I]

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Antwort von Markus:

"HD" means in this context only a high-resolution video, but ultimately decide the format and the type of data that power your calculator needs.

Which HD format is it about? HDV? AVCHD? DVCProHD? XDCAM HD? Editcam HD? ...?

"poilf" wrote: hard drive from an old calculator should be given a 160 GB Seagate.
One hard drive is probably good for system (+ Programs), but for video files is too small. Unless you do just short films. ;-)

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Antwort von poilf:

It's about HDV.

160er the plate is synonymous only to the system thought the movie files to other disks.

The system will be synonymous films produced several times, ie between 10 minutes and 3 hours will probably be everything.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"Mark" wrote:
"poilf" wrote: hard drive from an old calculator should be given a 160 GB Seagate.
One hard drive is probably good for system (+ Programs), but for video files is too small. Unless you do just short films. ;-)


In 13GB/Stunde for HDV 160GB range for 12 hours of film.

So big plate for the operating system + software for the small and the films.

For HDV is synonymous's a E6750 or E6850.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Daigoro" wrote: ... So big plate for the operating system + software and the small for the films ...
I do not know what you're s.Software masses, but conversely, it seemed sensible to me: a relatively small disk for OS and software (because the rich more than 160GB), a large for the films - as indeed it poilf synonymous plans.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von poilf:

"Daigoro" wrote: For HDV is synonymous's a E6750 or E6850.

OK, but here is the E8400er been around, ie the money is already spent. for the same money to get a Q6600er. Which of these two is better?
Will the 4 cores as efficiently used by the clearly slower clock is compensated?
Or you notice that both speeds en eh not anymore?

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"Bernd E." wrote: "Daigoro" wrote: ... So big plate for the operating system + software and the small for the films ...
I do not know what you're s.Software masses, but conversely, it seemed sensible to me: a relatively small disk for OS and software (because the rich more than 160GB), a large for the films - as indeed it poilf synonymous plans.

Gruß Bernd E.


Well, I play computer games a lot and because you get almost none more 2-10 gigabytes.

It is synonymous to the lower mass of rather on the speed.

For the 25MBit / s of HDV, the lame box aus'm Computer Museum and you will notice no difference. (and 160GB are synonymous, as has been calculated for home use are sufficient).

The Programs and the OS of the faster disk failed to start because more advantages. (Oh, and since the motherboard is not always of the ATA disk boots isses useless bit OS and the movies on the new, the programs on the old .. and what I know).

In addition, shoots a nobody, when the films on the big synonymous saves disk (partition if necessary) when the small is full - the hells different notes you do not (unless you want to remember what, then you notice what synonymous, because if there is garnix - Placebo Effect). I have quite long with a plate and I worked until the beginning of the year, second ne gegönnt because se saubillig are easy.

And if the cheapest of the quad (or with the least possible financial loss) is possible from the misery rauszukommen, then take him like that.
If a sound processor.
And let the fingers from overclocking.

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Antwort von tommyb:

Eight times in your memory.

At 4GB, you need to get a Windows VISTA, XP comes with so much is not clear (3 GB or 2 GB in dual Chanel would be as popular).

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Antwort von wolfgang:

"Daigoro" wrote:
And if the cheapest of the quad (or with the least possible financial loss) is possible from the misery rauszukommen, then take him like that.
If a sound processor.
And let the fingers from overclocking.


Why omit the fingers? The Q6600 is stable over clock, I can take with my 2.4 Ghz to 3.3 Ghz synonymous drive. Goes perfectly well. You have to stop halfway know what you do.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"wolfgang" wrote: "Daigoro" wrote:
And if the cheapest of the quad (or with the least possible financial loss) is possible from the misery rauszukommen, then take him like that.
If a sound processor.
And let the fingers from overclocking.


Why omit the fingers? The Q6600 is stable over clock, I can take with my 2.4 Ghz to 3.3 Ghz synonymous drive. Goes perfectly well. You have to stop halfway know what you do.


Know what you do - just.

That the Board S-ATA boot needs big thing is everywhere and the only one with luck and a lot schrauberei may be a new 8xxxer C2D can operate (the 965 only works with the new einzelfaellen) can with a little Googling synonymous out.

Both not done -> no desire for so much info -> fingers away rather difficult of tweaks before the whole Chose in flames and the total financial loss will be.
(each processor is equal or equally good over clock it is never guaranteed, so be careful with such statements as' easy ')

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Antwort von darg:

Whether or Dou Quad is simply a question of whether fast rendering "must have" (which brings to an understand I still do not) or a liquid preview with all the filters and Tweaks wants. Since the next Dous much about bars may, when the quads, I would, because to me the preview is important to always take the faster Dou. Can render the thing about synonymous night.
Have an "old" E6850 without major problems brought on 3.6GHz and am sure I can call it up to 3.8 or even 4, if I take the time times, with a quad is without water cooling and air conditioning almost unattainable. First, from the thermal and the other of the Speicherstabilitaet her.
Since you already have the CPU, I would board the shoot into the wind (Ebucht), together with a probability far too slow memory (he is wenisgtens 800?) And at least get me 1066er, 3GB and 4GB for 32bit or 64bit for more. The Olle 160er, I would render as a number plate in the rear next three or run as a system for a fast HDV and fuers SATAII 750GB SATAII material or even a RAID01. Sure, the first of quite expensive but what use you like a system that just now and then in one or two years, bursting at the seams? Then you pay twice ....
Eighth at the premiere graphic, is your support?!

Axel, San Jose

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Antwort von wolfgang:

I think the wrong approach, because a non-synonymous overclocked Q6600 with sufficient HDV preview capabilities has - so about 4 or 5 tracks in native HDV m2t. And if I and the improved rendering properties can have - why then the disadvantage of a 2-core processor for rendering to take?

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Antwort von darg:

I have over here a couple of boxes with quads and tried somehow ran the rather stagnant with 2.4GHz, Vegas 8 and HDVMaterial, but may be that it s.Dellschrott was synonymous to the so somehow everyone swears :-)
Me, the quads are not yet so in the spell, possibly, only if the first-floor with 3.3GHz comes out, of whom always synonymous ......

Axel, SJ

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

I am on the Quad in HDV is not really complain. Cuts like butter with'nem hot wire ;-)

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Antwort von wolfgang:

Q6600, 2.4 Ghz: HDV2 cuts are so smooth and extremely well with Vegas 8b. Obs s.deinem PC is located?

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Antwort von poilf:

So I have to keep the CPU, the board, I can probably s.die wall Tack (this was at my online shop sells Computeruniverse.net exactly once - namely s.mich: p). The support is extremely nice with me there is a gigabyte rausgesucht the safe with the E8400er runs and with my 800MHz Corsair RAM.
800 MHz, I have bought, because usTomshardware & Co. write that it is hardly worth so much more money for 1066er or even 1333er issue. Furthermore, 4 GHz with the apparently E8000ern loose, more would go if the RAM would join. But as others have to say: as long as you do not have the absolute power needs murderer, because under pressure of time or so works, you do not have money like a stupid stuck in the hardware.
Since I prefer to buy good intentions lens (Speaking of, someone has a good recommendation for a Wide Anglean a Canon HV30? I have a fairly cheap of Raynox, but this is the zoom violently ill and makes great dark corners in the Picture) and filter.

So thanks for the tips of all!

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Antwort von Markus:

"poilf" wrote: ... Lens Attachments (Speaking of, someone has a good recommendation for a Wide Anglean a Canon HV30 ...
Look here:


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