Frage von Piers:
Since so many here at the Forum on "Cinema Look / DOF ', myself included, are very interested, I wanted to describe my impressions of three-times weekend. I'm standing right in front of decision: 7D as a B-Kam, or at least 35mm adapter?
As a proud owner of an EX-1 I see myself more and more with the "problem faced cinema look". First, unsuspecting customers are asking more and more after this descriptor, on the other hand, I'm an old TV Video Fuzzi himself fascinated.
So I borrowed time for a production-NEN Letus Ultimate adapter with Nikon Mount, Redrock Micro-Rod Support + buttstock and Redrock Mattebox, at times the stuff to tinker s.meine EX. In addition, there NEN suitcase full of Nikon / Nikkor primes (; 24,35,55,85 mm)
Unfortunately, I can post any videos of the recordings, but I? This time around the primary handling of the setup.
Since the adapter was screwed, the rest went relatively quickly. Hand Grips turn, draufgesteckt Follow Focus and Matte Box and screwed. Done was the Monster-EX-1. Somehow made the face of the customer, after he saw me with the impression of the mill "Ok, now I know what I pay for." The day before, when I was only with the EX-1 have rotated, he looked more surprised if the size (; tiny?) From the camera.
Ok, ok. The setup was done. Saw a great hammer. Then the first sobering: all this shit was hard!
Well, that is only partly true. It was not really hard, it was balanced just incredible shit, just a s.Picture see where I have the mill on the shoulder. The whole system is so top-heavy uuuunglaublich that one for yourself as an experienced cameraman barely longer than 60-90sec creates the setup to hold.
In addition too, that is completely useless by the zoom on the adapter / ground glass of the steady-shot mode the camera. We see any slight trembling and twitching. And I tell you, that comes faster than you is dear!
Then nd. Knowledge: space-saving recording to the SxS cards is not. It is not without a hand of taking away the brains and to press the Record button. The system is so shaky on his shoulder and taking away one hand requires planning and makes it slow. The best one presses the button before it lifts the setup and can easily pass through.
Then of course there is the expected mega-limitation. Although I produce an image film, were in demand at this spin my skills as an EB-cameraman. So with nothing planned Shots draufhalten but and record. But put a time for speaking such a shaky setup quickly the sharpness s.follow focus. Nix da! The focus range for example the 35mm limited as pronounced as it is without extremely Assi / Focus Puller not learn much. Through my designs, I was not always possible, the right (and sharp) distance away from or set on capturing the reach, so had to keep one hand on the Focus. Then it was almost impossible to keep the rig. So, look, well, I could have, but a clean setting without extreme tremor was impossible.
So there was only one: shoulder support s.and the setup directly on the tripod. Now comes the weight of the camera but again the weight of the tripod. Although I have the Manfrotto Carbon set, you wear the camera is not just fast times of A to B. So I was actually restricted to my usual rotation process. Then there is still added the fixed focal length. In normal everyday life is turning, the EX-1 Optics ne real relief; framing does not fit? Ok, then time just zooms quickly. Fixed focal length = nix zoom. Ans motif are struggling, or so turn on where you sit straight. I must honestly admit that I underestimated total!
After some time I have rotated with the 85mm, since I do not sooo close to the motive was, I wanted to "move very quickly" on which wide-angle. But you guess what? Is quick not here. Mattebox folded. Lens down old, new on it. It takes simple. Then I realized that my 24mm in principle the same archipelago enemy
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Nice Report.
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If you do not want the 7D tapping via HDMI and only film'd like to use the rich synonymous 550D.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Piers:
If you do not want the 7D tapping via HDMI and only film'd like to use the rich synonymous 550D. My test scenario is to 7D, which I might as qualitatively superior to pit against the Letus Ultimate. 7D wins in terms of handling, usability, operability and especially usability, and only then comes the Comparison to 550D.
And as I know, every Kam their advantages and their disadvantage and has, I'm as smart as before ;-)
Antwort von B.DeKid:
From handling her course adapter is not to compare with a VDSLR. (Also as far as the factor swallow light)
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Bzgl handling vs 7D. 550D little difference (with battery grips)
clearly the 7D is slightly better (in my s.Rig) hand almost unimportant.
7D clear advantage of HDMI capture ... munierte the "fuzziness" (compared to the 550D), I can not really move to full.
to achieve the benefit of both 5D Mark II to the crop factor no real Vingetten or distortion.
All in all, even with the 550D you get for little money a really nice toy!
Everything related to the suitability of that film Cams - in the photos is something else again. (High ISO is also ne another story)
But I would rejoice over a lens of experience report.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Piers:
From handling her course adapter is not to compare with a VDSLR. (Also as far as the factor swallow light)
Well, that may be true in the positive and negative. Very probably the VDSLR easier and thereby moving one. But without them ever tested me a few problems fall directly on a nerve VDSLR:
- Display is solid, not tilted and swiveled
-Additional equipment must be purchased again, external Micro, second rig, second Mattebox
Scheiss-recording codec
-No digital tools such as the EX-1 peaking that displays via the display overlay the exact point of focus / area, or my beloved Zebra.
-No live control via headset during sound
-Low-light is not a factor for me rather, I work with light,-P
Since I tend to work but in the environment of the EB-use, and much Run'n'Gun hardly scenic, it is ne VDSLR with me have been difficult.
Wahnwitzigerweise but many customers want these morons movies look and I need to think about how I can do that.
But I would rejoice over a lens of experience report. Jo, I will then post ;-)
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Since I tend to work but in the environment of the EB-use, and much Run'n'Gun hardly scenic, it is ne VDSLR with me have been difficult.
Wahnwitzigerweise but many customers want these morons movies look and I need to think about how I can do that.
Then maybe use software to generate the look??
Comb you like the idea ever?
So that I could ever work, I found the tip!
http://www.imagineersystems.com/products/motor/
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Axel:
But without them ever tested me a few problems fall directly on a nerve VDSLR:
- Display is solid, not tilted and swiveled That is irrelevant. Answer why, in the next step.
-Additional equipment must be purchased again, external Micro, second rig, second Mattebox There is a minimal rig with shoulder rest with counterweight, and with a grip right angle, so that the display of the camera is centered in front of your eye. One normal-sized human arms are long enough to hold the lens directly to operate without follow-Focus. Funzt almost better with the slightly lighter 550D. The fully built unergonomic EX-1 can not be so easy to shoulder ".
The second rig variant requires an HD-Field Monitor, and in fact, the 7D, as only transmits an HD picture during the recording. Not very smart, but handier than the EX-1 plus plus Letus rig even once.
Scheiss-recording codec You mean certainly XDCAM EX. Or do you mean, H.264 would be too bad cut directly. This is true, but it is qualitatively superior to the squeeze-HDV EX.
-No digital tools such as the EX-1 peaking that displays via the display overlay the exact point of focus / area, or my beloved Zebra. One of Marshall Field Monitor can be synonymous Chesapeake blue.
-No live control via headset during sound I would certainly use the sound of a DSLR for reference only, but my colleague used the ME-66 with 30 cm long XLR Klinkendapter shoe on the Accessory. What can you say? Go. There are so still that XLR adapter boxes, on which would then anything is possible. But here in my opinion the time has come to include the sound external. Let the all-in-one solution to the EB-cucumber and Consumercams behind.
-Low-light is not a factor for me rather, I work with light,-P Then I'll give you all five.
Since I tend to work but in the environment of the EB-use, and much Run'n'Gun hardly scenic, it is ne VDSLR with me have been difficult. Run'n'Gun and light setting per se are two methods. Not that you could not combine them. I would say that DSLR would be the first choice for scenic work. We have the EX-3 with Letus, unwieldy monster. The slowness carries over in a positive (calm camera movements) and negative (more static camera work). On your pictures, you can sense the anguish so synonymous. The man is simply not designed for the longer holding of such a craft frame. Why are resourceful camera manufacturers (eg Arri) built decades ago movie cameras from her are lighter weight and smaller synonymous ;-)))
Conclusion: A pail is a good thing. The exes are in video-Henkel men are very mature and fun, perfect for all kinds of reports with a Letus front is from an operational Hunderüden a female to be made. Something God has forbidden.
A DSLR is not made to shoot videos with it. From the hand of the matter is nothing. make the effort, a worse shoulder mounted camcorder it is not very high. With practice is one of the EX-rig from playing, synonymous quality, admittedly somewhat less for EB.
Antwort von Piers:
Then maybe use software to generate the look??
Comb you like the idea ever?
So that I could ever work, I found the tip!
http://www.imagineersystems.com/products/motor/
MfG
B. DeKid Without knowing the software now, but I am no friend of the over-winged word: "Let's fix it in the post.
Either I turn with no less depth of field, or level. Subsequently add me too much effort and is certainly not synonymous will look nearly as clean as when one turns the outset of it. Nevertheless, thx for the info
@ Axel
Thanks for the tips, but I can see, it does not stay with the purchase of the 7D. I intended to give at least Perepherie again from as much as for those that came when I skipped the times in the head, then I'm finally at around 2500-3000 Euronen.
Scheiss cinema look,-P
Antwort von Bertholt4:
Hi Piers, I have rotated 2008 in Japan for 3 weeks with a HVX + 35mm adapter SGpro a documentary. Synonymous was very difficult, but you can get used s.alles (especially in Japan, the trains are so full, because you can simply let the camera float ";)).
From her picture it has totally paid off then, but I've missed through the cumbersome definitely synonymous a few shots. In the evening I had done was blatantly - declined in the period 7 pounds ...
Here is a small trailer: http://vimeo.com/2276295
Right now, I turn back to Japan, again a synonymous DOK film, this time with the - you three guesses - 7D.
It's simply much more fun and it's nice unremarkable. We are a Zweimannteam and have no trouble. The only annoying flicker and synchronize is - for cheap Euchtstoffröhren - I have to every time to 1 / 40 shutter - yet you can still see something Geflicker.
My clear Empfehleung: 7D!
