Frage von amlug:
Hello s.alle,
I want to buy the Panasonic HDC-SD300. In
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Warranty: How is that going? Is that about the provider or directly s.Panasonic?
SDHC cards: SD 300 needs 17 Mb / s, ie Class 4, right? Is it worth the most expensive cards of SanDisk or you can take cheap synonymous?
Battery: Original Addition of Panasonic batteries are quite expensive. Of Hama are cheaper alternative? Which type should be taken where?
I would be very grateful if someone could answer me these questions. Thank you and best regards,
Amlug
Antwort von Frank B.:
Hello Amlug,
I've bought yesterday a. SD card I have made Class 4 of Panasonic. A little pricey, but I wanted to be on the safe page. 16 GB synonymous many times only for a while.
Warranty should be 2 years in a German dealer. The dealer is the contact person in case of warranty.
Some Batteries of any third party have the problem that they have no maturity-display allow what is already crap. Whether all or Hama then, I have not been able to find out. Some cheap seem synonymous bring mechanical problems (rattling; to bend contacts that fit) is not correct.
Frank
Antwort von amlug:
Ah ok, thank you. Then perhaps I'll take the Panasonic-synonymous SDHCs.
Anyone who has spare batteries with alternative providers of experience?
Antwort von Neufilmerin:
Hello,
important I think even synonymous, depending on the choice that one has a wide-angle attachment.
I have of my current camcorder nor the Raynox HD-6600 Pro 52nd With filter adapter. In small rooms a very good solution.
I'm just a little perplexed, what me such a wide Anglebei brings an HD camcorder? Still, I'll buy me get something better picture quality.
Since you are also the Panasonic camcorder buying / have bought, I would be interested in a second opinion. Will you use a wide-angle attachment - although the picture quality certainly suffers?
Regards
Regina
Antwort von edgar:
Hello Amlug,
I've bought yesterday a. SD card I have made Class 4 of Panasonic. A little pricey, but I wanted to be on the safe page. 16 GB synonymous many times only for a while.
Warranty should be 2 years in a German dealer. The dealer is the contact person in case of warranty.
Some Batteries of any third party have the problem that they have no maturity-display allow what is already crap. Whether all or Hama then, I have not been able to find out. Some cheap seem synonymous bring mechanical problems (rattling; to bend contacts that fit) is not correct.
Frank For Batteries I recommend using the originals - because of the warranty that might otherwise be extinguished, in emergencies!?
And ... a trader gives a warranty and only the Manufacturer itself is a guarantee!
Greeting edgar
Antwort von amlug:
For Batteries I recommend using the originals - because of the warranty that might otherwise be extinguished, in emergencies!? Sure? Or the question mark indicates that you do not exactly know?
And ... a trader gives a warranty and only the Manufacturer itself is a guarantee! What exactly is the warranty as opposed to the guarantee?
@ Neufilmerin: I have always got along without WW essay. Would still be money left over, I would think about it, but I want to I prefer to purchase a Steadycam ...
mfg Amlug
Antwort von edgar:
Maybe this will help next:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garantie
But no preference, in case of damage is probably still the only dealer in the first point of contact. He heads next then, if necessary ...
Gruß Edgar
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
which is itself of hochstudierten people still manufactured - Guarantee and Warranty cut into a pot.
Is actually quite simple to make it short:
Warranty 2 years compulsory in Germany.
But!!
After 6 months, turning the evidentiary burden (; BGB) read 337, that means the Manufacturer to the customer (can impose the evidential burden;) lies in its discretion. He can say after his zb Canon Warranty 1 year, after 13 months of purchase, you impose the full repair cost, he can take it but synonymous to its own cap or 50:50 split.
With 2 years warranty is the statutory 2 years warranty entirely German sausage, because this guarantees Panasonic 2 years that no damage can occur - Post-repair so go to Panasonic.
In addition to case damage and water damage, or as already described (by the use of cheap and defective Fremdzubehör; eg Batteries without surge protection as eg the Ebay) 5 ¬ parts.
Canon Unfortunately, there is only 1 years warranty with the manufacturers eg Kodak Photo synonymous with one years is there. Panasonic, JVC and Sonygeben mere 2 years warranty, Panasonic to yet (on any camera, where it comes from no preference) 1 year warranty worldwide.
As Internet retailers sell like gray imports - just the cheapest provider - with a warranty claim, perhaps 50-100 changed your previously saved ¬ 300 ¬ to repair. This is often the case with most Canon and Sonyvor who ruthlessly refuse warranty repairs of gray imports.
The Internet retailer will give the customer in the event alone and with each Returning the customer not to Canon Camera & Sonyweitergeben, but the customer when necessary Camera 5x return - was with the message - fixed. You can read in many forums and reviews.
I had bought only the last few weeks, a Canon customer - the gray market, so popular Dixons - Canon has refused. Customer may scrap or pay the 158 ¬ themselves. That's life synonymous.
You already look cheap is not always cheap.
In some stores, the SD is 300 price at about 50-90 ¬ more expensive, do not forget the delivery costs for Internet companies of some ¬ 15.
I find at 50-90 ¬ at just under ¬ 1000 Camera value is a sure guarantee, a partner in all questions, quick and free sending of the firms are not too expensive, but you must know her.
I currently eg, the SD 20 for 499 ¬ (and many other synonymous Ladengschäfte) - which gives the Internet is not synonymous with shipping is cheaper, which for some cameras in the class.
Rechargers, there is little that is s.den copy VBG Batteries. Panasonic wants just by new contacts with the Batteries of any third-party taken away their cameras. In the photo section there are synonymous constantly new firmware updates that disable rechargers (; the purchase of a new camera may have already played on the camera). Then go again no more rechargers.
For larger suppliers, such as eg Hama Battery VBG I am not known.
VG
January
Antwort von amlug:
Hello Jan, thank you for the clarification. You got me there alerted to something that is actually realized what I had not thought of yet.
Basically, I would rather buy synonymous (in the store, my past and my camcorder Fotoapperat I bought from a local photo retailer). With this camcorder, however, are 150 euros from the online price and the price at Saturn. Although I have not demanded for smaller merchants, because I assumed that there is more expensive still.
When selected provider the full name of your camcorder "PANASONIC HDC-SD300EG-K Black", is with the words "German goods!" - I do not know whether you can rely on the latter, but I should be able to send back the order if it is not exactly exact product with that name is, am I right? I have researched on the Internet that only models with have this abbreviation-EC (; "Europe Germany") in Germany warranty (, K will stand for black). Accordingly, it would not be a gray market and the guarantee is no problem - right?
Edit: I would probably order from Fotomundus. The provider seems to be serious, is from Germany and is mentioned here in the forum frequently positive (: once with the specific indication that it is the purchased product to the original German goods with guarantee card constitutes dt). Camera gibts there including shipping for only 30 euros more (; in cash plus 6 euros), synonymous with the explicit German type designation.
Bzgl. of Batteries I have had to convince myself, I will order an original if needed.
Antwort von Neufilmerin:
Hello,
I now the Panasonic 300 SD camcorder I ordered, I am interested in the accessories.
With Sandisc memory cards I have made in other units, good experience and would want to stick with it. Ultra II, but I know of only small memory size.
My question: 16 or 32 GB? Does it have the same risks of buying a 32 GB memory card? I need s.einem afternoon / evening, approximately 2.5 hours space. If the memory card with 16 MB less prone to failure?
Would the best quality for approximately 2.5 hours to fit on a 16 GB?
Regards
Regina
Antwort von Jan:
@ Amlug - well, I have the SD 300 for 999 ¬ here, so more 80 ¬ for the better-known Internet merchants.
It is now a time but not at company XYZ, you should face up honestly. Sure, gibts synonymous satisfied internet customers. I buy my books, CDs, almost synonymous'm only at Amazon - and very enthusiastic of the fast delivery and the first-class choice. Some users, but rather go to the bookstore discussed extensively around him.
Everyone should do as he sees fit.
Yes, at Panasonic, I would have the least concerns because the company has a worldwide warranty of 1 years awards. With other companies is quite clearly the question of Europe warranty - Canon Sonyand take exactly. According to your description it sounds goods to Germany. However, it is intended to give companies that have demonstrated rechargers in the original box - one reads s.and to some sellers.
@ Neufilmerin
So the San Disk Ultra is relatively difficult to get broken before too, is really very rare for exchange. 32 GB or less, but they are so much less sold.
But please, not the simple San Disk (; buy blue - red), the level is significantly less.
Actually the 16 GB would be even faster - as they have sought less to address "" in speed test of users and magazines but are rather the 32 GB cards in front. This could indicate s.besseren components of the larger and more expensive cards. At San Disk & Panasonic cards, the same design but larger cards are classified as the same speed.
I was just surprised that Panasonic is a Class 2 card is sufficient holding (; Manual SD 300), although the minimum speed of 2 Mb / s = 16 Mbit / sec ie class 2 card so just the 17 Mbps recording speed of the SD 300 in the best quality allows for (; according to the figures actually not 100%).
Since Panasonic is often used an extra buffer memory - it's probably still work if the camera takes in the best quality, and the card briefly hinterherhängt minimal.
Canon immediately locks the recording in a Class 2 card.
Yes, around the 2 stood at 16 GB - but beware - this is a prediction of the camera, the time can vary even.
VG
January
Antwort von Neufilmerin:
Hello Jan,
Thanks for the reply.
I have now decided on the SanDisk Ultra II SDHC 32GB.
Regards
Regina
Antwort von Neufilmerin:
Hello,
Meanwhile, I tested the SanDisk Ultra II SDHC 32GB with h2testw_1.4 and only come to a writing rate of about 11 MByte / s. No errors reported.
This value seems a little low? Because it is written on the packaging 15th I read the card with the Cartreader s.PC.
I want to use this SanDisk 32GB SDHC II with the Panasonic 300 SD camcorder. Are the 11 MByte / s fast enough?
I will be there the day after s.Camcorders can try.
Regards
Regina
Antwort von actaion:
Hello,
This value seems a little low? Because it is written on the packaging 15th I read the card with the Cartreader s.PC.
I want to use this SanDisk 32GB SDHC II with the Panasonic 300 SD camcorder. Are the 11 MByte / s fast enough?
The answer is already 2 posts on yours.
Antwort von Neufilmerin:
Hello actaion,
sorry, I had now skipped. I am with this MB / s or get a complete muddle.
Regards
Regina
Antwort von Jan:
The 15 MB / sec are not always schaffbar for the card. Bescheissen Thus the company can not so easily "," gibts ja classes.
And since getting the Ultra Class 4, is 15 MB / sec synonymous hochgegriffen a bit, as it still Class 6 (; are still 6 MB / sec read and write) and Class 10 (; always 10 MB / sec).
Class 4 is sufficient for all consumers of only the new Olympus EP 1 would like to a Class 6 have. This is the model but s.den synonymous with the Camera special effects in movie mode and the data rate of 33 Mbit / sec and with MJPEG Recording.
VG
January
Antwort von Neufilmerin:
Hello Jan,
Thanks for the detailed explanation. That I understand and am reassured.
Regards
Regina
Antwort von Neufilmerin:
Hello,
I have a question about SDHC memory cards.
What happens with the card because if the battery fails during a recording? If then the entire recording in danger or just the last second?
A Akkuaufall can happen and, unfortunately, because it interested me, whether it (the recording, press it, perhaps by "pause") on the card can save save irgendie?
Regards
Regina
Antwort von Jan:
Good question!
I think this could be Firmenabhängig.
When the synonymous cam I've noticed many times when the camera goes away with some juice, so the battery is empty, driving some companies (; eg Panasonic) is still one of Optics and go out then. Other companies are inside of 1 sec with their elevated Optics "dead" and not say anything more.
This should be well tested before. Because even a 4 GB file (; may save a larger file may be), it would be annoying if the ca 30 min (; at Sonyoder Pana), or about 20 minutes (and Canon and JVC with 24 Mbits / sec) gone were.
I've never tested because I am a good filmmaker (; always have this big battery) and rare films to 1%. Although the SonyPD 170 MiniDV Camera I got 960s already have a blank, the camera went off (;) after repeated warnings. But cassettes are something else, but I would still say that the file is not complete 4GB of flash memory in use is gone, because the camera even in between stores.
Press pause is probably the safest option to obtain complete data.
VG
January
Antwort von partylogger:
I have the TM300 (; identical to the SD300, but with extra). 32GB internal flash memory. (I use Drittakkus for generations of cameras and camcorders, except when prevented my GH1, since the use of Drittakkus is via firmware).
Good, who Drittakkus have a serious problem:
(No display the remaining capacity, unless you are some that have a built-in capacity gauge. Risisko has: it goes away in a current recording of the juice. This acknowledges the TM300 (directly with a failure in the control data of the SD card or internal memory; was halt grad was active). After a brief display "running repairs" were never far away data.
In addition, I pay attention to the Drittakkus take care not what, whose origin is uncertain. The usual safeguards against short circuits, overload, etc. must already be present.
I am doing but I really reluctant to buy completely overpriced Batteries of the Manufacturer, only because they are too kniepig to resolve their most powerful battery devices.
Antwort von Neufilmerin:
Thanks for the replies.
Yes, I just see it. While I do not buy original Batteries, but make it quality. The lack of a rest I try to avoid running indication that I buy a bigger battery (and when I need during the shoot) to s.end have yet to air ...
I hope I never have to experience a battery failure. If you do, then I write here, as it is with the data. ;-)
I have another question, and although the picture quality:
Why is the automatic is only the second highest picture quality? HG? - I changed this setting in HA.
Apart from the Space HA has disadvantages? As I said, HG was automatically adjusted (; must indeed have a reason?).
Regards
Regina
Antwort von partylogger:
.....
Why is the automatic is only the second highest picture quality? HG? - I changed this setting in HA.
Apart from the Space HA has disadvantages? As I said, HG was automatically adjusted (; must indeed have a reason?).
...... So my TM300 (switches for automatic or intelligent automatic; iA) not on a certain quality level of recording. This is delivered your own principled attitude and regardless of the automatic settings like white balance, aperture, etc. However, the camera will s.Werk or Reset to HG, or reset.
Antwort von amlug:
@ party logger and Neufilmerin: What are you doing Drittakkus used in the Panasonic? Myself, who would want to buy.
Regards
Amlug
