Frage von Sammy:
Hello!
possess Sonydcr-HC90E currently have one and want a good lowlight camcorders with which I can change drehn well in a discotheque (laser, light and strobes should not damage the sensor) ..
what you can do with as emphelen?
sony pd 150?
sony pd 170?
sony vx 200?
sony vx 2100?
canon xl1?
Canon XL1S?
canon xl2?
... ?
Thank you!
lg sammy
Antwort von Jan:
Hello DJ? Sammy
Sonywerden for most users the most current model VX 2100 or the pro version PD 170 (XLR connections are needed at the Disco? Möglichweise if only because many high-quality audio equipment have XLR connectors)
At Canon, I would not be the new XL 2, but the old models suggest since you despite your good 16 / 9 function but with the old models in lowlight more noise.
LG
January
Antwort von glaser2:
So the price here schonmal fall xl2 + the PD170 path ..
which has properties edn best low light ..
VX2100 one or Canon XL1S?
And the xlr connections were already of benefit ...
thanks jan!
lg
Antwort von SammyGray:
so I'm registered now ^ ^
Antwort von Jan:
Hi,
naja order in the "Low Light" get that Optimal (Up to 5000 ¬, without much shoulder device) would probably go for the majority VX 2100 (yes you can correct me).
The XL 1 or the VX 2100 both have 3x 1 / 3 "CCD 's. The Canon ever with 800,000 pixels, which Sonyca 500,000 (not exactly know it in my head)
So on the same size CCD surface has almost always in poor light conditions the camera with the less (but larger pixels), the advantage of better picture magic. The pixels will be synonymous with the Canon "closer" which results in less light, more noise.
Even the general focusing on less light Sonymeist currently rules better than most "other" at least in the consumer class.
But there are synonymous "surprising" results as of wheat. He has the VX and the FX1 HDV Cam and was very impressed of the quality of the Low Light FX 1 compared with the VX.
Synonymous, I had a few weeks ago, the FX 1 in hand, of course (tripod) at naja nicht so toll-lit great room and was not very enthusiastic of you. But it was only a short test, wheat, but it has been a long time to be more precise shooting.
The XL 2, I will not go bad as you make a lot more options compared to the XL 1 / s has. As yet, the 25 Progressive eg recording, the Record and Free Run SMPTE time code, or the "normal" XL 20x lens supplied with the fluorite lens system (this lens was developed as the first of Canon 1969, and will significantly improve the picture quality), the XL 1 / s is usually with the "simple" 16x Xl delivered.
Even with "lack of money" is the good old XM 2 zb MA 300 XLR adapter with no bad choice.
But each of these will be an improvement on HC 90th
There are still to be determined for a few opinions of other users or more owners.
LG
January
Antwort von Markus:
Hello Sammy,
have the best reserves in the Schwachlichtbereich the VX2100 and the PD170. The latter has two XLR connections for line-and microphone signals, and a switchable phantom power. The VX2100 has a consumer version in use in the consumer area, the microphone input in the form of an unbalanced 3.5 mm stereo jack.
If you do not want to give up standard feature XLR and the PD170 to buy is too expensive, you could have a synonymous - if an order for it is there - contact s.einen lender.
In the case of the VX2100 may be of interest:
->
XLR s.Klinke
Antwort von jens:
In the case of the VX2100 may be of interest:
-> XLR s.Klinke Or
the like. Kann ich nur empfehlen!
Jens
Antwort von Markus:
If already a BeachTek adapter, then I'd rather take one with phantom power. The available on eBay
Antwort von SammyGray:
Thanks for the help!
still a question I had ..
how it looks with an xl1 from?
Antwort von Jan:
With the XL 1 and the newer S?
The XL 1 S would see a lot just behind the Sony's, synonymous because the stabilizer is praised even more than that of the almost "unbeatable" of Sony. The Wechselbjektivüberlegung is not None. It is synonymous but not quite handy.
Comparison XL 1 - M 1 P gibts many little things in the device, such as eg the revised stability and many advanced manual settings.
LG
January
Antwort von WeiZen:
But there are synonymous "surprising" results as of wheat. He has the VX and the FX1 HDV Cam and was very impressed of the quality of the Low Light FX 1 compared with the VX.
Synonymous, I had a few weeks ago, the FX 1 in hand, of course (tripod) at naja nicht so toll-lit great room and was not very enthusiastic of you. But it was only a short test, wheat, but it has been a long time to be more precise films.
Moin,
if it is already mentioned:
One must consider the distinction. At full gain the Picture of the VX brighter than that of the FX1, but it is brighter than the reality, and rushing it, depending on the brightness. Certainly, it hisses at more than 9db synonymous with the Fx1, but much less. I have an identical scene of the VX2000 and the FX1. Die of the VX2000 is much too bright, as it is fact. In addition, the colors in Low Light, more realistic than the VX2000. I say it this way, a car's red paint has faded in the sun, the VX2000 looks like freshly varnished, while the car when Fx1 looks the way it is. These considerations are all related to automatic. So as you see it, as one sees with the eye. Has been in the disco that is, something which is lit, then this wonderfully dark and everything else that is not illuminated is thus not so unnaturally bright, like the VX. In addition, the last in the GAIN Fx1 anywhere from 0-Select 18db, can be preset via a switch on top of three values, I have decided to go for 6, 9, 12.
Filming one example, a city in the dark 6db just fine and then it is noise-free. Quite remarkable when one takes into account moreover, that the same chip size, there are more pixels than the VX. No, I was pleasantly surprised bezgl LowLight of the FX1.
Antwort von Nightfly!:
Hello sammy
In lowlight and especially in the DISCO please note the smear effect.
The you could ruin the whole recording!
Especially with the FX1
"... Indeed on some FX1 footage, shot s.night, car headlights would smear significantly, making a huge vertical spike that covered the entire ..."
(Source: http://www.dvxuser.com/articles/shoot3/)
Under the link you have still synonymous nice comparison pictures to Sony, Panasonic and Canon.
Greeting
Nightfly.
Antwort von WeiZen:
Moin,
Hmm, something like the picture
on Lens Flare FX1? Before I am now leaning too far out the window, I look at it again with me. 've Got plenty of examples. But as clear as on the above Stillimage it if at all, only rarely have synonymous disco / party shots, which would have struck me.
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
the effect I have on many models is not as strong in my memory.
Except for the JVC HD 100/101 pictures, he was already a strong presence.
But what good CMOS camcorder will then be taken (HC 1)
?
Recently synonymous smear were seen during an interview of RTL's Formula 1 with Flavio Briatore to. A few seconds later, the cameraman's perspective changed, but a few seconds he was visible.
LG
January
Antwort von SammyGray:
others just ask .. what is it with a SONY DSR-200AP?
Antwort von Jan:
Sorry, I know the DVCam Sonynur from hearing and seeing.
Probably a cheap shoulder mounted camcorder with superb quality.
But the price would still be higher than Class ne ne VX 2100 or XL 1 or 2
LG
January
