Newsmeldung von slashCAM:New update to Adobe Premiere CS4 4.1.0! Of heidi - 29 May 2009 19:32:00 Since today is the upgrade to Premiere Pro CS4 on Adobe 4.1.0 update distributed. What does the update? Improved compatibility with native RED R3D material (and no transcoding or Rewrapping more necessary if the new beta plugin of RED is used) and the RED Cam - improved interaction with Avid Media Composer, and hardware AVCHD NLE editing cards of AJA Video, Black Magic Design and Matrox, and numerous speed and stability improvements (; usbei playback of DV / HDV recording), bug fixes and the support of. VOB files. Thanks s.alle readers who update us on this attention! For more information (see here).
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Antwort von SteffenUp:
Finally!
Native AVCHD Edit now works without problems :-)
Synonymous and the missing 720p / i presets are now available.
Tested with AVCHD PH (21MBit / s) of footage HMC151.
In both 1080p/25 and 720p/50 butter soft full quality playback on a Q6600/8GigRAM/Windows7x64bit
Regards,
Steffen
Antwort von Jörg H.:
Has anyone ever virgin material with the Canon 5d mkII samples on a PC? From the camera was never anything so far regarding this fix, right?
THX!
Jörg
Antwort von PUDU:
Has anyone ever virgin material with the Canon 5d mkII samples on a PC? From the camera was never anything so far regarding this fix, right? Has never been so synonymous problems. From the 5D MkII comes h264 encoded Quicktime. Runs smoothly, with the exception of the fact that h264 relatively compute-intensive ...
Antwort von Jörg H.:
@ Pudu
Well, really not true. Sure, the AVCHD / Quicktime material 5d mkII Premiere Pro can import easily actually, but then there are the known problems when playing the sequence. Premiere jerky without end - synonymous to fine cutting machines, where the other players play the same material liquid. So s.der actual computing power, it can not lie.
My question is how the new update in the premiere performance especially regarding 5d-influenced material?
Because someone has experience?
I will over the holidays times s.einem Windows 7-system test and if None is faster here to announce the results.
(It is so people who do not have MAC ....;))
Greeting
Jörg
Antwort von robbie:
Is now certainly not relevant for many, but now works IMX synonymous.
Interestingly, synonymous with the famous bucking. Schade.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Joerg H.
Premiere is truly dedicated to the interaction with DSPs on GKS. Premiere at "conventional" computer architectures to run, provides no benefits.
Only in conjunction with new architectures and the corresponding new operating system is synonymous to the benefits calculator without DSPGK bring.
We look at the quad against another GK exchanged and did not think you can ....
Antwort von WoWu:
Sorry double post
Antwort von Jörg H.:
@ Wolfgang
Ok, thanks for the tip with the JSA! Find it annoying that other player / computer architectures with similar power FullHD of the 5d mkII dominate and only Adobe schwächelt here! Sounds in my ears after suboptimal software structure ...
Are there any cheap / old Quadros, as more of a help? I know myself with the things, but 2000, - ¬ would be too much! ... MAC would be a slow synonymous financially an alternative ......... :)
Jörg
Antwort von pailes:
Sure, the AVCHD / Quicktime material 5d mkII Premiere Pro can actually easily import I do not want the know-play, but the 5D MKII makes no AVCHD.
Antwort von WoWu:
Hello Jörg
I think Adobe has since deliberately decided for DSPs and the Quad card was once the first s.Markt.
ADOBE has, to my mind an entirely correct decision and no longer on the old computer architectures and even less on outdated operating systems set, but on those that come ... W7, or OS 10.6 ... You'll see that Premiere with such configurations then synonymous with no card will work fairly well.
My last info about the Nvidia Quad were around. $ 500 ... There were times synonymous bundles together with Premiere ... but I do not know if it still exists. What is now the new maps of the updates are concerned, it may well be that are more favorable.
In any case I would never Premiere on "old computer Configurations compare .... that must go wrong, because it simply does not has been made.
I was here in the thread a few details written:
http://forum.slashcam.de/konfiguration-fur-overclocked-high-performance-silent-pc-zur-avchd-videobar-vp358033.html?sid=1c666348c143f7f7ccc04d74025db660#358033
It shows a couple of reasons.
@ Pailer
I do not want the know-play, but the 5D MKII makes no AVCHD.
Right, because AVCHD and pay a registered trademark of Sony / Panasonic and Canon is probably not so stupid again, for the prints of the logo again in the pocket to grasp .... It makes but h.264 AVC profiles with the 77-level 5.0 of MPEG4 / H.264/AVC
Antwort von pailes:
Right, because AVCHD and pay a registered trademark of Sony / Panasonic and Canon is probably not so stupid again, for the prints of the logo again in the pocket to grasp .... It makes but h.264 AVC profiles with the 77-level 5.0 of MPEG4 / H.264/AVC I've already discussed with you and you have simply no idea what is AVCHD. A Quicktime container with AVC codec can not AVCHD, it is a Quicktime container with AVC no more. AVCHD requires MPEG-2 transport streams as container provided (and much more, I will not repeat it here, it bores me). Consequently, they may pay as much coal as they want, as long as they AVC in a Quicktime container produce they do not get AVCHD logo.
Antwort von WoWu:
Quite apart from the time that the container completely s.Kern the thread passes, not because the unpacking of the container makes the codec difficult.
According to your theory would AVCHD (ie Sonyand Panasonic) yes a monopoly on H.264 in MPEG2 transport containers .... that's such a nonsense ... The license you get is still at MPEGLA and not with Matsushita, then against the license from Apple Quicktime.
(Time, quite apart from the fact that Samsung synonymous in MPEG2 container packed, but not AVCHD drauf writes. (Because brand name)
The container does not AVCHD, because this is just nothing else as a trademark (see official AVCHD Page) or, at best, yet the definition of a self-imposed restriction on simplest MPEG4 / H.264/AVC.
BTW is synonymous for TV broadcasting in the mapping MPEG2 transport stream provided .... must now broadcasters with a license and then into Sonybeantragen Picture AVCHD punching ..? Absurt.
Antwort von pailes:
Blah blah blah. Can you read? Then read again my original mail: "The 5D does not AVCHD"
Together with my second run shows that:
The 5D does not because they AVC AVCHD into a Quicktime container which is not AVCHD compliant. For AVCHD must be in a MPEG-2 transport stream is available.
What you are in the mail last Fasel is completely gone s.Kern my statement. If you are unable're to understand what I am saying, then please spare me with your thoughts confused me will dizzy them, thank you.
Antwort von WoWu:
True, but with the reading then you seem synonymous not so good to be here.
Read times above:
@ Pailer
Quote:
I do not want the know-play, but the 5D MKII makes no AVCHD. My response:
Right, because AVCHD and pay a registered trademark of Sony / Panasonic and Canon is probably not so stupid again, for the prints of the logo again in the pocket to grasp .... It makes but h.264 AVC profiles with the 77-level 5.0 of MPEG4 / H.264/AVC Well, I hope that your dizziness subsides soon and you then get a clear head.
Get Well Soon.
Antwort von Jörg H.:
Hi,
I wanted you at least my results from W7-Test communicate:
1. CS4 (from Encore! ... Typical!) Is super stable and much faster than with XPx64
2. The video from the run 5DmkII now with slightly less shakes, but still acts as if only a framerate of 5fps around specified. Conclusion: useless! Another solution is needed! : (
3. Apart of the performance gave me W7 immediately liked it. Finally I find relevant to settings where they are I guess. Moreover, no problems occurred in the setting up and driver installation!
Rare for a new system from Microsoft! :)
My editing system:
Quad Q6700 @ 4x3000Mhz
8GB Ram 1066
2TB Raid-0 Seagate Baracuda 7200.12
Samsung 750GB system disk
Radeon 4850
Windows 7 x64
Adobe CS4
@ Wolfgang You've obviously right with the statement that this graphics card only support native editing is possible. Synonymous Thanks for pointing out the other thread!
@ Pailer Thanks for the references in the correct format! If true, but misses the essence of my original question about concrete improvements through the Adobe Update. Still good to know so that I can not express will next be inaccurate!
Thanks you for your commitment so late in the night!
Greeting
Jörg
Antwort von pailes:
Thanks for the references in the correct format! If true, but misses the essence of my original question about concrete improvements through the Adobe Update. I wanted to synonymous only right, not gripe or something. I'm sorry if it's wrong rüberkam.
I am trying times with an answer to your problem:
One can assume that Premiere CS4 for Quicktime files 5D synonymous Quicktime used to decode the files. Possibly. Premiere is based on an inefficient way, because I will not be too far from the window lean. With AVCHD Quicktime is not involved, Premiere Pro will bring the decoder itself, maybe it can even specific DirectX acceleration (DVXA) use what it makes much more efficient.
You can download the files from the 5D and transcode an intra frame-based codecs such as Avid DNxHD verweden. This should be much faster and better decode its premiere performance in quality, but the files are much larger.
Antwort von Jörg H.:
You can download the files from the 5D and transcode an intra frame-based codecs such as Avid DNxHD verweden. This should be much faster and better decode its premiere performance in quality, but the files are much larger. This I know! Funny but only that even the simple play W7 and synonymous with the above configuration is frustierend. The time required for the trans-coding is in certain situations, but then a problem!
Perhaps it is indeed in the next update or the new firmware of Canon synonymous something! The hope dies last .....
THX!
Jörg
Antwort von frm:
Sure, the AVCHD / Quicktime material 5d mkII Premiere Pro can actually easily import
I do not want the know-play, but the 5D MKII makes no AVCHD. In what format is actually on the camera? Medium is negligible ichmal CF card. As long as you can so s.Stück aufnehemn or how much fits on a 32 gig card?
Thank you very much
Antwort von jazzy_d:
So on my slowly in coming days with the notebook CS3 HDV can easily play, I can CS4 HDV is not the same without bucking and halted play. If it then starts to Jerkiness times synonymous needs "Stop" very very long time. It's annoying. DSP and graphics card or not.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Joerg
Perhaps only to supplement:
With Windows 7 will be. Mov Quicktime wrapper without support. (so to say "native")
So with a bad implementation of QT it can really nothing more to do.
(Only for the sake of completeness).
