Frage von Milania:
Hello,
I used After Effects in version CS3 and use synonymous hd projects (1920, 1080).
My problem is that I half despite a lot of non-resolution of the preview there will always be the memory is full (had 2GB of RAM installed).
Well I thought I synonymous files on the hard drive to be written. only it is not this somehow. I use the plug in Nucleo pro, but there I found no setting that allows the disk to use. But who I Nucleo synonymous off disc cache is not used (in the course options enabled)
The paging file is not used, not when I use the 2GB, 4GB even though I use it always stops at 2gb ca.
In the settings in memory cache and I have the maximum Ram Chache stand at 60% (ie, standard) and the maximum memory usage at 120% = 2GB (default synonymous), however, I can change this value shall not be higher, he will always remain with 2GB.
Why is that?
How can I get AE to files on the hard drive to write?
Antwort von Fubi:
How can I get AE to files on the hard drive to write? Where do you want because what force? AE's cache works ebenenorintiert, not as a buffer for the timeline. There will be more or less sub-compositions or individual levels with complex Effect buffered stacks that are not in a given time X can be recalculated. If you are of course all in one composition and searched constantly tuned rumzupfst, the cache can even do nothing as synonymous NucleoPro no "Commit to Disk" or rendering the background can make - of footage which is edited continuously, allows the synonymous Nucleo paws. Purchase you just noch'n bissl RAM. Is pretty pointless anyway, on your system at all Nucleo thing to have with or HD 1080 to work. And with the paging file has no effect on the term of your operations - are all the 2GB Windows' own stuff - Inactive Programs, Nucleo outsourcing various system caches, etc.. The usual Schmotter flat. Um's once again clear to say: wrong system in combination with good, but because of the bad system's software useless. Until there is doing what, you will probably have to be content, your compositions into quarters or even nidrigerer resolution previewers them.
Mylenium
Antwort von Milania:
Yes I want the data in the preview to the main memory are synonymous, when the memory is full, the hard drive to be written, but the theory should be possible.
In the options so you can specify the storage and use in the help is synonymous to the values above 100% are synonymous because something in the virtual memory is written.
Only it is with me so that synonymous if I set the value to 180% bsp put it still remains at 2gb.
and the more ram of course the best thing is already clear to me, only I would not ask if I did not for a cheaper method would seek.
And the statement in my Nucleo synonymous system is completely wrong, I Nucleo without a utilization of 70 - 80 & Nucleo and with a utilization of 100% continuous - for me it is in any case an increase in performance.
Antwort von pingu2k:
cheaper method would seek. 1GB RamRiegel but already you get a 30 ¬ ...
If this is not cheap ...
And more than 3Gig make a 32bit OS AUH no sense ... but AE has 2 Gig just for yourself ...
Antwort von pingu2k:
And more than 3Gig make a 32bit OS AUH no sense ... but AE has 2 Gig just for yourself ... Is nich. 4GB is already -> 1 GB of kernel memory, 3GB of AE (with / 3GB switch in boot.ini).
Mylenium
Antwort von Milania:
cheaper method would seek.
1GB RamRiegel but already you get a 30 ¬ ...
If this is not cheap ...
[...] 4 * 30 are synonymous and the 120 ¬ is Money
Antwort von Elenex:
4 * 30 are synonymous and the 120 ¬ is Money Well, that's true already, but then one should perhaps not necessarily synonymous make auf'm home PC Movies in Full HD to want to cut. Is not evil intentioned, but somehow collide as very powerful claim and reality. And did you ever not the money for Nucleo rausgefenstert, if we had the discussion yet less ...
Well, but still: Just as you get the imagine, this is simply not true. You can nix da force and the difference of 70-80% without and 100% with Nucleo is now Krümelkackerei - if in doubt, the performance is lost anyway, because your system only rumrödelt, but not productive renders. I can think Taskmanager synonymous with 'nem abgeschmierten process on 100% high-hunt and then the system is good but just to Warmlufterzeugen. :-O.
If you really so much because, out of a maximum s.Echtzeitperformance, you will probably do nothing else left than to move first and then either ndort video hardware or with a highly optimized software codec such as Cineform or Sheer HD video to work.
Mylenium
Antwort von Milania:
But all this explains why I am not in the settings at maximum memory value no higher than 120% can be entered.
and a question I have, not necessarily directly to After Effects:
In Task Manager there is a column "Memory Usage" and "Virtual Memory", I see this correctly with the virtual memory paging file is meant?
Nevertheless, I will now look for a new scout RAM.
btw. for a 32bit system can only address 4GB of memory, if I now have 4GB of memory and my graphics card, for example, 256MB, where memory is then ignored? or is it broken?
EDIT: Ok the issue with the Task Manager has been done I think. The Virtual Memory should be the total used memory, so memory + paging file, and the difference of virtual memory and memory usage is then the paging file (ie the use of it)
Antwort von darg:
The memory of the graphic card is included in the calculation with one. This is but as far as I know always uses Winbugs and ignored the primary memory from the bars on the board.
What I like here in the discussion is missing is the question about your system specs. What kind of CPU, RAM and Speed GraKa did you run? What a system disk?
Greeting
Axel, San Jose
Antwort von Elenex:
The Virtual Memory should be the total used memory, so memory + paging file, and the difference of virtual memory and memory usage is then the paging file (ie the use of it) No, not necessarily. The paging file can be synonymous with the maximum memory theoretically an almost infinite size, which bear no relation to the active programs in the foreground stands. Would now be too complicated, the attention to detail to explain, but the whole thing is more or less a kind of "garbage dump", where everything is on hold, which is not currently needed. The next memory pages can be synonymous virtual desktops, driver instances, icons, fonts, network buffers, etc., etc..
To your other question: What kind of memory on your graphics card it is, Windows is pretty horn. It manages all the drivers and the maximum is responding to specific memory requirements of OpenGL or DirectX commands eg for textures accordingly. Otherwise, the graphics system is a large black hole, of the Windows only knows Resolutionund color depth and these parameters within its window is characterized. In the strict sense, it is holding only a "device" and as completely isses taster if's' s iPod screen, or 's HD display, as long as the device communicates with Windows and the two understood by drivers.
Mylenium
Antwort von Milania:
What I like here in the discussion is missing is the question about your system specs. What kind of CPU, RAM and Speed GraKa did you run? What a system disk?
[...] true I have not even been mentioned:
P5WD2-E Premium
D930 @ 3.6 GHz
2GB DDR2-533 3-3-3-8
Ati Radeon X1300 256mb
Windows XP 32bit
if I just have my graphics card can I mention synonymous equal another problem to say:
egtl supports these Open GL graphics card (see
hier)
doch wenn ich es aktiviere dauert es nicht lange and After Fffects stürzt with der Meldung "After Effekts ist beim Aufrufen des AE_OpenGL Plug ins abgestürzt" ab.
jemand eine Idee wo da das Problem liegen könnte?
@Mylenium, müsste laut deiner Theorie nicht die 4gb + 256mb der graphics card bei einem 32bit System möglich sein, wenn der Drivers das verwaltet
Antwort von darg:
Thanks for the info and just as well as in respect of Adobe products and HDV editing in general. The box is easy to schwachbrüstig what the memory speed is concerned. The CPU is already a dual core but not halt the rocket, what are the FSB and L2 and the HDV, you need to get at. In addition, Adobe is a Resource killer. Only the hands of the software needed to keep a lot of power already, since then for HDV is not much left.
In relation to the GraKaProblem I would Kicking times the card, all drivers away and reinstall. Sounds as if something he has not properly noticed.
What else is running on the machine? Dignity for video rather minimalist rang address, so no big frills around, especially virus scanners, if he must take a slim as AntiVir and no Norton or McAffee Crap scrap use. The bring eh nix.
Axel, San Jose
Antwort von gimp:
especially virus scanners, if he must take a slim as AntiVir and no Norton or McAffee Crap scrap use. The bring eh nix.
Virus scanners during the video editing off - before connection to the Internet. Some scanners are useful so that they each generated / open file and check for unknown extensions = heuristically with the high computational effort to do. Denk s.die times since thousands of temp files, an editing program can generate ...
Antwort von Milania:
So I try to have the system as minimalist as possible.
Although I have a virus scanner and a firewall, or run but no other programs in the background.
Virus scanner up to now I have always tempered the off but it is a good idea, I immediately made
Antwort von darg:
Well, you can Antivir fortunately very minimalist setting and with reasonable sums Config temps are not synonymous and or video files to.
But I think that the machine simply is not the winner. The old Pentium D are just scrap, because the play no role 3.6GHz, memory connection only runs on 533 and has a jump at 667 is palpable. Whether the rifle could be next over clock, it is questionable whether and on what it takes?
The best way to deal with the no preview abzufinden resolution or, as the Board may CPUs LG775 yes, I would maybe just $ 200 in a small E9XXX Dou or even a quad and put the memory upgrade.
Axel, San Jose
Antwort von Milania:
In memory, I will be 800 times for a look.
What are the advantages of a memory 800 to a 533er, particularly in relation to video editing?
And the chipset of my motherboard supports quad, but just this one motherboard, it can not, because a component was somehow forgotten or so.
Antwort von darg:
So the jump 533 to 800 is already noticeable, even of 533 to 667 is evident, so it will be even larger. Since it is a ASUS is one could perhaps s.ein small Overclocking dare :-)
Gruss
Axel, San Jose
Antwort von ereshkigal:
regarding RAM:
What is more important: latency or slow?
Especially in miser geguckt: at 4GB, there is no CL4 (!)-Bars, of CL3 to mention! Where we are as only hingeraten earlier but was CL3 gang and there! D
But is already mad: 4GB CL4 800MHz for 80 Öcken!
And then even more beautiful amateurishly the question:
What makes Nucleo Pro? The rendering faster? Why is this not already in AE "built"?
Antwort von Milania:
So, kindly get 4gb gift.
and I must say I'm really impressed and this is clearly a really noticeable difference in performance!
It is now synonymous with a 800 memory timings to 4-4-4-13
Programs are also MUCH faster to load, for example, the previously word07 the first 2.5 s is always used for the second time, there were still about 1.7 s
Now the first time at 0.8 s and 0.4 s the second time (!) (values measured with the stopwatch, not a 100% accuracy)
After I've changed the boot.ini now synonymous AFX utilizes the full 3GB thus significantly longer synonymous preview is / may be
And nucleon Pro - is a program of what the AE Muliptozzesrendering replaced and most peculiar in the final output through 100% CPU utilization has, and thus the matter has clearly accelerated.
What is more important: latency or slow? hab mal in Wikipedia nachgeschaut and the actual latency is probably the most important, it consists of the clock and the latency of:
2 * latency / clock
would arise for me:
2 * 4 / 800
= 10ns
Antwort von zeromostel:
But I think that the machine simply is not the winner. The old Pentium D are just scrap, because the play no role 3.6GHz, memory connection only runs on 533 and has a jump at 667 is palpable. Whether the rifle could be next over clock, it is questionable whether and on what it takes?
The best way to deal with the no preview abzufinden resolution or, as the Board may CPUs LG775 yes, I would maybe just $ 200 in a small E9XXX Dou or even a quad and put the memory upgrade.
Axel, San Jose Ahoi Axel, ... I wanted at this point only slightly corrected (for other readers).
With 3.6 Ghz is usually not the Pentium D 805 intentioned (no preference obs is possible).
When you're right, it runs at 533 MHz.
But even the Pentium D 820 (Smithfield) with 800 Mhz can start something and has a core 1024 KB L2 cache.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_D
I use the D 940 (Presle) ... even the 2048 KB L2 cache per core! ... in conjunction with the 965G chipset and 2 GB of Corsair (DDR2 PC 6400/800 Mhz/5-5-5) ... .
At the same motherboard (Gigabyte - GA DS3 / Rev. 1) before ran a Pentium E 6300 is only marginally faster and somehow not so redundant.
Why? This question was too much to me soon!
The 940er runs pretty fast and really stable at default: 3.2 Ghz,
... and more power, for example, 225 Mhz FSB / 3.6 Ghz (aus'm Bios out) are not a problem synonymous (no change in behavior synonymous with <68 degrees Celsius, at least 90% utilization), but ... somehow not necessary. He is also very stable!
I would be interested in ... is a Pentium D / Presle with matching chipset (eg 965 *) and the best from this generation as the basis,
really not able to handle HDV? Anybody who has a clean file for free?
