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Frage von amlug:


Hello everybody,

Lutz Dieckmann here had initiated the forum an interesting thread, how many amateurs can shoot a large extent in their artificial lighting in mind. That it has in large part with the very high prices for professional lighting equipment to do was quickly evident.

Nevertheless, the quiet eavesdropping has raised there and Lutz's instructive tutorial relating to the interest for me to address this matter again. I wonder: is there really nothing between the Bauleuchten and Profilichtsets the four-digit levels?

It indeed must not be equal to three high-performance lighting - but what could be for example, with a budget of, say, reach $ 500? There are (; secret) tips for the best lighting, with interiors which could put some often takes center stage - and more effective than the just-together construction lights and desk lamps, but financially the nobudget area appropriate?

I'd appreciate tips!

Regards
Amlug

(; PS Of course, it would be experienced in case of doubt, if only useful to know that such a request on my part hardly seems realistic ...)

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Antwort von Axel:

"Amlug" wrote: There are (; secret) tips for the best lighting, with interiors which could put some often takes center stage - and more effective than the just-together construction lights and desk lamps, but financially the nobudget area appropriate?

Baustrahler make bold bright window scatter strongly directed (> dull, aka> reflectors) to help offset the shadow. Incandescent looks very nice from (; pears!) (China balls, paper lamps) are as simple> Softboxes,> PAR (lamps; ebay) are extremely cheap and may miss a lot more than construction lights.

There is no light, you can not use. Of course, one could recommend a very good things. This

Here sowas which, for Dranklemmen.

That does not look all so mad from professional and exciting, but it can work a bit more comfortable. The synonymous you keep when you once a few suitcases full of light or Arris Bebops.

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Antwort von Markus_Krippner:

Dedolight for the poor:

Overhead Projector

So you can easily bring light into every conceivable shape. By just placing selbstgeschnittenen of paper masks or paper. Interestingly wirds synonymous with perforated plates, eg, large-meshed fabrics, Farbfolienstückchen, structural glass, water droplets ...

And you can even make sharp or blurred - quite easily.
Will be dimmed by launch of ND filters.

One must be careful only a bisserl that the projection does not then look for "overhead projector" - you should make this sharp rectangular edge as unrecognizable.

At ebay gibts occasionally projectors with 575er HMI drin ... little money to be genuine. I've paid for my 575er no 100.


markus ... :-)

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

In fact synonymous nem XVGA panel can build a projector from the OverhaedProjektoren ... I mean now ;-)
Also you can as well be printed on Foil s.Krasse templates graffiti wall formations whose shapes projektzieren .... then spray it on.
Since this would go against the wall, standing optical loss.


The Kuehlergeraeusch and the lamp costs but there's talk ......

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For 500 euros I would buy ...


First take a large aluminum suitcase where everything would easily fit!

Then something like this was ...

- 3 gooseneck lamps for desks with brackets
- 3 Bauscheinwerfer
- 3 Led panels 60stk max 120Stk kelvin at 3400 White
- 3 power strips with security
- 3 times VerlängerrungsKabel of 10 m
- 3 SUNBOUNCE to 60 or 80 cm

For divided suitcase with chipboard, glued to the wood ne delicate situation .... the foam you get quite a gift.
And then clean with the stuff ...

If there is money left

... then small frame HolzLättchen with color and light through casual crafts film are interesting - for eg the LED lights in any case, since these are not hot .... I find simple and cheap and easy over all with out dragging bar ;-)
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For 500 Euros you can buy the first time any amount of light toys that bring in the "home" use only once a better solution.

Lighting costs no preference whether Stillimage or film s.2500, - Euro up per set up
And before you buy something only a flexible basis so that what has to play, I think. You have no flash or multi-facility Arri s.Generator have s.Start for his first OutDoor shooting to get good pictures.

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Among us - OutDoor ... because when you shoot enough to make 3 Speedlight flashes - the crow's feet on a table, tripod adapter, aka be attached to a reflector and flashing .... you've got the evening sun sinking in almost ended, and baggage of having 10Kilo quickly spot the shooting in the "box". Since no generator or battery Riessen aka flash equipment of war troubles.
Do we not all erstmal .... glued to a good flashlight, could conjure up even for the decisive moments of a difference.

Using light to play one of my Meihnung after, so it is to say the "oil paint" the Stillimage or videographers dar.

So what can be experimented here this stuff is here.

What I would recommend, however, are seen in the long run to invest in a good suitcase or even pockets.

Thus, once synonymous with stuff needs to be made to air travel, and especially since a Camera "Package" synonymous baggage or hand luggage should be just packed.
Thus one can get stress free his real hobby / career site by.


MfG
B. DeKid

PS: Tip puts best courses, images from ground level - a wool sock in which a rubber balloon filled with sand enough. It often requires little more out of his Equitment fetch.,-P
And this "little" does not cost much, but at least it served its purpose ;-)

** Edit ... I react to light issues always have a bissel krass, because here you have to really play much, da gibts only experience and personal taste / style, which one would now represent just once .... there should be no price or brand dictatorship Ideas have a s.seinen prevent - is therefore my statement on the issue **

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Antwort von amlug:

Hey, thanks for the detailed proposals s.alle!

Quote: - 3 gooseneck lamps for desks with brackets
Do you think that the (; professional?) Music sector, how to find them on Google's first line, or simply clamp lamps for domestic use? Many are with LED, otherwise usually has more than 5-10W (-not-LED, mE) to which is not very much, right?
Quote: - 3 Led panels 60stk max 120Stk kelvin at 3400 White
That would be area lights?
Quote: - 3 SUNBOUNCE to 60 or 80 cm
Did you specifically with this company? Or just reflectors, eg it has recommended Axel? I've been in photography the way, synonymous with real business results from aluminum foil glued-made foam boards ;-)
Quote: PS: Tip puts best courses, images from ground level - a wool sock in which a rubber balloon filled with sand enough.
Interesting idea, thanks. According to a suitcase, I'll look around synonymous times.

@ Markus_Krippner: If overhead always give such noises of how I knew of my former school, that would be probably something for silent films ... ;-)
@ Axel: PAR lights seems to be different, here are more with the surface effect, or spotlights suitable? How many watts would be recommended for medium sized spaces?

mfg Amlug

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Antwort von Axel:

"Gooseneck": If there were to of me and recommended for about 50 years proven Rowi terminals to 500W synonymous with Gooseneck (; and for that price), that would naturally great. These things are synonymous, but as class so that they can safely buy. Three theoretical fit (in a supermarket bag, even the small). The simple swapping of different bulbs in the e-27er Screw everything has an energy surface for portraits, megahelles Füllicht, spots. (The gauze Page of the recommended reflector;'s just cheap, there's synonymous to or greater than (less than) highly diffused light, but this purpose), better known as frost slide. The reflector is folded up only the size of a pizza and still fits in your pocket. Alubespannte Styroplatte is equal to the effect of ago, but it lacks the three remaining "sides" and secondly, it is bulky. The small tripods, while it would rausragen up and out of pocket, but the weight of her's would be synonymous to go yet. What is missing? Torklappen to limit the light cone? No problem! Black Wrap real art, and the despicable Hellmachen no extra charge). What is missing?

Well, what is missing to be honest, is the right spot. The old slide of my family did not have a noisy fan. Unfortunately, the lamp is no longer replenish. A compromise is
such a Taps
How to use a spot? The opposite of diffuse area lighting. A motif directly (; front, side spotlight, of) back. Makes it more likely not permanently, but for certain situations, it should have. Watt? You would need for video really a very strong light. The option to work, with luxuriously heavy to light, but allows one to use it from a distance, that is an advantage. If you have a medium sized room, however the option to use weaker light (; developed synonymous less heat), which is not wrong synonymous.


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Antwort von amlug:

I think for a start I'll get me two of the terminals and the recommended Rowi-par housing to include tripods, reflectors and lights. Then I can schonmal experimenting with classic three-point lighting, and purchase an additional as needed.

Fixtures this: so there are light bulbs, halogen lamps and LEDs, right? What is (recommended for beginning;) with respect to possible universal usability?

On that Page gibts for Rowis only a 500W lamp for direct lighting designed to light, but for illuminating the reflector? Is that a light bulb and a halogen (; nowhere is right there)?

I would then (, relative to the performance of incandescent bulbs, as far as reproducibility) can probably 1x 500W and 2x 200W. The latter I could buy from Thomann with equal, if I already the Par-order case. Which lamp (; Type / Output) is recommended for par to?

(; Ifs still needs to be brighter, I still synonymous (an old photo-1000W lamp, fanless )...)

Where and and continue to thank you!
mfg Amlug

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Antwort von amlug:

I would again point out the thread to make ;-)

Without wanting to be pushy, it would be really nice if I would be again in the final questions to help someone, so then I could then address the order.

Thank you!

mfg Amlug

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