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Frage von duvancam:


Hi,

will soon be a documentary with my good old XL 1 turn and am currently in the process they are aufzumotzen. To do this I need your help again.

I need a micro phone, with which I can record interviews. Ideally there would be one of those little one's shirt s.das. Do you know how to read and where you herbekommt?

Furthermore, I am still at the consultation, whether it is worth a second for external Micro ATMO noise care. Since I will be traveling alone and no sound man did this, it might be interesting to yourself after ATMO Rotate again incorporated.

I would be interested to know whether it is worth the Camera "internal" Micro XL 1 of the exchange against a new one? Can the new mount so that the noise does not drive with recorded?

I thank you in advance for your help:)

Thanks again s.der body sBDeKid, your posts have had me put on the decision, but the XL 1 and to take me in two years then ne ordinary HD Cam to get;)

Edit from Mod: question in the section "camcorder-accessories folder.



Antwort von Markus:

"duvancam" wrote: I need a micro phone, with which I can record interviews. Ideally there would be one of those little one's shirt s.das. Do you know how to read and where you herbekommt?
The synonymous called Lavalier-Mikrofone (<- Link).

"duvancam" wrote: Lavalier-Mikrofone (<- Link).

Furthermore, I am still at the consultation, whether it is worth a second for external Micro ATMO noise care. Since I will be traveling alone and no sound man did this, it might be interesting to yourself after ATMO Rotate again incorporated. Lavalier-Mikrofone (<- Link).


Your idea sounds very reasonable to. For this application would be perhaps a stereo Microphone interesting.



Antwort von duvancam:

"Mark" wrote:
The synonymous called Lavalier-Mikrofone (<- Link).
Danke dir! Teurer als erwartet die Dinger, aber da findet sich bestimmt was ;)

"Mark" wrote: Your idea sounds very reasonable to. For this application would be perhaps a stereo Microphone interesting.
Can you recommend something?



Antwort von Markus:

"duvancam" wrote: [stereo-microphone] Can you recommend something?
Not directly, but you could ever define a price framework. If it is to go fast or very little effort to be an AT I-825 a (XY-stereo), but in concert recordings are more microphones, usRøde NT5 (AB-stereo).



Antwort von duvancam:

Ideally, the framework would be at 300 ¬, I see just that the s.825 is a little about what is necessary to cope with it yet.
you know with the canon ma 300 from? is the micro with this adapter compatible? I only hear time and again that the latter has no phantom power, which means that I have to s.825 not with battery-operated - have a long life in the micro or proceed swiftly to tend?



Antwort von Markus:

"duvancam" wrote: you know with the canon ma 300 from? is the [at-825] with this adapter compatible?
Of the ports since this combination fits together. The AT-825 comes with 2x XLR (3-pol.) S.and MA-300 has both XLR jacks times.

The MA-300 does not provide phantom power, which restricts the microphone selection. The AT-825 but can be synonymous with a Battery feed, making the operation possible. How long a battery in this case, I am not. This option, I have perhaps twice (each 2 hours operating time) and tried out while everything was in order.

But yet another question: The MA-300 is approved for use s.intelligenten accessory shoe of the XM2 thought. Really fits with the XL1S together?



Antwort von duvancam:

yes, what I have read so far, is synonymous for the XL 1 thought. there would have hinhauen. just annoying that the good things back 180 ¬ more expensive.



Antwort von duvancam:

ok, but not, damn, that part will only fit on the xm 2, then it's probably but a ma 100th .. thank you again for the note



Antwort von wowow:

I'd still synonymous Tip: If you want to record interviews, is a mono actually better because then you can include directional, then you have less ambient noise on it (noise, camera noise, etc.). I use as a ME 64 with K6-feeding of Sennheiser. It fits well s.die XL1 ran (at least with the adapter shoe to XLR). The recordings are not rushing and are perfectly usable, even as a radio-O-Sound, and that should mean something.

Greetings!
wowo






Antwort von wowow:

One more thing: are inconspicuous in the sound quality is usually more second choice, even better grades. In noisy environments, they are virtually useless when the wind is extremely sensitive and even under ideal conditions does not sound so doll.

wowo



Antwort von Schlafsack:

"wowow" wrote: even under ideal conditions does not sound so doll

The thorax vibrates when talking with. The book is the resonance frequency of 700Hz for the men in women around the 800 Hz If this frequency with the parametric EQ software video at about 6dB lowered, (Ungefährwerte everything - you need a bit herumsuchen) then it should sound much better.
There are Lavaliermikros, so a frequency equalization have already built, but the most affordable and, I think, have not.



Antwort von duvancam:

Ah, now it's interesting, thanks for the input! I would have thought that the lavalier mics are very strong, but I am now probably a better naught!

@ wowow: the ME 64 looks good - now a very practical question: how I mount it s.besten? Can s.die XL 1s dranclippen or transferred to the drive sounds synonymous to the Camera? Is this an extra Tripod? That would of course be annoying .. or is there another possibility, Micro to connect with Camera? (synonymous with the interviews, I am alone and have no possibility of the sound in any way and manner during the talks big influence)

@ Markus: The Micro Stereo at 825 - Is it possible without concerns s.die Camera bolt or is there the same problem with the internal micro-camera that drive noises are?

the offer looks attractive here
http://cgi.ebay.de/Speiseadapter-K6-and-ME-64-Sennheiser-Mikrofon_W0QQitemZ130226689501QQcmdZViewItem?IMSfp=TL0805301526a209

worthwhile?

Thanks again for your help, I find great:)



Antwort von Markus:

"duvancam" wrote: I would have thought that the lavalier mics are very strong ...
Thus, synonymous and from my experience so far recorded sound synonymous Gesprächsrunden very clean. If the above issues would be true, why are in talks on television has always been inconspicuous, if not good quality they should be? And why can the result still convince?

One must, however, decide whether you lavalier microphones with ball or use a cardioid polar pattern can / should be. The ball has the advantage that a synonymous Rotate the head is not equal to greater level differences, but more ambient noise recorded. In the kidney, it is exactly the opposite.

"duvancam" wrote: Can I [microphone] s.die XL 1s dranclippen or transferred to the drive sounds synonymous to the Camera? Is this an extra Tripod?
A microphone should preferably never "directly" s.einem camcorder attached, but only with an elastic suspension in between. What it is all about so, you will find in the linked contributions of the following discussion:

-> Hum at XL1S



Antwort von duvancam:

hey Markus,

grateful that with the "hum" was already known to me. How can I but a Micro Camera s.die elastic hang? Again and again we read of "microphone spinning", but how do I get the s.meine XL1S?
I need as a compulsive Mirko s.der Cam, as I said because I do not have to Tonmann and thus will not "fishing" can go.

/ edit: ok, I have the mt BS 86 + corresponding spider now discovered - but what spider suit for instance, the ME 64? on beyerdynamic there are no records for the Model .. Are other spiders because synonymous with the BS 86 compatible or just the models of bdyn?

/ Edit2: for a 825 GB would be as follows the spider thought of AT-8410 (http://www.thomann.de/de/audio_technica_at_8410_a.htm) - I can via the BS 86 to mount my camera? The size of the spider makes me rather suspect that it is for a spider's Studio ..



Antwort von Markus:

"duvancam" wrote: ... but the spider, for example, fits to the ME 64? on beyerdynamic there are no records for the Model ..
It is not important that you accurately Beyerdynamic Microphone at a certain spider performs. S.Ende It is only important that the diameter of the microphone shaft s.in the spider fits and b) is kept secure. There may be several spiders for a same-and Microphone fit synonymous Beyerdynamic if this is not published.

"duvancam" wrote: Are other spiders because synonymous with the BS 86 compatible or just the models of bdyn?
The 86 BS spinnenseitig ends with a 3 / 8 "thread. This is one of the two standard thread sizes for microphone clamps, so that all the other synonymous spider suit should have such a thread (for Not synonymous with adapter) available.



Antwort von duvancam:

help!

I have now a beyerdynamic MCE 72 & a sennheiser k6 + 64 bought me this, and mA 100 adapter -> However the 3polige xlr connectors, whereas the microphone over 5polige has ..

I must now NEN adapter for the adapter to buy?
Slowly it's getting ridiculous (and annoying argh!).



Antwort von Markus:

"duvancam" wrote: ... mA 100 adapter -> However the 3polige xlr connectors, whereas the microphone over 5polige has ..
The 3-pin XLR connections are standard in the field of audio, while for reasons of space s.Stereomikrofonen often the 5-pin version can be found. This can be easily adapted, however.

Any product you find



Antwort von duvancam:

Thank you (as always;) Markus!

Your article brings together two 3pin to a 5pin

what kind of benefits but then as such a time?
http://www.hallo-dj.de/product_info.php?info=p1679_XLR-Buchse-3-polig-auf- XLR Male-5-polig.html

of making only a 3pin one 5pin -> ie, I can probably not use the stereo's for, right?






Antwort von Markus:

"duvancam" wrote: of making only a 3pin one 5pin -> ie, I can probably not use the stereo's for, right?
Yes and no (in that order). For each audio channel is required for symmetric signaling 3 conductors (at X, L and R *), which is in stereo, the mass transfers can be used together. This results in 5 lines.

* X creen (shielding), L ive, R eturn



Antwort von duvancam:

I'm not sure if I take you there 100% understood.

yes, it would go, but only one channel record, right?



Antwort von Markus:

I write something apart:

"duvancam" wrote: of making only a 3pin one 5pin ...
Yes. - This does not mean that it would work, because that depends on the wiring of the s.and I do not think. In addition, it makes no sense to separate a stereo microphone, so only one channel (mono) to deduct and to mature, right? ;-)

"duvancam" wrote: -> Ie, I can probably not use the stereo's for, right?
No.. - To the stereo signal to deduct mature, it requires a clean separation in two 3-pin. XLR.



Antwort von duvancam:

ok, so like I had understood it synonymous!

when I solder the cable itself will (which I will not row on the war, with the aid of known what might be) - what parts I need exactly? I go times of a

- 5 pin XLR coupling (f)
(http://www.hallo-dj.de/product_info.php/info/p6837_XLR-Kupplung-5-polig.html)

- 2 x 3 pin XLR plug (m)
(http://www.hallo-dj.de/product_info.php/info/p1653_XLR-Male-3-polig-Omnitronic.html)

- Cable: what and where can I change the corresponding & financial?
/ Edit2: a Y-adapter cable is right for me at times .. I can then the other statements and by abzwacken xlr plug / clutch replacement? or you need to back a particular cable

as I said I absolutely green behind the ears as DIY is concerned ..

/ e: ui, here in this forum can not write fe_male without the spam filter is concerned;)



Antwort von Markus:

"duvancam" wrote: when I solder the cable itself will need [...] I agree with what exactly?
The above times and couplings agree extent, but I would strongly advise you, with a reasonable quality to take full relief. Neutrik
"Duvancam" wrote: Neutrik
- Cable: what and where can I change the corresponding & Neutrik
financial? Neutrik

Makes sense I would purchase a 2-Audio multi-core, for example, Cordial CMK 422 Zwillingskabel.

"duvancam" wrote: Cordial CMK 422 Zwillingskabel.

/ e: ui, here in this forum can not write fe_male without the spam filter is concerned;) Cordial CMK 422 Zwillingskabel.


Well, that was sadly needed. However, as synonymous likes of a "clutch" or a "bitch" and Cordial CMK 422 Zwillingskabel.

talked to reduce it with "fem" or even just "f" (eg XLR / fem).



Antwort von duvancam:

ok, even for short cables to 5pin and coupling: how to get cable because the two finally work together? are the s.anderen of the already connected from home or do I need to somehow introduce the clutch?
the clutch is obviously only a rear opening, because both cables fit inside?



Antwort von Markus:

"duvancam" wrote: how do you get the two cables because finally together?
Twin cable consists of two wires are connected, but can be separated synonymous.

"duvancam" wrote: the clutch is obviously only a rear opening, because both cables fit inside?
Yes, the twin cable fits through the (very flexible) opening a Neutrik XLR connector. I myself as a Y-cable here, so I know das ;-)



Antwort von duvancam:

ok, super super super thanks markus, you've got me really through this whole tongeschichte saved!



Antwort von Markus:

I love stories with happy ending. : D