Frage von jobber2001:
hi, I have read in many, many bought the Panasonic HDC SD300.
After a few test recordings I am very satisfied with the results, which I'll faksch?
eg at home I have a few recordings of daylight when trying to make my cat to ... the picture looked very pixelated, outshines and "artificially"!
exactly what I need to know? how can / should I use the "special" functions such as aperture, shutter speed and gain? (; me know with these functions from unfortunately not at ...
I would be very happy if you can help me ...
jobber2001
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Hi
Look here mal rein.
http://forum.slashcam.de/canon-hg21-ist-da-kleine-enttauschung-vt78204.html
http://forum.slashcam.de/viewtopic.php?p=400718 # 400,718
Otherwise, just always plenty of light!
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The camera will start with you probably already in there with gain to push to see something else "to" ;-)
Gain is the Restlichverstärkung who'd Dispensing I always possible.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von pkoehler:
Hello,
for the first test shots with your new cam you should take during the day to automatic mode (iA), which normally would have to ensure good shots. For the manual settings you must get a bit of background glanced (lots of test posts synonymous here in the forum) and just then.
Important! Adjust for best quality recording mode to the HA.
Greetings
pkoehler
Antwort von Toni:
I bought after months of "research" is now synonymous finally the HDC-SD300 - and am completely satisfied!
First I (equal to its own extensive tests only in full automatic mode, iA) with respect to the required image quality made, which I will now use more in future:
I had originally planned to use the best quality (HA = 17Mbit/sec) and thus 4 h of recording time with my 32 GB card.
After this, my attempt is to me but now quite clear that the value-even though I already put on the best quality-not at all "profitable"
Ch I am always in the future with full conviction "only" the 3rd Quality setting (HX = 9Mbit / sec) for use with a long 8 hours of recording time! Which is enough for a super image in everyday life!
The striking finding is that is that for "normal people, synonymous critical viewers," virtually no difference in quality between HA, HG and HX are visible! Never and nowhere!
(Auch. complex laboratory measurements, although perhaps with some wise guy somewhere herausmessen differences in specific situations).
All attempts at constant-switching-quality, I have done with a large, sturdy tripod, to "get clean Comparisons to.
The test was conducted in highly detailed scenes of the worst Lighting (measured 8 Lux) up to full sunshine with snow
(> 30,000 lux) sharpness, resolution, color reproduction, image noise, blur when panning etc. brisk
My "assessment monitor," in which I have the 32GB SDHC card plugged directly then, is the latest full HD 42-inch Panasonic plasma TV TX-P42V10E, which I usually synonymous with normal-Pal-television-also only the highest quality display can certify.
(By the way: HD TV test broadcasts are compared Pal although somewhat sharper, so the difference with good Pal-mail is not on the TX-P42V10E synonymous thought sooo huge as I for example would never pay extra fees ... )
Antwort von Jörg:
from such timber, the users are carved, which wants the industry to:
Fully automatic operation, bit rates from the basement area, uncut s.Plasma "inspect"
Of those contributions, a thousand, and I suspect looks like the next-generation of devices ...
Antwort von Alf_300:
@ Joerg
Photography of the gibts Einwehkamera to him for everything Superwasweisich Camera, why should this be different with his or CAMs.
But it's great - draufdrücken us ready. Volume in the closet
Antwort von Toni:
Blah, blah, blah, what is this meaningless "chatter"?
What else probably considered a normal camcorder Users his shots??
If your 2 "specialists" real "facts / experiences" I Could contribute would be to all the readers here probably helped more!
For example, the mentioned "cutting":
Has possibly because a smaller, almost halved stream / sec disadvantages?
Whom do so, which?
Once recorded, the quality would still remain the same, because everything is digital! The berarbeitung be even faster, easier, especially when you have a "slower" off-Calculator available because the stream much slower / less!?
I have not tried it yet.
Moreover, one can with the HDC-SD300 been synonymous in the device itself
unsuccessful scenes / parts cut out "...
Another advantage:
The memory card can "HX" obviously cheaper / slower!
Probably will not "Class4" are needed!
Even "Class2" yes guaranteed 2MByte/sec what 16Mbit/sec means, ie for HX = 9Mb/sec thick would be sufficient ...
So we "normally insane now waiting for your brilliant tips ...
Antwort von Jörg:
So we "normally insane now waiting for your brilliant tips ... do you ever calm your thing, cut in the cam and freu Dich ...
class2 cards might take place a drawing pad?
Antwort von Alf_300:
@ Toni
It must cut with the yet to be rectified,
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
This view that quality is always consistently good, just because it is digital, found today still frighteningly often. What good is a higher data rate if the quality would be just as high as if it is twice as high? Why even a data rate? Can we do it but just s.and sequences stored indefinitely in a 1kb file!
Well, now in seriously disadvantage you will then see if many details are complex with movements in the Picture (branches, leaves, water, waves, increase noise). Then, the compression has to do more with the little things and to generate only "the original image, similar but not congruent" pictures. But synonymous if they are s.einen certain threshold contrasts remain low, those areas have more or less static (for example, a blurred chalk board). Anyone who respects on it, sees the remains of more or less obliterated Chalk fix, they may be moved only a block ... wärend the rest in a wonderful loose camera style rocks.
Who as a winter holiday on the piste starts, which has some of the snow "Contour Islands, where the structure is visible. The rest is a rough concrete surface, where it can then come to a sudden sound from skipping when there is a little brighter. Hard to explain ... but at VERY low data rates we see that very clearly.
Antwort von Toni:
Again, very very informative - your answers ...
For synonymous mentioned automatic mode "iA" I want to say:
Also I find the use of perfectly legitimate!
If one is ipso facto been "underprivileged, criticizing"?
That is a camcorder for "normal people" customers.
And using this mode is likely to more than 90%!
Which is important! This is what matters in practice!
I do it as synonymous aware, although I'd be synonymous familiar "manual" perfectly.
(For decades, "manual" Speigelreflex photographed with interchangeable lenses, etc.)
iA works very well in the HDC-SD300 and for all Normalfilmer - and for that, this consumer camera so well designed ... - Full enough!
Who does he want the people on holiday or at the birthday celebration, or in school sports, or other spontaneous, fast shots - without the user 150seitige here to have - been trying to set permanently until what??
And: The "techies" can still nearby, in manual mode, adjust, and even still another 100 cases manual,-alone-try many other "better" settings - if they want.
I think you're 2 with your "global criticism" more removed in the professional sector - as it then is synonymous with 24Mbps AVCHD camcorder:)
I recommend that for your eagle eyes as the Sony NX HXR-5 with a lot more manual options ...
Antwort von Toni:
Schleich @ Michel
Precisely such "extreme situations" that you describe, I've tested ...
And then my critical "technician look with" just in HX no deterioration festgegestellt!
I stand, I stand! Everything else is still splitting hairs!
And a "Normalzuschauer" noticed no direct comparison possible-guaranteed fortiori NOTHING!
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
Who told you pissed because my leg?
Antwort von domain:
@ Toni
Could it be that this extreme situation was to demonstrate that you have gefimt by Tripod from a largely static scene?
In that case I would not be in the VBR AVCHD recording method of surprised that you could not see any significant differences between the levels of quality.
I strongly advise you to always use the highest bit rate, because this, as already mentioned above, can have particularly strong motion scenes only really ..
Antwort von deti:
Who these "tests" makes should always mitspeichern the uncompressed original data via HDMI and then make an assessment on the basis of differential images. Any other approach is described not as a test, but rather as an experiment.
Another small tip: make movies once the sand in a sandbox, and while a pivoting motion. As you can see quite well the changes in the compression function of the bit rate.
Deti
Antwort von Jörg:
we are wasting valuable time
Antwort von B.DeKid:
The actual Jung is with the whole drum around but have not been helped gerede.
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Bzgl. Talk of the data rates
So who is 4 hrs s.Stück films, the films to 80% just before "big movies" .... there may be synonymous understand the data rate is irrelevant.
Sandbox kut was better in 2 weeks mal nen carnival train with confetti and so
And then once at home from 2 Different Stillframe nen create a split screen Picture and consider s.besten s.einem calibrated monitor!
And then synonymous times 200% pure zooming s.PC da nen Blinder sees itself and this leads to data rate.
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Bzgl
AF - must already be well clear of synonymous automatic mode must be good - and yes it can and should be able to use synonymous. Just how fast is this manual, you should carry no manufacturer's instructions on the spot with, this has to learn by heart, so you can switch directly from cross occurring situations.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Toni:
@ Domain
I've actually always "static objects" filmed: landscape, trees, branches, leaves, snow, living room furnishings, Buntsrtifte, wallpaper, etc.
Yet I have always swung in each mode as fast as possible.
Even came up the display: swing too fast ...
What is the difference so please a brisk "tilting" movement to a different "dynamic recording"??
Both times, moving the scene in the Picture. . .
Thin, bare branches of a bush were there as in HA and HX washed out exactly the same! Only when standing scene back then (same) sharp.
I have just looked at the long and critical!
Antwort von jobber2001:
I thank you all for your tips!
just "Toni" I want to thank you because, if I am to be honest, gave me the helpful tips.
I myself am not, unfortunately, know so well with all the "extras from", but would be happy times, so the question, where / how can I get s.besten can deal with the dazzle, gain or exposure time / need?
I am also the picture with me always (very shaky when I think in the manual) is there any setting synonymous prevents it?
I would be very grateful if you could give me more helpful tips ...
AND another question, should I s.oder the functions can be made (if I put on iA):
Dazzle
back-light function
PS: still an important question, how is it with the file format?
If I jump dates of the sd card games on the pc, the file is called "mts" But when I import the supplied software, then they are called "m2ts" where is the difference?
I have also the problem that my video editing program (sony vegas pro) can not handle these files: (
how or where I can convert this data loss?
jobber2001
