Frage von Dennis B.:
Hello,
I would like something with the technology of live recordings inform.
1. Which cameras are common for live recordings to recommend if you are not more than 2000 ¬ per Camera would like to spend?
2. If we now complete the purchase of this equipment would be, one should interpret anything on HD or DV to stay?
3. Where can I find the whole Euipment on the Internet? So, picture mixer, BNC cable, special monitors, etc.
Antwort von Markus:
1. Which cameras are common for live recordings to recommend if you are not more than 2000 ¬ per Camera would like to spend? Hello Dennis,
basically can use any video camera or camcorder take everyone who has the required video - and possibly audio outputs. In the worst case it would be a composite connection to virtually any device.
¬ 2,000 per schonmal Camera are not bad. Because I would by models with 3CCD and Y / C output look, if it comes to standard definition. High-resolution camcorder should have a component output, which offers the high-resolution video via Picture Multicore (approximately ¬ 6 per meter plus cable drum) can lead to Directing.
2. If we now complete the purchase of this equipment would be, one should interpret anything on HD or DV to stay? That depends on whether you are in default - (SD) or High Definition (HD) or want to produce them. HD is caused by elaborate video cable and matching image mixer according costly.
3. Where can I find the whole Euipment on the Internet? So, picture mixer, BNC cable, special monitors, etc. System vendors may provide the necessary equipment together, but we are moving at 2,000 ¬ per camcorder for a long time in the consumer area - with the Specials for live productions. Not every system is ready or has enough sense for the consumer field suitable package.
A list of equipment needed to find synonymous in this discussion:
Antwort von robbie:
And the picture mixer and the cable probably the larger chunks are.
HD - picture mixer with component inputs available at the moment of the V440 Edirol by about 14,000. Whether the Datavideo 1000 components I know now not to think but he has only SDI / HDSDI.
Let's say roughly 10,000.
A * proper * Live Production under 3, there are not cameras, so this is the minimum.
So about 6000 times.
This requires you have a bunch of cable sufficient to meet all eventualities s.Anfang to be prepared at least 100 meters per Camera in various denominations.
So 6 * 100 * 4, the quantity discount is roughly the price of the drums, that is equal to 2400 times.
Sunday monitors cameras without benefit you warm enough.
4x SD 1x HD. Let's say, very generous calculated 4000th
so super, as the whole fun synonymous still be somewhere. A Maz needed.
When it was cheaper to be HDV.
Live gibts synonymous over 60min, therefore he must accept large cassettes.
eg da: HVR-M25E, with discount 4000th
This is times the standard equipment * *. However, the good sound synonymous to yes.
Minimum Equipment: 1000, precisely in order to control and the existing facility with live mix.
So where are we now then?
27,400 when my brain is not deceptive.
missing only the more orders;)
Antwort von megalutzi:
Hello,
there is one times a day and employs otherwise everything is already said. Previous speakers have really done a good job, because there is not much to add.
So therefore:
Whether you want to produce HD must know yourself. It may be that it stop is desired.
For live broadcasts on the Internet or on canvas ne SD is most adequate. When recordings would be a slightly better quality never bad.
But equally so soooo much more output?
I will stay initially in SD. Sometime I first HD cameras on order. Only then, at some point the mixer and the cable. As I wait synonymous nor from what it is for new equipment is supplied.
Actually, I want Triaxsysteme with HD-SDI of the CCU. This is better than component video transmission over multi-core. Except that such a Kamerazug probably cost a bit too much ;-)
Antwort von Duracell:
Right. If you already have equipment has been left in SD.
Should I buy now, I would probably put on HD.
In live - the area is HD-SDI seemingly cheaper anyway! as components. It starts with the cables. But interestingly, even the mixer. When the cameras naja. MAZ And then we must not even talk.
Ne, and I were still little, until I get my truck hab ... ;)
Antwort von Duracell:
Hello,
I have about an issue synonymous times.
Where are the Internet on image mixer to buy vorallem HD capable, I think not.
what does it all with HD from mixers, there is so synonymous different sub-formats, HDV, DVCProHD and so you can mix all the signals, via HD-SDI or HD-like functioning live mixes?
Antwort von PowerMac:
HD-mixers are almost always HD-SDI or analog component video in HD mix. HD-SDI is a separate transmission, which transmits uncompressed HD. That has nothing to do with DVCProHD or HDV to do, what video formats are.
Antwort von Markus:
Where are the Internet on image mixer to buy vorallem HD capable, I think not. HD-capable picture mixer are preferably taken by providers of professional video technology. The best vereinbarst you make an appointment with a system provider and your confidence so you can advise. For purchase prices beyond the 10 n.sollte you to good advice and not do a (free) coffee for you should there be synonymous. ;-)
Antwort von wimaria:
Hello,
I had to synonymous nochmlal some questions:
1. What do you think generally of the Edirol V440 HD?
2. I'm not even with the whole "Tally-art" familiar, how does it work? The mixer has been presented with a tally output, but how come now to the signal from the 4 cameras? Must be because you have a spezeillen controller to buy? How to connect the camera to s.jede?
3. Where are the cables? The mixer has a Connections R (PR) B (PB) G (Y) and H / V, but if I as "a best Camera XH A1 wants, these ports do not have, what do I do then, how does something?
Antwort von megalutzi:
Hello,
- So I especially like Edirol not. But it will work. Who wants to work should do it.
- Tally outputs are most open collector switches. These outputs are switching over Sub-D Male and then output to the CCU `s where the cameras.
Since you have not, thee is only one solution left Bastel. Incidentally, I have so synonymous with my AG-MX70 in use.
As I Tallys large LED `s, on the extra cable to be cameras. Small power supply and the circuit from the mixer and ready.
- The inputs are components of the mixer inputs. Any good camera delivers them. Come now, of course synonymous See above HD or SD.
But your question that you're not just an engineer, and the DIY cables to "swear" are (sorry, I could not resist). In this case: Please let the finger like this and let someone do that is so informed.
Antwort von marginal:
Hello Lutz,
Of course I'm not a professional, I will determine for me now more than ¬ 10,000 to buy a mixer if I am not at all familiar, I would just like to inform me how it blends with HD Live looks, whether at some point as far as I am and have enough money is another question.
I have another question to your own design, so you have a small LED (s.der camera attached) by a commercially available power associated with the Directing, of where she gets electricity.
But how do you then just exactly when to shine when they are "on-air" is? How did you hear them with the AG-MX70 connected?
Other questions:
Let the XH A1, it has an AV port and a component cable (RGB outputs).
Now I associate these connections via appropriate BNC adapter with 3 each of these cables
http://www.thomann.de/de/sommercable_focusline_ms_schwarz.htm. According to the 50m then Directing, where the 3 cable s.Mischer together. I now here the best possible HD quality, or what should be done differently?
On Edirol mixers are still synonymous connections for the horizontal and vertical, these are absolutely necessary, or is RGB?
Which HD-mixers are still in the price range under ¬ 20,000?
Thank you
Antwort von robbie:
As already said, the tally - Output of the mixer, so to speak, has an output for each camera. Is the camera on the air, the relay is closed and the camera is off, then the relay is synonymous open. You can now of course, not the voltage of the LED to conduct, but simply tinker with an electronic solution that detects whether or not the mixer - open relay or is, and exactly the same with a stronger relay makes. Do is now the operating voltage for the LED has stopped. Advantage s.der Case:
You can get these at any electronics such as camera directly install. With a Battery, or network, or via the camera supplier.
Direction Mixer constantly send you a low-voltage switchgear. for example, 5V. On mixers come now (say to think) that permanently at 5V. Once the camera is on-air, come back to this 5V Camera back. Otherwise not. The electronics detect "aaah, there comes a signal", and it turns the relay. BING, the LED lights.
You can alternatively, the Tally - Signal I think about a synonymous of Intercom Data-Video run.
Apropos intercom!. Another, not to despise the whole part s.der Live - the story!
For Mixers:
Edirol is synonymous not my favorite. naja. Kamma nix machen.
Yes, thee of the described method for this camera model is certainly one of the best. But certainly not THE best.
See the keywords HD-SDI and HD-SDI - Mixer.
Antwort von megalutzi:
Hello,
You can now of course, not the voltage of the LED to conduct ... But! The relay of the mixer (at least on my mixer) can max 53VDC and 50mA max. That's enough for a thick LED. I am (I think) at 5V.
So the mixer works like a switch, the circuit closes and the LED, the LED then with the little power that it needs to shine.
Incidentally, I do not "normal" power to the camera. Thus a thick cross-section so I do not. With a video - or Tonkabel completely.
So the connector on the three components is in order. Have 3 Lines of holding the camera to the mixer. For HD-SDI reaches one.
Robbie've written. An intercom to the camera is extremely important!
One problem still have. How can you monitor what the cameras deliver picture. To do this you need to have monitors in Directing, Camera s.besten per one. Now it will be difficult. You can of course an HD monitor purchase, the component signals from the camera through s.den mixer and then connect. However, such monitors rarely synonymous and therefore very expensive. Or you can do your mailing, etc. at. Or you put another cable to the camera and transmit an SD signal to a normal monitor.
All that will be synonymous again neatly cost.
Therefore, HD is based on little fun, because not all necessary components are present, one in the SD world often does. Video cameras at reasonable distribution. Monitoring and synonymous Afzeichnung. Everything still not quite mature.
Spare a little and you create an HD OB van for 50-100 million. (Not meant seriously).
Antwort von marginal:
If I were in my case with the XH A1 stick, HD-SDI is not possible, right?
There is no lower than 5000 ¬ with Camera HD-SDI connection.
Since we are back to the question of HD or SD:
How long will a SD live equipment that can now buy more or less up to date and s.wann so that you can no longer start?
How long will it be about time to get the first HD-misc auhc already gets under 3000 ¬?
What about from the moment it is still in the near future high-resolution format than 1920x 1080, ie in the consumer area?
It is just not a question of money, I would just like to know how you would decide, ie whether it would take HD, despite the uncertain future, the circumstances of the few s.HD equipment selection, etc., or whether you think if you Now an SD equipment buys that in 10 years is still too gebruachen.
Antwort von robbie:
Ok, then your mixer apparently. Some mixers are synonymous in the instruction manual that is purely there is a switching signal to provide an external electronics and to ourselves, no voltage> 5V drauf lay * g *
Jap, Intercom, very important.
For mixers and relating to monitoring:
I am fascinated by the Datavideo 1000th
Datasheet: http://www.datavideo.info/specs/se1000.pdf
Since I can with 6x (HD) SDI pure, and he has 6 independent format converter is installed, ie I can provide any HD-SDI channel on a normal Composite - monitor for preview.
And with just under 7k ¬ synonymous he is not really expensive!
Antwort von megalutzi:
Hello,
So the video data is a really nice part. They have absolutely beautiful things. Mobile directing are absolutely out.
What bothers me, but still propagated in these policies (but is synonymous with me so), I can not access the camera parameters. But it's a difference, whether with normal cameras are used (the XH-A1 in this case belongs to) or whether a proper CCU with RCP in the Directing has the colors and panels properly set.
I would therefore only in such a system, rather than in HD to invest.
Now of course, is synonymous to what the whole issue:
Will it be live? (eg on canvas / Beamer or live stream)
then it will go only so, but since it does not really need HD, because the live stream of the bottleneck is somewhere else and it is difficult Resolutions on PAL stream can somehow reasonable.
With screens: In the meantime there are a couple of HD projectors, but usually you do not have the conditions where there is a HD projection needs.
If it does not live to be, then it offers to record in HD and the whole in the post cutting.
It is synonymous still take a while to HD in the audience has arrived. Only now are so slow BlueRay and HD-DVD in the shops.
So: If it must be live, I would stay in SD and HD cameras with recording, so you can still do HD editing in the post make.
The market is not bigger, but for at least 5 years are still in SD. What occurred in the meantime is doing is still very questionable. About 1920x1080 wirds synonymous in 10 years do not go (except for Digital Cinema).
There are, incidentally Converter Component to HD-SDI or synonymous HDMI to HD-SDI.
If everything is not a question of money:
Proper camera trains with CCU, Triax, pumps and what else dazugehrt. Ne fette HD-SDI matrix and this one is already at several million ¬. Then we would be almost at the said HD OB van which is in D so far maybe 5 pieces there.
Antwort von Markus:
How long will a SD live equipment that can now buy more or less up to date and s.wann so that you can no longer start? Questions like these can actually always subsequently answered. I'm maybe in a few years back to times. ;-)
