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More on Apple's new ProRes 422 Codec for Final Cut Studio 2 of rob - 20 Apr 2007 12:46:00
Slowly but surely, emerging more and more details about the new features of Final Cut Pro 6 or Final Cut Studio 2 Apple out of that these days at NAB was presented (as reported). Among the new features also include, as already mentioned, a new codec called ProRes 422 with a data rate of just over 200 Mbps HD-material for the processing even on a MacPro laptop possible. The codec is, according to Apple's, work very color fidelity and especially little Prozesssorlast need. While there are some modern compression techniques to compress more efficiently, but need this much computing power when decompress, so that a real-time processing difficult if not prevented. ProRes 422 was at little extra processor load and designed at a time (allegedly) with a high-Threading Processor provide potential. This means that the processing of codecs specially designed for multi-processor and multi-core systems and is therefore a high level of performance possible, exactly synonymous with multiple HD video streams in real time should be played. Once Final Cut Studio 2 arrives with us, we know more ... stay tuned ...

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Antwort von jonas_kl:

And what is to be groundbreaking?
That gives it as Canopus HQ codec is already at least 2 years.

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Antwort von PowerMac:

The little difference: Canopus is not, Apple are. Is really new in the IT world, never anything. Inventions are extremely rare. Often, there are innovations. Invention uneven innovation. The new and improved Apple Workflow are cool (due to OS X) and the low processor load. The build in Quicktime and then the entire Final Cut Pro Studio and get a real innovation.

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Antwort von camworks:

Canopus is not? if you look at the apple store brille driven, you will realize that now Canopus Grass Valley belongs. Grass Valley is one of the most powerful company in the broadcast sector and the Edius are in the very next time to push.

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Pushing and enforcement are two pairs of shoes;)

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Antwort von jonas_kl:

Apple is only if the codec is synonymous for Windows will, no doubt.
However, Sony, Red and other s.Board are, it might well be that the codec synonymous in Quicktime for Windows is shipped. There, however, he might of Apple will be artificially slowed down.
At the coolest would be if the Canopus HQ codec for everyone would make. The Manufacturer, who was the first platform cross freely available codec (s.besten still free) rausbringt wins.

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Why? If the codec is available for each platform would be yes None Final Cut Pro Studio, or else buy anymore.

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Antwort von HeikoS:

Ahem, what could be crystallized is please?
The codecs are production and no distribution formats. So it may be really cold, whether it be global standard or not.

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Antwort von camworks:

"HeikoS" wrote: Ahem, what could be crystallized is please?
The codecs are production and no distribution formats. So it may be really cold, whether it be global standard or not.


so yes, I wrote of Edius and not by the codec. the average program, which is the best codec, it will prevail in the long term. there is still much to do.

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Antwort von PowerMac:

It is the success of a cut system but not (exclusively) used by the codec addictive. Since there are a thousand other factors, which are much more important. Usability, performance, stability, support, workflow, Foreseeable the direction in which a program will develop the speed with which one cuts, features, additional programs, the quality of plug-ins, technical quality of the output medium, standards conformance, cooperation with third-party manufacturers, scalability etc.

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Antwort von camworks:

in all other differences between the programs, but barely. make because of the codec used and the infrastructure of hardware, nor the biggest difference.

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Antwort von pixler:

@ Camworks

I know Edius not synonymous and I want no war, or to lostreten incidentally. I can only say what I said in my surroundings here in zurich know - as a 3d animator & compositor after effects, I have fairly good insight into the postpro scene of Zurich (Switzerland fernsehen, various studios postpro [online, prime time, eleven frame, greenhouse, condor films. .... etc.] and many small companies in the video, graphics, animation and film work, film school, etc.) I see almost exclusively avid FinalCut and cut jobs (approximately 50/50). other systems such as cut Edius, premiere, or so I almost never face.

The success of codecs in the "lowbudget" area, but certainly an important role: the more a little I DigiBeta or HDCAM maz rent because I need with my apple quicktime uncompressed 8 / 10 bit files can go almost anywhere (as for Capture for rausspielen ) without any conversions there are easy harddisk dock at home and post rausspielen problem - is already a huge progress (it is probably synonymous with the prores422 be) and ultimately saves quite expensive.

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Antwort von Axel:

"camworks" wrote: in all other differences between the programs, but barely. make because of the codec used and the infrastructure of hardware, nor the biggest difference.

I believe that the new open timeline of Final Cut Pro 6 is in its practical significance underestimated. How often do you have the embarrassment of different sizes, frame rates and codecs in a sequence to copy?
The difference is already clear in Shake, the "infinite workspace" has been long. Practically viewer and canvas in a normal NLE once defined by the preferences are defined. Not only that we must render it to "foreign" material integrated to see, you see it is no longer synonymous relative to each other. The rigid framework - eg, DV Pal - diminish the actual dimensions of the original. In future this restriction will be considered a bug.

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Antwort von Axel:

That was the wrong thread, I must go to bed.

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Antwort von wahlheidi:

Believe someone here is seriously something to go with the best codec?
Was it in Beta / VHS to the better codec?
Is HD-DVD/Blue-ray to better codec?
It was and is always just a clever marketing and lobbying and in comparison to Apple fade nunmal most.
Was synonymous with Avid NLE, Apple is synonymous with hardware solutions for "creative" and it is in the software sector are the same (are now good friends again with Adobe ...)
The biggest step Apple has but with the improved content management made it clear that the majority of larger companies so far prevented s.einem Exchange - codec or not ...

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Antwort von wahlheidi:

Quote: Is HD-DVD/Blue-ray to better codec?

only about what you can write.

NOTHING! who is the MEDIUM s.einen determine codec makes Heise.de should be better at the forum such as the technical possibilities Off Topic settle.
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Ahem, what could be crystallized is please?
The codecs are production and no distribution formats. So it may be really cold, whether it be global standard or not.


it is no different and Heiko everything else is on schmarn.
The only problem is the integration of the codec into other programs and because some of them have geschludert formerly Canopus example was the Quicktime container but not otherwise.
The Abbel * g are ever a little fun time with their Quicktime platform since the last Rel Of particular for Windos Vista do not come zurande somewhat more stable in the future.

Now via the website, users get a bug report to be delivered why does not work because ABBL in a Resignationsloch fallen ..

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Is that not synonymous in German farmer?

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Antwort von HeikoS:

Strange, I understand it.
Should I translate it for you, dear PowerMac?

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Antwort von PowerMac:

That would be sweet.

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Antwort von Axel:

"Anonymous" wrote: The Abbel * g are ever a little fun time with their Quicktime platform since the last Rel Of particular for Windos Vista do not come zurande somewhat more stable in the future.

Now via the website, users get a bug report to be delivered why does not work because ABBL in a Resignationsloch fallen ..


Quicktime is of Apple, Windows Vista of Microsoft. The company, which publishes a new operating system, you can invite other companies, good s.einer integration projects. Windows Vista has probably somewhat hastily introduced. Resignation but there is no reason (in this case s.wenigsten for Apple), there has always rework, and finally, all rely on, that everything is working.

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Antwort von Chezus:

One can design an operating system so that older programs to run well. You may, however, poorly Programs for designing a system if you do not know how it is. (Before it is available, for example)

I compared the times with games consoles.

The Playstation is a good example. Old things are running on the new devices. Loben value, because there are a lot of their old games like to play without always rumstehen 5 consoles to have.
The structure of the Playstation is synonymous easier for developers to understand, so third parties can be synonymous easier and more effective to work with.

Vista seems to run quite a few "old" cutting programs for example, which I see very big disadvantage. It surprised me, therefore, not synonymous with problems that you have Quicktime.

I do not think it too much to ask (of Microsoft) to design an operating system that both for the user as a programmer for the synonymous User friendly, especially after such a long development period and the praise.

Offtopic END

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Antwort von HZJ:

But leave it Heiko, the PowerMac machts s.Bauerndeutsch finds nothing to be able to understand the other two s.MS Vista.

I have both systems in use and must say None gives the other something.

and again

Quote: The codecs are production and no distribution formats

like many others at synonymous and the LL and the Canopus Canopus HQ ... etc, etc.

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Funny I find this:

http://205.234.134.160/forum/showthread.php?t=1736&page=4

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Antwort von Ch.ch:

Quote: Was it in Beta / VHS to the better codec?

No. Of course not. For analog recording method, there are no codecs.

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