Newsmeldung von slashCAM:Hier geht es zur Newsmeldung: Nikon D3100 with 1080 24p / H.264 video function
Antwort von Christian Schmitt:
A new round in the title fight for the best FullHD DSLR camera for the masses. forward indie film, is whether this development but for the money of us, who with her Rotate Money, is so good is rausstellen has yet (if you currently synonymous with the label "5D" can still make good ash ... )
Antwort von Frank B.:
No FullHD in 50i or 25p - see at the files!
Antwort von LarsProgressiv:
Hello!
For me, the camera would be interesting if there were two errors:
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- No connection for external Micro
- No swivel or rotating screen
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Too bad really. The price was very pleasant.
Regards
Lars
Antwort von NEEL:
Had to learn intereressant of how well the H264 codec at 18 Mbps is. The 5D has it in about 42 Mbps?? AVCHD at 17 Mbps were at least ungehackten GH1 almost useless and should be the more efficient AVCHD codec ...
Wait, what do the hackers ...:)
Antwort von deti:
Canon uses probably synonymous why such a high bit rate, because this requires less processing power on the one hand in the coding of H.264 and other better picture errors (eg the hard transitions in the Picture, which may be incurred by Alias | Wavefront Mayaing or lack of scaling mitkomprimieren) without creating excessive artifacts.
In this respect, is to be hoped that Nikon has received scaling and Alias | Wavefront Mayaing under control. But without an objective and descriptive test only times I would not distribute any advance laurels.
Deti
Antwort von ollieh:
No FullHD in 50i or 25p - see at the files! - No connection for external Micro
- No swivel or rotating screen
Since I can give you that's just right for a ton.
Since I love but my GH1 with Hack.
Canon and Nikon, it will probably never learn where the trends are.
Gruß olli
Antwort von LarsProgressiv:
Hello!
Neel: If I correctly understand your testimony to the efficiency, you're wrong. For AVCHD codec is from her not a subset of H.264 by definition and thus more efficient. It depends both on the codec implementation.
Ollieh: If I had money, I got a synonymous to the GH1 Häcken.
Regards
Lars
Antwort von Front242:
Before the debate here, which is for a ton and what is not, let's first wait until the first results. If you really need swivel display - there are alternatives. If synonymous expensive, but if the price widerrum plays no role, the Nikon is certainly not the first choice, right?
Antwort von NEEL:
If I correctly understand your testimony to the efficiency, you're wrong. For AVCHD codec is from her not a subset of H.264 by definition and thus more efficient. AVCHD is more efficient than the Canon H264. This synonymous various comparison tests show quite clearly on DVXuser. And AVCHD codec is an extremely complex, although an implementation, but it is much more.
Antwort von pailes:
And AVCHD codec is an extremely complex, although an implementation, but it is much more. AVCHD is not a codec but a recording format based on Blu-ray specification. The codec used
is H.264 aka. AVC.
The difference in quality between all the mentioned here H.264 variants arise solely by the different (in) efficient implementations of the encoder in the devices.
Antwort von thennig:
I find it funny how people here compare the d3100 and cut down with a camera like the 5d. guys we are talking here of the entry-level camera nikon ...
So of course ..
No external micro-
- No swivel display
-No audio modulation
etc. ..
5d compares the preferred times with nikon camera aka 800D, 700s or so. I hope soon to come. all other is silly.
give the 3100 the first chance. in photo mode is the better values than the 5d allemahl :-) alone in the auto focus and iso. but the only times ne small tip of my way so :-)
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Display 3 "(250,000 pixel)
Öööö ...
Antwort von LarsProgressiv:
Hello Thennig,
nothing I compared with the Nikon.
I own and had no camera in this class or better.
To me it's all about what a camera should have, so I bought it.
After some amateur models I now have certain rights, which must meet my next camera.
Unfortunately, the einizge model that has all the characteristics, unfortunately, too expensive and not entirely legal (GH1 with chopped firmware).
Regards
Lars
PS: I want to produce films and not films but just the background of my family to my ability to document possible.
Antwort von DSLR-Freak:
I find it funny how people here compare the d3100 and cut down with a camera like the 5d. guys we are talking here of the entry-level camera nikon ...
So of course ..
No external micro-
- No swivel display
-No audio modulation
etc. ..
5d compares the preferred times with nikon camera aka 800D, 700s or so. I hope soon to come. all other is silly.
give the 3100 the first chance. in photo mode is the better values than the 5d allemahl :-) alone in the auto focus and iso. but the only times ne small tip of my way so :-) Very true!
If you ever get the photos as a D90 next to a Canon 550D has held, knows what he means. This will at some point in the video field may look synonymous Sun The colors of Canon see part of like a cheap Casio. Canon has just a remarkable marketing.
So wait.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
What colors do you think you have but in the case of the Canon EOS 550 D actually everything in their own hands. So do it!
Antwort von NEEL:
AVCHD is not a codec but a recording format based on Blu-ray specification. . Uh, the "C" stands for AVCHD codec ...
The difference in quality between all the mentioned here H.264 variants arise solely by the different (in) efficient implementations of the encoder in the devices Then just call it "different implementations. In any case, there are huge differences and Panasonic AVCCAM is really very, very good in Comparison to the H264 5D.
Unfortunately, the einizge model that has all the characteristics, unfortunately, too expensive and not entirely legal (GH1 with chopped firmware).
Why should that be "not quite legal"? I can do with my firmware, what I want! If you are obedient really running ahead, you should not drive synonymous. You could risk a ticket!
Antwort von B.DeKid:
If you ever get the photos as a D90 next to a Canon 550D has held, knows what he means. .... These have I just been typed something.
And bzgl video mode when Nikon now MJPEG Code eliminated lösst then they go in the wrong direction, which would have looked to keep time to with Ner better / larger data throughput rate then the Nikon ne good alternative to Canon would have become, well, will probably not be as easy Nikon by dictation of Sonyhalt.
If the D3100 will be quite nice I go out of time but will not arrive to the Canon and Panasonic models. Even on the EVIL sector Nikon will probably see the synonymous.
Even the Nikon shame because in recent months is not really behind in development.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von LarsProgressiv:
Hi Neel,
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Unfortunately, the einizge model that has all the characteristics, unfortunately, too expensive and not entirely legal (GH1 with chopped firmware).
Why should that be "not quite legal"? I can do with my firmware, what I want! If you are obedient really running ahead, you should not drive synonymous. You could risk a ticket! to speak of legality is not probably have been quite appropriate. But when I look for one so dear to me buy yours, I would like to synonymous least have the guarantee for two years.
That would fall away, if I cel a strange firmware.
Regards
Lars
Antwort von B.DeKid:
I think the firmware is here only temporarily of map reading, right?
Say there is nothing so hacked the old one does not fit to play again so synonymous in the sense of any breach of warranty under fully draggable.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von LarsProgressiv:
Hello DeKid B.,
unfortunately, no. With the current version it is not possible to install an original version so that it looks original.
That's what you mean, in some Canon models, I think.
Regards
Lars
Antwort von B.DeKid:
THX Lars
I was a happy yet with the Pana Hack and therefore knew not this can not be undone.
(Did even at play in the internal memory Cam a low level boot / reset event would be. Possible)
So thanks for the info, so of course the warranty out. Now you have gone astray, of course, I had in the past 10 years, only two times the devices were repaired via warranty (had to).
Is halt so ne Win / Lose situation then with the hack.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von NEEL:
Hello DeKid B.,
unfortunately, no. With the current version it is not possible to install an original version so that it looks original.
??????
Of course this was quite das. s.Anfang there are problems, but that was in March or April. Now it is no longer a problem, set the firmware to 0.0 first (important because the cam only accepts a higher version than the one posed as update) and then reload the original Panasonic firmware 1.3.
Here are the specific instructions:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=2028440&postcount=14
