Newsmeldung von slashCAM: Panasonic HPX 300 - The EX3 Killer? Of rudi - 10 Feb 2009 10:39:00 Tomorrow is a new Panasonic professional with interchangeable lenses imagine its features like a clear challenge s.Sonys PMW-EX1/EX3 hear: So is the almost 6 kg of heavy camera with variable frame rate between 12 and 60p alternatively DVC PRO HD or AVC - I () on. And while full-raster 1920 x 1080 with 10 bit 4:2:2 (!) As synonymous with the former series there is a CAC (digital correction for chromatic aberrations), as well as a high-resolution 3.2 inch display with 1920 x 480 pixel resolution. The only snag could be the three 1/3-Inch 3MOS sensors, which are Full HD Resolutionaufzeichnen can, but for some users with a small chip area to offer. However, since the difference in the look to 1/2-inch synonymous not very large. A price is not fixed yet, but rumor as well under 10,000 euros (Thanks s.Arndt baker for the link).
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Antwort von r.p.television:
Reads everything up quite nicely on the 1 / 3 Inch 3MOS.
The trend narrowly. Who wants to be overpriced even 1 / 3 "lenses when you purchase now, thanks 5D Mark II much better and cheaper EF lenses in the back bar has?
And the camera at various VJs and broadcasters still refer paragraph is as synonymous already HVX200 and DVX100.
I hope Canon camera conjures an over in the guise of a successor XL H1 out of the hat. Technically, is purely down to software limitations everything resolved for a 5D Mark II as a real video camera.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Reads everything up quite nicely on the 1 / 3 inch ... Since I'm already very synonymous to Lowlight-results! Still, it would be nice however if it is finally cheaper CF or SDHC synonymous my alternative to P2 cards exist, with those likely to be synonymous again this HPX300 will be beaten. But let's see, tomorrow we know more.
... Who wants to be overpriced even 1 / 3 "lenses when you purchase now, thanks 5D Mark II much better and cheaper EF lenses in the back bar has ... The two concepts are camera s.derart different customer groups, that is hardly a problem: With a HPX300, for example, I could probably work quite well - but with a 5D? No, thank you. Others will see it exactly the other way.
... And the camera at various VJs and broadcasters paragraph will still ... This should be the target synonymous, since the ZDF to AVC-I as a future acquisition format known, was indeed of Panasonic announced cameras specifically for this area on the market.
Antwort von jogol:
As for claims represents AVC-I actually s.das Schnttsystem? Or is a Cray massively parallel computing is necessary to combine two video tracks smooth play it?
mfG
jogol
Antwort von Christian Schmitt:
I only hope the camera is oriented s.JVC and not Canon or Sonywas the form is concerned ...
Otherwise I prefer to wait still something new for NAB of Canon ...
Antwort von Valentino:
I only hope the camera is oriented s.JVC and not Canon or Sonywas the form is concerned ...
Otherwise I prefer to wait still something new for NAB of Canon ... I think with the 6 pounds, the thing is more like an EX3 or Xl-h1 as a look of how a JVC HD201.
Antwort von RickyMartini:
As for claims represents AVC-I actually s.das Schnttsystem? Or is a Cray massively parallel computing is necessary to combine two video tracks smooth play it?
mfG
jogol http://www.panasonic-broadcast.de/de/technologie//avc_3_intra_technolgie.php
Due to the intra frame coding is much less computing effort - each picture is so individually before. The compression takes place not between the images (MPEG, AVCHD), but only within (intra) instead.
This is similar to MJPEG (Motion JPEG), as it is DV, have been used, only that it "JPEG 2000" is used (hit me please only half, if I should have read it:)).
Antwort von Jogi:
I only hope the camera is based on JVC and Canon or not in the form Sonywas is concerned ...
Otherwise I prefer to wait still something new for NAB of Canon ...
I think with the 6 pounds, the thing is more like an EX3 or Xl-h1 as a look of how a JVC HD201. A handheld can be with 6 Kg probably no longer be!
Antwort von camworks:
there should be a shoulder camcorder, as I have read.
edit: just discovered:
New products in the exhibition area
Cameras:
AJ-HPX3700, AJ-HPX2700, AG-MC151, AW-HE100, AW-PH405, AK-HC1500,
AW-HE870 and models of the AG-XXX Series
and further:
AJ-HPS1500, AJ-PCD35, TH-65, AJ-HPG20, J-PCD35, AW-RP655, AV-HS400,
TH-65 and AJ-HPG20
Antwort von krokymovie:
sounds, except the size of the image converter, for something really new in the home to pany. pany is now synonymous use 1/3cmos better would be 1 / 2 would be top 2 / 3, only then is the worse in their own home vorprogramiert their battleships would have had someone to buy. 4:2:2 10 bit is now in the paid class arrived, including high-resolution lcd / viewfinder and hopefully interact with optik. I am on the first tests tense.
Antwort von Manuell:
Hi,
I'm in Cologne are synonymous, it is unfortunately only S.17 clock, werd dann mal gucken, if I have a few photos can do :-)
This could then perhaps I will be switching to HD and 1 / 3 inches, I was so far in my XL2 is not disturbed. Clearly 2 / 3 as for the HPX500 what would have been fine, but if the price clearly below 10,000 euros is already fit.
Greeting
Manuel
Antwort von Ernesto:
since the ZDF to AVC-I as a future acquisition format known, was indeed of Panasonic announced cameras specifically for this area on the market. true, but it should be actually a handheld.
what one reads as it could be a new born on flieger.
Now sony has the demand and we can look on new cams.
Antwort von camworks:
just wait, maybe this is all just hot air (I do not believe it, but might be) ...
Antwort von ed-media:
Did not really of Panasonic press release read, is always
on the HPX 3000 refers. And what is with the idea today.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
The wait is over:
http://www.panasonic-broadcast.de/de/news/archiv.php?we_objectID=3587
Antwort von krokymovie:
thank bernd e.
it is a completely different pans of heavy marketing strategy.
This cam is actually a lot of innovations.
new 1 / 3 duty 2.2 mil pixel
sharp lcd / viewfinder (same resolution as sony z7)
20-bit digital signal processor
avc-intra 4:2:2 10bit recording
So a real proficam.
The objective seems to change in the price of ¬ ca.9.500 to be included.
a P2 card synonymous?
I hffe pan for the cam is successful, sony has with ex1 / 3 almost everything away.
Antwort von Chezus:
Why not me too bulky. I would be a direct successor or a direct competitor to the dear EX 1.
Because either I could then buy the EX1 or the cheaper and I would buy me then ;-)
Next month, a new cam for me since and I have the EX 1 as well as already ordered.
Do you still wait for me to see if still does what? Brauch the Cam by April. As I said, if by then synonymous not new on the market, may well be that the available favorable.
So, on March buy or wait 2-4 weeks?
Antwort von ed-media:
The idea would then be only fast SDHC cards or Compact Flash card using the PS2-shaft fit, then all would be helpful, in addition to a nice HPX500 Camera against the JVC HM700 compete at the SonyEX1/EX3 tried to stand up offer.
Wait, we look at the first test s.wie of 1 / 3 MOS 3-chip in comparison to Sony `s 1 / 2" - and of course, behaves CMOS JVCs CCD.
With a camera company was on the JVCs reported too faint for interventions, because they prefer a DigiBeta or Panasonic HPX500, failing synonymous time a DVCam.
Antwort von ed-media:
Hi yes there is now very interesting pictures of the Cam, good looks, perhaps
a little cheaper than the processing of the 500s, as does the JVC on the other hand, synonymous of very high quality. Only the question because of the rolling shutter
in the MOS chips (chips are in IT).
The camera stops on the name of AG-HPX301E
http://www.panasonic-broadcast.com/cms_banner/288x140/product_visuals/AG-HPX301_sideL.jpghttp://www.panasonic-broadcast.com/cms_banner/288x140/product_visuals/AG-HPX301_sideR.jpg http://www.panasonic-broadcast.com/cms_banner/288x140/product_visuals/AG-HPX301_slant_L.jpghttp://www.panasonic-broadcast.com/cms_banner/288x140/product_visuals/AG-HPX301_slant_R.jpg http://www.panasonic-broadcast.com/cms_banner/288x140/product_visuals/AG-HPX301_P2CARD_IN.jpgand einen PDF-Katalog über die Camera gibt es synonymous schon
http://www.panasonic-broadcast.com/cms_downloads/en/products/AG-HPX301E_Brochure.pdf Since Panasonic is with his - supposedly - but 85 percent market share as much Flinker JVC with its appetizers to the idea that what has already developed a Pansonic man with a training in Munich synonymous predicts exactly what he has not said. But the interesting Cam - which is against the other but must prove. The price is not everything.
But 5-year warranty may be synonymous seen, which offers even more investment-synonymous for distributors [/ url]
Antwort von Chezus:
you can see the photos may be a little smaller insert, or using the upload function?
As I said, the camera is another option, but no revolution.
Antwort von r.p.television:
If the same place with Camera 1 / 3 inches with at least 1 / 2 inches and comes out we say about 4000 euro more expensive that very interesting. At least you have more choice for optics.
But a clear Kampfansage s.die EX3. Much more likely the Panasonic can be alone because of the frame codecs.
Antwort von camworks:
yes, hm, but rolling shutter ...
Antwort von Jogi:
yes, hm, but rolling shutter ... ... but in the fall EX1 / 3 to almost synonymous. The RS is often overstated.
Antwort von camworks:
then you read the times through which the test linked to RS written. which could not make trips and pans, w RS Eilders he so crude has allocated.
Antwort von r.p.television:
yes, hm, but rolling shutter ...
... but in the fall EX1 / 3 to almost synonymous. The RS is often overstated. That takes any subjective differently.
I notice the RS always very uncomfortable on. The visual effect is somehow so synthetic and unnatural, synonymous if I bending, stunting and distortion erstmal perceive only secondarily. The Picture of handheld shots just strange.
And for some situations, the RS is almost a KO criterion. Because you need to test with exposure times to avoid crooked rotors, etc. to film.
Antwort von RickyMartini:
The RS is I have only met on a picture that I SonyK770i with a cell phone had made. When I footprints "trashing" and the effect recorded. The Picture on occasion, I will upload it.
Enables you to their mobile phone to the Still Image or Video mode and swivels left or right, the RS can directly observe synonymous! A matching entry to Slashcam:
http://www.slashcam.de/info/Kurzfazit-Handling-Sony-EX3-Vorserienmodell-294900.html
http://web.tiscali.it/rudiversal/images/RollingShutterEffektHC1.JPG
I have the suspicion that the problem is software or correction circuitry will fix you!
The RS-screen cell phone:
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... I would be a direct successor or a direct competitor to the EX 1 ... Do you prefer me to wait if still does what? ... Da tut sure what yet, because while the HPX301 surprise, is an AVC-I version of the HPX171 has been announced. The only question is when they actually appear.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ RickyMartini
Are you sure that the RS effect, because when the images of times to cover brings you realize that the second picture is actually tilted.
So a correct R, I can not recognize ... ? :-(
Antwort von ed-media:
Worse provides RS shots with flash, allowing the cell phone pictures, I see no RS.
Or total registered vehicles - synonymous with digital SLRs when passing cars. The lists will appear.
Antwort von RickyMartini:
A CMOS Camera WITHOUT the problem with RS-4M:
http://www.pressebox.de/pressemeldungen/rauscher-gmbh-systemberatung-fuer-computer-and-angewandte-grafik/boxid-67424.html
Antwort von WoWu:
CMOS car heist not synonymous RS. You can just have GS in CMOS, it is only just the three additional transistors per pixel spendier.
Such sensors are available in large numbers .... None, it only because, of course, synonymous disadvantages.
So it's always a question of balance.
But that's already been discussed all times.
Antwort von deti:
A GS-sensor requires a much higher selection rate, because no longer continuous, but only burst-like after the closure can be read. Thus, the power and the temperature of the sensor rather to rise, leading to higher noise and could lead, ultimately, the downstream signal processing with higher bandwidths synonymous cope.
By contrast, the RS-problems rather marginal nature - most people's do not remember ;-)
Deti
Antwort von Jogi:
A GS-sensor requires a much higher selection rate, because no longer continuous, but only burst-like after the closure can be read. Thus, the power and the temperature of the sensor rather to rise, leading to higher noise and could lead, ultimately, the downstream signal processing with higher bandwidths synonymous cope.
By contrast, the RS-problems rather marginal nature - most people's do not remember, -)
Deti Who with the issue of RS is familiar and in particular to ensure the escape of course, not many effects. Also, most entities that are not really with the video technology are never complain because this is not a RS of them is detected. So as I mentioned above ... is always of some overvalued.
Antwort von WoWu:
For hand-held camera anyway, because any inclination of the camera too oblique leading edges.
Deti, with the selection of the higher speed is not true, because 25 frames / sec, 25 frames / sec and there is no longer a single sample, no such preference is selected.
Rather, at a higher RS Readout Readout speed (at Sony4-fold) to the RS effect to compensate.
The MOS sensors, there is the positive temperature coefficient, which is the internal resistance of the sensor increases and thereby prevents the chip is heated.
