Infoseite // Leica M9 better than D3 and Canon 5D MKII



Frage von tom:


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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"The days of the DSLR for serious digital nature, outdoor, interior and landscape photography are numbered"
With all due respect to Mr. Rockwell, but the conclusion drawn from this test is very questionable. The debate between SLR and rangefinder camera is not even come up with the M9, but several decades. Both systems have their strengths and weaknesses, and any more than M5, M6 and M7 of the F3, F4 and F5 were able to extinguish the light of life (and vice versa), will create the M9 with D3, D700 and 5D MkII - whether analog or digital, is on This Comparison no preference.
That to 'serious' nature photography is not only wide, but synonymous tele-and macro shots are (both logically) weak points of a rangefinder camera, can the American Rockwell probably largely from the outside, not without reason, but mainly, the sensor is also the M9 Americans .. .

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Antwort von photodudi:

Compare alone tatsache zoom lenses with fixed focal lengths in a test that disqualified mr. rockwell already.
that a 16-35 wide angle zoom not s.eine leica festbrennweite ran is probably not a secret.
since it is quite synonymous no preference for a system which is mounted behind the lens is.

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Antwort von Zizi:

Quote: Compare alone tatsache zoom lenses with fixed focal lengths in a test that disqualified mr. rockwell already.
that a 16-35 wide angle zoom not s.eine leica festbrennweite ran is probably not a secret.
since it is quite synonymous no preference for a system which is mounted behind the lens is.

I look so synonymous .. Is screwed a macro FB s.einer 5D or D3 sees exactly conversely!
The comparison is just Ridiculous especially the Canon glass is not just HOT!
Besides these why should not it be so .. Leica will cost 6000 ¬ has an equally large sensor.

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Antwort von KrischanDO:

Hi,

well, that here is so wonderful to be peaceful. In the Nikon forum ignite s.Rockwells statements regularly hate speech from religious delusions and uncontrolled social envy.

Sure, if I go and wants to make a few large landscapes, the M9 with the 28er easier and probably even sharper than my D700 with MB10 and 24-70 2.8.
For the ¬ 5,000 price difference, I let myself wear of the D700 simply a lovely assistant ...

Regards
Christian

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

So although I'm only a Voigtlander Bessa R2 and just 1 and Eos Canon Eos 1V and a EOS 400 plus another 2 Mamiya Cams (645 and RB67) and ne Miu Olympus 1030 SW. (This is the Cams and I have in the main application, but have yet nen few others, the list fills an entire wardrobe for me and all are Functionally)

In addition any quantity of lentils different providers.

I can not understand the Comparison.

A Bessa or Leica M out of me is in no way better than the Canon or Mamiya Cams.

The Bessa Vortteil s.der are repays the optics .... but with the Leica or Zeiss lenses, I get equivalent photos.

If that is really a question of faith.

I prefer to clear her handling of the EOS 1, it cams in combination with L IS lenses.

For landscapes and macro I prefer manual Leica and Zeiss lenses (in Macro Bellows)

I do usually take pictures with Kodak Elite Chrome Pro DIA to 100 ISO

Rarely 200s or 400s (for sports AAufnahmen in the forest for example)

I do scan all the images with a large transmitted light scanner of Canon and Agfa did little old table scanners nen but no longer counts against the Canon.

Print tu nem me with HP 130nr Plotter, or on Hahnemühle Ilford.

I can only say that there really ne ala Leica Camera or Voigt countries, a nostalgic product is aufkeinen and makes the case better images than the SLR's.

It's just once is fun little Bessa use or to pose less "but actually photographed in the sense that it is operated - the comb is no longer in my mind - this you are really too slow.

Also I have a lot to work with flash equipment as are the canons of handling much better.

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Conclusion - the test is given here is a pure fanboy marketing Preformance and I would never get to buy a Leica.

MAC vs PC is like at all a question of users and the final result ... only intressiert the paying customers.

In my eyes, you have to build with all the cameras "see Picture / - who is not able to paint with light and ideas can have the best camera and it still makes only shit pictures ;-)

MfG
B. DeKid

PS: bite needs to edit images today anyway to get out of the crowd ;-)!!!

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Antwort von K.mera:

Ken has a downright racist dislike for Asian products, his comment "buy American! M9 The sensor is of Kodak" is incredibly ridiculous.
Nevertheless, the M9 is incredibly good and Prime Lenses are much better than zooms - but we know this for a long time.
I think it's a shame that he presents a pretty stupid Comparison to prove that the M9, the first real digital alternative to film photograph is inveterate idealists. The M9 has it really not necessary.

Or is it?

Jurgen

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Antwort von meawk:

Typical amino Schei *** - sorry, but as a cheese can not be left unchallenged. Dashing sensor of Kodak. . .
"Buy American" - but what has s.der wafer, the boy. The Leica M9 in the getesten combination of him for about 9 to 10K for photography, since one's jaw drops down.

Since one shot with a G1 as well. . . or even better because of the AF image in many situations - sometimes the only full-frame sensor s.Rande weighted. He needs a doctor: The cam is actually made in Germany. . . yeeeeeeeeep - or? Good - it was a time and never come back. Is there only the name / German mark, the contents safe but no longer. . .

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

"K.mera" wrote: .... the first real digital alternative to film Photo inveterate idealists is ....

So since I have to say that the digital market does in the last months really has alternative.

If the coming models (EOS 1) are really as fast as is rumored - I will pull the bill synonymous strongly considered.

But from Economic and time constraints, I would then focus on digital.

At the moment I can not stop the good work with what I have and the quality need to hide from any digital cams.

Let's wait times s.was comes in the next 12 to 18 months on the market.

A Leica M9 but will probably not come with in my collection ;-)
Much too expensive and cumbersome to work ;-)

MfG
B. DeKid

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Antwort von edgar:

"B. DeKid" wrote: So although I'm only a Voigtlander Bessa R2 and just 1 and Eos Canon Eos 1V and a EOS 400 plus another 2 Mamiya Cams (645 and RB67) and ne Miu Olympus 1030 SW. (This is the Cams and I have in the main application, but have yet nen few others, the list fills an entire wardrobe for me and all are Functionally)

In addition any quantity of lentils different providers.

I can not understand the Comparison.

A Bessa or Leica M out of me is in no way better than the Canon or Mamiya Cams.

The Bessa Vortteil s.der are repays the optics .... but with the Leica or Zeiss lenses, I get equivalent photos.

If that is really a question of faith.

I prefer to clear her handling of the EOS 1, it cams in combination with L IS lenses.

For landscapes and macro I prefer manual Leica and Zeiss lenses (in Macro Bellows)

I do usually take pictures with Kodak Elite Chrome Pro DIA to 100 ISO

Rarely 200s or 400s (for sports AAufnahmen in the forest for example)

I do scan all the images with a large transmitted light scanner of Canon and Agfa did little old table scanners nen but no longer counts against the Canon.

Print tu nem me with HP 130nr Plotter, or on Hahnemühle Ilford.

I can only say that there really ne ala Leica Camera or Voigt countries, a nostalgic product is aufkeinen and makes the case better images than the SLR's.

It's just once is fun little Bessa use or to pose less "but actually photographed in the sense that it is operated - the comb is no longer in my mind - this you are really too slow.

Also I have a lot to work with flash equipment as are the canons of handling much better.

.................................................. .....

Conclusion - the test is given here is a pure fanboy marketing Preformance and I would never get to buy a Leica.

MAC vs PC is like at all a question of users and the final result ... only intressiert the paying customers.

In my eyes, you have to build with all the cameras "see Picture / - who is not able to paint with light and ideas can have the best camera and it still makes only shit pictures ;-)

MfG
B. DeKid

PS: bite needs to edit images today anyway to get out of the crowd ;-)!!!


Your views, I can share but why are you photographing the analog and (on behalf of customers so I read it out ...)?
Is that so desired by the customer or your personal preference?

I am mitlerweile completely switched to digital.
At that time I made a lot of portrait and product photography with medium format and large format cameras. Then, of course, synonymous scanned and processed, if it was needed.
Everything I did then in medium format, erledige today with the 5D Mark II and am faster and more flexible than with any MF camera!
Clearly, a Großformatdia (9x12 and larger) on a light table is a feast for the eyes and also a Trommelscan by the selfsame, the skin around a optical. Synonymous but the file sizes were much ...
If necessary, then it's with a borrowed camera and professional digital back, and for landscapes and architecture, I can Stillimage synonymous one composed of several frames of the 5DM2 and therefore get an insanely high resolution state - when you need it.
What keeps you still in the analog photography? (sincere interest!)

For me, the time savings and the cost is clear for the digital way of working ...

Ok, back Relating to:

Ken Rockwell can be like - but you do not! :)
I find his "tests" more amusing than informative ...

Gruß Edgar

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

@ Edgar

One of my honest answer to your question:

I can not afford not digital!

I dance with my 31 years to so many weddings I have just got the last 5 years my own house and paid off as the jokes .... I actually as much money as possible s.allen corners useful spare.

I dream of the ego with my "team" in the coming years even more successful contracts erledige and synonymous with the time on "Digital and HD can change (economic aspects) ... I hope that for me and my people really .... but until then gibts halt just what I imagined, and in light of all the necessary get!


If I would only bet on the horse photos then I would my money in the latest synonymous with Hasselblad, Phase One stuck ...... But photos and contracts concerning whether to make photos with me just 15% of the year.

Even if Stillimage STECKENPFERD MY ... I can not make the moment.

Perhaps that means one or the other, but I would like to continue to work so that WE all deserve it well.

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Many of my tips are therefore not considered umbedingt more contemporary, but I always say

What was good 5 years ago was convinced today, -.)

MfG
B. DeKid

Just as a thought - many people today want to have growing plants Tribal in the clip - that was 3 years ago in the world of FX forums ne New kitchen - but can sell it now anyway, the only really ;-)

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