Frage von Juppo:
Hi,
I want to invest a little in sound and record my scenic work two lanes.
I am currently in possession of NTG 2 and a pmd 620th
I imagine it like this, dialogue is caught and atmosphere is absorbed by Tripod.
I realize that the atmosphere synonymous with hindsight I could record it is only me synonymous to the noises the second example produces an actor.
My PMD 620 can not only record a track, so I plan to sell this and get me something new.
What do you think ZH4 from Zoom? What are the good alternatives in the price range?
My second question would be which is suitable for micro Atmos? The non-fair use, I had not written. Sun Microsystems budget for 100-150 euros.
I would like to position the micro-atmosphere, so for me the internal mics are not really in question.
My idea makes any sense? ;)
I ask for advice
Julius [/ u]
Antwort von Juppo:
What do you think of this one?
thomann.de / de / soundman_okmii.htm
Ball pattern is still the best for atmosphere or recordings? Or is it a wide vlt kidney?
Julius
Antwort von Juppo:
What do you think of this one?
thomann.de / de / soundman_okmii.htm
Ball pattern is still the best for atmosphere or recordings? Or is it a wide vlt kidney?
Julius
Antwort von domain:
The at least equivalent "tune" of Ruessel with ¬ 71, - much cheaper
http://www.ohrwurmaudio.de/o_beschr.html
Antwort von NEEL:
Hi,
have my sound man once looked over his shoulder. Inside and out, he regularly uses to record two Sennheiser MKH 40 to Atmos in stereo. These are to buy expensive, but can be synonymous to rent. In principle, Atmos usually taken immediately to the scene to hide the noise, that's better for mixing. If the source is shown in the picture, you need depending on the situation, according to miking. can this I would be s.Deiner place of advising a soundman, the rent you the equipment may be synonymous times cheap. A good standard - Micro (synonymous for small shoots without sound engineer) is a Schoeps MK41, which can be used for dialogues (inside) and equally Atmos use. From better solutions I leave after bitter experiences, put your fingers and try to own rather than rent.
Gruss,
Neel
Antwort von Juppo:
This catchy thing is I still think very impractical ... but funny somehow ... unnecessarily ...
On the subject of loan: Generally, I would be synonymous for rent, however it is therefore very inflexible and in Amatuerbereich I see flexibility as one of the advantages.
If the production is bigger I will start to rent synonymous.
With the quality of NTG 2, I'm quite satisfied. Is there a micro for Amto shots at this level.
The idea with the two Sennheiser makes sense. Only one would work with again with 3 lanes, right? Is it usual to work this way or just an alternative? What mics for one could take the place of the Sennheiser (just over my budget:))?
Who knows the alternative ZH4 to zoom? Vlt one with you because then able to record 3-4 tracks?
The talks with a soundman I will look definitely. Is this by chance a go: P
Julius
Antwort von Leini:
Hi,
especially after I got asked Micro atmosphere of Thomann following response:
Rode NT 3 Take the - very balanced sound - is synonymous with Battery operated:
http://www.thomann.de/de/rode_nt3.htm mfg
Leini
Antwort von gunman:
[Quote = "Juppo"] The catchy thing is I still think very impractical ... but funny somehow ... unnecessarily ...
I'd test it again before you can such unfounded Auesserungen launched.
I use the catchy tune for 2 years and am very satisfied!
Gunman
Antwort von Juppo:
Have you then NEN Tonassi as Tripod or do you own the mics in the ear? When the microphone is wearing it as a camera man too far away of the scene, right? As such, I find it impractical. Would like to put onto a micro tripod.
The NT 3 times I'm going to take a closer look, anyone have experience with it?
Julius
Antwort von Mink:
The Zoom H4 is still (in principle) four lanes .... built-in stereo microphones hats synonymous ... the record for the "amateur" and to ne atmosphere but perhaps enough.
Otherwise you peep it at the time:
http://www.thomann.de/de/beyerdynamic_mce72cam_stereomikrofon.htm
The cameraman is still far away from the action the way a funny statement ..... what film do you want ... appears to be the very special things ....(?)
Antwort von Juppo:
If the ZH4 on both XLR stereo-channels? Problem it would be one or even to split the two channels ...
Whichever one is from schonmal 5 or more meters is not it? If you turn on the distance the head, but you messed up the sound or? Although omni-oh ... I pull everything back, have never tried;) Only for me it is the right one;)
Julius
Antwort von Bespi:
Who knows the alternative ZH4 to zoom? Vlt one with you because then able to record 3-4 tracks?
Julius zoom zoom r16 or r24.
Antwort von domain:
So honestly,
I have the
old catchy synonymous never used as designated, with critical shots because I always like to have on headphones and not a micro one.
But with the old one had two catchy quality microphones for many impromptu opportunities available and the fact it came to me.
I also understand your investment pleasure not know.
You already now including three relatively high-quality microphones PMD 620 is available and take atmosphere, as already mentioned, in any case not necessarily simultaneously with the dominant Tonkulisse on.
In addition, each field recorder with simple means (voltage divider) if convertible necessary so that, as a fictitious micro from the line-out or even from the headphone out her "abuse" are and can thus be synonymous placed on the second channel of the camera.
Particularly convenient, of course, if the camera itself has been a line-in input.
Antwort von Juppo:
I have only the second NTG ..
The sound, the microphones, the PMD has never really liked me.
I would like to apply the upgrade situations it Dennen advantage of the atmosphere would be recorded during the scene. I also am of the view that one can not cover everything with a super cardioid ... can you film so synonymous not without wide;)
The Aufnahmegeraet I have frequently abused me gefiehl ... only the sound, the microphones, the pmd is not just turning and I also currently with most DSLRs and because it is STUPID recorded on the camera ...
Currently I'm considering the NT 3 to create and adjust the zoom r16, in the future so that I can cover more tracks.
Zoom Get me the r16 but look again ... handling etc.
Julius
Antwort von domain:
I do not know what professional league because you have in mind.
But if you look at typical amateur movies with professional aspirations, then you can see very quickly that is already zugedudelt any atmosphere to 80% with a royaltyfree Music beyond recognition.
In addition, each micro with each equalizer can be distorted beyond recognition if it starts to rustle not strong.
Difficult to imagine that you look with max. ¬ 150 - quite rightly want their own special quality criteria tinker.
Antwort von Juppo:
How? Just because most amateurs simply Music slap me to do that simply synonymous ...
I know that I can put in my budget is not too high demands in terms of quality.
I just want to take up only the atmosphere along the way, this is my right, my idea, do I need a Atmomikro. The NT3 is because, in my view, a good price / performance ratio. In addition, I am with my NTG 2 very happy. Hope the NT 3 is similarly good.
How can I make it otherwise?
If I have then 2 mics, I have two tracks synonymous, I have to take, so the Zoom H4 or r16. What's more, the R16 has more future for me. If I need, for example, in special situations 3 or more microphones.
I think that with the two tracks for useful ... or it makes no sense?
Julius
