Frage von Markus.Straub:
Hi,
With me so slowly now comes the time to myself for a career. Because I like movies, I thought my time as a cameraman, etc. to apply. Since synonymous Kameramaänner here in the forum are, I thought I came to ask how it looks with the payment. Have a friend of synonymous (freelance cameraman) is that it is a bread-free job was. What is it with you? Would you recommend me in the industry to operate? If so what channels? Or should I in the movie industry to try my luck?
I'm grateful for every answer
Antwort von schingge:
Have a friend of synonymous (freelance cameraman) is that it is a bread-free job was. What is it with you? I think of such a blanket statement about nothing. First of all we must define what kind of cameraman you want. There are cameramen who out there in the wild, news reports or rotate, either with foreign or with its own technology. There are studio cameramen in the multi-camera operation live broadcasts (shows, magazines) or outdoors (eg, sports) with the truck in a multi-camera mode. There are studio cameramen, so things like GZSZ, Lindenstrasse court or multi-camera shows in the operating record. And then there is of course synonymous cameramen, the scenic things such as TV games or movies turn.
The roads there are very different: training for media designers, camera trainee with a cameraman, film studies university s.einer about assistance sometime even s.die Camera, Camera, or even just buy and go.
And earnings from zero to more than EUR 10,000 in the month may generally because everything that can be more accurate to say. This is of very many factors. Therefore, yes flat statements such as extreme synonymous nonsensical.
So: What would you do?
Matthias
Antwort von Pianist:
The above post is of me. I do not know why I was not logged.
Matthias
Antwort von Markus.Straub:
I also have to study to become a cameraman. And if I am lucky, I've made. And if I had very good luck, I make decent synonymous. Do I really understand?
Here are but synonymous camera men in the forum ... the times on their job information? I think what sender, the payment and the opportunities there to be taken. Of course I can understand if it had no information about your content to want.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
I also have to study to become a cameraman. You seem you do not have so little about your dream job to have information? Simply type in Google the terms "training" and "cameraman" one and you'll find at the first hits a lot of information. And no, you do not study. Synonymous pianist had just been written.
Movie industry Felicitous pun or Freudian prescription? So much in any event, the German film scene ;-)
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von r.p. television:
So a study would be only one path to the goal. If synonymous quite cumbersome.
An initial volunteers at a free cameraman would be advisable in any case. Then you can see whether you synonymous with the stress of daily production are grown and see what challenges alongside the creative work you are responsible.
An internship at a broadcast-only institution is about to get vitamin B synonymous and not so wise. After working mostly synonymous people who also have relations and not a job performance records have. I would in any case not keen to learn of someone who in the bosom of a broadcaster with the challenges of the Freelancers not grown synonymous and they probably never had to exist.
I am not at all synonymous thrilled that one of them now through cameraman as professionals studying to acquire the means. Germany is already so corrupt academized and graduate. We need in the industry is not more people who is a bachelor's or master deed s.der wall, but basically nothing on it and just have this feeling of helplessness chosen profession.
Professionals such as photographers and cameramen, painters or artists of any kind is a vocation and should remain free diplom.
And because of salary:
As my previous writing. There are yearly since you get nearly the amount flights and must be, but when spending reflect. Because it is synonymous again a bad year.
And once delivered a bad performance and it can be delivered. There is often no second chance. There are about 98% only account Schreiber - and which are well known, no job protection.
Anyone who likes a lot of money but earned no responsibility for selbstfabrizierten dung must bear wants to Siemens, or equal to the Bundestag. Cameraman is the wrong choice.
So if you are writing du film like this should be very serious. Often the fun s.dem what you're doing your synonymous only be paid. Especially at the beginning of your career.
Antwort von minos frances:
Hello,
I am a graduate with early anthropology and educational sciences. My themes are Intercultural Education / Media Education, Visual Anthropology and migration discourses in the context of globalization. I have a very strong interest in the documentary field and would like to target with my training as a possible assistant camera verfolgen.Nun my problem, I'm very undecided about what makes sense according to my study is. I already have some courses with Premier Pro, Adobe Audition, etc. synonymous occupied and an internship in the field of new media as an effective integration of migrants passed in IMES in Hanover. Another Bachelor or 6-9 semesters of study, I would not start, because I would possibly even a shortened training program for media designer Sound / Picture lucrative, because I will still be paid ... in times of internship generation; 0)) or maybe rather as a freelancer looking for what? I searched for my studies then 6 years studying and do not want to wait another three years .... and for an internship in the camera range, many broadcasters have completed vocational training puhhhh * * nochmal a shortened training as a photographer? istdas sense then to get the internship.
Furthermore, I have in the image-building design skills in Photoshop, Indesign and a basic knowledge in the Web. I already have hab'mir synonymous to go to England, a friend told me that there are opportunities in this area very well be synonymous, since the general is a very professional job of the German mentality is different, because they are not these and those training synonymous additionally make muss.Oder but synonymous famous Manchester School of Sir David Attenborough, but insanely expensive ......* sigh * do not know what I should do?
Thank you for your attention
lg minos
Antwort von Nachtelfe:
I think that first of all a really strong and imaginative talent for the arts at all must be present, as may be synonymous, the best training is not much to bring, if not of building from there.
Moreover, it is ever an error in principle, after the beginning of money to ask.
First, to what kind always synonymous capabilities and the absolute desire to appeal through. And only then can pay synonymous s.entsprechende mind.
Cameraman, this is not Beamtenjob with pay scale after training course.
OK can help very much, but without a strong visual and functional assessment base is not much running
Antwort von Eva Maier:
frances @ minos
If you've followed the thread then you know where it ends, - here in Slashcam forum days and night.
Gibts little bread and sausage garnicht.
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Antwort von Pianist:
My themes are Intercultural Education / Media Education, Visual Anthropology and migration discourses in the context of globalization. Time, aside from that I have such empty (but of course, very scientific sounding) speech bubble does not like sentences like: Why do you want for a completed university degree, three steps back to the level of a moving camera wizard? Of course, camera assistants important people, no question about it. The times may be synonymous like a little think.
But what I want, is something completely different: You want your own film projects realize content. You should therefore in future not as a camera assistant with (then entirely) unnecessary degree, but you want to be happy as a specialist journalist movies to realize your topics. Since the market is obviously small, s.sich of the transmitters would only Arte interesting for you. You search it out (for yourself and the audience) interesting topic and try it in an editorial reinzukommen where you first run it a little, and then to realize their own contributions. And usually you have a somewhat clearer language to be free of scientific balloons, which may be in the media industry nobody.
It would be a waste of time, yet in a very different direction umzuschwenken that on your CV would be synonymous not good. You can register through your studies for an expert on certain subjects and want to develop in these areas to work in journalism. You can therefore tell anyone that you camera assistant will want to cut yourself with familiar programs and Photoshop. You're not 16 years old and apply for an apprenticeship as a media designer. Your path might incidentally synonymous over a field in your active peak association or equivalent federal authority (project-related work or public relations), or synonymous with a scientific journal. Good luck!
Matthias
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Your path might incidentally synonymous over a field in your active peak association or equivalent federal authority (project-related work or public relations), or synonymous with a scientific journal. Good luck!
So I see the synonymous.
(the pianist knows exactly where it's at and find a great promt synonymous terms.)
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Antwort von minos:
hallo erstmal and apologize that I seem to people attacked because of my spelling and it was synonymous nor negative criticism will apologize that I represent as solch'eine expressive .... I will first try ... my comments are more or less a help than a pointless remark and of not properly read. only once have I in any way with my text after monetary compensation or demand, and that the kamerajob no beamtenjob is to have a generally human visual know. people, but please check the connection times, only to read, think and then write. and secondly, that the spelling of my upsets should not be equally as expressing "Your way might incidentally synonymous over a field in your active peak association or equivalent federal authority" what do you mean? where and what should I advertise because "Search Film Ethnologists interested?" Fachzeitschrift for reportage and documentary area? and in which federal authority? You have the Ihalt already understood my concern, but I'm not where I am practical and technical experience can .... and s.die vorverfasserin of pianist "is little bread and sausage garnicht" Fortunately, I am a vegetarian and has me in the no sense to worry about, so I do not compete with you ... I wish you all what, and trying other people when they ask you for help, ladies free, aussagekrätftig and professional advice, otherwise I see the forum as no possibility of me Expert advice ...
with best regards
minos
Antwort von Axel:
... I am a graduate with early anthropology and educational sciences. My themes are Intercultural Education / Media Education, Visual Anthropology and migration discourses in the context of globalization. I have a very strong interest in the documentary area ... What others here about your manner of expression have noticed a gift. I guess you have not studied at random, but because you the backgrounds of these subjects interesting occurred. Plane s.besten but with a documentary style, for instance, on problems of integration of foreign young people with a title like "powder keg" or "apartheid in Germany (where it comes to vivid, nachfühlbare presentation and not about abstract terms from the ivory tower would go). It may be that your field, I now completely misinterpreted, but also a gift. It is probably because hie or social explosiveness bergen, otherwise it would be, in fact, well, superfluous. Whether you're looking for the search itself s.die Camera hand or want to put a cameraman clamping, is more of a detail. In an outpost rather have: your studies, with the more practical work of the camera (the annoying PC companion for Equality's Legal sparing me) nothing to do.
Antwort von PowerMac:
minos, I am studying pedagogy synonymous. Bin synonymous soon. Only I can not express this Laber of you and jabber less. It is a question of mentality and style of living. If you want a fixed position with salary and regular security / rigidities? Or you can times synonymous months unemployed, can choose your friends for months to give up, new win your heart and somewhere undertake a project for which you might not earn? Would you like a career? Do you have idealistic notion in you that you absolutely want to express with their own shooting? It seems to me that perhaps you yourself should reflect. What do you want to make, what can? How do you want to live as a human being? And shows a few top professional seminars in pedagogy.
Antwort von Stegmaier:
Pedagogy, a bread-free job?
Antwort von r.p. television:
@ minus:
It feels even attacked one of you. But perhaps it triggers one or another evil, that someone back from an academic Parelleluniversum (just because you seem to be derived) to get into camp ahead-try the same times but with all his study Gewäsch on a higher pedestal to put .
Maybe I appreciate you wrong On - but it sounds just your application. First of all senseless word phrases to the professional educator (or what is synonymous) in the room and throw then pretend that you are too bad for a practical training (puuuuh - Work?) Wert.
Your study sounds just as if you tell the general public over the past ten years, lying on the bag, and then wisely daherzureden - at our expense.
And for social engagement (we can order the motif for your current training speculate) it is not a NASA scientist.
And then the flower carts s.den someone drive you to the tips were still synonymous. So because of: "excuse my expression - I'm just so clever ....."
The commentary with peak association and federal authority, I think was not so wrong. Because who wants to free economy in the world to spend money for someone with such a purpose, or non-qualified education as you?
Your training sounds as if you were in the guise of emancipation Ersatzweg only one has found time to marry to be bridged.
Nothing for ungut .....
Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
I have now inquired about the job as an engineer Picture. One has to study yes ... I believe that what would be for me.
Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
That makes it so pretty much:
The structure of the technical equipment to live everything. Where can I find schools that offer this course? We found gegoogelt but found nothing.
Antwort von r.p. television:
Oh yes:
If the impression should be, what I have against university graduates;
I have absolutely nothing against them, but only against those who take the clichés of Klugscheisserei Scheubeck and work with while "Here I am, give me money, I'm smart!" Eject unite.
Antwort von PowerMac:
@ minus:
It feels even attacked one of you. But perhaps it triggers one or another evil, that someone back from an academic Parelleluniversum (just because you seem to be derived) to get into camp ahead-try the same times but with all his study Gewäsch on a higher pedestal to put .
Maybe I appreciate you wrong On - but it sounds just your application. First of all senseless word phrases to the professional educator (or what is synonymous) in the room and throw then pretend that you are too bad for a practical training (puuuuh - Work?) Wert.
Your study sounds just as if you tell the general public over the past ten years, lying on the bag, and then wisely daherzureden - at our expense.
And for social engagement (we can order the motif for your current training speculate) it is not a NASA scientist.
And then the flower carts s.den someone drive you to the tips were still synonymous. So because of: "excuse my expression - I'm just so clever ....."
The commentary with peak association and federal authority, I think was not so wrong. Because who wants to free economy in the world to spend money for someone with such a purpose, or non-qualified education as you?
Your training sounds as if you were in the guise of emancipation Ersatzweg only one has found time to marry to be bridged.
Nothing for ungut ..... For so primitive, I do not assessed. You mixed up here with your dumb cliches common sense. The maximum range for the beer s.Stammtisch, but not here. Your ideas of education and welfare not even in harmony with the Basic Law. An education (study) does not have useful or pragmatic. Schöngeisterei and hermeneutics have their advantages synonymous. Intellectual thinking characterizes good movies. Unequal unequally teacher education teachers. I'm synonymous educator, intellectually, have ideas and notions, as I would like to change the world, the world can categorize and understand, have background knowledge. The odds are not with the harsh reality achso and the system of capitalism. More likely, I believe that the combination of practice and know-how on the one Page with intellect and education in the broadest sense, on the other, good movies and creates success. Artistic talent as a fundamental premise of times ignored.
Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
Offices ..., hm, hm. could you maybe your discus ion vortführen elsewhere?
Would net, if we continue the thread may lead. So:
Has anyone of you to study as a building engineer behind? And what If I turn there are universities where the engineering degree course offered as an image?
Antwort von Pianist:
And what If I turn there are universities where the engineering degree course offered as an image? Now quite seriously: Do you want in the media industry are working and can do it not even by their own research to find out where courses are appropriate? And why should the other reading for the work you do? That can not really true.
If this continues, I will s.berufsberatenden no longer participate in discussions.
But just because I have a good mood (two tenders won), I still following you Tip: You should test times s.einer leadership in your local ARD Institute (or another transmitter) and then participate in the relevant people ask how them to their profession have come. This does a tour, where you do not by empty studios and control rooms will be kept, but where the right to work. Or (this is perhaps even better) go look at an external transfer to the truck and knock, if the red lamp is not lit. Experience has made the people happy times for information, especially if they have time for them. The image is often synonymous Ingenieurgesellschaft the boss of the whole truck.
Matthias
Antwort von Pianist:
what do you mean? where and what should I advertise because "Search Film Ethnologists interested?" Fachzeitschrift for reportage and documentary area? and in which federal authority? More than this reference, I can not give you. If you notice this is not conclusive action to implement it, you're in the media industry wrong. So harsh that may sound synonymous. Go again in you and think about exactly where your strengths lie and context in which areas you are particularly well familiar. And then it is surely possible that you have come to where you sit right contact person. I had at that time synonymous superior and of'm all alone come. Incidentally, since I was only 15 years old.
Matthias
Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
We have s.der school yes a professional consultant, but it's an absolute zero. I ask after the opportunities to be taken ... etc. And tell me that he is so do not know. The fact that only one of which has ne idea are business professionals. I would not ask you if I do not already have a professional consultant would be asked.
Antwort von PowerMac:
Is it stupidity or laziness, you do not manage to find courses themselves? Both of these means in a professional and academic sense, the "Off" for you. I would not allow yourself or adjust.
Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
According to your mood, one could almost think that you were fired today. Need help? We could open up a separate company that makes commercials, etc. You can be the boss synonymous. I've even ne kamera (NVGs 180). Then we do not have much to invest in new equipment .;-)=)
Antwort von WINner:
If you've followed the thread then you know where it ends, - here in Slashcam forum days and night.
Exactly so.
From hundreds of wannabes are holding only one or two through.
WERS not packed days here may be here and (especially in) the night buffoon play.
You see one or the other so synonymous s.seinem "collegial" tone the discontent and despair over their irrevocable failure.
To the issue of an objective answer to get is here synonymous in the wrong forum.
Is like in Formula One.
If you want as a friend, you must buy a dog.
If you go to coal, then what better ampersand.
Antwort von PowerMac:
(...) You see one or the other so synonymous s.seinem "collegial" tone the discontent and despair over their irrevocable failure. (...) Clear. Anyone who does not always result in the sizes of simpletons and mentally friendly or is in a forum rumtreibt, is a car a failure in the professional world.
Antwort von Stegmaier:
only if you want to have fun over the many * professionals * here
should post here!
Antwort von PowerMac:
Who said that? Your right breast nipple?
Antwort von Stegmaier:
wow - one of anflug geistreichem witz - so next!
Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
Who said that? Your right breast nipple? "You agree not defamatory, obscene, vulgar, libelous, violent or criminal reasons other content on this forum to publish. Doing so may lead to you being immediately and permanently blocking, we reserve, call data, etc. s. enforcing these conditions. You agree that the webmaster, administrator and moderators of this forum have the right to use contributions at its sole discretion to remove, edit, move or close. You agree that as part of the registration data in a database be saved. "
This is in regulating the use of Slashcam it. Why will you not locked now? And will your data now s.die law enforcement authorities is given? ...
Antwort von PowerMac:
You're funny.
Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
And thou the Peter ..:-=}
Antwort von Pianist:
And thou the Peter ..:-=} Markus, times can we please stay on topic and us to worry about your future career? I voted yes to you next top two concrete tips given. S.Dich question: What have you done so far to personal information of people who work in an area that interested you? And I do not question here in the forum. And is not the synonymous request s.Deinen professional advisers. Have you ever appropriate to events and people mentioned in demand? Did you compatriots on the Internet, which universities offer such courses?
Matthias
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Powermac When it is different, which is intellectually and artistically predisposed and would like to change the world, (he writes at least) is missing only that he comes asus Austria.
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Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
So I have a home page found s.der universities Film and Television in Sydney were listed. There were of the director to cable carriers (lol) everything. But I have a found nirgens where dranstand picture engineer. I am now primarily drum, where there are schools that offer engineering degree image. I try at times synonymous SWR television to get an internship in the summer holidays.
Antwort von Eva Maier:
http://www.regie.de/berufsbilder/bildingenieur.php
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Antwort von Eva Maier:
http://suche.t-online.de/fast-cgi/tsc?mandant=toi&device=html&portallanguage=de&userlanguage=de&dia=suche&context=internet-tab&tpc=internet&ptl=std&classification=internet-tab_internet_std&start=0&num=10&ocr=yes&type=all&q = Image Engineering & lang = any & x = 39 & y = 5
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Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
http://www.regie.de/berufsbilder/bildingenieur.php
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Antwort von PowerMac:
How interesting. Where are you doing? If BW, then I could tell you with ideas about 1000, throw what you could do everything. Also hints that you can not find via Google. Internship at SWR? Other channels? Could I help you. Previously, I expect everyone here and a thousand-fold increase in terms of personal initiative and independence! If you're one, the one in the ass will be: go for the next five TV / film shows. Make at least one month internship at the TV. Learn at least five people and camera quatsch with them during the lunch break extensively! Then you decide whether your profession is.
Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
So the SWR television ever retires from ... the only trainees, for their study a Need .... And many more other channels, there is not with us. Perhaps even Regio TV ULM ... lol. the times are so full the loooser. If you watch their work, because I had nothing to learn.
Antwort von Pianist:
Learn at least five people and camera quatsch with them during the lunch break extensively! But not with salaried public law cameramen who talk during the lunch break only through their work, their pauses, their hours and their holidays. Better with free cameramen speak well in business and pleasure s.ihrer work.
In the field of picture and sound engineers was the much better work ethic.
Matthias
Antwort von r.p. television:
To not completely off-topic to write anticipated relating to:
The job as a cameraman was very hard to get, because you just do not standardized pathway could happen. You just had to enforce and through good ideas and score reliability.
There was and is synonymous in Geberbe rotten eggs, the next by relations when it came their talent suggests.
Perhaps it sounds selfish, but I'm actually quite glad that the young man in the industry no general advice can give. Indeed, it would include all citizens norm, where perhaps their business or law school seems boring to an "enrollment" tempt.
I myself was to study a lot to unmotivert.
But I have had it done, despite my lack of internet sources and information and contacts to get.
S.17 I was next to the school free camera assistant on many productions of any kind is often unpaid. But because I often reliable and useful proposals had been established sometime.
Sometime own equipment purchased and orders will be processed. Often for maues Money. But it left an impression.
I somehow think it would be strange if it is now an abbreviation of the university there.
Maybe I'm narrow-minded, but I somehow believe that a cameraman (and then was asked yes) of two important criteria is:
1.The look for the right motive and the setting of the picture cut. Many people lack this view. Because you can study until it is black.
2.Natürlich the technical knowledge and the dexterity. All the things you learn s.der Camera. I had a graduate of the Munich Film School. The knew not how to Auflagemaß recruits. What should I be with someone? My intern, I actually hired primarily for illumination, it has then it's presented. This has only just completed her Fachabi ..... and for me a bit zugeguckt.
When I read that people with higher education, despite the Internet with its myriad search functions are not able, their contacts, this is just a confirmation of my assessment.
The difficult road to cameraman protect us from the people the Normweg want to go. The eingeeignet would be easy .... It is not a profession, to the one of vocational counselors is advised.
And now, off-topic:
@ powermac:
That's why I posted synonymous again, because I read the first entry I got the impression that I would be misunderstood.
1. I do not drink beer and sit s.Stammtisch not synonymous, nor otherwise I share at this level with eternally frustrated from yesterday.
I mix my clichés (the well known conditions are synonymous) with my "common sense".. I hope not but that I am primitive. At least tell me otherwise None.
2. You make an education (I do not go out of pottery) must not be useful? OK, since we probably have different opinions. I believe that someone of knowledge at the expense of the community appropriates synonymous in this sensible way and manner should be able to give back. And that need not necessarily be financial. This is synonymous for me socially.
A training platform at university in Germany costs a lot of times now Money that is still to a large extent the public pays. Then I feel much more comfortable but if my income tax in the pension of a widowed grandmother is created as in the formation of a free spirit Berufsegoisten, which is formed but nothing else.
3. Hermeneutik Schöngeisterei and have your benefits synonymous. Because I give you right. I am a beautiful spirit synonymous. Intellectual thinking characterizes good movies. Is absolutely correct. But here we are again at the problem: What leads you to believe a course of study or automated enforces intellectual thinking? That is probably synonymous then a cliché. I know so many graduates do not have a damage report s.Ihre liability insurance can write without having to completely blamieren. Did not necessarily with intellectual thinking what to do, but it makes some conclusions.
What is intellectual thinking at all?
A study now encourages times no
Antwort von Eva Maier:
You should see the times of the practical view, if you can not learn, then perhaps the others, but is essential to the conclusion that you're picture engineer. Apart from this, one should not prejudge.
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Antwort von Pianist:
So the SWR television ever retires from ... the only trainees, for their study a Need .... This is only the official version. Officially, there are synonymous in the ARD Hauptstadtstudio no student internships. Nevertheless you can on the internet internship students read reports of who were there. Remember: There is always an official version, but the practice is fortunately very different. There is then synonymous Recherche work again in demand - and personal use. The best way to events on the people and then immediately sent it off, if you like something they offer the prospect.
There are actually many great German truck service, whose vehicles tend to truck parking areas of Bundesliga stadiums encountered when inside the ball rolling.
Matthias
Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
Hm, since you might be right. I turn times s.ein production team responsible for BWR Rotate. Hopefully I'll find something over the Internet since.
Antwort von Pianist:
Hm, since you might be right. I turn times s.ein production team responsible for BWR Rotate. Hopefully I'll find something over the Internet since. Want to leave now because cameraman image or engineer be?
Matthias
Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
Times when I ask the company "Schawa" below. The shoot mainly for SWR.
http://www.schawa.de/frameset.html
Antwort von Eva Maier:
personal commitment is the magic word, by writing you get a rejection auto.
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Antwort von PowerMac:
So the SWR television ever retires from ... the only trainees, for their study a Need ....
This is only the official version. Officially, there are synonymous in the ARD Hauptstadtstudio no student internships. Nevertheless you can on the internet internship students read reports of who were there. Remember: There is always an official version, but the practice is fortunately very different. There is then synonymous Recherche work again in demand - and personal use. The best way to events on the people and then immediately sent it off, if you like something they offer the prospect.
There are actually many great German truck service, whose vehicles tend to truck parking areas of Bundesliga stadiums encountered when inside the ball rolling.
Matthias There are at SWR in B.-B. synonymous called taster placements for students. The walk normally only a few days and a maximum of one week.
Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
Earlier someone of you said that I should not write applications, but notify me personally because I have written to inquire höchstwarscheinlich would get a rejection. Ne question yet. When I ask if I am familiar with the area ... I'm not a specialist since my 15.lebensjahr ... I am with the video. I know what shutter speed, aperture and co mean values but ranges from the moment? I could easily determine a Canon XL H1 operate. Is this for a 16-year-olds much or was it in the next age much as I? I can appreciate as bad, because I have no comparison to other ...
Antwort von Stegmaier:
To not completely off-topic to write anticipated relating to:
The job as a cameraman was very hard to get, because you just do not standardized pathway could happen. You just had to enforce and through good ideas and score reliability.
There was and is synonymous in Geberbe rotten eggs, the next by relations when it came their talent suggests.
Perhaps it sounds selfish, but I'm actually quite glad that the young man in the industry no general advice can give. Indeed, it would include all citizens norm, where perhaps their business or law school seems boring to an "enrollment" tempt.
I myself was to study a lot to unmotivert.
But I have had it done, despite my lack of internet sources and information and contacts to get.
S.17 I was next to the school free camera assistant on many productions of any kind is often unpaid. But because I often reliable and useful proposals had been established sometime.
Sometime own equipment purchased and orders will be processed. Often for maues Money. But it left an impression.
I somehow think it would be strange if it is now an abbreviation of the university there.
Maybe I'm narrow-minded, but I somehow believe that a cameraman (and then was asked yes) of two important criteria is:
1.The look for the right motive and the setting of the picture cut. Many people lack this view. Because you can study until it is black.
2.Natürlich the technical knowledge and the dexterity. All the things you learn s.der Camera. I had a graduate of the Munich Film School. The knew not how to Auflagemaß recruits. What should I be with someone? My intern, I actually hired primarily for illumination, it has then it's presented. This has only just completed her Fachabi ..... and for me a bit zugeguckt.
When I read that people with higher education, despite the Internet with its myriad search functions are not able, their contacts, this is just a confirmation of my assessment.
The difficult road to cameraman protect us from the people the Normweg want to go. The eingeeignet would be easy .... It is not a profession, to the one of vocational counselors is advised.
And now, off-topic:
@ powermac:
That's why I posted synonymous again, because I read the first entry I got the impression that I would be misunderstood.
1. I do not drink beer and sit s.Stammtisch not synonymous, nor otherwise I share at this level with eternally frustrated from yesterday.
I mix my clichés (the well known conditions are synonymous) with my own? Common sense.?. I hope not but that I am primitive. At least tell me otherwise None.
2. You make an education (I do not go out of pottery) must not be useful? OK, since we probably have different opinions. I believe that someone of knowledge at the expense of the community appropriates synonymous in this sensible way and manner should be able to give back. And that need not necessarily be financial. This is synonymous for me socially.
A training platform at university in Germany costs a lot of times now Money that is still to a large extent the public pays. Then I feel much more comfortable but if my income tax in the pension of a widowed grandmother is created as in the formation of a free spirit Berufsegoisten, which is formed but nothing else.
3. Hermeneutik Schöngeisterei and have your benefits synonymous. Because I give you right. I am a beautiful spirit synonymous. Intellectual thinking characterizes good movies. Is absolutely correct. But here we are again at the problem: What leads you to believe a course of study or automated enforces intellectual thinking? That is probably synonymous then a cliché. I know so many graduates do not have a damage report s.Ihre liability insurance can write without having to completely blamieren. Did not necessarily with intellectual thinking what to do, but it leaves some Schlü
Antwort von derpianoman:
An unshakeable love for the profession and the absolute "bite"
always "on the mat to stand," TRS to clean, call, etc ...
So, I experience it as a self-employed. Who is in the direction of BAT, 13 Salary,
Leave etc. pulls, or of others who expect that they would say, what you should do that it will not pack.
And that's why it can anyone advise synonymous. There must be
already "crazy" and nothing else to be eligible.
LG Klaus
Antwort von Beatfabrikant:
eieiei here ..... no grass grows more quickly.
Antwort von derpianoman:
If the comment referred to my statement again:
If school-leavers will ask me: I like to make music and think
maybe I could get my money-earning, but recently has times
someone said that one brotlose art is, then I would say:
The world will not wait for you. It is a rough wind blows there
(no more Grass). Let's look at the beautiful music as a hobby.
And the cameraman probably be not much different, or?
Antwort von Pianist:
And the cameraman probably be not much different, or?
Let us consider this: It depends. Very strong.
If you want to make a statistic would be how many people in Germany of her major of music and camera work to live, then it is probably much more than musicians give cameramen. We must not street musicians take as a benchmark, but we must then all is fair for books with that as a music teacher, orchestra musicians in a symphony orchestra, orchestral musician in a military chapel, church musician or just as a freelance musician working individual.
And when the camera crews must be fairness in addition to the very few who shoot movies or commercials, with all synonymous for books, news, features, documentaries, image films and porn films, and all synonymous in the multi-camera operation ski races, car races, football matches and Federal party transfer.
It really depends on what you exactly do. There are quite a lot of people who can live like this.
Matthias
Antwort von derpianoman:
That was:
Whether 2nd Violin last console or street musicians Karstadt,
or guitarist with Wolfgang Petry, or. . .
None of which has s.Anfang rumgefragt:
I do quite like music but have now heard that the
a loaf of bread should be loose Job ...
They've made it easy.
And do not ask.
Antwort von r.p. television:
The Piano Man's has taken in a few sentences what I have tried to say.
You should start the job because of personal enthusiasm for the thing to make.
A true enthusiast should initially not interested in the money. And only those people are really good.
The thing with this profession would Studies (better appeal) goes back to the German standard with all its limitations, conditions and provisions Bugsier.
I am still waiting on the day it s.dem courses for photo models, prostitutes, street cleaner or any other statute.
If someone laughs - just as I begin a course for cameramen before.
Antwort von derpianoman:
... Nothing against a course of study - 2've finally stopped myself ;-)
... But Paul McCartney has studied music?
I come with the enthusiasm that has captured me, when I 15 was
and the experiences I collect almost every day, as many next
with "Jodel diploma" ;-). Yes, it surprised even people with "Jodel diploma,"
none that I've ...
Klausi
PS Lorio forever! ... "A piano, a piano ... Mother, we thank thee!"
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
Something else ...
@ Eva Maier
Can you maybe link to your edit? You have to scroll down and her,
sensible to be able to read.
You make a word such as "link" that you can mark and with the
far right button URL formatierst. Then you set at the first bracket
after "url" a "=" and paste the previously copied link address (as in
Example).
The whole has something
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Schleich @ Michel
I have noticed that some links to write differently, but did not know that it is the rule. Always found it quite handy when you copy and paste with can work behind and just press it needs.
/ E [/ url]
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
I see only now that you can not edit: (
Well, now it is synonymous no preference, just for the future please ...
Generally, because of netiquette, not more than 78 characters long words or just insert links.
That it is easier for you to just insert the link, is already obvious. I could synonymous on the way to the baker through the gardens of my neighbors, because it is shorter. But I do not. Ask not why.
Antwort von Eva Maier:
What you see is that I've draufgedrückt. because your words, I had taken to heart.
But the fact that you do not go through neighbor's garden, is actually a shame because we know the cherries as it should be good.
(now would be actually the smilie)
/ E
Antwort von mickymaus2:
I come again to my question, I gave a couple of days I have made:
Earlier someone of you said that I should not write applications, but notify me personally because I have written to inquire höchstwarscheinlich would get a rejection. Ne question yet. When I ask if I am familiar with the area ... I'm not a specialist since my 15.lebensjahr ... I am with the video. I know what shutter speed, aperture and co mean values but ranges from the moment? I could easily determine a Canon XL H1 operate. Is this for a 16-year-olds much or was it in the next age much as I? I can appreciate as bad, because I have no comparison to other ...
Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
The above article was of me ...
Antwort von Pianist:
... But Paul McCartney has studied music?
This still quite general: Of course, a degree is no guarantee of career success. But it increases the chances of immensely. Therefore I think it is not always synonymous, so good, if occasionally in the media "prominent student dropout" are presented. There is, in my view, a wrong message behind: "You must not (too late) to study, look here, from Gottschalk and Jauch is what has become synonymous." It is often ignored that this is just a question of isolated cases. Most others get problems at some point, if they are after years of liberal somewhere to apply for a permanent position and there is a graduation requirement.
Even if you are an entrepreneur applying for public contracts, it must be some very accurate show what skills the staff have. Without my political science degree, I would not even many orders get.
Matthias
Antwort von Eva Maier:
The so what you write - what you believe, what you can, I think frankly not enough, your wish inevitably be compared to as little risk as possible, which is probably ggf of your predecessors or annoyed, which is also believed that he or can. Can you figure out yourself what it costs when a turning what was going wrong. Autodidact only will probably not work, because - I say loosely express - because each might come.
Make your own thoughts times what you require as an employer and would try to set up accordingly.
Here a hit Recommendation for a functioning land is probably not possible. Would synonymous with beautiful. But most of the tips are given at least a good guide.
/ (E
Antwort von Pianist:
Love Eva! Can you please times a clean habit of quoting? If you zitierst nothing, then nobody knows what you relate. You are my test just is not me but the Ursprungsfrager. Sauberes cite facilitates readability and prevents misunderstandings. I thank you most sincerely!
Matthias
Antwort von Eva Maier:
I would have gladly done so, but our posts have overlapped.
(next time then with @ name)
/ E
Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
I come again to my question, I gave a couple of days I have made:
Earlier someone of you said that I should not write applications, but notify me personally because I have written to inquire höchstwarscheinlich would get a rejection. Ne question yet. When I ask if I am familiar with the area ... I'm not a specialist since my 15.lebensjahr ... I am with the video. I know what shutter speed, aperture and co mean values but ranges from the moment? I could easily determine a Canon XL H1 operate. Is this for a 16-year-olds much or was it in the next age much as I? I can appreciate as bad, because I have no comparison to other ...
Antwort von mickymaus2:
I come again to my question, I gave a couple of days I have made:
this is now the third (!) times that you have exactly the same text post here. Just grow your Competently which unfortunately are not synonymous.
So what are you waiting for? Apply yourself or leave it!
Antwort von Pianist:
I could easily determine a Canon XL H1 operate. Is this for a 16-year-olds much or was it in the next age much as I? I can appreciate as bad, because I have no comparison to other ...
I now have a deja-vue?
Matthias
Antwort von Eva Maier:
@ Markus.Straub.
Your concern is a little unfortunate way hoes.
with 16 you can not work at night, and obs apprentices in the job there
I do not know, but you're also still Schulpflichtigt.
To make it short pile monentan are some hurdles to you until 2 years to overcome it.
Unfortunately
/ E
Antwort von PowerMac:
Eva, you really get used to a proper citation to. The dislike me for quite some time! The Youth Protection Act restricts working hours and actually loads. And? He could still picture the media designer / sound educated.
Antwort von PowerMac:
I come again to my question, I gave a couple of days I have made:
Earlier someone of you said that I should not write applications, but notify me personally because I have written to inquire höchstwarscheinlich would get a rejection. Ne question yet. When I ask if I am familiar with the area ... I'm not a specialist since my 15.lebensjahr ... I am with the video. I know what shutter speed, aperture and co mean values but ranges from the moment? I could easily determine a Canon XL H1 operate. Is this for a 16-year-olds much or was it in the next age much as I? I can appreciate as bad, because I have no comparison to other ...
Should I give you tap on the shoulder, because you're purported to designate a mediocre camera could operate? Presumption coupled with improbability in terms of technical skill? Camera work is art, feelings and everything else. The technique of an XL H1 is not interested. Anyone can learn in a few hours and does not belong to the abilities and skills training required of your profession. A basic technical knowledge of camera technique, however, is good. You are gifted with 16 not sure. Also interested in your young age. For apprenticeships and university places konkurrierst you anyway with older, experienced and spiritually mature competitors.
Antwort von mickymaus2:
For apprenticeships and university places konkurrierst you anyway with older, experienced and spiritually mature competitors.
The types probably thinks like the PowerMac :-)
Do not of the (m) "teacher" to Boxhorn hunt. The other cook only synonymous with water. Experience you just get through to learn / make and maturity can not be replaced by pithy sayings, which comes with time.
What the pianist has written here sounds quite fine. Ran s.die Buletten and taste.
Antwort von mickymaus2:
Ah yes, a synonymous one Quentchen luck to ...
Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
What I so wanted to ask, was whether you already synonymous in your youth with the shooting have employed, or only as adults have begun with the shooting =?
Antwort von r.p. television:
I think every cameraman has been in his youth with different types of plants more or less shone.
I have about 11 with the beginning of the 80s with the farmer in my father's Super8 stop-motion animated films with my Hasbro Star Wars toys made. Later, with S-VHS recordings followed Theater s.meiner school. Eventually, my film about the anniversary of my grammar school in a film award. These were the beginnings.
Quasi is with me from my hobby has become professional. The transition has at least 5 years.
Antwort von shizosen:
With currently 80 replies and 1358 clicks, this contribution of interest to cause confusion. Could someone please the thread title edit or explain to me what a "Kamerann" is? :)
Thank you!
Antwort von Pianist:
With currently 80 replies and 1358 clicks, this contribution of interest to cause confusion. Could someone please the thread title edit or explain to me what a "Kamerann" is? :)
Thank you!
Shall I tell you something? Until I just did not notice that, although otherwise I immediately noticed typos. Was it already the whole time, or so the error was later rein? Can someone remember?
Matthias
Antwort von PowerMac:
I noticed it does not synonymous. Ist ja interessant ...
Antwort von Axel:
Could someone please the thread title edit ...
Please do not! This is not the primary school.
... or explain to me what a "Kamerann" is? :)
Among other things, a human eye, the core of a case and recorded spontaneously, capable of handling this and cut together. He sees the forest, the only other trees ;-)
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
That was the whole time so.
@ Markus Straub
A Camera is ... or should be designed so that they are after some period of blindly use it. It is a huge difference, a camera can be operated or really to dominate his subject.
Visual language, color, lighting design, composition are just some of the fields that are only for the image design is needed. In addition, there is extensive knowledge on human cognition, one must take into account.
Later comes the synonymous technique, which some like to unconsciously assume that they can compensate for their own incompetence.
If you operate with Kamerafrauen-/männern, you'll notice that the usually very nice people. That may s.den nerves are strong, which is needed for filming. You should already be able to communicate well and quickly switch.
Maybe it's not a bad idea to get the course catalog of some film schools to obtain and Schaube, because if you already have a pseudo-self-on (with active support of literature and much practical work) can do.
You'll quickly discover that a cameraman is not only the knowledge from the manual that came with the camera will suffice.
Antwort von Pianist:
You'll quickly discover that a cameraman is not only the knowledge from the manual that came with the camera will suffice.
I like to do: When the cameraman as "Director of Photography (DOP), is then the camera does not operate, but he has his assistant. And the wizard does not rotate, there is the swivel.
Should read: Camera Wizard and form the solid unit, as well as orchestra and conductor. The cameraman ( "DOP") then just as designers to the conductor as the orchestra.
In practice, of course, today it mostly so that the cameraman with his camera itself must know, that's clear. And s.sich for all professional cameras is: Can one use, you can all use, because the controls always s.der same office. From the menu apart.
Matthias
Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
Sorry this is me garnicht noticed. Sorry. It is of course cameraman ...
Antwort von Axel Segebrecht:
After the storm now (hopefully) gewettert is my 2pennies relating to :-)
Who TV & Film Cameraman reads, knows that most people in the field of freelance / self-employed, which of course means that there is an eternal and on s.ist. Depending on the experience and talent, and customer will be paid synonymous. Sometimes just holding a little later than the rent or other bills must be paid.
I was up until last year my life long self-employed, and because it really crash irgentwann times I looked for me a permanent position. My cousin is at ZDF and trembles every year because he did not know whether his contract is extended. Payment, however, is not bad.
About when we grade of "brotlos" I would like to speak to you
Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
I got the cameraman are now just behind. Mir, it is important to study. Picture engineer. That is my goal.
Antwort von Pianist:
I got the cameraman are now just behind. Mir, it is important to study. Picture engineer. That is my goal.
You betray us then synonymous why you "Picture engineer" type and not an engineer or at least picture Picture engineer? And why you, "the cameraman to be" write? The article "the" but says that it is in the following word is a noun acting. So rather then have "the cameraman Be", synonymous if I would express it differently. And why do you write "is" in the middle of the big record? It seems to me that you look at your articles are not yet as a preview durchliest times before you finally submit it. Later s.der Uni you get serious problems if your lyrics are so many errors. And you have to remember so synonymous in the coming two to three years on a good Abi-average work.
Matthias
Antwort von Markus.Straub.:
Well, I'm actually used to s.Ende all the wrong words are painted. And mostly, I accidentally hit the "Submit" instead of "Preview"
Antwort von Pianist:
Well, I'm actually used to s.Ende all the wrong words are painted.
Then you should strongly and quickly to bring about a situation where you no longer needs to be painted. You're only 16 and have until Abi still a moment, so use it. For example, you should just read a lot. And I do not picture the newspaper.
Matthias
Antwort von shizosen:
Well, I'm actually used to s.Ende all the wrong words are painted. And mostly, I accidentally hit the "Submit" instead of "Preview"
http://forum.slashcam.de/viewtopic.php?p=202217 # 202217
Antwort von PowerMac:
I got the cameraman are now just behind. Mir, it is important to study. Picture engineer. That is my goal.
You betray us then synonymous why you "Picture engineer" type and not an engineer or at least picture Picture engineer? And why you, "the cameraman to be" write? The article "the" but says that it is in the following word is a noun acting. So rather then have "the cameraman Be", synonymous if I would express it differently. And why do you write "is" in the middle of the big record? It seems to me that you look at your articles are not yet as a preview durchliest times before you finally submit it. Later s.der Uni you get serious problems if your lyrics are so many errors. And you have to remember so synonymous in the coming two to three years on a good Abi-average work.
Matthias
Had I read his first posting, I would have said exactly synonymous.
Unmotivated and pointless such errors. And they show m. M. after quite a lot about using language and feeling. How to be a verb in the sentence can write large, I do not synonymous. Or that "Picture" and "engineer" belong together, it is clear. Or not?
Antwort von Axel Segebrecht:
erm .. I find it irgentwie echt krass we instead tell us about the "topic" to entertain, rather than spelling and grammar is. but perhaps I see the so synonymous with violent ...
Antwort von PowerMac:
Irgentwie yes.
Antwort von Pianist:
erm .. I find it irgentwie echt krass we instead tell us about the "topic" to entertain, rather than spelling and grammar is. but perhaps I see the so synonymous with violent ...
It now has two times what to do with each other. It is better if we use it early on in these things before anyone realizes much later and do it then maybe already too late. So far, he has us synonymous still does not reveal what contacts he has recorded so far and whether he now times s.einer truck door have knocked. If yes dazwischengewesen a weekend and so far as I know, has played the Bundesliga. He could look at the program synonymous journals carefully study and look where near major external transfers are planned. If he really wants to be engineer image, he finds his partner.
Somehow I can Mark Straub previously did not appreciate. I see a great risk that he someday s.heutigen subject of a days by request, in which the word "beat" system.
Matthias
Antwort von Jürgen F.:
Hello Markus Straub
I got the impression after all the posts - after all it is already 4 pages - You do not have the right plan for your future.
To get the whole thing a bit too short here, I offer you the following solution:
I give you a half hour phone call at my own expense (but fixed), and I try to you 40 years as a cameraman Brufserfahrung to discuss. Maybe to you about it or synonymous discouraged.
Unfortunately I will not be comprehensible way my phone disclose.
It is s.Dir.
More I can not offer you.
Grüße Jürgen F
Antwort von rtzbild:
hallo erstmal and apologize that I seem to people attacked because of my spelling and it was synonymous nor negative criticism will apologize that I represent as solch'eine expressive .... [...]
... I wish you all what, and trying other people when they ask you for help, ladies free, aussagekrätftig and professional advice, otherwise I see the forum as I am no way of expert advice ...
with best regards
minos
Yes, thanks for the wishes.
Unfortunately, dear minos, unfortunately missing you a little experience in dealing with the Internet, specifically in this case an Internet forum.
There is also no "expert forum" or virtual merger of media professionals, to guckst You probably better in the forum of "The Cameraman" or similar.
Here are just normal Leutz with all its quirks, o)
A tip, therefore selective and read only on the answer, what is really important.
Similarly the filmmaker saying: "Kill Your Darlings', o)
HTH
Olli
* unskilled * Paparazzo
Antwort von Markus.Straub:
I have still 3 years until my Abi. There is still plenty of time to get thoughts on the profession to make. I wanted to stop ever of you oldies in this branch :-) know how it is there. That with the truck is very bad for us. I rarely come into the big city. We can speak of happiness, times when a reporter from the newsletter we have a photo shoot. But anyway thank you again for your (partially) useful info
Antwort von rtzbild:
If you've followed the thread then you know where it ends, - here in Slashcam forum days and night.
Exactly so.
From hundreds of wannabes are holding only one or two through.
WERS not packed days here may be here and (especially in) the night buffoon play.
You see one or the other so synonymous s.seinem "collegial" tone the discontent and despair over their irrevocable failure. [...]
Nope, I do not see it, but when one asks "Where do I learn car mechanic" I imagine, at least, that he is out of schonmal in car plants, or was present at the Chamber of Commerce. And who is looking for an internship, the synonymous with the Bürgerfunk have, you have to just go out there.
Leutz Sorry, but "media industry", "make news" and "on the Internet" is synonymous with what little bit of research to do, not just sip champagne at private views, or with the very large pool in the industry sit.
And who says that he is here angepisst should look to consider whether the same question last week synonymous already been asked and answered.
"Media Design" for example, could serve as a search synonymous.
HTH
Olli
* Lone, learning by doing *
Antwort von rtzbild:
So the SWR television ever retires from ... the only trainees, for their study a Need .... And many more other channels, there is not with us. Perhaps even Regio TV ULM ... lol. the times are so full the loooser. If you watch their work, because I had nothing to learn.
When Ulmer Looser, then I wonder why you do not have a Umzugins sights?
As a cameraman (or whatever) is required to travel.
And if you think about that you as a citizen at times television show can really what you have on it, then an internship lasting several schonmal very well as a reference, as I have all my newspaper articles and TV-lift, no preference how high / low the fee for this was.
Furthermore, there synonymous award-winning productions from the "Bürgerfunk houses", o)
HTH
Olli
Antwort von Pianist:
I rarely come into the big city.
* grrrr * metropolis.
And should it really be that there is no dump in your bus stop there? From train stations so I will not even talk ... Want tips here for your professional future, but are not even in the position to you in the closest city to go? You're already 16 and still no little kid anymore. Maybe your company so parents take a trip with corresponding Dir Which cities are closest to you because in the vicinity? You have so far not yet reveal. I read of you here only things that speak against something and little things that speak for something. That is totally wrong and basic setting I must honestly admit that I was gradually nervt.
Matthias
Antwort von rtzbild:
And the cameraman probably be not much different, or?
Let us consider this: It depends. Very strong.
[...]
And when the camera crews must be fairness in addition to the very few who shoot movies or commercials, with all synonymous for books, news, features, documentaries, image films and porn films, and all synonymous in the multi-camera operation ski races, car races, football matches and Federal party transfer.
It really depends on what you exactly do. There are quite a lot of people who can live like this.
Matthias
And if you as the "Graf Porno" Money meritorious, it is ok?
There is what in the industry, which take 50 per DVD, with 15 others are happy if you anschaust you like it, you know why.
Mach hold your own thing, running your own course, and if you are lucky, your name is soon on all DVDs +18 o)
LG Olli
* thus no problem, because synonymous porn is to turn work hard, because some scenes may simply not be nachgedreht, o) *
Antwort von rtzbild:
What I so wanted to ask, was whether you already synonymous in your youth with the shooting have employed, or only as adults have begun with the shooting =?
Yes, as an adult, 24 (1990) in the taxi.
At night there was, where there are pictures, the pictures the right customers and offered again next thing is always kept.
Sometime then increasingly been called and sometime with it, o)
And since then learn, learn, learn from all sources, channels, media.
Free time for really well-meaning colleagues, sometimes expensive paid.
Good times material delivered, garbage times on film and tape.
OK?
Good luck!
Olli
Antwort von shizosen:
And the cameraman probably be not much different, or?
Let us consider this: It depends. Very strong.
[...]
And when the camera crews must be fairness in addition to the very few who shoot movies or commercials, with all synonymous for books, news, features, documentaries, image films and porn films, and all synonymous in the multi-camera operation ski races, car races, football matches and Federal party transfer.
It really depends on what you exactly do. There are quite a lot of people who can live like this.
Matthias
And if you as the "Graf Porno" Money meritorious, it is ok?
There is what in the industry, which take 50 per DVD, with 15 others are happy if you anschaust you like it, you know why.
Mach hold your own thing, running your own course, and if you are lucky, your name is soon on all DVDs +18 o)
LG Olli
* thus no problem, because synonymous porn is to turn work hard, because some scenes may simply not be nachgedreht, o) *
Da hast du recht. It can be very painful with a latte Steadycam the belt them.
Antwort von rtzbild:
With currently 80 replies and 1358 clicks, this contribution of interest to cause confusion. Could someone please the thread title edit or explain to me what a "Kamerann" is? :)
Thank you!
Shall I tell you something? Until I just did not notice that, although otherwise I immediately noticed typos. Was it already the whole time, or so the error was later rein? Can someone remember?
Matthias
The brain believes something to see what is not there, the word image is somewhat familiar, so the brain interprets the "m" to do so.
This is written: http://www.auftanken.de/bl_zeugnisse/2006-01-19/http://www.akrue.privat.t-online.de/dumm61.htm
HTH Olli
Antwort von rtzbild:
And if you as the "Graf Porno" Money meritorious, it is ok?
[...]
LG Olli
* thus no problem, because synonymous porn is to turn work hard, because some scenes may simply not be nachgedreht, o) *
Da hast du recht. It can be very painful with a latte Steadycam the belt them.
LOL
I do not have a Steadycam, but was in the past 4 weeks on two low-budget shoots with "adult content".
And whether you believe it or not, my whole attention was paid to the viewfinder screen, the shadow vorraussichtlichen and the direction of movement of the actors.
Nothing was to me also when I s.Schatzkästchen the actress to amuse, the rotary had to sit, every scene, every setting, otherwise, the amateur models (from tolerant Internet communities zusammengetrommelt) sometime tired and go.
Can be synonymous, that there is s.meinem ADHD, but I've almost only seen after the cut, which is on the tape it is.
LG Olli
Antwort von r.p. television:
Somehow, it my way (and I believe not only me) that your desire picture cameraman and engineer from a momentary whim arose. Or am I mistaken?
Neither you what you write so far in this direction have not done what you've done so far (except here) to you about your desire to make smart career.
Do you really (again) next to my (perhaps not wrongly) criticized posting confirmed?
When you write you do not come so easily to the next big city - because where do you live exactly? Germany now has the ball really is not space density of Kazakhstan.
When I with 17 - I was so synonymous not the convenience of a car - my internship with a free production company had made - saw all this:
One hour of arrival to the sound engineer and assistant with the Railways. From there drive to the cameraman (15 minutes), of there trip to the camera rental and management (30min), then drive to a golf course (about 30min).
We shot a profile on a golf professional, the next tournament we are synonymous in training everyday and we escorted Advice visually documented by interview and commentary (about 8-10 hours).
In practice it looked like that I walk a whole day a truly adult-Sachtler Tripod with 150mm Bowl (with monster head and no legs carbonfibre) over a fairly hilly course had worn - estimated weight 12 kilos.
Then quickly build up, head into the water bring up Camera, rausholen gray, off camera, tripod folds ahead and run. Finally, the actor could not wait.
Reward after a 12 hour day: Besides lots of experience both shoulder blue and a lunch at the golf club. The ticket of the S-Bahn of course I could pay themselves.
The whole was then about 6 days at the greatest summer heat. While all my friends were s.See I was filming the reality of a life offered. That was really hard - especially if you do not get a penny for and do not know how the efforts are paying off.
But my enthusiasm was about detours and it is a profession has become.
But until then, there were numerous hurdles.
You might want to have is not too bad at times referred to his proposals.
And s.der spelling (it is apparently not a typo) you should really work. Because that can later be really embarrassing and None takes you seriously. Even as a camera or image rather than engineer often enough you have to write scripts.
If you have not discouraged (because you described certainly synonymous for a study expected) maybe you're the right person for it.
Antwort von r.p. television:
Oh yes. And because I am just another of the entries rtzbild've read:
Even if you do not just "Graf Porno" will be, you as a cameraman in the future with an inconvenience to fight:
You will at some point a girlfriend, fiancé / wife.
Believe me after all that initial enthusiasm or tolerance hate to be your profession. At least then if you make a contribution on a Miss election, photo model, Spriptease dancers or you simply turn on parties.
Cameras (and usually synonymous people they serve) have a certain attraction to certain girls / women. That may be in single angenehnm his times. But later your partner will know this fact and more or less pleased to respond to certain requests. This can often degenerate to the dispute or even a separation reason.
Antwort von Pianist:
Cameras (and usually synonymous people they serve) have a certain attraction to certain girls / women.
So I like this but really did not know. If so nice if it were. But for this I probably do the wrong issues.
Matthias
Antwort von nexus1980:
Cameras (and usually synonymous people they serve) have a certain attraction to certain girls / women.
So I like this but really did not know. If so nice if it were. But for this I probably do the wrong issues.
But yet. The total is synonymous to technology or cars. Otherwise it would not take photos in order to / that räkeln.
Antwort von Pianist:
But yet. The total is synonymous to technology or cars. Otherwise it would not take photos in order to / that räkeln.
But ultimately it probably will but at the guy. Some would probably synonymous not use a Ferrari. And I hardly think that a woman is of an acquittal as "may, I'm going out my show HDW-750?" seriously would impress.
Herrjeh, now we have the thread but finally ruined ... :-)
Matthias
Antwort von rtzbild:
Oh yes. And because I am just another of the entries rtzbild've read:
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Cameras (and usually synonymous people they serve) have a certain attraction to certain girls / women. That may be in single angenehnm his times.
Aloha, which was already on my time as a press photographer as follows:
The cliché says, the Party, always everywhere at first, already knows the news of tomorrow, is s.den hot spots of world events and aufjedem Buiffet, always has money in his pocket, nothing comes across is somehow pure and so'n 007-blending; o)
If any good, yet something about this name-dropping and star your career is done, at least horizontally, o)
Fun aside, it is sometimes, not always, but not always synonymous excluded.
Who you attract, smaller local politicians and any asterisks, but it affects me less, I've always my (fixed) pearl as trusted assistant there.
LG Olli
* One of a million *
Antwort von r.p. television:
Since I am beside industry synonymous in the event very much and boulevard area, I myself probably a relevant area. To the dismay of my girlfriend, who do not want more synonymous in the form of an assistant to play the watchdog :-(
Antwort von rtzbild:
Since I am beside industry synonymous in the event very much and boulevard area, I myself probably a relevant area. To the dismay of my girlfriend, who do not want more synonymous in the form of an assistant to play the watchdog :-(
And then yes, the material for a reality-soap would o)
"Welcome to RP Television, Soap s.Freitag the afternoon, today is next with" Can RP still save his relationship? "
* Commercial break *
SCNR; o)
LG Olli
Antwort von Picture-Tom:
I have still 3 years until my Abi. There is still plenty of time to get thoughts on the profession to make. I wanted to stop ever of you oldies in this branch :-) know how it is there. That with the truck is very bad for us. I rarely come into the big city. We can speak of happiness, times when a reporter from the newsletter we have a photo shoot. But anyway thank you again for your (partially) useful info
Hello Mark!
Since there are probably a lot of pockets and Laber Dummschwätzer there.
Here is professional advice of a real image of the engineer for almost 20 years in business:
- A Study on Image Engineering, there is not!
- You can but as Pictureíngenieur at a station set, eg if you are one of the following, mostly Fachhoschul courses, completes searched: media technology, television, communication equipment. However, this requires advance that you have your studies accompanying internships (mostly 3rd and 6th Semester) at a TV station have made! You can study for example television s.der FH Stuttgart.
- If you have a lot of money you can have a private synonymous FH eg Macromedia Fachhochschule der Medien (No, Adobe has nothing to do with!) Visit. There is as synonymous to Cameraman training offered. Macromedia has several locations, such as Stuttgart and Munich.
- Another way to Bilding. is the path through a media training program for designers or synonymous radio and television technicians, then employed as a technician and picture after a few years then you will mostly rely on this image engineering.
- Image engineer is incidentally not a protected term, it can be any name synonymous picture engineer, for example, a baker, when he says to him that helps ;-)
- I myself have studied Nachrichtentechnik, my internship at a private station chain and then made it synonymous side image as a freelance technician working on your CV which incidentally is very well done!
- Since you still have a little time, I would recommend you at least thee times the regional stations to Ulmer and there may be a trial placement to make. Although it is perhaps not the world of television is that you imagine yourself, but of course there is at least trying to make TV :-)
- Nevertheless, it is always pointed out that you are very very independent and need to be studying in a big city must go.
Good luck.
Tom
