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Frage von Christina:


Hello everybody,

I bought 4 weeks before a Canon MVX 45i, which makes the rest of my opinion, great pictures. Unfortunately, she was already at the 5th Connecting s.The FW interface s.meinem Mac no longer recognized, either programmed by the system nor the editing. Also, a new cable brought no relief.

Today I have taken it or not the camera to a dealer for repair, and the handing out one of my Warnblatt of Canon, the DV interface is probably super sensitive and it must connect the camera only when both are turned Calculator as synonymous Camera! ( Also one should not plug in the cable the wrong way, but that is quite clear).

For me the camera was always out, but when connected to the calculator, it is synonymous to me that Firewire can not re-stake out the fly-in and! In any case, the dealer said that the repair is now once made a gesture of goodwill, if it happens again synonymous benefit guarantees nothing: then it is treated as incorrect operation! This is only for information, so be careful with the DV interface!

It is interesting that Canon is ausschweigt in the instructions above that both devices must be switched off for recording.

Well, in 3 weeks I did it again ...

Christina

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Antwort von Markus:

Hi Christina,

this is a very interesting information! Actually Firewire's for hot-plug (designed so the connection is running) ...

A link to this post, I have included in the following thread:

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Antwort von Jan:

Hello,

it is seen again as the pressure increases on Firewire (vs. USB!).
Good with the MV 45i would be synonymous with one Filmüberspielung possible USB to PC - synonymous back again A rarity (). After using the limited course of Canon software and installed the drivers and can experience annoying still crashes. In current FW card is nothing with Treiberinstallieren and many well-known Programs and like to work without problems with FW.
Well, the pressure on FW is increasing, it gets in a few years have been the ....

January

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Antwort von Christina:

Yes, I do not really synonymous understand whether this is just a protective measure, because the interface for these cameras often breaks down and Canon are trying to guard against mass costly repairs - I have again consulted the instructions, even when it is expressly stated in there that if you do not Connection gets to the cable and will once again stake out! When switched devices!

Well, I will certainly continue to be extremely careful. USB I will not at first try it, if I had the instructions right in the head does the appropriate software just synonymous s.PC, and I'm Mac Userin. Actually, Firewire is still superpraktisch and works for me with all the other devices without problems so far. If I think there's s.The problems with SCSI ...

Christina

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Antwort von Marco:

Well, the message seems to me too late. My Sony-Cam is currently being repaired because of that.

The PC has not detected any more, and then I could narrow by other PC Camera and the error on the camera, it turned out that there the Firewire port (or electronics behind it) is broken.

On the phone, said the Canon service partners can provide cost of up to 300 euros on me for sharing! * * würgh

Last week I posted it, now I'm waiting for nen quote ...

So be careful always beautiful. Otherwise it really expensive!
Greetings, Marco

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Antwort von GhostDog:

"Jan" wrote: it is seen again as the pressure increases on Firewire (vs. USB!).


Ahja?
I geschrottet just a PC as I like other 1000enden
PCs before a memory stick (USB) has infected ... After that catastrophic failure,
Picture no longer squeaked when switching PCs only, and reported errors in
Keyboard controller. The motherboard was replaced on warranty luckily.
Motherboard Manufacturers are more concerned with ICH5 chipset and not
properly grounded USB port () most of the front lines.
For me this was synonymous new ...

M.

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Antwort von Markus:

"Jan" wrote: ... it is seen again as the pressure on Firewire (increases vs. USB!).
This would require that the Canon firewire bug as purposely built into his camera such as the Microsoft of Windows XP SP2? Videographers who wants to make itself a second-rate (USB -) interface for capturing turn on?

->

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Antwort von matthew:

echt klasse ... :-(

see here:
http://forum.slashcam.de/viewtopic.php?p=106209 # 106,209

I believe that it can still do something to make kullanz?

such an authentic cheese ...!!

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Antwort von Jan:

Hello you,

I recently had a client of the ambiguous case of an error after another Einschicken his cam with a nice letter had success.
He was a little older and has been with Canon ever filmed, and a lot of powerful money-spent. According to models, or purchase of accessories and partially resolved with evidence, according to Canon and it was repaired free of charge.
Good, this case was probably a fluke.

January

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Antwort von stonee:

I believe that the defects are more ESD damage. (electro-static charges)
Since it is not no preference whether or camcorder and / or PC are switched on or off.
Personally, I same the different potentials between the PC and camcorder simply like this:
With one hand I think the camcorder. Here I am touching with one finger, one RCA jack or S-Video jack. (The contact with the shield is a good ground contact). With the other hand I touch the shield of Firewire connector. The body makes this a good resistance to ground (a few kOhms)
- Insert> and now simply

Until now, many different cameras and PC / notebook no problems!

From the on / off the device I do not think much. Whether there is now 15 000 volts or 15 005 volts is the voltage difference, little interested in the interface driver.

stonee

Ps: In the professional field have an active interfaces integrated ESD protection. Ie: The protective function is given only when turned on!

When the mass of the PC affects the mass of the camcorder before the signal cables can be connected synonymous happen. One should therefore make the best use Firewire cable - in which the shield protrudes slightly next.

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Antwort von Kiara Borini:

"Christina" wrote: ... The DV interface is probably super sensitive and we can connect the camera only when both are turned Calculator as synonymous Camera!

Good, this may be a legally conditional statement. Technics are the only (as already mentioned) the potential differences, the killer of electronics. This should eliminate it, or just do not arise.

Reasons why it sometimes brizzelt are often the environments s.Arbeitsplatz, so carpets and shoes, created by the charges. Then the humidity (air conditioning!), And synonymous - not to be despised - the dressing room.

Just Synthetic is sometimes nasty. I once before many years a geschrottet sauteur controller, because I previously was a few meters in Feinstrümpfe glaufen without shoes on the carpet. The charge was enough and I even see the spark in retrospect expensive.

There certainly is nothing wrong with the camera to turn off and plugging. Shut down the computer for that I would not. Rather, a well-grounded desk lamp (with metal base) to touch before. Maybe thinking about another synonymous carpet or a protective mat under the chair. So that's where you constantly rub with the feet. A grounded desk pad can counterbalance any potential differences. There are those parts in the electronics superstores.

The potentials are built by a man really very different from, and depend of many factors. Clothing, room environments, sometimes synonymous of the psyche. Here can be auso nnotwendig in one case more carefully than in the other. For reasons mentioned: In the meantime I'm getting all of Computerinnerein prior to touching - not only because of the moving mesh.

Despite everything, I think the four-pin FireWire ports and the smaller the USB contacts for mechanically more sensitive than electrically sensitive.

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Antwort von WD:

"Christina" wrote: Hello everybody,

I bought 4 weeks before a Canon MVX 45i, which makes the rest of my opinion, great pictures. Unfortunately, she was already at the 5th Connecting s.The FW interface s.meinem Mac no longer recognized, either programmed by the system nor the editing. Also, a new cable brought no relief.

Today I have taken it or not the camera to a dealer for repair, and the handing out one of my Warnblatt of Canon, the DV interface is probably super sensitive and it must connect the camera only when both are turned Calculator as synonymous Camera! ( Also one should not plug in the cable the wrong way, but that is quite clear).

For me the camera was always out, but when connected to the calculator, it is synonymous to me that Firewire can not re-stake out the fly-in and! In any case, the dealer said that the repair is now once made a gesture of goodwill, if it happens again synonymous benefit guarantees nothing: then it is treated as incorrect operation! This is only for information, so be careful with the DV interface!

It is interesting that Canon is ausschweigt in the instructions above that both devices must be switched off for recording.

Well, in 3 weeks I did it again ...

Christina


Hi Christina,
I already use for about 6 years SonyDCR-TRV30 DV interface successfully with the Videobearbeidung. Since I have many DV tapes, I still wanted to buy a second camera to save my Sonyetwas too. I have increased my Canon MV960 E. The DV interface of this camera funktinierte however s.nicht from the first day, although I have used it as per the instructions. I was told by Canon:
"The main board (DV Interface) of your unit was established by faulty or incorrectly connected DV device destroyed, card or cable. Therefore, a free repair under warranty, unfortunately, not possible."
I can not tell from these general comments of Canon, which is blamed me get with the Canon because I've done nothing other than in the 6 years before some 100 times with the Sony.
Between our two damage cases there seems to be parallels. I would therefore very happy, if I could get a copy of the Warnblatt of Canon. I have not even given this Nocht.
Thank you very much
Wolfgang

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