Newsmeldung von slashCAM: Panasonic AG-HPX301E/AG-HPX300 now officially! Of thomas - 12 Feb 2009 02:06:00 After the technical data
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Die technischen Daten der 4 Kilo schweren Wechselobjektiv-Cam noch einmal im einzelnen: 3 1/3-Inch 2.2 Megapixel 3MOS Sensoren, 3,2 1920 x 480 Inch Display , 1,2 Megapixel Viewfinder, Chromatic Aberration Compensation (CAC), Dynamic Range Stretch (DRS), zwei P2 Karten-Slots, einen SD-Slot (für Usersettings), 17x Fujinon HD Lens, Recording in FullHD 1920 x 1080 in den Formaten 10-Bit 4:2:2 100/50 (PAL/NTSC) sowie 100 Mbps DVC PRO HD, DVCPRO50, DVCPRO and DV - für Zeitlupen bzw. Zeitraffereffekte kann im 720p Modus eine variable Framerate zwischen 12p and 60p eingestellt werden.
An Schnittstellen sind dabei: 2xSDI Out (wahlweise HD/SD), Video Out (nur runterkonvertiertes SD Video ), FireWire, USB 2.0, Timecode In / Out (with integriertem SMPTE Timecode Generator/Reader), Genlock In , 3xXLR sowie ein Funk Micro Slot.
Bedienelemente: vier ND Einstellungen, Colorbars Schalter and programmierbare Bedienknöpfe.
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Antwort von WoWu:
I do not want your nerves, but in the prospectus is
3 Full HD MOS image sensors for RGB. or
Pick-up Device: 2.2M pixels MOS image sensor x 3 (1/3-inch interline transfer
type and progressive modes supported) This is not a single CMOS it.
In the report above is now again "3MOS sensors"
What should it be now?
Antwort von tom:
Hello Wowu,
Thanks for caring to read!
Hab nochmal nachgecheckt same reason: the "3MOS" comes from the linked press release, there is:
"The AG-HPX301E imager incorporates advanced 1 / 3" 2.2-megapixel 3-MOS technology to acquire full native HD resolution images .... these advanced 3-MOS Imagers provide exceptional image quality while Minimizing any flare and chromatic aberration. "
Greetings in the wake time zone!
Thomas
I do not want your nerves, but in the prospectus is
3 Full HD MOS image sensors for RGB.
or
Pick-up Device: 2.2M pixels MOS image sensor x 3 (1/3-inch interline transfer
type and progressive modes supported)
This is not a single CMOS it.
In the report above is now again "3MOS sensors"
What should it be now?
Antwort von Cocoa_Magazin:
1 / 3 inch? This may not be true!
Antwort von Quadruplex:
What should it be now?
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Thomas (Slashcam editor)
Hello Thomas
I have meanwhile synonymous with Panasonic Broadcast and contact to my demand (CMOS or MOS) is now definitely receive the response:
"Yes, we realize MOS sensors. (S.Picture in the appendix)."
ans-not be added post -
I am pleased that this issue is now resolved early so it could be shown that the recorder has sensors that of the usual CMOS sensors in many different positive score.
@ Cocoa_Magazin
This is synonymous Your concerns about 1 / 3 ", since the photosensitive surface are greater than for CMOS.
Antwort von Valentino:
So this is really a Sony killer and is almost its own models in Panasonic's wheel. I would not HPX2700 buy now if I do not umbedingt to 2 / 3 inch chip it would have.
Also, the shoulder camcorder HVR-270 is now nurnoch better when it comes to concerts or similarly long histories recorded.
Only two P2 slots, I find very little, just because the big cards are still very expensive and there are no fire doors, the AVC-I can record.
Target for the camera are the smaller regional stations synonymous want to work in HD, and small production companies and advertising for the image I think.
The image sensors with the times, I think more for pure Werbegewäsch. Whether 3-Mos, or as always synonymous Sony's image converter calls are CMOS image converter, no preference as the pixels are arranged.
The approximately 500 ASA sensitivity is synonymous the EX1, unless something even more.
A HPX3000 comes with its 2 / 3 inch CCD sensors on 800 to about 1000 ASA.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Valentino
In the assessment of the models, I agree to you. Regarding the Fire of gate, there is indeed a Panasonic Field Recorder, the task can take over.
Where you do not have right, the sentiment of the MOS sensor, because this precious little to do with CMOS has.
MOS sensors have higher switching speeds at lower temperature.
4 pixels can be taken with 16 transistors (CMOS) here with 4 transistors are generated, what the sensitive area will be increased and so the 1 / 3 "relativize.
MOS has a positive temperature coefficient, with which the internal resistance increases and the sensor itself can not warm and thus the SNR is not changed. (for CMOS noise doubling in each 7 °)
Sensors of this type have the advantages of both CCD and the CMOS technology and how CCDs in the FFT (Full Frame Transfer), ie full-out. At the same time, they work with a low power consumption, which is an important advantage of CMOS is.
Conventional sensors using polymer-on-chip lenses and RGB color filters, the fragile and vulnerable to bright sunlight (UV) and temperatures are synonymous. The new sensor has digital microlenses from inorganic material in the wavelengths of light in concentric dimensioned and Rin-tions are applied. These are the rings formed so that they correspond exactly to the position, which is required, the optimum light for the position of the photo diode orientation.
Each photo diode is optimally used and the gain s.Be exposure is considerable.
So there are clear differences between the types and MOS sensor with CMOS equivalent would be a fatal mistake.
Antwort von domain:
Barry Greenstein describes in great detail the effects of these RS-Cam, which is not of a EX1 differ, so probably not a MOS sensor. A sentence from his text:
"When we were using the maximum zoom we had to stay absolutely stationary to avoid moving the camera s.all, or the footage could take on a" rubbery "," stretchy "look."
Antwort von WoWu:
I have received written confirmation of Panasonic Broadcast before that I was
not a CMOS sensor.
Also, the technical description of the new sensor development. I think there must be BG after work.
Antwort von r.p.television:
The question is whether the MOS sensor over the CMOS an advantage regarding the RS offers. The tester had not the subjective impression of improvement.
Antwort von WoWu:
The question is synonymous to how the chip is read out, while at MOS alternatively a question of firmware is not so with CCD or CMOS.
I've made a sample video Still image from a "rice-turn" taken ... somehow failed to see the RS from.
So we wait, what the serial device so have to offer.
Antwort von weitwinkel:
what can you use the codec of AVC-I expect
zb. compared with the 35MBits / s mpeg2-codec a ex1 / 3?
gruß cj
Antwort von WoWu:
We have been working for over a year with Class 100 (100 Mbps AVC-I, 4:2:2) in 10bit and a Comparison with an 8-bit 35 Mbit / sec MPEG2 (long GOP) would be really unfair.
Antwort von RickyMartini:
what can you use the codec of AVC-I expect
zb. compared with the 35MBits / s mpeg2-codec a ex1 / 3?
gruß cj A better picture quality 10bit 4:2:2 and a handling of the clips on the timeline as DV by pure intra frame structure.
With eg "Edius 5" can be synonymous to work very well.
Antwort von domain:
A better picture quality, the EX1 / 3 probably soon synonymous with the 50 mbs XDCAM HD422 codec. But, of course, AVC-I has more to offer and the ZDF have decided to gut and although possibly in contrast to several southern European broadcasters such as RAI and the last of the BR, which is consistent for XDCAM HD 422 have chosen.
Original WoWu :-))
"But perhaps the relativised things, statements expectations and yes once again." Originating from this thread:
http://forum.slashcam.de/redcam-and-sony-ex1-im-keying-test-vt60302.html?highlight=ex1 + red
Antwort von eva:
A better picture quality, the EX1 / 3 probably soon synonymous with the 50 mbs XDCAM HD422 codec .... fama est. woher comes because this presumption?
gruss eva
Antwort von WoWu:
..... and then makes them synonymous 10 bit and I-frames only?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Southern television stations, such as the BR ... .. ;-))
Antwort von Jürgen F.:
@ RickiMartini
"... With eg" Edius 5 "can be synonymous to work very well ...."
What HW are you because s.den Start?
AVC-I/100 at 720/50p to EDIUS5 only hard cuts. 2 video tracks and still Farbkorektur HW with what you have as experience?
AVC-I/100, 720/50p in native mode, since the gentlemen of Final Cut Pro, AVID and ADOBE after a little work.
I wanted not to fall back Quantel eQ.
Regards, Jürgen F.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Juergen
I am confident that what we like to hear Qantel corner, will probably soon be synonymous FC AVC-I 100 Files "tolerated".
Quantel has in recent months s.den file formats changes to improve compatibility to Final Cut Pro guarantee.
I'm pretty confident .... Incidentally, the heist part
i Q.
But Apple must s.Final Cut Pro some homework, because even with Propre (although 10 bit) does not work that way, because only the "CrossDesolve" in Final Cut Pro 10bit capable and Final Cut Pro is not supported at all without effects warning to 8bit expects ... So nix on an integrated 10bit signal.
Antwort von Jan:
I have received written confirmation of Panasonic Broadcast before that I was not a CMOS sensor.
Also, the technical description of the new sensor development. I think there must be BG after work. Panasonic whether it were not told to return something to sound progressive ...
Your favorite magazine is so synonymous expressed:
Antwort von RickyMartini:
AVC-i material, I have not natively available. This I did an export from my HQ-half test material created.
Timelinescrubbing feels so real, as if it were DV-AVI.
The playback and rendering work is good, only seems to be well Edius but to swallow, for example, if you would like to trim (?).
A first test with a 6min clip, the VA on both tracks is - as PiP.
2VA tracks, PiP, Color correction - 1920x1080i @ AVC-I/100: My Quadsystem's the limit, as CPU load and is practically s.Anschlag the buffer is set to 1. The playback will be only slightly faltered. With AVCHD would not even approach the possible!
Q6600 @ 3GHz:
CPU Load: 1 VA: 50% - no color correction (buffer: max)
1 VA: 50% -
with color correction (buffer: max)
2 VA @ PiP: about 90% - no color correction (buffer: 3)
2 VA @ PiP: about 90% -
with color correction (buffer: 1 -> slight stuttering)
With 720p should probably look slightly better, with 100MBit the sound performance in the state are expected.
Antwort von krokymovie:
A better picture quality, the EX1 / 3 probably soon synonymous with the 50 mbs XDCAM HD422 Codec unfortunately, very unlikely. I was now on the sony-event and spoke with berlin hr pfeifer of sony. he said to just ask this hd422 codec that is synonymous jvc ex codec on the wagon and was not so soon this will store format, we would also like a certain distance to keep the higher product-line.
So nix with 50mbit / s 4:2:2 color.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Jürgen F.
Jürgen, AVC-I generated about factor 5-7 lower load on the calculator depending on what tools you used in the recording has.
Antwort von Jogi:
A better picture quality, the EX1 / 3 probably soon synonymous with the 50 mbs XDCAM HD422 Codec
unfortunately, very unlikely. I was now on the sony-event and spoke with berlin hr pfeifer of sony. he said to just ask this hd422 codec that is synonymous jvc ex codec on the wagon and was not so soon this will store format, we would also like a certain distance to keep the higher product-line.
So nix with 50mbit / s 4:2:2 color. While Panasonic does not see, a handheld technology with the AG HPX-301E nachschiebt the Ex1 is still propagated sell well. Because not everyone needs a shoulder bolides. And the picture quality should not be so now synonymous of the EX1 / 3 apart. Keeping only the advantages of PostPro because of the better codec. Revolutionary-visible improvements in the MOS chips assembled in the 301 have yet to be demonstrated. WuWu's comments on the MOS chip technology
but leave the improvements in image quality suspect being synonymous if only in theory.
Antwort von WideScreen:
Man, once again something new. Now I have yet to grade S270 agreement, because it is affordable and to tape record, now comes with Panasonic so nem part out. It costs almost the same, but can be significantly more. More resolution, better codec.
Am now been 4 days back from Africa. There we have the Z7 with a documentation rotated. Find the recording quality is very great. Sure it's no HDCAM but what the camera can rausholen is fantastic. Especially with you as a little over Cam can be directly and get shots that would otherwise have "gone" are. And despite the massive dust and dirt, the camera served us well.
But I think I should I shoulder the Panasonic camera to change, if the synonymous of Menusystem me a Panasonic Graus is ;-( (The technical data speak for themselves ....
Antwort von Kabelträger:
So to the Camera, I can only say: "things that the world does not need"
Either equal 2 / 3 inches with the 500s or the small dimensions of 170 and 200 enjoy.
Is really just a thick trousers on to make. As of Panasonic themselves as advertised (on the official website)
Me wrong, I can laugh about datt dingens
Greetings, Flo
Antwort von ed-media:
Hello cable carriers,
only that the 500 with its 2 / 3 "chip not only with 4:2:2 can not synonymous and delivers full 1080, as synonymous small Bügeleisenförmigen as 171/200er only 720er chips, because I find the MOS did not as bad as if "Wowu" writes fewer transistors, the chip area will occupy more space for the light-sensitive elements and then the chip would be light as a 2 / 3 "- CCD.
In any event, the 301er the EX1 & EX3 (of many camera crews as the Canon XL-series camcorders described as a banana) defy - as synonymous of JVC HM700 (which is far too easy and, unfortunately, no 4:2:2 color resolution can provide it would be good if the 700, for example in Apple ProRes422 record would only 720p with Spartial offset technology, but still). For these reasons, offering 301 more true if you want you can of DV, DVC Pro, DVC ProHD to absorb everything, there is simply phenomenal. From the handling reminds the 301er s.die JVC GY-DV5000/5100 since belonged JVC Panasonic too, now belongs to JVC Kenwood.
Antwort von Kabelträger:
servus ed,
well, we do not compare apples with pears. When I look at NEN shoulder camcorder up, then I want with 2 / 3 inch chip. For small cucumbers do not get so nice Picture agreement - since 1080 and helps Avcintra synonymous nothing!
EDIT: I hereby depth blur, many with artificially create a DOF and is just 1-2 away visors. Gone is the case with the light intensity. These make beautiful still images as a 2 / 3 inch chip, but in most cases where a EB-camera is used (and this is the 300 so supposedly) will simply not be used.
Where we are on the subject of grad - Avcintra gibts in 150er synonymous with the same small chip for much less money! And the SD cards are synonymous for the wallet-friendly as P "cards.
And datt Dingens eh not a shoulder camcorder is needed. The n has color and what fürn small?
And I prefer 720 nehm 1080 50i as 50p! How, moreover, the ARD probably synonymous;)
My humble opinion on the thing: rausgeworfenes Money!
Pack n bissl it and you get 2 / 3 inches
Much a savings and you have still the same!
(Except of someone you really need Genlock and SDI, but has no money for the 500s cheap onehin already;))
Oh yes - and of JVC was the 500s yet to use - the 5000, it was no more. Of the rottigen chips would grow. It is my opinion, Sony is still quite ahead.
Greetings, Flo
Antwort von Ernesto:
servus ed,
well, we do not compare apples with pears.
Where we are on the subject of grad - Avcintra gibts in 150er synonymous with the same small chip for much less money! And the SD cards are synonymous for the wallet-friendly as P "cards.
And I prefer 720 nehm 1080 50i as 50p! How, moreover, the ARD probably synonymous;)
My humble opinion on the thing: rausgeworfenes Money!
Pack n bissl it and you get 2 / 3 inches
Greetings, Flo hi wireless carriers,
Unfortunately, you have a knowledge deficit.
avc-intra only have the large pan-eb zb. 3000/3700 serienmaßig and gehts da s.ca. Los 40k (without optics, viewfinder).
the small works with AVCHD 150/151 max. 24 Mbps 4:2:0 8bit color and not avc-i 50-100 mbit / s 4:2:2 10bit color, which is a huge difference. also be responsible for 720p with pixel shift work.
you have 100% right with your statement about 2 / 3 bchips, only the cost but now the times 3-4 times when hpx131 is the optics of the viewfinder and in the price included not only monetary bissl s drauf.
the cam is not perfect, but a giant step forward, finally full raster pixel shift and no more.
secretly, I think sony needs and the demand that comes to us all good, I would like a synonymous with 422 XDCAM ex1 codec, maybe it means ex2.
Antwort von WideScreen:
I see as synonymous.
So the 500 he get so synonymous already for 7200 Euros. Since then, however ne Optics (10,000 euro + Viewfinder) to, and even haste 20,000.
Since the Öffis synonymous beside the 1080i, which I prefer in any case. Sure 2/3Zoll are better, not an issue, but so much money like I ned to spend at the moment, because I think the quality of the 10,000 euros difference does not justify. Have now ne Doku in Africa with its Z7 rotated, and this is synonymous with the sender not an issue when the content is, send the synonymous HDV. For SchmuBis and something like a small Tiefenschäfe ja ganz toll, but for many recordings where it "needs to go fast" as in documentation often the case, is synonymous a disadvantage because I did not take Fokusassi mag. And synonymous to the news people, it is very impractical. Will the movie fetishists, which probably represent the minority (at least the serious) and for the Camera is not synonymous built.
I look forward to FullHD without pixel shift and AVC-I with 4:2:2. Let's times when they rauskommt.
Antwort von Ernesto:
interesting for the HPX-301, no rolling shutter?
http://www.film-tv-video.de/newsdetail + M58cef3c57f3.html? tx_ttnews & [day] = 17 & tx_ttnews [month] = 02 & tx_ttnews [year] = 2009
Antwort von WideScreen:
If now is not even an RS-problem, yes, some nothing more to have carp. Wait and tea drinking.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... no rolling shutter? ... www.film-tv-video.de ... The first practice of the testers reported HPX300 well of RS effects under certain conditions, synonymous Panasonic Broadcast, the United States with the sensor design problems openly: Given the statement, I would of Panasonic-employee in the video but with a very large question mark.
Antwort von Kabelträger:
@ Ernesto:
Okay true - I've missed what the 150er is concerned! Only I do not see that much more money lie down! If I had the great Resolutionhab, I want to synonymous NEN Senso large and proper equipment to the outside center (optic and especially Viewfinder - otherwise forget it with the sharpness). And times I assumed the 500 and take a good SD-Optics (when not full HD anyway Resolutionallemal-at least as good as ne beginner HD Optics - if not much better) - then binn ich grad mal 1.5K-2k over 300 and did well but a suitable work equipment was purchased. As for the 300 in my eyes is not at all. If I am really so important to the sensor and the synonymous "Aussenrum" to the oh-so-great sensor fits - then lend me for use at the gefortert this really is a "real" camera;)
@ Widescreen:
The Optics 10k if you do not need to cost. Comparable to the Ne of the 300 will get already for 1.5 k - ne better used for 2.5 k. ..
But I ask myself why every HD necessarily cheap money for so wishes. HD radiates from eh None yet - the HD has pro7sat1 program synonymous erstmal deleted. If HD - be correct. And when you consider the first of the XDCAM standard for Öffis is not necessary anyway discussions on codec and bitrate;) (For a good source, however, I learned that at the moment of which is sought rather 720p. But where's opinions go there should be changes constantly anyway)
And apart from that is Lenssen and Partner produced on DVCAM - the whistle on more expensive;) (Not that I s.Lenßen and partners must be based - I just want to say that even such material in a "staged" production is used; ))
Ironic greetings,
Flo
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... if you consider the first of the XDCAM standard for Öffis is not necessary anyway discussions on codec and bitrate;) (For a good source, however, I learned that at the moment of which is sought rather 720p. But where the views' s going to be changing constantly there anyway) ... At least, the ZDF has already proven itself in the last year has officially (!) With a future acquisition 720p50 format. The BR, however, is in fact on XDCAM HD 422: The discussion on codecs and bit rate should therefore continue.
Antwort von Kabelträger:
Okay then, the circus still awake the next coming months;) But from my point of view seems to be at least a trend toward 720p50 initialed ...
Flo
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Cable carriers
And times I assumed the 500 and take a good SD-Optics (when not full HD anyway Resolutionallemal-at least as good as ne beginner HD Optics - if not much better) Then you deal with times of MTF ...
And what the 500s: the times are not created with the 2 / 3 "and despite Pixel Shift 1920 without interpolation.
Nevertheless, 'ne schöne Camera, we have a. But whether the advantage to 301 really exists, how you think .... very doubtful.
Antwort von WideScreen:
But a rolling Capping? Well, thank God. Once again, we have found an issue where you can get rid of his intellectual effusions can. The Forum is saved:-p
Antwort von Jan:
@
And apart from that is Lenssen and Partner produced on DVCAM - the whistle on more expensive;) (Not that I s.Lenßen and partners must be based - I just want to say that even such material in a "staged" production is used; ))
Ironic greetings,
Flo Lenssen and Partner is really no standard, there still with partially rotated with PD 170 - and the average of Auftragsfilmern. Some filmmakers I know (which was to have the box), take these shootings really just reluctant at (near Money & Order scarcity zb) - there is already much better at level for example BR or SWR and with the technology are already clear next - of course Thanks to our license fee ....
VG
Jan
Antwort von Kabelträger:
@ Jan:
The Lenssen and Partner with was not really serious;) (synonymous Therefore irnonischen the greetings)
Since I use the BR from my own experience (as a freelance staff) know, I will not discuss their equipment nudge. They have a lot of money and enter the very busy from synonymous. Da gibts grad a few VJs, sometimes with Panasonic in its price class have rotated. Obs still there, I do not know - but otherwise, the fact the most precious equipment. The Comparison to Lenssen and Partner should only show that it is synonymous is much cheaper;)
We must halt know what you value sets. And I put on a good camera that is easy and safe to operate is a viewfinders, so the call can be something and weight on the shoulders, combined with the depth of a 2 / 3 Optics. The fact that HD is the thing I am interested only in special productions. Otherwise, SD is still the state of affairs in most productions, we carry out. And can the 500 really quite good;)
Is it good that there are so many different cams - and so can each one for his needs raussuchen.
With my comments, I wanted just the endless praise for the 300 break!
Schönen Feierabend,
Flo
Antwort von krokymovie:
With my comments, I wanted just the endless praise for the 300 break! Flo it's weird when someone with no real background knowledge in a discussion crashes just about his own opinion known to do.
500 has the old sd 2 / 3 image converter and creates without interpolation not even 1280x720.
then remember that i-avc codec with 10bit is much more effective than DVCPRO with 8bit.
So what you use a deep unschärfe if the image is blurred than in the 301
the viewfinder when the 500 is still in 4:3 and the resolution grotte bad, and the lcd. mostly what you why the price is so high.
cocoa, after the completion of his film projects, the cam quite quickly sold again. he said himself, a ex1 is sharper.
Antwort von WoWu:
One must, however, the 500s really benefit are:
It is because of the low-resolution chips, one for video cameras, huge Pixel Pitch-related course and a significantly higher synonymous Focus range in terms of diffraction.
Apertures are up in the small field out with only a very small restriction available. So if you are in a setting with strongly changing light conditions to work, will appreciate the 500s.
Antwort von Kabelträger:
With my comments, I wanted just the endless praise for the 300 break! Flo
it's weird when someone with no real background knowledge in a discussion crashes just about his own opinion known to do.
500 has the old sd 2 / 3 image converter and creates without interpolation not even 1280x720.
then remember that i-avc codec with 10bit is much more effective than DVCPRO with 8bit.
So what you use a deep unschärfe if the image is blurred than in the 301
the viewfinder when the 500 is still in 4:3 and the resolution grotte bad, and the lcd. mostly what you why the price is so high.
cocoa, after the completion of his film projects, the cam quite quickly sold again. he said himself, a ex1 is sharper. Oh great the little boy to me of what Tiefenschärfe explain? Ask beforehand what it bitterly with depth and sharpness of the image s.sich it is all about and come back!
I need no avc-i codec - what synonymous? Can you explain to me why I absolutely brauch sowas? I want a camera, the good SD pictures with beautiful depth blur and delivers the material easy to process! No mini-camera, the Panasonic tried something! HD is a broadcast standard yet in such an infinite distance! If you absolutely want HD, then put the pole synonymous Money, which is reasonable for a camera handle should invest and will be happy. I prefer saving my useless money thrown out the window and will waive the 300;)
PS: Have our 500s at the 2 "16:9 Viewfinder mount, because you should choose if you mainly revolves 16:9. And the price is so high because the camera is now accepted and is in mass production. But I should you prefer not reveal what we have paid for this time;) In any case, compared with the 300 what the real cost is n joke.
And please make my background knowledge is not in question okay?
Flo
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Cable carriers
I think the cameras can not really compare directly and if you do mostly SD, the 500s are still a top camera. We had it relatively early and have my CAC can work as the EX people do not even know which of them. Although the limited range of the lens is always a bit annoyed and has one or two additional investment was required already.
On the other Page, we are working now for over a year with AVC-I and the difference is significant.
And the 10-bit more than make a positive impact.
And if you ask, because who needs SDI s.der Camera ... we ... and probably a lot more .... and we are waiting synonymous both SDI outputs to be able to use if the 12 bit version of 720 comes (hopefully soon).
You see, each camera has its strengths ... and their customers.
Antwort von Kabelträger:
Okay is gut;)
I will never upset about that of the Panasonic I should have served;)
Antwort von krokymovie:
I will never upset about that of the Panasonic I should have served;) you must know me so well, the little young. if you do not need such a thing, it is ok. only you should know what you're talking about and do not bark. Constructive criticism is appreciated, but not superficial rejection.
sd if you do, then keeping it there, but judge did not have a cam, still None really knows. who works here mainly because of a sender? we need to send us s.hiesige standards which adhere to anyway soon be obsolete?
offering 301 comes in a great, dominating in the HDV, sony s 270, canon xl h1, jvc 251 and this cam is a special feature and unquestionably professional.
in pounds are synonymous XDCAM sold, with better prices than in the 500 (if not a bad cam)
whether you now avc-i want is irrelevant, here comes something completely new and that is good.
because I'm a little young, old you, I can only say hasen:
who is not with the time it goes with the times.
Antwort von WideScreen:
Cable carrier:
The Optics 10k if you do not need to cost. Comparable to the Ne of the 300 will get already for 1.5 k - ne better used for 2.5 k. ..
But I ask myself why every HD necessarily cheap money for so wishes. Dear cable carriers, actually widersprichst you even in the sentence, but a GOOD Optics costs even more than the 10k can be synonymous fast times 25 or more costly.
"One of the comparable to the 301
..." THIS Optics is certainly not good. The cost around 3000 euros, which can not really worth much. The whole camera is a compromise. It costs only hold 10k and can only be a compromise. If someone wants to have clever, then he should please spend 60 K and the rumnörgeln not offering 301 and that this may not be perfect. Logically it can not. You need to be synonymous but not to buy.
And to think the Öffis not want to have HD, I can only say that it's not question what they are offering. Is it news or "fast perishable goods" then clearly no need HD, but if you want to sell them Dokus (and interesting because prices would like to achieve), then take the only HD content. And it comes in my opinion nor that it is eigenltich cheese with what one turns, as long as the codec quality is good. The question then is what you make. And the car must not be the source codec. Sure, a cameraman HDCAM ZDF synonymous AVCIntra deliver. So you relaxed times. Who wants to 6 different cameras at home, only to turn to the codec, or what exactly the sender wants.
